Horse Tracks - 8/19/10
by John Bena on Aug 19, 2010 4:49 AM MDT
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Broncos QB Tebow learns while nursing sore ribs - The Denver Post
All that was missing when Tim Tebow took off running on the final play of the game was significance.
Jarvis Moss returns to Broncos' practice - The Denver Post
This much was clear by the conclusion of Wednesday's two-hour practice: Jarvis Moss' legs are just fine.
Woody's Mailbag: Westbrook seemed like a fit for Broncos - The Denver Post
Woody, my man, why would Coach McD go after LenDale White (a guy who wouldn't even be able to play until later in the season) and Justin Fargas instead of Brian Westbrook? Westbrook would add much needed leadership to the offense, and he would mesh well with Correll Buckhalter. I thought this would be a no-brainer. What are your thoughts?
Analysis: Denver's wide receivers not known for scoring a lot of touchdowns - The Denver Post
However, the wide receivers Orton throws to are going to live with that level of pressure if the Broncos' offense struggles. And touchdowns have been difficult to get for Denver's wideouts during their NFL careers.
Cotton: Elway won't pass up shot at Colorado Senior Open - The Denver Post
There are many things one normally associates with turning 50 — aches, pains and AARP cards foremost among them. But when John Elway hit the Big 5-0 in June, one thing above all else crossed his mind.
Q&A: Opposing defenses will test Tebow any way they can - The Denver Post
After watching Tim Tebow's preseason debut in the Cincinnati game, it seems clear that teams will apply even more pressure than usual against any other rookie quarterback. Apparently, defensive coordinators feel that he is more susceptible than most given his struggles with mechanics and alleged difficulty reading defenses.
It appears Abdul Hodge delivered Tebow’s first injury | All Things Broncos
Going back and looking at the replay a couple times on Tim Tebow’s touchdown run on the final play of the Broncos’ preseason game Sunday at Cincinnati, it appears he suffered a rib injury after taking a blow from Bengals linebacker Abdul Hodge.
Jarvis Moss, Eric Decker return to Denver Broncos practice after injuries | All Things Broncos
The Broncos had two potentially key players return to practice Wednesday. Outside linebacker Jarvis Moss was back sporting a cast on his left hand. Moss suffered a broken hand nearly two weeks ago, soon after he moved into Elvis Dumervil’s position at the edge-rush spot of the Broncos’ 3-4 defense.
Running backs Lance Ball and Justin Fargas battling for Broncos first-team - The Denver Post
A look at Broncos training camp practice Wednesday at Dove Valley:
Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (dehydration) sidelined for another practice - ESPN
Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth has been sidelined for another practice, this time with lingering effects from dehydration.
New York Jets coach Rex Ryan fired back at Tony Dungy, saying "he unfairly judged me" - ESPN New York
The New York Jets used to be considered a cursed franchise. Now they're a franchise that curses.
Eli Manning sits out New York Giants practice, won't play Saturday vs. Pittsburgh Steelers - ESPN New York
Wearing a blue New York Giants hat, Eli Manning threw a few light passes in one-on-one drills but otherwise stood on the side and watched Wednesday's practice.
Tennessee Titans running back LeGarrette Blount punches teammate's helmet - ESPN
The rookie running back capped a feisty night practice for the Tennessee Titans with a short punch to the helmet of defensive end Eric Bakhtiari a few moments after having his own helmet ripped off for the second time in as many plays.
Dallas Cowboys guard Kyle Kosier suffers sprained MCL, out 4-6 weeks - ESPN Dallas
Dallas Cowboys starting left guard Kyle Kosier apparently suffered a sprained MCL in his right knee during Wednesday morning's practice and could miss four to six weeks.
Report: Chargers holdout Marcus McNeill meets with GM - ESPN
Holdout left tackle Marcus McNeill met Wednesday with San Diego Chargers general manager A.J. Smith, although it wasn't immediately clear if the session was productive.
2010 NFL training camps: Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant says he would shake the hand of Miami Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland, who asked if his mom was a prostitute - ESPN Dallas
Dallas Cowboys rookie wide receiver Dez Bryant said that if he had the chance, he would welcome Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland and coach Tony Sparano with open arms.
Inside the playbook: the Redskins' swap boot | National Football Post
During the preseason, it is tough to draw up formations and schemes on the chalkboard due to the basic and vanilla game plans we see on August weekends. But, with the Redskins, we should discuss a vital aspect to their playbook — because we will see it throughout the regular season.
