Pre-Official Depth Chart for Broncos vs. Bengals--Your Guess Is As Good As Mine
In anticipation of the relatively meaningless advent of the upcoming Broncos vs. Bengals depth chart, I thought I would take a quick look and throw out some guesses as to the lineup we can expect, while inviting you to share your thoughts on the subject as well.
The typical caveats apply: nothing is set in stone, the situation is fluid, it's only preseason, no guarantee is expressed or implied, your mileage may vary, yada, yada, yada...
For me this is an exercise in "stock valuation," and providing a first quarter preseason snapshot of rising and falling stock across the team. I can't say that my personal depth chart is loaded with fantastic surprises that stagger the imagination, but I'm sure some of you will pick up the slack in that category.
The list is after the jump. See you on the other side.
*All positions are listed in descending order from '1st string.'
OFFENSE
QBS: Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow
-I suppose the real argument here might be whether Tebow has moved up to #2 ahead of Quinn...I'm o fthe mind that that moment will come soon enough, but it isn't here yet.
RBs: Lance Ball, Bruce Hall, Toney Baker, LenDale White, Correll Buckhalter, Knowshon Moreno
-With Buck and Knowmo likely sitting this one out there really isn't a lot of suspense here. White hasn't practiced since he went out of practice with what seemed like muscle cramps, so really we could see a lot of action from Ball, Hall and Baker, with FBs getting a few reps as well. I've listed them in order of quality experience here, which aligns well with my personal fave of the group, Lance Ball.
FBs: Spencer Larsen
-Except for the fact that Larsen will probably see more carries this preseason than he will for the rest of his career, nothing too special going on here. I expect Branson to get reps back there as well of course, but I am listing him as a TE for this exercise.
WRs: #1: Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Lloyd, Alric Arnett, Demaryius Thomas
#2: Eddie Royal, Matthew Willis, Patrick Carter, Britt Davis, Eric Decker
Slot: Brandon Stokley
-I expect to catch a lot of flak for this arrangement, but allow me to explain my reasoning. First of all,I have Decker and Thomas sitting this game out, just to be safe, though Thomas might be a go. I would put Royal at starting slot and Lloyd at starting #2, but Lloyd is still nursing his hamstring, and so he may not be a full go, so I have Royal taking the lead for the #2 with Stokes taking the starting slot for now. Willis is the backup #2, but I would list him as a backup slot as well, just because his overall performance merits a solid spot on the depth chart. Everyone else is in no particular order or place, though I would list Arnett ahead of both the new guys, if only barely.
TEs: Daniel Graham, Richard Quinn, Marquez Branson, Riar Geer, Nathan Overbay
-Nothing amazing here, just a note that Overbay is the "pricier" stock, but I think Geer has been messing up less and so gets a boost on the list for being more consistent, if not flashy.
RT: Ryan Harris, Kirk Barton, Paul Duncan
-Pretty normal, I think.
RG: Chris Kuper, Eric Olsen
-Kuper is dinged, but I think he gives it a go. I think it is a toss-up with Hochstein and Olsen as far as 2nd string C and RG go, but I am listing the more conservative variation with the rookie at RG.
C: J.D. Walton, Russ Hochstein, Dustin Fry
-This is the conservative lineup, since J.D. shows no signs of giving up the job. Fry could be an early cut.
LG: Zane Beadles, Seth Olsen, Stanley Daniels
-So far I am liking the first string lineup. Nothing shocking here.
LT: D'Anthony Batiste, Tyler Polumbus, Ryan Clady
-I think Batiste has moved ahead of Polumbus.
DEFENSE
RDE: Jarvis Green, Ryan McBean, Le Kevin Smith
-I know, I know, "Jarvis is the 3rd down specialist!" Again, I tend to take a conservative stance, and the longtime vet gets the nod over the young guy. Either way, nice depth here.
NT: Jamal Williams, Ronald Fields, Chris Baker
-Just as I said in my DL breakdown, I expect that Williams will make his impact felt early, and Fields will rotate in liberally, so I would be more likely to list Williams and Fields as 1A and 1B.
