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Orton shines brightest, Tebow also makes plays in Broncos' 33-24 loss to Bengals - The Denver Post
Perhaps the NFL's only starting quarterback who is less recognized than not one but both of his backups, Kyle Orton may have earned himself some love.

Krieger: Broncos' Orton way out in front at quarterback - The Denver Post
So now we know: Josh McDaniels does have a quarterback competition going, but not the one the world wants to see.

Broncos' pass rush off to slow start without Dumervil - The Denver Post
These aren't the types of problems that a new defensive coordinator should be figuring out in August.

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Time to promote Tebow, demote Quinn - AFC West Blog - ESPN
It’s time for the Denver Broncos to promote Tim Tebow to their No. 2 quarterback, if only to keep him upright.

Denver Broncos vs. Cincinnati Bengals - Recap - August 15, 2010 - ESPN
"It was one of those things where you knew he was going to score on the last play of the game, either run it in or throw it in there," Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer said. "He's such a competitor. I've been a big fan of his ever since he started at Florida. He's one of the greatest college football players."

2010 NFL training camps: Reports say Arizona Cardinals' Larry Fitzgerald sprained MCL in right knee - ESPN
An MRI showed Cardinals wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald sprained the MCL in his right knee in Arizona's 19-16 loss to Houston on Saturday night, according to multiple media reports.

2010 NFL training camps: Report says Buffalo Bills' Fred Jackson out 4-6 weeks, Marshawn Lynch to miss 3-4 weeks - ESPN
Buffalo Bills running backs Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch likely will miss the rest of the preseason, the Buffalo News reported Sunday.

2010 NFL training camps: Houston Texans RB Ben Tate needs surgery on 'pretty severe' ankle injury - ESPN
Houston Texans rookie running back Ben Tate will need surgery after suffering a severe ankle injury in Saturday's preseason opener in Arizona.

2010 NFL training camps: Dallas Cowboys starting right tackle Marc Colombo carted off after suffering knee injury during practice - ESPN Dallas
The Dallas Cowboys suffered a scare Sunday when starting right tackle Marc Colombo was carted off the field following practice with a right knee injury.

2010 NFL training camps: Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones recovering from July surgery - ESPN Dallas
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Sunday that he's feeling better and headed toward a full recovery after undergoing what he called major surgery on July 20, a few days before his team started training camp.

Torry Holt (knee) placed on season-ending IR by New England Patriots - ESPN Boston
Veteran wide receiver Torry Holt was placed on injured reserve by the New England Patriots on Sunday, the team announced. Holt has a knee injury and will undergo surgery this week, according to his agent, Kennard McGuire.

Jamaal Jackson, Todd Herremans return to Philadelphia Eagles practice - ESPN
Philadelphia Eagles center Jamaal Jackson and guard Todd Herremans were both taken off the physically unable to perform list as the team returned to practice at Lehigh University on Sunday.

2010 NFL training camps: Jeff Fisher says Tennessee Titans' Stafon Johnson out 8-12 weeks - ESPN
Rookie Stafon Johnson has a game ball from his NFL debut. He also has had his dislocated right ankle repaired, and Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher isn't ready to call the running back's season over just yet.

In August, rookie QBs should make mistakes | National Football Post
Starting this past Thursday night — with Jimmy Clausen getting his first preseason action as a pro — and continuing throughout the weekend, we got to see rookie QBs play in game situations, manage the offense and try to control the flow and tempo of the ball game.

Building a head coach | National Football Post
If I could create the perfect head coach, I would borrow from these Super Bowl coaches (limiting it to those I have been around).

Browns sign Taurus Johnson | National Football Post
Cut by the Miami Dolphins last week, former University of South Florida wide receiver Taurus Johnson has a new gig.

Rolando McClain impressing in Oakland | National Football Post
Oakland Raiders rookie middle linebacker Rolando McClain is off to a good start, impressing the coaching staff with his instincts, maturity and hitting ability.

Larry Johnson to start next Redskins' game | National Football Post
With the Washington Redskins taking turns in the AARP backfield, Larry Johnson will get the start Saturday when the team plays the Baltimore Ravens in its second preseason game.

Just a sprained right thumb for Colt McCoy | National Football Post
It was a rough NFL debut for Cleveland Browns rookie quarterback Colt McCoy, but at least he didn't break his thumb.

49ers trying to trade AWOL Balmer | National Football Post
Before the San Francisco 49ers flat out give up on Kentwan Balmer, they’re going to see if one man’s trash can indeed be another man’s treasure.

Ravens say Marc Bulger is still into the game | National Football Post
Days after ESPN analysts Ron Jaworski and Mike Tirico said that Baltimore Ravens backup quarterback Marc Bulger seemed deflated and not into football anymore, team spokesman Kevin Byrne said that he believes Jaworski was referencing a conversation with Bulger from last season when he played for the 1-15 St. Louis Rams.

