Rookie Receivers: A Look at History
I have been very uneasy about going into the 2010 season with the receiver corp we currently have, but as I sought to rely on logic to guide my actions, I wanted to look to the past to see if my fears were unfounded. This is my research that I found and compiled, in the hopes of finding a conclusion.
As I went about doing this, I compiled a lot of data, and this is just a compact version, any longer might be too long, which I think it might already be. So as we head out, be patient, or if you are impatient, head to the final secion, and read the summery. For those of you who want the whole story, read on:
Rookie Receivers in the League as a Whole:
So to begin, I just wanted to look at rookie receivers as a body in the league. So I took all the numbers from the rookie receivers from the past decade and put them together to get some averages for each season, here they are:
|
Year |
Average Receptions |
Average Yards |
Yards/Rec |
Average Touchdowns |
|
2000 |
31.3 |
395.5 |
12.64 |
2.3 |
|
2001 |
33 |
480.4 |
14.56 |
2.3 |
|
2002 |
37.4 |
492.3 |
13.16 |
3.5 |
|
2003 |
34.3 |
491.3 |
14.32 |
3.3 |
|
2004 |
40.3 |
582.9 |
14.46 |
4.7 |
|
2005 |
31.2 |
417.4 |
13.38 |
3 |
|
2006 |
28.2 |
428.4 |
15.19 |
2.4 |
|
2007 |
34.7 |
404.3 |
11.65 |
2.3 |
|
2008 |
38 |
464.3 |
12.22 |
2.2 |
|
2009 |
48.2 |
678.3 |
14.07 |
4.7 |
Rookie Receivers Individually:
Here's a look at receivers from the past ten drafts, now I only listed those who caught at least one pass their rookie season or if they were a first round pick, otherwise this list would be much longer, and the shear volume of later round receivers would flood that data. In the yards column, any bold number is for the player who reached a 1,000 yards, in the touchdowns column, bold equals five or more. In the team column, if the starting quarterback was a Pro-Bowler that season, their team is in bold. This is quite a long table, but if you want to get a feel of how rookies usually do, it would be good to read this. I also apologize about the length again, but if I didn't put the table in, I would probably get called out, so for the sake of proof, here it is:
|
Name |
Pick |
Yards |
Touchdowns |
Team |
|
2000 |
||||
|
Peter Warrick |
4 |
592 |
4 |
Cin |
|
8 |
273 |
0 |
Pit |
|
|
10 |
276 |
3 |
Bal |
|
|
Sylvester Morris |
21 |
678 |
3 |
KC |
|
R.J. Soward |
29 |
154 |
1 |
JAX |
|
32 |
422 |
0 |
Cle |
|
|
Todd Pinkston |
36 |
181 |
0 |
Phi |
|
47 |
6 |
0 |
Oak |
|
|
78 |
370 |
1 |
NYJ |
|
|
80 |
713 |
6 |
Seattle |
|
|
2001 |
||||
|
9 |
536 |
1 |
Seattle |
|
|
15 |
741 |
4 |
Was |
|
|
16 |
40 |
0 |
NYJ |
|
|
Freddie Mitchell |
25 |
283 |
1 |
Phi |
|
30 |
345 |
0 |
Indy |
|
|
33 |
432 |
2 |
Cle |
|
|
Chad Ochocinco (Johnson) |
36 |
329 |
1 |
Cin |
|
52 |
883 |
7 |
Miami |
|
|
Steve L. Smith |
74 |
154 |
0 |
Car |
|
124 |
88 |
0 |
Ten |
|
|
204 |
228 |
0 |
Cin |
|
|
2002 |
||||