LDE: Justin Bannan, Marcus Thomas, Ben Garland
-Nothing shocking here.
ROLB: Robert Ayers, Jammie Kirlew, Kevin Alexander, Jarvis Moss, Elvis Dumervil
-Interesting twist, I have Ayers getting first dibs on replacing Doom's production. Moss will be clubbing away with the second unit in a few weeks, building up more confidence.
RILB: D.J. Williams, Joe Mays, Nick Greisen
-Once again, nothing shocking. Mays is looking like a smart acquisition.
LILB: Wesley Woodyard, Akin Ayodele, Devin Bishop
-I love typing in Woodyard as a starter...
LOLB: Mario Haggan, Baraka Atkins, Darrell Reid
-Haggan's demeanor, size and physicality will be assets on the strongside. I'd rather see him stay in the middle, but this is the next best thing.
RCB: Andre Goodman, Alphonso Smith, Syd'Quan Thompson, Tony Carter
-Nothing to amazing here, I have Syd'quan ahead of Carter based on ceilings as I see them, but I'm not married to the idea.
LCB: Champ Bailey, Perrish Cox, Cassius Vaughn
-Is Cox looking good or what? My grade for him was 2nd round, and lots of people thought 1st round. I am still amazed at what a steal he was, moreso than most of the DB steals in the deep 2010 class.
NCB: Nate Jones
-Admittedly, the Broncos won't be getting this specific. I think their chart will list Jones as the #2 RCB and Phonz as the #2 LCB
SS: Renaldo Hill, David Bruton
-Mark it down and lock the catbox. This particular position won't change for the rest of the year, barring (shudder) injury.
FS: Brian Dawkins, Darcel McBath, Kyle McCarthy
-I want to cry tears of joy when I think how much better our safety depth has gotten over the last two years.
*****
Pretty conservative overall, I admit that. Who do you got?
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I actually track the positions
under the headings of DE/DT, NT/DT, DE/OLB. I didn’t list them that way here because it just makes it confusing.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 10, 2010 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Allow me to...
4-3
LE: Ayers, Garland, Alexander
NT: Williams, Fields, Le Kevin, Baker
DT: Bannan, Thomas, McBean
RE: Green, Moss, Reid, Atkins
crazy depth in the 4-3!
SLB: Haggan, Kerlew
MLB: DJ, Mays, Greisen
WLB: Woodyard, Ayodele, Bishop
My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch
Just what really is the status of Chris Baker, anyway.
Lingering illness, poor showing when at practice? I don’t think I remember the last time he was mentioned during the TC reports.
Did see a tweet today that he is participating in practice today
Still, I don’t know why he was inactive for so long.
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aka Solace
I heard he had the flu
that can be pretty hard on a body.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 10, 2010 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions
6 - IMO
Bannan, Williams, Green, Fields, Baker, Thomas, McBean.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 10, 2010 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions
whoops. have a hard time counting past 3. Tho I do think Thomas might get the short stick.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 10, 2010 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions
7 DL
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 10, 2010 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Is Wood big enough to hold up at ILB? Can he stave off the “talented, but often-injured” tag?
by AllBroncsallday on Aug 10, 2010 4:05 PM MDT reply actions
I think so.
What will be interesting is seeing which LB comes off the field in the nickel….
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 10, 2010 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Apparently we just signed Justin Fargas
by northoftheborder on Aug 10, 2010 4:10 PM MDT reply actions
interesting. not sure how I feel about him. NFL experience is solid…but since we got Lendale I’m not sure he’s necessary.
If he’s only for preseason bangin ok.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 10, 2010 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Looks like its part of the media packet
Available here. It’s toward the end.
by asdqqq on Aug 10, 2010 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
awesome
good to see Eddie starting the slot. He needs to stay there.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 10, 2010 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions
One oddity
it has a lot of the injured players in it, like Clady, Knowshon, and Buck, so maybe they’ll have another before the actual game? I don’t know how that all works.
They will have another (internal) depth chart for the game
I don’t know if it will get released publicly before the game, but it does get released because it is a part of the official gamebooks recording the game for posterity, and it includes all the substitutions and DNPs (did not play).
