Horse Tracks - 8/12/10
by John Bena on Aug 12, 2010 8:08 AM MDT
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Ex-Broncos intern on Shanahan's staff at Redskins training camp - The Denver Post
Steve Atwater, Terrell Davis, Steve Beuerlein and Michael Pittman — former Broncos all — are interns on Shanahan's coaching staff this summer. They have taken an entry-level, kick-the-tires, short-term job to see what coaching in the NFL is all about.
Paige: Is Tebow Time now for Broncos? - The Denver Post
Coach McDaniels confronts a dilemma with which Prince Hamlet would empathize — whether 'tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of controversy in high risk, high reward or failure, or take a conservative arm against a sea of troubles. To start or not start Tim Tebow? That is the question for Josh.
Broncos' Goodman has stability on defense cornered - The Denver Post
Quick, can you name which player led the Broncos in interceptions last year?
Woody's Mailbag: Losing Dumervil leaves big void in Broncos' defense - The Denver Post
How do you figure Denver's defense will be this season? With the loss of Elvis Dumervil, the linebacking corps isn't looking too great, but with an improved D-line and what I consider one of the better secondaries in the NFL, I still think the Broncos will be a top 10-15 defense. What do you think?
Eyeballing "third quarterback" rule - The Denver Post
Like never before, the Broncos must grasp the NFL's emergency third quarterback rule.
Analysis: Fargas, White weren't signed just to go camping with Broncos - The Denver Post
While the Broncos continue to publicly express optimism about the overall health of their running back corps, they continue to sign running backs to put on the practice field.
Q&A: Now it's up to the seniors committee to help enshrine Broncos' Gradishar in the Pro Football Hall of Fame - The Denver Post
Q: When will former Broncos linebacker Randy Gradishar be eligible for Pro Football Hall of Fame consideration again via the seniors committee?
For kicks, let's say the Denver Broncos Broncos beat the Jaguars | All Things Broncos
The slew of injuries — most notably to Elvis Dumervil, Ryan Clady and Knowshon Moreno — have lowered expectations that weren’t exactly robust to begin with.
Camp Confidential: Denver Broncos - AFC West Blog - ESPN
After he watched one key player after another limp to the training room this summer, Josh McDaniels came to a conclusion: The Denver Broncos are going to find a way to get better as a result.
Rex Ryan challenges Darrelle Revis, reps to meet with New York Jets execs and players - ESPN New York
Try to imagine this: New York Jets coach Rex Ryan, owner Woody Johnson and general manager Mike Tannenbaum seated at a table, surrounded by 80 players. On the opposite side of the table are Darrelle Revis and his two agents.
Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler warns there will be more interceptions this season - ESPN Chicago
Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler didn't take offense that a local newspaper is keeping a daily chart of his training camp interceptions, and he has a message to fans worried after he threw 26 picks last year.
2010 NFL training camps: Al Davis of Oakland Raiders likens QB Jason Campbell to Jim Plunkett - ESPN
"I really liken this team a great deal to the team of 1980, in which the great Jim Plunkett pulled us out of the doldrums, took us to the Super Bowl as a wild card, and we had so many great players who eventually made their way into the Hall of Fame," Davis said in an interview with Sirius NFL Radio.
Sources: San Diego Chargers' Shawne Merriman agrees to tender - ESPN
After missing the first part of training camp in the hopes of landing a lucrative new contract, Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman is planning to report to San Diego's camp by this weekend and sign his $3.269 million tender, according to league sources.
Philadelphia Eagles security nabs fan in new Donovan McNabb jersey - ESPN
Jim Devlin said he was just trying to stir the pot by wearing a replica of Donovan McNabb's maroon Washington Redskins jersey on the sideline at Philadelphia Eagles training camp Wednesday morning.
2010 NFL training camps: Cleveland Browns LB D'Qwell Jackson suffers another chest injury - ESPN
The Cleveland Browns are awaiting further test results on starting inside linebacker D'Qwell Jackson, who sustained his second chest muscle injury in 10 months.
The value of the NFL joint practice in August | National Football Post
Tonight, the Saints and Patriots play in Gillette Stadium in the preseason opener for both clubs, but just as we saw on Sunday during the Hall of Fame game in Canton, the starters will see limited work. Produce a drive that results in points or force a couple three-and-outs on defense, and the first team guys can pack it in for the night.
Rex on the fence | National Football Post
We knew that this was coming, we just did not know when. As the contentious negotiations and public feud between the Jets and Darrelle Revis intensifies, Rex Ryan has curbed his enthusiasm for Revis.