|
13 |
594 |
8 |
NOR |
|
|
Ashlie Lelie |
19 |
525 |
2 |
Den |
|
20 |
319 |
1 |
GB |
|
|
63 |
733 |
6 |
Dal |
|
|
2003 |
||||
|
Charles Rogers |
2 |
243 |
3 |
Det |
|
3 |
976 |
4 |
Houston |
|
|
17 |
438 |
1 |
Ari |
|
|
54 |
1377 |
8 |
Ari |
|
|
71 |
455 |
2 |
Min |
|
|
74 |
13 |
0 |
St. L |
|
|
2004 |
||||
|
3 |
780 |
8 |
Ari |
|
|
Roy Williams |
7 |
817 |
8 |
Det |
|
9 |
268 |
1 |
JAX |
|
|
13 |
843 |
9 |
Buf |
|
|
15 |
1193 |
7 |
TB |
|
|
29 |
119 |
0 |
Atl |
|
|
Rashaun Woods |
31 |
160 |
1 |
SF |
|
108 |
60 |
0 |
NYJ |
|
|
2005 |
||||
|
3 |
512 |
3 |
Cle |
|
|
7 |
372 |
2 |
Min |
|
|
Mike Williams |
10 |
350 |
1 |
Det |
|
21 |
432 |
5 |
JAX |
|
|
22 |
471 |
2 |
Bal |
|
|
27 |
446 |
3 |
Atl |
|
|
35 |
571 |
4 |
Phi |
|
|
61 |
59 |
0 |
SD |
|
|
2006 |
||||
|
25 |
824 |
2 |
Pit |
|
|
36 |
152 |
3 |
NE |
|
|
44 |
25 |
0 |
NYG |
|
|
52 |
632 |
3 |
GB |
|
|
119 |
309 |
2 |
Den |
|
|
252 |
1038 |
8 |
NOR |
|
|
2007 |
||||
|
2 |
756 |
4 |
Det |
|
|
Ted Ginn Jr. |
9 |
420 |
2 |
Miami |
|
23 |
995 |
5 |
KC |
|
|
27 |
Injuried |
Injuried |
NOR |
|
|
Craig Davis |
30 |
188 |
1 |
SD |
|
32 |
576 |
3 |
Indy |
|
|
Sidney Rice |
44 |
396 |
4 |
Min |
|
45 |
73 |
0 |
Car |
|
|
Steve Smith |
51 |
63 |
0 |
NYG |
|
73 |
149 |
0 |
Houston |
|
|
74 |
36 |
0 |
Oak |
|
|
76 |
6 |
0 |
SF |
|
|
78 |
676 |
2 |
GB |
|
|
Johnnie L. Higgins |
99 |
47 |
0 |
Oak |
|
142 |
92 |
0 |
Ari |
|
|
172 |
69 |
0 |
SD |
|
|
2008 |
||||
|
33 |
674 |
3 |
St. L |
|
|
34 |
120 |
0 |
Was |
|
|
36 |
366 |
2 |
GB |
|
|
41 |
87 |
2 |
Buf |
|
|
42 |
980 |
5 |
Den |
|
|
46 |
2 |
0 |
Cin |
|
|
49 |
912 |
2 |
Phi |
|
|
51 |
18 |
0 |
Was |
|
|
53 |
64 |
0 |
Pit |
|
|
Dexter Jackson |
58 |
97 |
0 |
Car |
|
81 |
90 |
0 |
Ari |
|
|
84 |
320 |
1 |
Atl |
|
|
95 |
26 |
0 |
NYG |
|
|
97 |
78 |
0 |
Cin |
|
|
128 |
172 |
1 |
St. L |
|
|
174 |
319 |
3 |
SF |
|
|
205 |
23 |
0 |
Indy |
|
|
226 |
226 |
2 |
Oak |
|
|
Walk-on |
554 |
1 |
Miami |
|
|
2009 |
||||
|
D. Heyward-Bey |
7 |
124 |
1 |
Oak |
|
10 |
625 |
2 |
SF |
|
|
19 |
762 |
4 |
Phi |
|
|
22 |
790 |
6 |
Min |
|
|
29 |
790 |
6 |
NYG |
|
|
30 |
701 |
3 |
Ten |
|
|
36 |
106 |
0 |
Cle |
|
|
M. Massaquoi |
50 |
624 |
3 |
Cle |
|
82 |
52 |
0 |
Det |
|
|
83 |
11 |
0 |
NE |
|
|
84 |
756 |
6 |
Pit |
|
|
91 |
175 |
0 |
Seattle |
|
|
107 |
453 |
1 |
Ari |
|
|
108 |
506 |
3 |
Miami |
|
|
124 |
521 |
4 |
Oak |
|
|
127 |
676 |
6 |
Indy |
|
|
140 |
527 |
5 |
Chi |
|
|
Julian Edelman |
232 |
359 |
1 |
NE |
A Few Thoughts and Facts:
- Rookies with Pro Bowl quarterbacks average 451.3 yards and 2.4 touchdowns and drafted around the 81 spot versus 369.1 yards, 2 touchdowns and taken 54th overall. So a great quarterback makes about 82.2 yards and .4 touchdowns difference with lower ranked players. Pro Bowl quarterbacks make their receivers either better, or at least make the numbers look better. Receivers without Pro Bowl quarterbacks, on average, do worse then those who do.