Brett back into open arms | National Football Post
It was certainly interesting watching The Arrival, Part II yesterday as the private plane carrying one Brett Favre landed in Minnesota with transfer to Ryan Longwell’s SUV. I texted Ryan to tell him that he became the new Al Cowlings with his drive from the airport to the facility on national display from helicopter cameras. He drove better than Cowlings, I thought.
Coordinators play the game of ‘up or down’ | National Football Post
NFL coordinators forever have been trying to figure out if they are best served watching games from the press box or on the sidelines.
Are Dungy's comments on Rex off base? | National Football Post
One of the benefits (if there are any) of having a career that can be labeled with the word "journeyman" is that I was able to play for a number of head coaches and coordinators. Mike Martz, Mike Sherman, Steve Spurrier, Joe Gibbs and Dick Jauron. Five head coaches in seven years and with coordinators like Lovie Smith and Gregg Williams on top of that, you get to see both sides of the coaching spectrum.
Arthur Jones fined $5,000 by NFL | National Football Post
Baltimore Ravens rookie defensive tackle Arthur Jones was fined $5,000 for a block below the waist he delivered during Cary Williams' interception returning in a preseason win over the Carolina Panthers last week.
Tim Tebow dealing with rib injury | National Football Post
Denver Broncos rookie quarterback Tim Tebow is reportedly dealing with a rib injury.
Jairus Byrd out indefinitely after groin surgery | National Football Post
The Buffalo Bills' defense took a major hit today.
Source: Lardarius Webb progressing quickly | National Football Post
Baltimore Ravens cornerback Lardarius Webb is making steady progress from his surgically-repaired torn anterior cruciate ligament, improving to the point where he could be on the verge of passing his physical and being activated from the physically unable to perform list.
Trent Williams likes to drive fast, really, really fast | National Football Post
According to the Washington Post, the No. 4 pick in the April draft is due in Fairfax County court next week for a reckless driving ticket. Williams was busted June 6 at 1:10 a.m. cruising at 90 mph on the toll road. It’s a 55 mph zone, and anyone who has driven on it often knows it is a place that law enforcement regularly prowls looking for speeders. That’s where Williams being a rookie didn’t help.
Cardinals sign WR Mike Jones; release S Aaron Rouse | National Football Post
The Arizona Cardinals announced that they have signed former Arizona State wide receiver Mike Jones.
Patriots broker injury settlement with Torry Holt | National Football Post
The New England Patriots have brokered an injury settlement with veteran wide receiver Torry Holt, a league source confirmed.
Source: No structural damage to David Hale's back | National Football Post
Baltimore Ravens reserve offensive lineman David Hale didn't suffer any structural damage to his back during a collision with Pro Bowl defensive tackle Haloti Ngata where he landed on his tailbone, according to an NFL source with knowledge of the situation.
NFL.com news: Favre not 100 percent healthy, but he's fully committed to Vikes
As far as Brett Favre was concerned, he was finished.
NFL.com news: Seahawks' Hill agrees to stipulations in domestic-violence case
Seattle Seahawks linebacker Leroy Hill will have a domestic-violence charge dismissed if he complies with Issaquah Municipal Court stipulations for 18 months.
NFL.com news: Cassel heads crop of QBs who must perform this season
For several quarterbacks, 2010 is a make-or-break season.
Seahawks trade DE Jackson to Lions for pick - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
The Seattle Seahawks traded defensive end and 2008 first-round pick Lawrence Jackson(notes) to the Detroit Lions on Wednesday for an undisclosed draft choice in 2011.
Favre return has makings for disastrous sequel - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
At long last, Brett Favre(notes) is back on the practice field, meaning it is once again safe to come outside in the great state of Minnesota. Purple-faced Minnesota Vikings fans can exhale, Brad Childress can stop pulling out what’s left of his hair, and Ryan Longwell(notes) can auction off his black BMW SUV to help feed the homeless – or, better yet, to help his groveling employers pay for the non-materialistic quarterback’s reported contract adjustment.
Minnesota Vikings, Brett Favre forge a strong bond - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN
Cue the laugh track. Brett Favre said this is his final NFL season.
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Good stuff, John.
Well, this is good news.
Having Moss on the field on passing downs allowed the team to move Mario Haggan back to inside linebacker.
