Horse Tracks - 8/24/10
by John Bena on Aug 24, 2010 3:45 AM MDT
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Overshadowed Orton looking sharp in preseason - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Every day, Denver Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton(notes) hums passes across the team’s practice fields with a precision he’s never quite had before. His receivers marvel that he is so accurate they don’t have to break stride or reach to catch the ball. They say he is as good as they have seen him. One, Brandon Lloyd(notes), says the ball "just sticks in your hands."
Broncos: Love and hate - NFL - CBSSports.com Football
Love/hate observations about the Denver Broncos after watching their preseason game against Detroit.
Denver Broncos' 53-man roster possibilities for the 2010 season | All Things Broncos
We're closing in on the first round of cuts (on Aug. 31), and we're less than two weeks away from the major cuts, when the team will pick its 53-man roster.
Broncos Mailbag: Running game will kick in -- if injuries allow - The Denver Post
I have heard of pass-oriented offenses. But pass-ONLY offenses? The Broncos will get creamed with this approach in the regular season. Where's the balanced attack? And is there a point to so few runs so far in the preseason?
Not playing? Broncos still "paying attention" - The Denver Post
A front-line player's preseason can often come down to a few quarters' worth of work on the field and several hours to kill on the sideline. Rank has its privileges.
Elway to join sports-radio fray; weighs in on Orton, Tebow - The Denver Post
"I'm happy for Kyle that he got an extension," Elway said. "He's been playing well, and he is a very good quarterback, so he deserves it. Plus, at the same time, there's not that pressure to play Tebow right away."
Broncos' punt returns look stronger, thanks to Cox - The Denver Post
All it took was one punt return Saturday night from rookie Perrish Cox, and Broncos coaches had seen enough.
Analysis: Injuries taking a hit at roster spots for Broncos - The Denver Post
The Broncos don't like to talk about injuries. But when the list of players not in uniform has 16 names on it — as the Broncos' did for this past weekend's preseason game against the Lions — it is a genuine concern for them.
Q&A: Will Brady Quinn become the forgotten QB? - The Denver Post
Do you think Brady Quinn is getting a fair deal with the Broncos? With the Browns, it seemed like neither he nor (Derek) Anderson were given the opportunity each needed to perform up to expectations. Now, Brady seems to be stuck between (Kyle) Orton, who just had a contract extension, and Tim Tebow, the "boy wonder" who has caught the head coach's fancy.
Maurice Clarett: Prime example of football's dark side - The Denver Post
Maurice Clarett's life is a cautionary tale about what's wrong with America's football machine. It's a system that promises riches and fame to poor, starry-eyed kids, and then spits those kids out when they screw up. For clueless kids like Clarett, it can be a life-breaker.
Kevin Kolb has had the look of a leader from the moment he joined the Philadelphia Eagles, and now after three years he's ready to prove it - ESPN
Winston Justice felt the intense pain as soon as his right index finger snapped during that January game in Dallas last season.
New York Giants QB Eli Manning says he'll play Saturday - ESPN New York
New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning said he will play Saturday against the Baltimore Ravens.
Washington Redskins' Mike Shanahan: Albert Haynesworth squabble is 'ridiculous' - ESPN
Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan met with Albert Haynesworth on Monday and kept the conversation to himself, saying it's "completely ridiculous" to keep talking about it publicly.
Source: New York Jets, Nick Mangold agree to new deal - ESPN New York
The New York Jets and All-Pro center Nick Mangold have agreed on a new seven-year deal worth a maximum of $55 million, a league source told ESPNNewYork.com Monday. The new contract could be signed as early as Tuesday.
Source: Minnesota Vikings plan to sign receiver Javon Walker - ESPN
The Minnesota Vikings are on the verge of reuniting two of their former division rivals from Green Bay.
Jim Brown not planning to attend Cleveland Browns ring of honor ceremony - ESPN
Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown does not plan to attend the Cleveland Browns' first-ever ring of honor ceremony at the team's home opener on Sept. 19, The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer reported.