- Since this doesn't include players who never caught a pass their rookie season, the data leans more so to the side of rookie success, because about 30% of rookie receivers never take a snap, thus putting a lot more 0's in the number to off-set the data. Now I'm not ignoring those players, but for the sake of the study, I wanted to just narrow it down to those players who at least got onto the field.
- After reviews the tables and data, I found that while their has been an upward trend in receptions, yards per reception and total yards, if you look back, the only reason there is an upward trend was because it was climbing back to it's original mean where it was four or five seasons ago. Yards and receptions are at a decade high, but they are only slightly above what they were at in 2004. Yards per reception are actually at a median point, rather then at a high. Now the touchdown chart is the most interesting, because of the huge jump seen from 2008 to 2009. But compared to 2004, it isn't the highest this decade, and from what I can tell, seems more like a rare spike, similar to the one in 2004, rather then a new level of play that's to be expected.
- Last seasons rookies were some of the strongest in a long time, with six being selected in the first round. A class this strong hasn't been seen since 2004 and 2005, both seasons that were above average. Looking at this years receiving class, we aren't even close to as strong as those years. Also due to the fact that from the 1st two rounds only Dez Bryant went to a team with a Pro Bowl quarterback, I don't think this rookie class will do as well. In the 1st three rounds, only three went to Pro Bowl lead teams, Taylor Price to New England and Damian Williams to Tennessee, whose Vince Young was the second alternate and made it in due to Manning, Rivers and Brady all sitting out the Pro Bowl. Now if you look at those who had success, reaching 600+ yards, that leaves eight receivers, of those eight, five had Pro Bowl quarterbacks. Last season was quite a rare season, and isn't a new level of play to be expect, but rather it was great quarterbacks making receivers even better.
- My pick for the lead receiver this next season: Dez Bryant. He is playing for a very balanced offense lead by Tony Romo, and will likely be matched up against the second corner or even the nickel back, which will allow him even more success. Being surrounded by talent, and with a accurate, strong quarterback leading the way, I see Bryant putting up around to 800 yards and 5 touchdowns. Compared to Thomas and Tate, who are on teams that have a group of experienced players fighting for the #1 spot, but lacking a real #1 receiver, they will succeed, but not likely to the level of Bryant. Now I was a little surprised I chose Bryant, he's a talented guy, but there are other talented receivers out there, but I found that have a great team around you makes it much easier to succeed.
- I don't expect, nor do the trends show that there will be a large jump in rookie production next season, and actually as a league, I expect it to fall from it's high point last season. As an average for the past ten seasons, you get 35.7 receptions, 483.5 yards, 13.57 yards per reception and 3 touchdowns. I think we could expect numbers similar to those next season. Now I'm not falling back on the data, but we will likely not be leader by a great passer next season. Orton will play well, but his expected average next season isn't much higher then it was last season, whereas Bryant will have Romo, a player who will likely top 4300+ yards next season. So my prediction for Thomas is 600 yards and 4 touchdowns, give or take 50 yards and a touchdown. Decker I think will be more limited, 400 yards with 3 touchdowns, playing a bigger role in the red zone and on 3rd downs, similar to that of Stokley last season.
- So from what I've seen, do I think we are set because we have two rookies, no, but I am a bit more secure then I was before, knowing that they will still likely contribute to helping our passing game. I just don't see enough from our team to say the Thomas or Decker will come close to a 1,000 yards or more then 5 touchdowns, especially if Royal returns to form and Gaffney keeps the #1 spot.
So for those of you who lived through this, thank you and hope it was informative.
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There is a lot here, I’m going to rec it for shear data and work it must have taken, and then get back to you on what I think.
Amen to this......
especially if Royal returns to form and Gaffney keeps the #1 spot.
If this happens we won’t need to worry about our passing game at all.
"Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.''
-- John Wooden
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--John Elway
So will your rookie be playing at the #2 spot?
If Royal is playing at slot, which IMO he is more dangerous at.
Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
That is what I think.
Gaffney on one side, Royal in the slot, and Bey Bey on the other side.
