Following Our Foes TC
by Doc Bear on Aug 2, 2010 3:55 PM MDT
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Although the Broncos loss of Moreno and Buckhalter caused most of us to hold our collective breath, Denver seems to have dodged a bullet. Moreno's injury is worse and at least 3 weeks is expected, while Buckhalter might be back in a week. Tyler Polumbus has given us reasons to hope for Clady's quick return, and training camp has started off with a bang!
I thought that it might be helpful to those of us who like to prepare for games against the foes Denver will meet first to keep an eye on some of them in training camp. This isn't intended as a long diatribe on all 16 games, but it seemed reasonable to know what our first few foes are showing: are they getting their players in camp? Anyone important (like Jared Gaither, starting RT for BAL) going down? Anyone new standing out? You've got questions, the Great and Powerful INT (and the not-so-much Doc Bear) has answers. I thought that I'd just start with our first 5 opponents, plus a short note on our division rivals.
Week 1 Opponent Jacksonville Jaguars
Young tight end Zach Miller (not the TE Zach Miller from OAK) missed OTAs this year with plantar fasciitis, an inflammation of the connective tissue on the bottom of the foot and a truly painful condition where fighting through the pain only assures the player of a longer, tougher stint of dealing with it. He seems better, and Jacksonville needs him. They have limited skill players at WR and while Miller's number of catches last year of 21 and zero starts in 14 games may not seem like much (and it's not), Miller is much faster than most TEs and can help out a passing offense that's struggling with a lack of better players. he proved that in last year's finale, with 8 catches and 69 yards with 2 TDs. WR Jarrett Dillard is close to a stress fracture in his foot and is currently sitting out, bu expects to practice next week.
JAX is also close to completing their contract with first pick, surprise choice Tyson Alualu, a player that I likes, but expected to go 1-2 rounds later. Perhaps the pros in Florida will be right on this one.
Week 2 Opponent Seattle Seahawks (Home)
FS rookie Earl Thomas stepped into the first team slot immediately upon the start of camp, starting opposite SS veteran Lawyer Milloy. Once-top LB Leroy Hill has found himself buried on the early depth chart behind Aaron Curry (no surprise), Loa Tatupu and David Hawthorne, making up a nice grouping for safeties and linebackers. Hill should find this as no surprise - he's been suspended for the first game of the season for violating the league substance abuse policy (I was hoping for the first two games, but it may not matter) and is up on charges stemming from his arrest last April in a domestic dispute case. His trial will be later this month.
Week 3 Opponent Indianapolis Colts (Home)
Both Robert Mathis and receiver Reggie Wayne ended their holdouts today and are at camp. Neither was happy with their salary issues, but both feel that working with the team is the best solution. Funny how that works.
But one of the best teams in the game finally is showing a weakness, even though it's not on their vaunted offense. Indy has signed very veteran CB DeShea Townsend, who spent 12 seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers. His signing shows how tough the market for good CBs is right now: Before his signing, the Colts only had three CBs who had ever appeared in an NFL game: Kelvin Hayden, Jerrod Powers and backup Jacob Lacey.
Week 4 Opponent Tennessee Titans (Away)
TSN Daily has reported that while it's unlikely that RB Chris Johnson will get the 358 carries tht he managed last year, this year they want to be more creative in getting him the ball. He may not get as many rushing yards, but they plan to get him more passing yards and to vary how his is used.
Courtland Finnegan is entrenched as one of the starting cornerbacks, and there will be a competition, reputed to be the roughest in camp, for the slot next to him. Ryan Mouton and Jason McCourty will be fighting for the second slot. Rookie Alterran Verner may be given a chance to see if he can knock one of them down the chart a slot or two. Veteran Ty Hill also wanted to get into the brawl, but injuries have slowed him and he suffered an exacerbation of one on Sunday. His odds are poor right now.
Week 5 Opponent Baltimore Ravens (Away)
Baltimore Ravens training camp has had even worse news than Denver did: in the first few days of camp, they have already lost 4 offensive tackles. Jared Gaither, the starting right tackle was experiencing a low back injury that he tried to fight through, but then went down with cramps. Many an athlete has found that when they are already having muscle spasms and try to be tough enough to fight through them, the muscles that balance those that are already injured can easily also slip out of balance. The team was sufficiently concerned that Gaither was sent for blood work Sunday night.