I feel better about our ILB corps with Mario there, and I’d like to think Jarvis has started to turn a corner. Let’s see how he does during the next preseason game. A huge part of me is expecting let-down, partially because of past on-field performance, and partially because he seems to be a total train-wreck. What was with the sprint off the field? Could be nothing, but the fact that Jones wrote it that way suggests that it was unusual. Meh, I gotta ignore garbage like that and let his actual play tell me what kind of football player he’s going to be.
crap, I stopped reading too soon
Decker coming back is even better news. Man, I feel like it’s time for some upbeat stuff to come out and some of the injuries should be mending. This might start a wave of returns. Dare I hope?
by BroncosBassist on Aug 19, 2010 5:41 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks, John.
I’ve been penciling in Mario at OLB ever since Doom went down, but I really want to see Mario at LILB. If Moss can somehow keep Mario permanently at LILB, I’ll be ecstatic (as it’ll mean Moss is performing well, too).
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"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 19, 2010 7:48 AM MDT reply actions
What the frick is wrong with Buckhalter? Why is he still not practicing?
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
They are going to take things slow because he had a neck/back injury.
You don’t want to rush things like that.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
by Troy Hufford on Aug 19, 2010 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions
He is still sidelined with injury from the reports I have read.
He didn’t practice tuesday and he is a longshot to return by the second preseason game, as well.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
by Troy Hufford on Aug 19, 2010 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions
That and Buck being a veteran player
who is known to get bumps and bruises and there’s especially no reason to be risking it by having him play earlier in the preseason. Hopefully will see him out there later in the exhibition schedule.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
“There’s a chance Buckhalter (back) will return on a limited basis this week. Moreno (hamstring) is not expected back until next week. White’s status is uncertain.”
by Todd Jewell on Aug 19, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't think Klis has ever played football.
At the NFL level you want a guy who’s programmed to bring 100 percent to the table 100 percent of the time. It the second and third teams as a whole had played better Tebow wouldn’t have felt the need to do what he did. That’s the lesson the team should take from this, not that our Prize Pupil got a boo boo. Hindsight is convenient but you bring it every play, every day. You don’t slide on the goal line when you have a shot to score. You don’t mentally choose to phone it in one play here, one play there.
I didn’t hear many people criticizing him for his decision before he turned up bruised – this is a violent game and he could just have easily have bruised his ribs. It could just as easily have happened on any other play in the game. That’s the way the game is played.
You're either a fan or you're not.
“I don’t think Klis has ever played football”.
Klis is a baseball fan and a baseball writer that the DP foolishly moved over to the Bronco beat after Pork Chop took a job with ESPN.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
But the guy beats the pants off Pork Chop. Pork Chop’s shctick at the post read like a computer parsing program generating a story out of a box score. I kept thinking: Who’s this tubby dude who writes all these words without saying anything?
The real question is how the proud daily in one of the nation’s most football-crazed cities decided the likes of Pork Chop and Kils were good enough. While Legwold was languishing over at Rocky, no less.
The likely near term death of newspapers will come as no surprise to you or I. My guess, the DP doesn’t pay very well.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
It’s so depressing. The best-run, highest-paying, most beloved dailies in the country — the Times, the Post (which is trending downhill rapidly) and the St. Petersburg Times — are all run by families/foundations, rather than publicly traded companies. Hmmm.
The corporate hatchet-men from the Trib were the worst, the way they bought up high-quality regional newspapers and gleefully laid off anybody who knew anything. Denver was always a high-profile middle finger to economists blabbering about the virtues of competition. It was anomolous as a two-daily town for decades, but the choice was between a sledgehammer to the knees and food poisining. There was a clear winner, but both options were unavory.
by Chibronx on Aug 19, 2010 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
demise of print journalism
“Print is dead” – Dr. Egon Spengler (Harold Ramis, ghostbusters).
"the megalomaniac view of oneself as the Elect, wholly good, abominably persecuted, yet assured of ultimate triumph; the attribution of gigantic and demonic powers to the adversary; the refusal to accept the ineluctable limitations and imperfections of human existence, such as transience, dissention, conflict, fallibility whether intellectual or moral; the obsession with inerrable prophecies…systematized misinterpretations, always gross and often grotesque." – Norman Cohn - quoted in The Paranoid Style in American Politics
We have to remember that it may be a meanlingless game for the veterans but for the rookies it’s the biggest game of their career to date.