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
Probably
But the preference from the staff is that each receiver can play any spot. I think Thomas’s traits make him ideal for that #2 guy, and he’ll likely learn one position better than the others to start. If he and Decker live up to potential, in a year you’ll be looking at them at the outside positions with Royal in the slot. My homeristic take is that it could be a scary sight for opposing defenses.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 4, 2010 5:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Nice job on the post...Highly rec'd.
I love stats and trying to see what there are saying.
The best 1st rd. pick to produce was Micheal Clayton for Tampa Bay…he had Brain Griese throwing him the ball. 80-1193(14.9)-7
The best 3rd rd. pick to produce was Mike Wallace for pittsburgh last year… he had Rothlesberger. 39-756(19.4)-6
Rec'd
Will sink my teeth into it later this evening… tks Max
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"I'd rather have a lot of talent and a little experience than a lot of experience and a little talent." John Wooden
Thanks for all the number crunching!!! BTW, how did you
account for the number of attempts thrown to a particular receiver per season? Seems like that may have gotten lost during the condensation of data into table format. It would be difficult to interpret, as a low number may have several different explanations; ie, he could have been the first man off the bench, so to speak, or maybe the team used more rushing plays/game than average (ala the Jets in the second half of last year), etc.
I didn't account for the players location on the depth chart
Or how the team was organized. That is important, but seeing as how this is for the league, rather then just a specific team, style of offenses and quality of receivers don’t come into play as much. This is just a look at how the receivers performed individually, but I included the team name, as well as what quality of quarterback they had so that you could look at that info as well. If you wanted to take a close look, you could compare the team stats, as well as other receivers on the team, but that would be too much data for one post, and would also add more elements to an equation that has too many pieces in it already.
As for attempts thrown too, I didn’t include that at all, in any form, the data I used was catches, yards, and touchdowns, and I was able to find the yards per catch, because of my other data. Hope that answers your questions.
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Very good info in here.
I can tell you spent a lot time and put a lot of effort into this, therefore I grant you this Rec. lol
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
Haha, I glad accept this rec, and I would like to thank...
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Good research, MD. Me thinks the rookie WRs will be productive enough to have us not miss BM.
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-- Shug Jordan
Hopefully....
DeMaryius Thomas has been working a lot against Champ, that can only help him become a better WR IMO.
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"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
Great job Maxwell!
I’d like to write these numbers down to see how close you come. Hopefully neither Decker nor Thomas get hurt and we can compare apples to apples.
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Exceptional post
I knew last year was a very good WR class, but wasnt aware just how good until I looedk at some of the stats. Thank you for all the research and time you put into this, it turned out to be one of the top posts of the offseason in my data loving opinion. I would like to point out that the 2011 WR class is rumored to be on par with the 2009 class. Any thoughts on that Max?
This off-season, I heard a lot about how it was the new bar for rookie receivers to tear up the league
But after doing this, it seems like it isn’t the norm, more like a once in five years spike, rather then any large trend. As for 2011, it’s tough to say, especially with a whole season to play, but if you look at how many receivers in this past draft had been injured yet were still drafted high, I think 2011 will most likely be better then this past one, but 2009 was one of the best, also because teams with great quarterbacks also got great receivers in the draft, something that doesn’t happen very often.
Thanks for the thoughts.
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It would be interesting to see...
…what the numbers break down to in terms of what round a receiver was picked in. Any thoughts?
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I did include the pick the player was chosen at in the table
I didn’t list them into rounds, but it would be pretty easy math.
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Great stuff, MD
Stats… Hey, where the hell is the Dude? I’m starved for data, here! :)
I’m hoping to see our rookies produce along your good cut-off line (500 yds/5td). If we get good production from Gaff and Royal to go along with that, we’ll be in pretty solid shape.
Regarding your predictions for Bryant this year, did you take into account the high ankle sprain he suffered in camp? He’s predicted to be out at least until the next-to-last preseason game, and possibly longer. And we’ve all witnessed how that injury’s effects can linger even after a player is cleared to be on the field. It could take him the first quarter of the season to get comfortable on the field. What he does have going for him is still that he’s not expected to come in and shoulder the burden on his own — and having Romo throwing the ball doesn’t really hurt much, either. It will be interesting to see how he does overall, but especially compared to Thomas. I’m sure we’re all pulling for DT to have the better stats. :)
I did take into account his sprain in the same way I took into account any lingering effects
From our guys injuries. Bryant is supposed to be back by pre-season, so he’ll still get plenty of time before the season starts. Sprains like his are varied depending on the person and the individual injury, so while I think it will linger, he’s a very hard worker, and I expect him to be back up to speed by week two at the latest, but I guess it really just depends, so I’m not 100% sure.