Michael Oher is now the starting LT, so our RDE team and Doom will have their hands full with him. He'll need to stay healthy there, too - his top backup, Tony Moll, also went down with an undisclosed injury, as did Stephan Rogers (ankle) and Oniel Cousins, who had just a throat problem. The Ravens, who will play against Denver on Week 5 (October 10) have already lost former Broncos CB Dominique Foxworth for the year. They are considering signing Frank Walker in his stead, at least to compete for a nickel or dime CB job. Foxworth never seemed to live up to his potential with Denver, but he was a heck of a nice guy, and I wish him well with his torn ACL recovery.
In the Division:
The Chargers got Ryan Matthews signed and into camp: they are counting on him for a lot of production this year. They signed also signed CB Donald Strickland in the offseason, and he looks to be their nickel back. Rookie Cam Thomas is getting some work against perennial Pro Bowler Kris Dielman and C Nick Hardwick, and learning how tough his new job is going to be. He's althletic, but his history of a lack of effort and focus will be challenged. Norv Turner questioned it this way, "But is he going to go knock people back and be a physical football player?"
AJ Smith tells the media that he's done talking about Marcus McNeill and Shawn Merriman, both missing from training camp. While McNeill insists that he will only return for the last 6 games, so as to not miss a year's record by league rules, Merriman's contract is a little different, so he's avoided making definitive statements.
In Oakland, a 'man bites dog' story has come out of training camp - apparently, star CB N. Asomugha accidently kicked receiver Louis in the head during practice on Friday, and Murphy is still out of practice. Oft-injured top WR Chad Schilens has been fighting with a sore left foot and the coaches are being very cautious in bringing him back.
In Kansas City, the Chiefs are enjoying seeing how many ways they can use draft pick Dexter McCluster, the smallest player on the team. He's been working with the wildcat formation and taking direct snaps as well as returning punts. The Chiefs are said to be cognizant of how carefully they will have to use him, given his size and the amount of pounding that he can reasonably be asked to take at his size and weight.
That's it for now - more updates as they become available and worthwhile. Go Broncos!
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Gaithner
has also been reported to have unexplained weight loss. I think I read that on PFT.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
maybe not
I couldn’t verify that
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
by 3nS on Aug 2, 2010 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Thats correct. Unexplained loss of 20 lbs from the start of off season.
You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
That guy
is HUGE. It must have caused a tremor when he went down.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Gaither back at TC on Monday
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2010/08/gaither_makes_surprise_return.html
But his weight is 311 instead of his normal 340. No explanation in this article as to why he is so much lighter.
Good pitching stops good hitting. And vice versa. Casey Stengel
Last year T.Haley B.Alberts drop 30 pounds
Sometimes it helps and sometimes it hurts a player.
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Yes
If Gaitner dropped it because he wanted to and worked at it, it’s probably a good thing (except for DL’s). But after the back spasms, they sent him to the hospital for blood tests, so who knows?
Good pitching stops good hitting. And vice versa. Casey Stengel
Yes you never know what an happen.
My son got accepted to NorthWest college,as part of the signing up, they all have to be tested for T.B. His came back positive, so yes live can throw you a curve ball once in awhile.
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He's doing ok.
They say everything looks good at this point and that they caught it early. He doesn’t show signs of T.B he just tested positive, so he’s on antibiotics for the next 9 months.
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Nice - I'm glad for you both
There are differing opinions on this, but I thought that i’d toss something out. There is an argument regarding taking probiotics during the time that you are taking antibiotics, otherwise called ABs. For what it’s worth. I tend to put my patients on them for the last 2 weeks of the ABs. The concern is that the ABs will kill most of the probiotics, which is true. However – those that survive are still effective in the gut, but they are also immune to the ABs used, so if you have to do an additional course of them, some will be still working to digest your food. Long term AB use is necessary in such a case, but you may get quicker recovery time in terms of digestion by using the probiotics near the end.
One other point – you can go to most ‘health food’ stores now and find the better probiotics in their own fridge. Check labels carefully – some have perhaps 6 million active cells, others have over 40 Billion. That’s quite a difference, and the difference in cost isn’t that much. It’s also worth it. At the very least, you’ll want to have your son do a course of probiotics at the end of the ABs so that his digestion comes back on track.
That’s all. You’ll get my bill in the mail :D…. I’m really glad that they caught that without symptoms – congratulations.
Gnothi Seauton
by Doc Bear on Aug 3, 2010 6:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
You might have to send it too him, he is taking Pre-med:P
Thanks for the advice.
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That's unusual
I’ve had a lot of experience treating back spasms – it was one of the dominant areas of treatment in our clinic side – and immediately sending someone with them for blood work means that they need to rule out a potentially serious problem, and quickly. The bloodwork side is more Ponderosa’s end, but I’ll follow this story pretty carefully. I wish him the best – they can be very painful.