St. Louis Rams' Sam Bradford to start Thursday with A.J. Feeley sitting - ESPN
The rookie from Oklahoma gets his first start with the St. Louis Rams this week by default, and with two preseason games to go he has a chance to seize the position that everybody knows will be his eventually.
2010 NFL training camps: Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant makes progress but won't play this week - ESPN Dallas
Dallas Cowboys rookie receiver Dez Bryant took significant strides Monday in his recovery from a right high-ankle sprain, but he's been ruled out of Saturday's preseason game against the Houston Texans.
Maurice Clarett asks judge to allow travel for UFL tryout - ESPN
Former Ohio State tailback Maurice Clarett has gotten back into the classroom. Now he wants to get back onto the football field.
Post game notes: Cards-Titans | National Football Post
Let’s run through some notes from Monday night’s Cardinals-Titans preseason game in Nashville…
2010 fantasy sleepers | National Football Post
The time has finally arrived to talk about this season’s crop of fantasy sleepers.
Jets place Ropati Pitoitua on injured reserve | National Football Post
The New York Jets made it official, placing backup defensive end Ropati Pitoitua on injured reserve.
Rex Ryan: 'I don't like Tom Brady' | National Football Post
In a predictable rebuttal, New York Jets coach Rex Ryan said today: "I don't like Tom Brady."
Texans sign Derrick Townsel | National Football Post
The Houston Texans have signed former Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Derrick Townsel, according to his agent, Harold Bicknell.
Pat White not going to play in third preseason game | National Football Post
Miami Dolphins coach Tony Sparano said he doesn't envision any playing time for fourth-string quarterback Pat White during the team's third preseason game against the Atlanta Falcons.
Chaz Schilens might undergo knee surgery | National Football Post
Oakland Raiders wide receivr Chaz Schilens might need to undergo arthroscopic knee surgery, according to coach Tom Cable.
Colts sign Allen Patrick, Glenn Sharpe | National Football Post
The Indianapolis Colts have signed running back Allen Patrick and defensive back Glenn Sharpe.
Depth chart shakeup coming in Tampa Bay? | National Football Post
Change could be afoot as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers gear up for their dress rehearsal for the regular season Saturday night when they play the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Patriots waive injured Weston, cut Johnson, re-sign Ventrone | National Football Post
Besides making it official by announcing the previously reported trade for offensive lineman Quinn Ojinnaka from the Atlanta Falcons in exchange for an undisclosed 2011 draft pick, the New England Patriots executed several other transactions.
Source: Jets on verge of $55 million deal with Nick Mangold | National Football Post
The New York Jets are on the verge of finalizing a seven-year, $55 million contract with All-Pro center Nick Mangold, an NFL source with knowledge of the situation confirmed tonight.
Sergio Kindle coming to Baltimore soon for medical exam | National Football Post
Baltimore Ravens injured rookie outside linebacker Sergio Kindle is scheduled to travel to Baltimore for a medical exam for his fractured skull at the beginning of September, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.
NFL.com news: Jackson could play in Week 4, or face six-game suspension
Disgruntled wide receiver Vincent Jackson could miss as few as three weeks or as many as six, depending on any potential trade.
NFL.com news: Giants' Ross, Barden, Johnson out with injuries
New York Giants cornerback Aaron Ross probably is going to be sidelined this week with inflammation in his right foot.
NFL.com news: Robinson hopes to make Falcons debut Friday
Cornerback Dunta Robinson hopes to make his preseason debut with the Atlanta Falcons this week.
Brad Childress has no regret after begging Brett Favre to return - Peter King - SI.com
Minnesota coach Brad Childress knew there would be coaches, players and media wasting him for fawning after Brett Favre the way he has the past couple of weeks. "If you have to beg Brett Favre to be a part of this team, then I've lost respect for this team,'' former Patriot Tedy Bruschi said on ESPN after the Vikings sent Childress (twice) and three players (once) on trips to Favre's living room to drag him back to football. I'd predict half the coaches in this league feel the same way as Bruschi -- and I talked with three of them myself -- but they just won't speak up to criticize one of their peers.