I do hope Thomas has better stats, but I just don’t think he’ll be ready this season to shoulder a bunch of catches each game.
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How Royal goes from that kind of rookie season as a WR to what happened last season is perplexing.
A genuine question — how did the coaching staff use him ‘wrong’ in 2009? Was it an issue of beating the jam, or what?
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From my understanding it was a number of things
Issues with tight coverage, new system and chemistry with Orton and McD. From what I hear this off-season, Royal has been working on those things, but I’m not 100% what happened, maybe Doc or John could give you more info.
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You covered it pretty well, Max
There were a lot of problems, some with Royal, some with just getting all the people on the same page. For example, we now know that Royal greatly desires to be the slot receiver and is not interested in being what are commonly called the #1 or #2 receivers (or X and Z, or whatever). He’s also going to diminish or stop doing returns. Royal was used all over the field, and didn’t handle it as well as we as fans had hoped. He also dropped a couple of very catchable balls, let the ball come into his body rather than reaching out and pulling it in, didn’t use his body to shield the catch and had trouble with press. I wrote an article on this and Eddie wrote me back, thanking me and saying that he wished that training camp would start the next day.
But in the offseason, all of Eddie’s plays were put in one folder on the computer system (I’m sure that they have a different word for it, but I’m lousy at computers and I’ll just use ‘folder’). McD studied them, and worked out why Eddie wasn’t more involved in the games. Orton and. Royal were often on different pages – Royal broke right when Orton expected him to break left, for example. It happened too much. Orton and Royal spent a lot of time working on routes, throwing and catching together, and that should help as well.
Being in the slot should diminish problems with press (so should another year of experience) since royal will be back behind the line when the snap occurs. Since Wes Welker was in the slot in NE, it’s not like McD hasn’t been around a slot guy who you want to get the ball to quite a lot. Eddie will have to work hard – after his ‘debut’ in OAK, Royal played very well, and last year, teams targeted him more, working to get him out of his game. it worked, and it can’t this year. The plan for this year is to create situations where opposing D’s can’t do that, and Royal will have the space to make his catches.
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Those numbers are higher than I would have expected
You say the list above includes only receivers who caught at least one pass or were first-round draft choices? Are they also the basis for your statistical results, or did you use all rookies, including those who didn’t catch a pass? If the latter are excluded the numbers will overstate the average rookie’s production.
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I did exclude players who didn't make a catch
Because the first time I did the data, it was so horrible low, it would be impossible to get a decent prediction. If I just wanted to take a look at rookies as a whole, without any restrictions, I would have included that data, but the average yards was like 29. I decided to exclude them from this study because in our case, our rookies are expected to catch at least one pass this season, or they were chosen in the first round. I realize that by not including the whole data, I don’t get the whole picture, but without removing that outlier section, it would make it very hard to predict how our rookies would do, especially Thomas. If we had a rookie planning on making the team from the 6th round, I’d probably include the who data, but because both of our rookies were either in the first round or are expected to get playing time game one, I removed that data to get a clearer picture.
Hope that helps.
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Nice job mate.
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this post is great
well done all around and its great that your answering everyone’s questions. You clearly though out what data you put in and left out and your reasoning seems pretty damn sound to me at least.
Two things that jumped out at me. First is how many guys did good year 1 and then fell off the cliff (look at the 04 guys, beyond Fitz, there is not an exceptional pro career from the draft. Williams just had a replacement drafted in the first round and Lee is a mid level starter for the most part. 2nd most of the first round guys didn’t have a great career by year 3 or 4. But it amazing how many of the 2-4th rounders outplayed long term the first round picks at WR. I hardly remember alot of the older first rounder names.
Another example that 2-4th round picks can be worth so much more then 1st beyond the hype of Mel Kiper or whoever.
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Thanks
I agree that having multiple mid-round receivers seems to be a better investment then a single 1st round pick. Now it would be up to a better person then me to find out the average worth of a 2nd or 3rd rounder compared to a 1st round receiver, but it would be interesting to see.
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