The NFL’s other safety issue | National Football Post
Though Mays, in some ways, was the most physically gifted safety in his class, the message teams are sending was clear: they wanted safeties who can cover. And for all of Mays’ size, speed and explosiveness, his ability to cover has been doubted.
NCAA targeting Brown to discuss Kiffin | National Football Post
The father of Tennessee running back Bryce Brown said Wednesday that NCAA investigators have asked to speak to his son about Lane Kiffin’s recruiting practices when the current USC head coach was running the program in Knoxville.
Colts sign Marcus McCauley | National Football Post
The Indianapolis Colts have signed former Minnesota Vikings third-round defensive back Marcus McCauley.
Tim Hightower tops RB depth chart in Arizona | National Football Post
Beanie Wells might be a popular pick among fantasy football players this year, especially with Kurt Warner gone and the controls being turned over the Matt Leinart.
Damian Williams, Nick Schommer activated | National Football Post
The Tennessee Titans have activated wide receiver Damian Williams and safety Nick Schommer from the physically unable to perform list after both players passed their physicals.
Balmer taking it to limit with 49ers | National Football Post
We doubt that was Balmer’s goal, and now he’s in a mighty precarious position, unexcused in his absence from the San Francisco 49ers training camp. The defensive end was given two days by Singletary to sort out what was described as a personal matter. He went through Day 3 on Wednesday. The 49ers have placed Balmer on the exempt/left squad list, according to a league source.
Jets' frustration with Revis talks on display on HBO | National Football Post
During the first episode of Hard Knocks, the New York Jets' frustration with the lack of progress in the Darrrell Revis talks was on full display.
NFL.com news: Colts owner: Center Saturday out 2 to 6 weeks after surgery
The Colts owner told reporters Wednesday that the team's Pro Bowl center could miss two to six weeks after having arthroscopic knee surgery to remove what was described as a "loose body."
NFL.com news: Vikings' Moats has hand in designing 'Madden 11' video game
Moats has started his sixth year in the NFL, now with the Minnesota Vikings after previously playing for the Philadelphia Eagles and Houston Texans. The backup running back is just trying to pick up the Vikings' playbook and make enough of an impression to stick on the regular-season roster. He knows there's nothing guaranteed in this game.
NFL.com news: Bengals' Lewis has strong words for out-of-shape OT Smith
The Cincinnati Bengals are still waiting for offensive tackle Andre Smith to get into shape. And coach Marvin Lewis is growing impatient.
NFL.com news: Vastly improved Ryan has Falcons poised to catapult Saints
For the first time in franchise history, the Atlanta Falcons have put back-to-back winning seasons together, and they appear far from satisfied.
NFL.com news: How to smooth things over with unhappy high-profile players
At the risk of oversimplifying each situation, there are three courses of action open to these teams: "Pay the man" (i.e. give the player a new contract in the vicinity of what he's asking for), "trade the man" (obvious enough) or "play it out" (essentially let the player continue to dangle and more or less call his bluff).
Delhomme focused on taking it easy - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Jake Delhomme(notes) and anxiety just don’t mix. The more intense he gets, the more things come apart, like trying to hook some fish on one of those lakes in Louisiana where he grew up. It doesn’t pay to reel faster.
Patriots' Brady gets down to business - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
The words came out of Tom Brady’s(notes) mouth before he could process their impact. Hilarity ensued – though not for a good 45 minutes, until a New England Patriots training-camp practice was over and the exacting quarterback had gotten over his hissy fit.
Alabama grand jury gets drug case against Russell - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
A judge sent the drug possession case against former Oakland Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell(notes) to a grand jury Wednesday despite testimony that the codeine drink found at Russell’s home belonged to a longtime friend.
Saints RB Bush returns; Hamilton injures knee - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Reggie Bush(notes) returned to practice after missing one session with cramps, and he might have become even more important for the defending Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints on Wednesday.
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Have we ever found out what happened to Decker or Thomas? How long will each be out?
How long with Kuper be out?
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
What I heard
Thomas MRI was negative. Decker showed that he reaggravated a high ankle sprain. Thats all I know
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
I HEARD
Gaffney, and D J Williams left the field yesterday hurt also, anybody know anything?
D.J.
Has been nursing some kind of injury for awhile now. Broncos aren’t saying what it is. He was out yesterday in the “do not touch” jersey, but left the field early…
-TSG
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WHAT ABOUT
Gaffney, according to BRONCOTALK: “Jabar Gaffney also left practice with an unspecified injury.”
pulled right hamstring is what the Post is saying
Inside linebacker D.J. Williams started the morning practice wearing an orange “no contact” jersey because of an undisclosed injury. He left the field limping with what appeared to be a pulled right hamstring and didn’t participate in the evening practice.