Gnothi Seauton
That last was meant for Bradley - Danged threads ;-)
But if anyone hears more, would you mind touching base? This is a medically interesting case, and I’m hoping for the best for his health.
Gnothi Seauton
While i see the injuries to your players hurting some, you guys are lucky they weren't worse.
I’m sure you guys would agree that Moreno missing any time on the field at this time a year is not good, but he can always hit the play books.
Week 1 Opponent Jacksonville Jaguars: They seem like a team with no direction to me,and over the last few years have really done nothing to improve their QB situation which IMO is their down fall. I think Denver wins this game easy.
Week 2 Opponent Seattle Seahawks: I really not sure about these guys, although they have improved at some spots, I think Denver wins this game also.
Week 3 Opponent Indianapolis Colts: I think this team is going to be hurting on the defensive side of the ball this year, but somehow they still seem to win games, I think this game could go either way.
Week 4 Opponent Tennessee Titans: this game all depends on which V.Young shows up. They have a great running back, and very mobile QB that could cause problems for your “D”, I think the Titans win this game.
Week 5 Opponent Baltimore Ravens: IMO this team is one of the team to beat this year, so i have to go with them on this one also.
The Chiefs: We have a new toy in D.McCluster this year, but don’t let his size fool you, he will see more time on the field than most think he will.
Best case scenario 3-2, worst case scenario 2-3.
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realistic. altho me thinks you need to careful with the Dexter hope. If he can become a Harvin you’ll be lucky as heck. I just hope for your sake he’s not Glyn Milburn 2.0
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 2, 2010 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions
With all the good news coming from camp about him it's hard not to be excited.
I know there has been alot of talk about his size, and whether he can take a big hit. At this point no one knows, but he is stronger than people think, and hard to even touch in the open field. In camp when he has gotten the ball in the open field he scores, now that’s either him being good or our defense completely sucking:P
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Hehe
Yeah i give you that, and be happy:P
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I watch Milburn
set the record for most all purpose yards in a game. Denver still lost. Only regular season game I’ve ever been to.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
by 3nS on Aug 2, 2010 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I understand what your saying.
But he doesn’t have to even touch the ball to make a impact on offense. He has to be accounted for by a corner or a safety, thus opening up the field for one of our wideouts.
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Smile - it's good that he's exciting and I'm sure he will be
Keep something in mind, though. Every player has to be accounted for by the D on every play. The alternative to that is something called, I think, a touchdown ;-). I know what you’re saying, but all players have to be accounted for anyway. Just part of the game. Ignoring a guy because he hasn’t done anything is an invitation to a bad afternoon for you and a nice one for him.
As you’ve noticed, I tend to have a very literal turn of mind. Goes with a couple of decades in clinic – you can’t turn it off very easily, I’ve found.
Gnothi Seauton
But before this year we had no real threat playing at slot.
Before you could just put a LB on our slot guy and fell safe about it.
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Yeah Doc
Like not accounting for a running back against KC. Bad move.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
LOL
Yeah but somehow I don’t think that happens again:P
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I think you're putting it TOO literal, Doc.
Yes, every player has to be accounted for. Some players, however, require some extra attention. I see McCluster as a matchup problem, and because of that, instead of maybe having one defender in the zone watching him out of the corner of the eye, you may have two. Maybe they shade a little more towards where he’s running, opening holes for other receivers.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
I'm not that literal. Some folks are taller, that's all
Stolen from the original ‘Get Smart’…
But I don’t disagree with your comment. Some players will have to draw more attention, There’s no question of that. If McCluster does turn out to be a matchup problems, all the better for KC. It makes it much easier to flood a zone, for example.
At the same time, there’s a point to consider. When you have your corners or other defenders start to shade, unless it’s written into the defensive play, they’re going to get burned by someone else. Gap discipline was a problem at the end of last yeat, and it will be a major emphasis this year to learn how to overcome that tendency. Players like McCluster can challenge that tendency, but you really can’t let it affect you. The DC has to account for it, and the players need to follow his calls. Denver really ate dirt when they varied off of that in 2009, aftter the bye.
Gnothi Seauton
Completely agree
And I had a feeling you would respond with a similar comment, and that I wasn’t telling you anything you didn’t already know.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
Yes, we got to look at way too much of that last year
It’s up to Martindale, our DC, to design the schemes to contain any given player’s damage. When the players lose gap discipline, it’s a disaster. You develop the effect of a rub route without even having to design one. Very bad juju ;-)
Gnothi Seauton
Milburn was great
It was Elway that lost that game.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
by 3nS on Aug 2, 2010 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions
I seem to remember a couple other Ravens players coming down with injuries as well. Anquan Boldin was a great addition although he has to stay healthy to be a factor [obviously].