I expect an updated depth chart to be released on DB.com before the game, though.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 10, 2010 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions
unfortunately Woodyard is behind DJ and Akin Ayodele is starting (not sure I like that at all).
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 10, 2010 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Doesn't necessarily mean much
For a few reasons:
- The LB positions are the most in-flux on the team.
- It’s early, and Woodyard has more time to work his way into a bigger role.
- ‘Starter’ doesn’t really mean a lot more playing time, especially at LB right now.
- They might try different players there early to test what they have. Wood might actually be ‘higher’ on the chart than some of the others.
- The chart might (and probably will) change, even before the first game. I do like how they’re keeping Clady’s spot warm for him. No pretending there. Plus, notice how Batiste (I think it was him who was taking Polumbus’s reps) isn’t listed at LT? Stuff is definitely not settled.
Probably more that I"m not thinking of right now. I’m interested in the WR laydown, myself, and see some interesting developments (WIllis and Decker, e.g.). Hope that Eric’s injury isn’t serious and he gets back before preseason is over.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 10, 2010 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Biggest suprise (for me)
Cox passes up Smith. Just shows you that they are not playing favorites over there and really don’t care about your draft position.
you’re right. I wonder if people will relax with Alphonso if we hit a homerun with Cox?
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 10, 2010 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions
no passes
could have used that pick for anyone else if Cox does wash out. I’d say the slack would be cut in thinking that every draft pick doesn’t pan out. Sometimes they just don’t work out and the coach learned a valuable lesson on trading future 1st, EVEN IF we had 5 first round options the last two years.
by BroncoInExile on Aug 10, 2010 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions
You have they same sentiments as I do
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
Fargas
The raiders, despite being horrible the last few years have still managed to have a very respectable run game. Fargas has at times been the primary ball carrier, but didn’t hear much about him last season. He can play though. This seems to me like its just the coaching staff making sure that every spot is staying competitive in camp.
Also shows the depth of talent at RB in the league
Too bad there aren’t a lot of serviceable LB floating around looking for jobs at this point.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 10, 2010 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions
The depth chart before the game doesn't matter to me as much.....
as the injury report AFTER the game.
Fingers crossed…..
I think the team will be fine. From what I have seen and heard, they looked totally different than at this time last year (in a good way). Just keep people healthy and let’s hit Jacksonville hard.
Left Tackle
is a huge hole on our team that nobody seem to be talking about. Polumbus didn’t show me he belonged last year. He got blown up several times in pass protection. I agree he may not win the starting job. Poor Kyle.
When does Clady come back?
they hope he can be back for the first game of the season — they have said he is rehabbing really hard
"No guarantees"
For all my projections I am assuming he misses week 1, but I would be stoked if he is ready to go, with no issues before the JAX game.
Also, regarding LT, apparently Batiste has been holding his own… Color me surprised, but not too much. He is a big guy who started 8 games for the Skins before a coaching shakeup sent him packing. We will only carry 9OL, so we have to make some sacrifices. With Beadles able to play tackle, We would be at 3.5 with only Batiste or Polumbus anyways, so chances are we will play with fire until Clady returns, which shouldn’t be too long anyways. 3 OTs is typical roster construction, assuming there is versatility elsewhere.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
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Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 10, 2010 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions
McD had good things to say about baptiste today.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
He's definitely taken reps away from Polumbus
Thankfully. I was beginning to wonder when somebody would.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 10, 2010 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Justin Fargas
just about to sign by the Broncos
Is Gaffney still a starter?
I thought he was on the bubble with Stokley and McKinney.
Here is how I see the roster shaping for WRs.
In
1. Demariyius Thomas
2. Eric Decker
3. Brandon Lloyd
4. Matthew Willis
5. Eddie Royal
Bubble
6. Jabar Gaffney
7. Brandon Stokley
8. Kenny McKinnley
Practice Team
Davis Britt
Patrick Carter
Alric Arnett
Yeah that's hillarious.