Tom Brady won't watch Hard Knocks because he hates Jets - NFL - SI.com
Tom Brady hates the New York Jets. Rex Ryan doesn't like the New England Patriots.
Panthers camp report: One lucky Fox, and lots of questions - NFL - CBSSports.com Football
This will be a strange season for the Carolina Panthers, win or lose.
Brett Favre-first philosophy will come back to bite Vikings - Don Banks - SI.com
Somewhere around the third or fourth time Brad Childress was asked Wednesday about his general level of discomfort in what it took to lure Brett Favre out of his Hattiesburg, Miss., barcalounger and back to Minnesota for another season, the Vikings head coach said a pretty revealing thing.
Reports on Revis: Wants $162 million; will sign this week - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
A couple of separate reports regarding the holdout of Darrelle Revis(notes) are making the rounds right now. Both are interesting. It seems unlikely that both are true.
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for getting HorseTracks out so early today (before 4 a.m. MT). Don’t think for a minute that you are unappreciated.
by opinion8r on Aug 24, 2010 5:39 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
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by orange&blue_aussie on Aug 24, 2010 6:21 AM MDT up reply actions
I only saw one other person besides myself
Wearing an Orton jersey during my visits to Training Camp. It was sad.
I have a feeling that will change after this season.
Thanks for the Tracks!!!
That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 24, 2010 6:54 AM MDT reply actions
I'll make KO a deal
If he stays healthy and rocks the house this year, I make #8 my next jersey.
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Aug 24, 2010 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
The only way I can see to get an authentic, orange Orton jersey, is to customize one on NFLshop…. I’ve been to the stadium, and even asked recently why there weren’t any available… The lady said it’s possible that he doesn’t authorize the orange… Which is ludicrous, but I suppose possible. So, if all else fails, I may just have to go the nflshop.com route.
That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 25, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Linsey Jones
Comparing her 53 man to the ones I read here.
She has Baraka Atkins and Lance Ball. Also, she keeps both Polumbus and Batiste. She cuts Baker. She keeps Stokley over Willis. Otherwise its pretty close.
I was wondering if after the 53 man roster is set then put Doom on PUP list. Can you bring him back? Kaptain help!!!
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
In order to be eligible to be placed on the inactive PUP list (the in-season list that doesn’t count against the 53-man roster), a player must start training camp on the inactive PUP list, and must not be removed from that list for the entirety of the preseason. I believe that Ryan Clady is the only Broncos player who is currently eligible to be placed on the inactive PUP list.
The Broncos must either carry Dumervil on the 53-man roster or place him on IR for the whole season. For players of lesser talent, a team might also choose to negotiate an injury settlement and release the player outright.
by sports_monkey on Aug 24, 2010 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Clady is on the Preseason PUP List, there is a regular season one as wel..
You can also put a player on the PUP list at the start of the season. They will not count against the 53 man roster for the first 6 games but they can’t be activated either. After that 6th week, the team must either decide to activate the player to the 53 man roster or they go on IR. It buys the team some time to make a decision.
Such a scenario happened with Rod Smith a few years, ago, he was then put on IR and his career was sadly, over.
Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!
by RockyMountainThunder on Aug 24, 2010 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions
My recollection may be incorrect, but I believe that Rod Smith spent that entire preseason on the active PUP list, owing to the hip surgery he had in the offseason prior to that year. At any rate, here is an article that explains the rules of the PUP list. The short of it is: if you don’t spend the entire preseason on the (active) PUP list, you’re not eligible for the (inactive) PUP list once the season starts.
by sports_monkey on Aug 24, 2010 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions
incorrect RMT — you have to start camp on PUP to go into the season on PUP.
by Todd Jewell on Aug 24, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh all these rules!
What’s an amateur commentator supposed to do. :)
Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!
by RockyMountainThunder on Aug 24, 2010 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions
According to scouts.com
- PUP list: Physically Unable to Perform –
this List designates players with serious injuries that will keep them from being able to start a season on the 53-man protected list but may be able to return to the roster during the regular season. The players must be placed on this roster at or before the league-wide 65-man summer roster cutdown to be eligible for this designation, and they must stay on this list for at least the first six weeks of the regular season. After this time teams have 3 weeks to evaluate such players after which each such player must be placed on the 53-man roster, season-ending Injured Reserve (IR) or waivers.