They have some youth that should be playing by the 5th week, of course they seem to make talent on the D side of things.
The Ravens also lost a couple of key rotation players on the D line
We wound up with Bannan, while Dwan Edwards failed his physicals with Denver (I know lots of people wondered why we passed on him – that was it) and Seattle, before settling in with Buffalo. I’d never count Baltimore out, but they have some issues to deal with this year, just like most folks. They will have to overcome them to be the kind of team they can be, but they have enough depth that it’s hard to ignore how good they can play.
Gnothi Seauton
Thanks, Doc Bear.
Look forward to your next update!
The possibility of going to Baltimore and not having to see Ed Reed or Foxy... that's good.
You always like to play against the best and beat the best, but I would be perfectly fine if we didn’t see Ed Reed. I’m sure Knowshon Moreno feels the same way. :p
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
No argument from the ursine end of the world ;-)
Ed Reed, Dwan Edwards, J. Bannan and Foxworth, looking for some payback are all people that i’d just as soon not have to face this early in the year.
Gnothi Seauton
Yeah, who would.
Now if the game was being played in week 10 the outcome could be different. By that time Orton should have the timing down with his new WR’s, and your o-line will be starting to gel together. IMO Denver should get those rookies in there as soon as possible, maybe even week#1. Man i wish we would have had 8 picks in the first 2 rounds over the last 2 years:P
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I'm a veterans guy myself
I like the two new picks a lot, but during the first part of the season, I’d rather have Royal, Gaffney, Lloyd (much as I hate to say it), McKinley and Stokes, if he makes the team, for Orton to depend on. Several things were changed from last season, predictably. One is that Royal has wanted to become the exclusive slot receiver and the team has agreed. He and Orton got in a lot of time in the offseason, and Royal should quickly become a serious threat (McDaniels also got into the discussion and he, too, wants to get Royal a lot more involved and to keep him at the slot). Gaffney already is a threat – I spent a couple of months watching film of him in 2008. He was playing behind Moss and Welker so his catches were not high numbers but he managed to come up with key plays repeatedly. Not that many catches, but timely and nearly mistake free. Brandon Lloyd has needed to mature as a person – he’s a great receiver who has never put his pieces together, mostly between his ears. He came from Chicago with Orton, though, so they have a lot of practice together and his vertical game catches have been impressive.
It’s great that McDaniels is opening up the playbook this year, but with the addition of McKinley, (last year’s 5th round pick, trained by Steve Spurrier) who has started camp on a very high note, for speed and increasing the vertical game, they can do quite well. Decker may be (and should be) a lot more NFL ready than Thomas, but what I’ve heard about Thomas from the OTAs and his practices so far, while his offense didn’t have him doing much, he’s bright and picks up quickly. You’re right – at about week 10, those two could create a whole new series of problems for opposing teams, but the veterans are a little underestimated, IMO. When you need to get off to a faster start, either the new kids will have picked up the game abnormally fast, or we’ll be mostly dependent on 4 of those 5 – I don’t see Stokley making the team this year, and I’m very sorry to say that. Every player loses to Father Time sooner or later.
Your point on the OL is well taken, though. Right now, Clady is still being mentioned by his docs as playing week 1 and perhaps before. He’s already walking without a limp, and that goes for Harris too (Harris, our RT, should be at camp and participating, if at a lower level to prevent flare-ups of the injury. If they make it back, that leaves possible problems (well, new players, anyway) at C and LG. Walton and Fry are fighting for C, Beadles and Seth Olsen are fighting for LG. If the tackles make it back, we’re half way home. It comes down to C and LG, and while that’s not exactly comforting yet, it’s a big improvement. We had a backup tackle,Polumbus, who didn’t make it as RT or LT. Too bad – nice guy, local kid, went to Colorado. Doesn’t matter when you’re looking more like a matador than a football player, though. You probably saw him pulling his cape back late last year.
Q – you had 5 picks in the first couple of rounds what, 3 years back? Was that just out of reach of redoing the team? Man, that has to hurt. Still – as you said, Dorsey is coming around (no matter what, they take about 3 years to mature in the game). Anyone else from that bunch? Didn’t you get him in 2008? Nice pickup, especially with Larry Johnson doing his ‘Hi, I’m a moron’ routine. Jones will be great as well, which will help out Cassel.