I hope someone can do a post that relays the injury status of all our players. That is quite a task right about now.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
Kuper
Has an ankle injury.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
From DB.com
D.J. Williams, Jamal Williams, Daniel Graham, Jabar Gaffney and Demaryius Thomas sat out the afternoon session. They all appeared to be headed to the weight room for a workout along with Knowshon Moreno and Correll Buckhalter.
Notice they don’t mention Doom or Decker
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
From Maxdenver
ATTENDANCE: Running backs Correll Buckhalter, Knowshon Moreno and LenDale White, wide receivers Demaryius Thomas, Jabar Gaffney and Eric Decker, tight ends Daniel Graham and Marquez Branson, offensive linemen Russ Hochstein, Dustin Fry and Chris Kuper, linebackers Jarvis Moss, D.J. Williams and Elvis Dumervil and nose tackle Jamal Williams did not practice Wednesday evening
Doesn’t say what injury or how long.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
And for those of you that think one can’t call a bust after just one season, I give you Andre Smith of the Cincinnati Bungles.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
Certainly not hearing good things about Phonz right now
Seems like he is pretty low on the depth chart by reading todays articles.
You probably get this a lot. This isn't the real Caesar's Palace is it?....Did Caesar live here?
You know where I wanna go? I'll tell you where. Someplace warm. A place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talking about a little place called Aspen
He’s had a few picks in TC to go with getting burnt several times.
The dude is a medicore talent we WAY overdrafted. But he does seems to care (try) enough to carve out an NFL career of some sort.
I can’t wait to see our young CBs play in the preseason games. Sounds like Cox is pretty awesome so that will take off a lot of the sting if Phonz continues to stink.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
+1
I haven’t been hearing good things about Smith. Starting to side with McGeorge on this one…the kid is starting to look like a poor pick. I hope he shows us otherwise in the preseason games.
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Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
What I've been hearing is that it
…it’s mental now. He flashes — but not like last training camp. This according to Alfred Williams, who said Smith had a great camp last year.
You can't.
A guy who plays poorly his first year is called a “rookie”.
If he’s still playing that way his SECOND year. THEN maybe you can pick a different word.
You're either a fan or you're not.
by TheMastermind on Aug 12, 2010 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions
A guy that was too fat to play in this rookie year and too fat to play in TC in his second season has earned a different word.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
Or as Tom Brady prefers, fat cow
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
Andre Smith missed the first part of training camp and then the first preseason game last year because he wouldn't sign his contract.
Then, when he did sign his contract, he injured his foot 3 practices later. I watched that Cincinnati hard knocks series about 2 days ago from my DVR.
You can’t call him a bust, yet…
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 12, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions
Atwater is still a beast.
Looks like a tank in the under armour.
You probably get this a lot. This isn't the real Caesar's Palace is it?....Did Caesar live here?
You know where I wanna go? I'll tell you where. Someplace warm. A place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talking about a little place called Aspen
McDaniels feels more comfortable with Kyle Orton now. After Orton’s mediocre season in 2009, the Broncos brought in Brady Quinn for the specific purpose of challenging Orton for the starting job in Orton’s final season in Denver.
Orton responded initially by not working out with his receivers, absorbing the playbook and showing lackluster interest early in the offseason training activities. When the Broncos became enthralled with, and then drafted, Tebow, Orton became more motivated to win back his job and earn a long-term contract from some franchise.
Is that really true?
I think the contract issue had more to do with that..
I think Orton, like many RFA’s, were trying to decide how they were going to handle it. Once Orton decided he was going to sign the tender and get to work, he did…
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in woody's mind,
whatever fits his story becomes true. what a jerk.
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by Jay Fin Anderson on Aug 12, 2010 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow, there's a lot of assumptions and stretches in that
That first paragraph could be more accurately rewritten to say:
McD has full confidence in Kyle Orton right now. After Orton had a career year in 2009, the Broncos brought in Brady Quinn for the specific purpose of replacing Chris Simms as Orton’s backup. With Orton playing on a tender, it will be interesting to see if this is his final season in Denver or if he plays well enough to be given an extention and compete for the starting job next year as well.
Concerning the second paragraph, I agree with John. Orton was assessing how to handle the “non-volutary workouts” since he was one of the players caught up in the final league year RFA rules. Orton’s had to compete from day one for his job in this league and he knows it’s no different now. I highly doubt us trading for Quinn got his panties in a bunch and then the drafting of Tebow brought him out of his “lacluster interest” and pushed him to try to win back his job.