Jets, Giants looking to win New Meadowlands opener - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Bragging rights and a happy housewarming are on the line.

Wayne Q&A: Fried food, the U and new contract - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Wide receiver Reggie Wayne(notes) spent the offseason asking the Indianapolis Colts for a new contract. While he didn’t get it, that didn’t stop him from getting in the best shape possible for his 10th season with the Colts.


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I’m glad to have Krieger point out the things I tend to miss when he astutely notes that Orton is ahead of the other two in the QB race. I didn’t pick that up but I don’t have a trained eye like his.

Good game for the Broncos since our 1st string whipped up on Cincy’s 1st and it was their 2nd game…. I don’t think anyone suffered a injury that will require much time off.

The guys that played in the 3rd and 4th quarters better do a lot of running in practice because they were loafing on the field. What a sorry lack of effort from our backups. Denver is not going to keep 80 guys on the active roster so you’d think these guys might actually want to try to win jobs instead of arm tackling and jogging out their routes.

Denver: 32-32 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2010 7:49 AM MDT reply actions  

The tackling and coverage abilities from our camp fodder was gross.

by Todd Jewell on Aug 16, 2010 8:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

The lack of effort from the camp fodder was pathedic.

Denver: 32-32 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2010 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

I find it thard to believe they weren't trying

given how badly they want to be on the team. Maybe they were so tentative and hesitant (i.e. slow at reading and reacting) that it looked like they weren’t trying.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Aug 16, 2010 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

All the missed arm tackles and jogging around during the plays made it look like they weren’t trying.

I’m glad our 1st team looked so good… But we may have some big depth issues at a few spots on our team (DB, OTs, RB).

Denver: 32-32 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2010 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I really liked the depth at all LB spots – Atkins, Kirlew and Alexander all flahed often.

Was VERY disappointed with Phonz, Cox and Jones. They sucked and played little effort or concentration.

Denver: 32-32 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

To follow-up...

I’m going to defer assessment on the DBs. Champ says Cox can play. That’s quite an endorsement.

by JeffG on Aug 16, 2010 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Champ also said

that Hamza Abdullah could play.

The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese in the trap.

by bradley on Aug 16, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Champ said Cox could play in training camp.

some guys just can’t play well in the games.
hopefully Cox can improve on his training camp success…somebody needs to, out of Cox, Smith, and Jones.

by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pathetic comes to mind

ST coverage too. But I think some of this should be laid at the feet of the DC. As a coach, you’ve got to motivate the troops. Sure, they’re professionals and you’d think they would fight like hell for their roster spot, but the coach needs to instill that ‘hell bent for leather’ mentality, and it was woefully missing. And good morning Goody, hope you’re in shape, because any OC in their right mind will attack your side, not the Champ’s.

Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll eat for a lifetime.
"Losing stinks" - Josh McDaniels

by azbroncomaniac on Aug 16, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks, John.

"All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players."

"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 16, 2010 7:52 AM MDT reply actions  

Mark Kiz says "knucklehead" a lot.

"All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players."

"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 16, 2010 7:56 AM MDT reply actions  

it's more appropriate than most words I could think of

don’t you agree?

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
PS3 ID: KoRnHo|ed

by Broncs55 on Aug 16, 2010 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ben Tate

Too bad about the Texans rookie RB – I was hoping the Texans could finally overcome the Colts, but this won’t help. And too bad about Tory Holt – I always liked his game.

The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese in the trap.

by bradley on Aug 16, 2010 8:08 AM MDT reply actions  

orton looked amazing out there last night. the guy was in full attack mode, getting it done

quinn probably just played himself into the number 3 QB spot. unless we see significant improvement soon, anyway

tebow looked great for where he is at right now. he should probably be number 2 QB, with a lot of learning still yet to do. but he was impressive

by lolcopter on Aug 16, 2010 8:57 AM MDT reply actions  

i also have to tip my hat to the 2 rookie lineman, walton and beadles. played the whole game and looked great

batiste also did pretty well at T

by lolcopter on Aug 16, 2010 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Replay?

Does anyone know if NFL Rewind offers up exhibition games too, or just regular season games? I have a sub to the season to watch Broncos games online (after they’re archived) but looks like they may be cheapskates and not offer up exhibition games too.

Otherwise have to wait til Tuesday night it appears to watch replay of it on NFL Network. Knowing the score doesn’t matter much, just want to see some of the action…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 16, 2010 9:02 AM MDT reply actions  

Year-Two results on the McD playbook

We’ve now gotten pre-season looks at 5 QBs taking their first shot at the McD playbook. Every contestant got his hat handed to him on his first time out.