Also on the bubble:
Ryan Harris
DJ Williams
Jamal Williams
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Gaffney is so far from the bubble
it ain’t even funny.
I think we will end up choosing between Lloyd and Willis for the last WR spot.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 10, 2010 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions
The way I see it
It comes down to Lloyd and Stokley and Stokley has the advantage of being a slot receiver.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
Do you guys see 6 or 7 this year?
With 6, you have to pick one of Stokes and Lloyd. If you take 7, you can keep both. Now, do you carry another WR due to the quality depth you have a the position, or do you cut one of them to hold extras at your ‘not-so-deep’ positions?
McKinnley made his decision easy by going to IR. I was pulling for him to step up this year. Maybe he’ll come back stronger after his rehab.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 10, 2010 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions
IMO
Keep 6. with the inexperience on the OL and the injuries at RB. There might be a greater need for depth there.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
Agreed
Just wanted to get other opinions. It’s a good position to be in, IMHO. Trying to decide between 2 or 3 good players, rather than trying to fill 2 or 3 holes with scrubs. :)
by BroncosBassist on Aug 11, 2010 7:17 AM MDT up reply actions
jarvis moss?
where is jarvis not on the depth chart. other players that are hurt like clady are still on the depth chart. anyone know?
Gaffney is not on the bubble, thats crazy talk
by northoftheborder on Aug 10, 2010 4:57 PM MDT reply actions
depth chart for those who didnt see it on the Broncos site
Broncos Offense
WR 84 Brandon Lloyd 88 Demaryius Thomas 82 Alric Arnett 16 Patrick Carter
LT 78 Ryan Clady 77 Tyler Polumbus 68 Zane Beadles
LG 68 Zane Beadles 70 Seth Olsen 69 Eric Olsen
C 50 J.D. Walton 71 Russ Hochstein 62 Dustin Fry
RG 73 Chris Kuper 67 D’Anthony Batiste 64 Stanley Daniels
RT 74 Ryan Harris 72 Kirk Barton 61 Paul Duncan
TE 89 Daniel Graham 81 Richard Quinn 85 Marquez Branson 83 Riar Geer
86 Nathan Overbay
WR 19 Eddie Royal 14 Brandon Stokley
WR 10 Jabar Gaffney 12 Matthew Willis 87 Eric Decker 17 Britt Davis
QB 8 Kyle Orton 9 Brady Quinn 15 Tim Tebow
FB 46 Spencer Larsen
RB 27 Knowshon Moreno 28 Correll Buckhalter 26 LenDale White 29 Bruce Hall
35 Lance Ball
40 Toney Baker
Broncos Defense
DE 98 Ryan McBean 93 Jarvis Green 79 Marcus Thomas 90 Ben Garland
NT 76 Jamal Williams 91 Ronald Fields 75 Chris Baker 79 Marcus Thomas
DE 97 Justin Bannan 99 Le Kevin Smith 65 Jeff Stehle 75 Chris Baker
OLB 57 Mario Haggan 94 Jarvis Moss 58 Baraka Atkins 53 Jammie Kirlew
92 [Elvis Dumervil]
ILB 55 D.J. Williams 59 Wesley Woodyard 49 Devin Bishop
ILB 51 Akin Ayodele 96 Joe Mays 54 Nick Greisen
OLB 56 Robert Ayers 48 Kevin Alexander 95 [Darrell Reid]
LCB 24 Champ Bailey 32 Perrish Cox 22 Alphonso Smith 41 Cassius Vaughn
RCB 21 André Goodman 33 Nate Jones 25 Tony Carter 43 Syd’Quan Thompson
S 23 Renaldo Hill 30 David Bruton 34 Kyle McCarthy 33 Nate Jones
S 20 Brian Dawkins 31 Darcel McBath
Broncos Specialists
P 4 Britton Colquitt
K 5 Matt Prater
KO 5 Matt Prater
PR 19 Eddie Royal 32 Perrish Cox 12 Matthew Willis
KR 19 Eddie Royal 32 Perrish Cox 12 Matthew Willis
PC 66 Lonie Paxton
KC 66 Lonie Paxton
H 4 Britton Colquitt
I see that Demaryius Thomas isnt on the Depth Chart
and I checked on your link and he isnt on there either. Must be a typo.