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
MY BAD
Those were the 06-07 rules. A player has to be on the PUP list at the beginning of training camp to be eligible for inactive PUP list now. So Doom is not eligible.
Now my question is, Can a person be moved from Non-football injury to the inactive PUP list?
"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown
Lindsey's Choices
I don’t see Baker or Willis getting cut and I would be surprised if both Polumbus and Batiste make the team. I think Seth Olsen sticks. But what do I know, I didn’t attend any training camps, I just read stuff. I also don’t see Buckhalter sticking with the team due to age and injuries. I am impressed with what he has done, but I expect he needs more treatment and reading about John Lynch’s similar injury and treatment leading finally to surgery I am guessing Buckhalter is too much risk to lose another good prospect by keeping him. I don’t know what the surprises will be, but I know there will be some surprises.
Agree with you. And we both watch stuff too
and watching Batiste and Polumbus in the last game was painful. Maybe she’s seen something we haven’t, in camp. Given OL depth is lacking in the league, I would expect one of those guys to stick however; but not both. And I agree Olsen is better. And Baker and Willis are def bubble players but would still be surprised to see at least Baker cut.
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Clady is eligible, but Doom is not
If the Broncos believe they can get enough play time out of Elvis this year, they will have to use a spot on the 53 man roster. He will most likely be placed on IR when the cuts begin.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
by KaptainKirk on Aug 24, 2010 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions
and Reid is
"the megalomaniac view of oneself as the Elect, wholly good, abominably persecuted, yet assured of ultimate triumph; the attribution of gigantic and demonic powers to the adversary; the refusal to accept the ineluctable limitations and imperfections of human existence, such as transience, dissention, conflict, fallibility whether intellectual or moral; the obsession with inerrable prophecies…systematized misinterpretations, always gross and often grotesque." – Norman Cohn - quoted in The Paranoid Style in American Politics
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Can I change my vote from yesterday? Thanks folks I love me some Horse Tracks
Tom Brady hates the New York Jets. Rex Ryan doesn't like the New England Patriots.
And I hate Osama Bin laden. Next?
You're either a fan or you're not.
Regarding the love/hate article on CBS Sports
DENVER — Love/hate observations about the Denver Broncos after watching their preseason game against Detroit
Under Love: • Champ Bailey. Each year, day after day, week after week, month after month, Bailey performs at a high level. No antics. No stupidity. No jerkiness. Just Pro Bowl level play. It’s a remarkable sight to see Bailey be so dominant after all these years in the NFL.
Talk about just mailing it in. What a Bush League article. First off it’s hard to love what you saw in Champ after watching the Detriot game when Champ sat that game out.
He then goes on to list Tebow under hate, again when Tebow didn’t play against Detroit. His reasoning, he’s already hurt and since they gave Orton an extension Tebow must suck.
As if that wasn’t bad enough, this “expert” goes on to say that the team has absolutely no idea what Moreno can do for them. Uhhh, yeah we do, we saw him all last year and news flash, he wasn’t horrible! He may also do what most young players do: improve!
If you’re getting paid to write about a topic you might want to become somewhat knowledgable about that topic. Just an idea.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by c_style on Aug 24, 2010 9:19 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
WOW
That’s pretty sad.
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Aug 24, 2010 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions
what did he think
about Ryan Clady’s performance against Suh? ; )
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Aug 24, 2010 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Rec'd!
If you’re getting paid to write about a topic you might want to become somewhat knowledgable about that topic.
But this is the MSM. They couldn’t let their general hatred of all things Broncos get in the way, could they?
by Gristle McThornbody on Aug 24, 2010 9:51 AM MDT reply actions
Okay I want to give some MAJOR PROPS
to whomever it was that was dishing out the total smackdown in the comment thread of the CBS Love/Hate story.
Broncos6482, reveal yourself! With chops like those, I KNOW you have to be an MHR member! LOL
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
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