Last Question – who do you have playing NT this year? Anything exciting there?
Gnothi Seauton
by Doc Bear on Aug 2, 2010 8:09 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
IMO 2008 was the best draft we've had in awhile.
This is the kinda of debating i enjoy, with no negative comments just good conversation about each other teams.
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by CPT.Caveman on Aug 2, 2010 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was 2008, and the extra picks came from the J.Allen trade.
RD1 – G.Dorsey DE
RD1 – B.Alberts LT
RD2 – B.Flowers CB
RD3 – J.Charles RB
RD3 – B.Cottam TE (He will not play this year because of a neck injury)
RD3 – D.Morgan S
RD5 – B.Carr CB
The rest are not with the team now, Haley has gotten rid of alot of Herms guys especially from the 2 previous years.
Now to the dreaded NT question:P I’m still scratching my head on that one. I think our coaching staff had their eyes on two guys in this years draft Troup was one of them and i can’t remember the other. With the run on DT late in the first round i think they missed the guy they wanted. So instead we did nothing really to help, we brought in S.Smith and a couple of young guys to help with depth. But IMO that is our weakest spot coming into this year, and we couldn’t stop the run last year so how this helps is beyond me. Haley must have some fairy dust or something because i see the NT position as our weak link.
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I think...
It’s more of a depth thing. Edwards is still decent althougth at his age all those snaps he took really got to him. So add some younger guys Smith and Lokey then it will only help. Well, at least we in KC hopes it will help.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
Shaun Smith has shown some nastiness
But Ron Edwards has been running with the first team, with a lil Derek Lokey sprinkled in there. I expect some improvement from the NT spot, if only because we’ve got a couple more bodies to rotate in. Sometimes that’s all you need when the job description is to just stand your ground as a zero technique.
There should be some improvement, but we should still be looking to get better talent in there. I do think Shaun Smith will perform as well as any rookie you would thrown in.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
I’ve read that Cassel is not looking so good in KC. That he has not taken the next step and it’s just more so-so play from him.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
I haven't heard anything about him not looking good at all, but I'll check into it.
Mainly just hearing alot of good stuff about Berry, Arenas, and McCluster. I’ll get back to you on the Cassel stuff later on today.
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Peter King and a few other MSM guys think Jackson and McNeill will sit out the entire 2011 season because they players will NEVER NEVER EVER allow the owners to push back UFA from 4 years to 5 or more. In which case, they both have already accrued enough seasons to qualify for UFA next offseason.
I don’t think either one will show up for $225,000 (which would be there total pay for 6 regular season games). I got that figure by taking 6/16th of $600,000.
That is not even close to enough money to put your health on the line heading into UFA. If AJ Smith continues to be a cheap moron, I think SD is without their LT and #1 WR for the entire season. I love it.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
Wish our GM was as smart as SDs "cheap morom"
Smith has managed to put a more talented team on the field, than our GMs, over the past several years – and most believe (at least outside of MHR) that the Chargers will have a more talented team on the field this year, even without McNeil and Jackson.
We can only hope that our new management will be competitive with A. Smith going forward. That will not be easy.
Fair point
It’s normal to have a competitive perspective within your division. AJ can be incredibly brusque in public and doesn’t hold back about his players at times, but he’s assembled a team that has held the division for quite a while. He brought in English from NIU to replace Merriman, and it’s obvious that his long term plans don’t involve Merriman, who may or may not ever be the same player. I’d be more concerned with McNeill, but perhaps AJ sees something that the rest of us don’t. The same is true with Jackson, although his concerns are probably a bit more obvious and public – one more dumb incident and he’ll miss a season or worse. But SD is very good at having or getting players to replace the ones with troubles or contract issues, much as Belichick did and does in New England. He’ll be tough to beat twice a year. The good news is that all three other teams are stepping up in individual degrees, and that’s a very good thing. however, your point is well taken – this won’t be easy, and that’s for the best. Having easy division rivals may convince you that you’re better than you are. Perhaps part of that has led to SD’s early exits from playoffs. Oddly, our improvement may help them in some degree.
Gnothi Seauton
Riiiiiight
He said that last season leading up until his return in the 3rd(?) preseason game.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
Yeah really
When it’s Week 6 and he still isn’t in uniform, then I’ll believe he won’t play in 2010. I can see it now, he will rest his ankle and come back next year. I wonder what Vegas’ odds are for who retires first. Al Davis or Favre.
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Hey
I thought it was “the Great and Powerful Oz.”
Or “HT, the All-Seeing One.”
;-)
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