Any other position and going for that play like that would have been expected. Since his playing style is more like a RB/TE than a QB, we’ll have to get used to it.
re: White
If you have running backs injured now, why sign a guy who can’t play in the regular season for a month? I suspect the Broncos thought they could use White in the exhibition games, take a look and cut him or put him on the suspended list and have him available when the running backs, as they always do in Denver, go down.
I hadn’t thought of it but a suspended RB could be an asset, since he wouldn’t count against the 53 man roster until he’s off suspension..
"the megalomaniac view of oneself as the Elect, wholly good, abominably persecuted, yet assured of ultimate triumph; the attribution of gigantic and demonic powers to the adversary; the refusal to accept the ineluctable limitations and imperfections of human existence, such as transience, dissention, conflict, fallibility whether intellectual or moral; the obsession with inerrable prophecies…systematized misinterpretations, always gross and often grotesque." – Norman Cohn - cited in The Paranoid Style in American Politics
That is the reason I thought he fit the bill here
It would beat having to look for Tatum Bell in case of emergency.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
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Thanks for the news John!
Tired of hearing about Favre the drama has to end some day. Wondering when Thomas, White and Buckhalter will be back on the field. And I really respect Tony Dungy, and I agree with him about the language. However, that being said I don’t think it’s a battle I would’ve taken on in the press.
"I cannot give you a formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: Try to please everybody."
I used to respect Dungy
But this is the NFL not kindergarden and he’s full of self righteous BS.
by admill on Aug 19, 2010 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
He actually sounds a lot likeTebow
Do you feel the same way about him?
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Aug 19, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
You are overreacting
Dungy merely answered a question honestly. He siad he wouldn’t hire someone who cursed like Rex. What’s wrong with that? It certainly makes it unwatchable for my kids to watch Hard Knocks.
by ocbroncomaniac on Aug 19, 2010 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Here's my feeling on White
What Denver missed alot last year was that guy who could get the tough yard, LenDale is that type of back and he has proven he can be a workhorse in this league when his head is on straight. I think he knows this is his last chance to show he can get his act together and even if we have him for 12 games, I think it is a definative upgrade in our short yardage ability, now if he is still a mess, you cut him and loss some money but it’s not a huge blow. I think it is definately a good risk vs reward situation. With Westbrook, I think he is one hit from having his career ended and I don’t think you would want to invest in that type of risk, yes he is better all around back, but he is not a inside the tackles short yardage guy and I doubt he would last 12 games.
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I was impressed he came in without a weight problem....my big concern is how he tends to fumble at very crucial times.
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I agree
I think White brings some much needed power running…go ahead and hit him behind the line of scrimmage…he still has a good chance to get past the first guy and gain that yard or two.
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Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
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Paige smack down on the "can't score TD's" guy....
That was classic….I was reading that emailer’s question, and thinking….exactly how were we not scoring in Cincy????
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John Adams
Agreed.
Woody has done a bit of a 180 on the Broncos since right after the Jay Cutler trade.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
How much of a total supprise would it be if Moss
Was one of our starting outside linebackers this season.. One question I remember McGeorge asking earlier this year was about McDaniels and his ability to develop players.. If McD can get production out of Moss who up til now has been a colossal bust.. I would say McD has pretty much answered that question. Of course it should coincide with some of they guys from last years draft stepping up as well.. but getting Moss to starter quality is no mean feat.
by HorseStance on Aug 19, 2010 12:32 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Don't hold your breath
I’m just saying….
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Do you think that...
Champ might be on the trading block to the raven since he has no practiced the whole week?
Moreno 09 and beyond!!!
by BroncoKO on Aug 19, 2010 1:15 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Has nothing to do with that
The way he played at Cincy, he does not need to practice before game 1 – he is that good.
Probably not.
Unless Cox SERIOUSLY had the yips I don’t think Champ is on the block. I think it was RFGN or ‘Rookie First Game Nerves’ that made him look bad, but that is just me.
If Cox looks like he can game with the best of them and will be better than Champ or Revis in three years then maybe.
But probably not.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
All You Need
to know about the salacious (that’s your dollar word of the day) MSM is they glorify Tebow’s injury but fail to mention Jarvis Moss and Eric Decker’s return to practice. Eat crap losers (the MSM, not you guys)
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 19, 2010 2:20 PM MDT reply actions
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