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duh i completely missed the set of WR at the top
"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson
Interesting
A couple of surprises to me from the actual depth chart:
Ayodele starting over Woodyard
Perrish Cox is competing with Nathan Jones for starting playing time
Kirlew at the bottom of the depth chart
I’m not sure how I feel about the 1st and 3rd ones.
But Cox being that high up really has me excited.
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I like you am glad to see Cox up that high on the depth chart but the reports coming back from KK and others at camp it wasnt that much of a surprise.
Regarding the Ayodele, Woodyard situation is this because McD sees them as competing for 2 different spots, Ayodele for the Strong Inside Linebacker and Woodyard for the Weak Inside Linebacker?
"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson
That seems most likely to me
Thought I think I remember that Ayodele’s skillset sort of lined up with the weakside, too. Could be size difference more than anything. I think the defense needs a bruiser on the left.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 11, 2010 6:01 AM MDT up reply actions
Interesting observations
Call me cautious due to being burned in the past, but I needed some confirmation from the team that Jarvis Moss really was elevating his game. I think the fact that he’s listed (with an injury!) as second behind Mario Haggan, who just got moved back from ILB to OLB just might be the confirmation that I was craving. If he hadn’t gotten hurt, he just might be listed as the starter opposite Ayers, with Haggan taking the LILB spot. Could just be commentary on how thin the position is, though. I probably won’t be able to get my hopes up until I see him getting significant playing time, and actually contributing on the field.
I just might faint dead away.
I’m strangely giddy at the starting OL listed on the depth chart. I think that by the end of the season, that starting 5 might have reclaimed the Broncos’ rightful place in the top 10 or so offensive lines. They seem to have the ability and tenacity to do it. I can’t believe I feel that way with the injuries and the fact that 2 of them are rookies.
Our WR depth is better than just about anyone’s, at least on paper. Give Willis and the rookies a few weeks to become real pro players, and we’ll be in good shape. I really don’t miss Marshall.
I’m still not sure why Woodyard is being promoted by the fanbase for the starting LILB position. I just don’t know that he’s strong enough for that spot. He seems like a good next-in-line behind DJ, though.
Many were right in projecting Ryan McBean at the RDE spot, with Green in rotation. I like what we’ve got over there. I"m not 100% sure about the left side, though. Bannan, I like. Smith, not so much. Maybe Baker or Fields can be moved over there, at least rotationally. I’d like to see the team draft an early DE to develop for the starting role here.
There is kind of a logjam at CB, isn’t there? I’ve heard positive things from Vaughn, but not much from Thompson. There are 7 guys that could end up being worth a spot. You really can’t keep that many, though. Maybe they put some of that quality youth on the PS (Vaughn and Thompson?), and keep either 5 (Champ/Goody/Cox/Jones and either Smith or Carter) or maybe 6? We’ll probably only carry 4 true safeties, which could help. Nate Jone’s versatility helps in case of injury to a safety or two.
I love this part of the preseason!
Holy crap, who do we end up keeping on the OL?
I’d like to see Eric Olsen moved up on the chart. Think he’d clear to the PS? Maybe the’ll move him to the left side behind Kuper, keeping Hochstein, the Olsen twins, and Batiste as the 4 backups? Beadles is a second, emergency tackle backup in that case, and you could pick 2 decent guards from the list of Kuper, Olsen/Olsen, and Hochstein for a week or two, if necessary.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 10, 2010 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions
There are too many other teams hurting at CB
to think that Denver can hide a CB on PS.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
Heh, you're probably right
There’s a reason top-shelf CB get big bucks. It’s a hard position to play, and a pretty hard position to fill with sufficient talent.
The flip side is that we might be able to parlay one or two of those marginal talents or young up-and-comers into depth somewhere else.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 11, 2010 7:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’d like to see Woodyard get the start at ILB too. I would have to agree with most of your input. Broncos’ football is ALMOST here!
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