I’ve had patience with McD because I buy what’s being sold about his system. The theory all along was that it’s a short-term disadvantage, but a long-term advantage. In year one, there is just too much to master, especially when you havea roster molded to the equally distinctive Shanny approach. The progress we’ve seen in year 2 from Orton is excellent. We’ll know for sure that things are working in a year, when Quinn and Tebow are in their second camp, and have the chance to show real improvement.

by Chibronx on Aug 16, 2010 9:15 AM MDT reply actions  

The best thing McD did was call a late 4th quarter TO on a defensive stop. Gave Tebow the time to mount that last drive and really build his confidence. Tim looked like a 1st round QB last night and that drive showcased what he can bring to the NFL.

McD gets an check plus for his game day coaching in this game.

Denver: 32-32 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Aug 16, 2010 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha a check plus?

Coming from you, I’ll take that!

It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!

by Alex on Aug 16, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jim Armstrong

Seems to think the Raiders are the best team in the division this year; he doesn’t much like the Broncos in year two under McDaniels.

Evidently, he’s watching different games than I am.

I’m sorry, I just don’t get the injury hysteria pushed by so many excitable “experts.”. Better now than week 4 of pre-season or week 4 of the regular season. Other than Doom, we’ll have most every other starter ready — with Clady iffy for the first few games. We have the ability to go from 3-4 to 4-3 with proper personnel, and we have the right personnel (in my opinion) to do some creative blitzing.

Listening to Alfred Williams (who was a skeptic last season), Richard Quinn is a monster blocker, and Graham — well, we know what he can do. I think we’ll rely on them for protection the first few weeks. After that, I really like the makeup of our first and second teams.

Could surprise this year.

by JeffG on Aug 16, 2010 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’ve been a firm believer we have a top 10 defense between our first and 2nd squads.

But our camp fodder just really sucks – although there are a couple that show some flashes, but a couple out of a couple dozen is not that spectacular!

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
PS3 ID: KoRnHo|ed

by Broncs55 on Aug 16, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Does anybody have awesome camp fodder?

No snark on my part — it’s a serious question?

by Chibronx on Aug 16, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

good point!

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
PS3 ID: KoRnHo|ed

by Broncs55 on Aug 16, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

If we wanted to be right

Wouldn’t we try and pick the logical team?

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Aug 16, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

don't know about you guys

but I pick the Broncos as the dark horse this season lol

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
PS3 ID: KoRnHo|ed

by Broncs55 on Aug 16, 2010 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Kyle Orton: “I’m really excited abut our offense. We’re going to have a unit that can dominate a MF game.”

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard Kyle so bold. OK, so I put in the “MF” part, but the rest is true… and bold. And I like to hear it.

It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!

by Alex on Aug 16, 2010 10:33 AM MDT reply actions  

Alex

I saw this too – that alone is a lot to be excited about!

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
PS3 ID: KoRnHo|ed

by Broncs55 on Aug 16, 2010 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yep, especially considering we’ve still got fairly un-tapped resources in Thomas and Decker that hopefully will be ready to produce as the season goes forward, as well as two of our starting linemen back, Clady and Kuper. His confidence is um, confidence inspiring.

It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!

by Alex on Aug 16, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the word "dominate" is something that McD has been saying in meetings.

Because it seems like a lot of players have been using the word dominate. KO, Ayers are the two I can think of off of the top of my head.

by black_knight101 on Aug 16, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I really liked Tebow's decision making

Although he takes a long time, he seems to recognize where he likes the match ups and then delivers. You can tell he’s been studying hard and working hard, since this is his first playing under fire and he didn’t throw into quadruple coverage, like someone else did.

Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll eat for a lifetime.
"Losing stinks" - Josh McDaniels

by azbroncomaniac on Aug 16, 2010 10:55 AM MDT reply actions  

Difficult to draw any conclusions about Tebow

one one or another. He was playing against 3rd and 4th stringers. Quinn didn’t look good and that needs to be corrected. We need a quality veteran backup QB, in case KO goes down. Tebow is just too far away from being ready to step in and perform well at the NFL level. If Brady Quinn doesn’t improve, then McD should bring in another veteran.

by rocko1 on Aug 16, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

agree

In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.

by broncosmontana on Aug 16, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jay Cutler? Oh...

"All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players."

"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 16, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Stafon Johnson story

Is heartbreaking, really rooting for the kid as soon as he gets back

by Warren Todd on Aug 16, 2010 2:08 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Wow

The Broncos have way too much invested in Tebow for him to being playing behind a third-string offensive line any longer. Plus, the current No. 2 quarterback, Brady Quinn, showed nothing in Sunday night’s 33-24 loss in Cincinnati to prove he deserves to be a backup NFL quarterback.

Call me crazy, but I can barely believe he wrote that. I like the new, decisive Bill Williamson! LOL

In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.

by broncosmontana on Aug 16, 2010 2:21 PM MDT reply actions  

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