Woody should be working for some politician with those story spinning abilities.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
Orton was at the players reps meetings in early March once that was over he returned and signed his tender. This was way before we got Tebow
Is Woody telling us that we started our offseason program before the SB was over in early Feb because if not there is an interview from McDaniels in mid February where talks about Orton.
We traded for Quinn in mid March while Orton was at the players rep meetings and he was interviewed at the meetings and said point blank he was not holding out and would return as soon as the meetings were over and he had been in contact with the coach and he knew this . Orton returned within a week and signed his tender .
Woody really is making things up now . Orton probably refused an interview with him or something and who can blame him after the smear campaign that Woodys been on .
Since this is the first whiff of anything like this,
I think Woody was carrying on the Shakespeare drama theme. Sounds like his interpretation, not fact based.
I think Paige is stirring the pot here
Merely asking whether or not to start Tebow is a joke. He’s not ready and by all reports is far behind Orton and Quinn. Yes he’s a winner, but if you’re going to use that criteria, Orton is also a winner. Orton is a winner in the NFL. If we’re not doing well by week 6, articles like this are going to create demands from restless fans to start an unready Tebow. And when he doesn’t start, it will foster further disdain for McD.
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Aug 12, 2010 8:27 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
MC-DO-LITTLE IS ARROGANT AND HATES COLORADO
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by Jay Fin Anderson on Aug 12, 2010 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Mr. Anderson
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Aug 12, 2010 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions
What
Am I the only person who thinks this is hilarious?
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by mr.migglesworth on Aug 12, 2010 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
very joking.
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by Jay Fin Anderson on Aug 14, 2010 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
Woody needs to spend less time trying to be cute and more time trying to be relevant. Save the cheese for your diary Woods. We want to hear about sports.
Start Tebow? That isn’t a question at all. It ain’t happening unless Orton and Quinn both fall into a well.
Next story, Woody. How about something on King Lear?
You're either a fan or you're not.
by TheMastermind on Aug 12, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions
mcD stirred his own pot plenty on this one.
not even going back to cutler, he and xanders chose not to extend orton’s contract, then brought in brady quinn and then took a QB in the first round who is still considered by most to be a reach. it isn’t exactly taking the low profile route. if we’re not doing well by week 6, mcD will probably already be considering the switch, with or without fans and media breathing down his neck.
more power to mcD on his bold moves and i’m rooting for him, but there should be unrest and questions if things aren’t going well at week 6.
I think he actually does want strong competition at every postion on this team
All coaches say that, but what most of them really mean is strong competition at each position except QB as most coaches seem to be wary of creating a QB controversy. I don’t think McD is wary of that at all. He knows the personalities of his 3 QB’s and isn’t concerned about a controversy. He believes that more competition among the players equals more improvement of those players.
We’re also much deeper now with Orton, Quinn, & Tebow >>>>>>>>>>Orton, Simms, & Brandstater. Roster depth has been a focus at all of the positions since McD has arrived and I’m not surprised that QB was on his list in that as well.
McD won’t start Tebow until Tebow is ready. Not a moment before then. No matter what our record is and no matter what the media and fans are saying.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
Lol
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by KaptainKirk on Aug 12, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions
competition's a great idea
but simms and brandstater were mcD’s players too.
competition wasn’t really my point though. i’m just saying that if things go badly, mcD will probably have earned the reviews he gets from the fans and media. fans and media aren’t always on the wrong side of things.
as far as not bringing in tebow until he’s ready, well, kind of. if the broncos find their way out of the competition early on, then there’s not a much better way to get a rookie playing experience than to have him play an extended preseason. that would be a monolithic disaster though, and i don’t see it happening.
also, if the broncs do go the orton, c_style route, i think it would be a bad sign if you’re seeing a bunch of p.t. …. but then, i’ve never seen you play QB… :-)
Don't worry
I’ve been taking lots of mental reps.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
Oh Woody...
I love how he asks things no one else is taking seriously. Tebow now or no Tebow now…that isn’t the question, Paige.
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by underdog on Aug 12, 2010 8:30 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks, John.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 12, 2010 9:37 AM MDT reply actions
QB situation
Its goona play out like the qb situation how plummer was thrown to the bench for cutler TT will start the last 6 to 7 games to get him more prepared for the next year bcuz we all know Quinn is not the future and if mcd doesnt have a winning record by next year hes not going to play out his contract of 5 years
by broncopride on Aug 12, 2010 10:10 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
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