2010 Denver Broncos Training Camp: Intensity Increases As Temperatures Rise
The Broncos went through a long, hot workout on Tuesday morning under bright sunny skies, and as the temperature at Dove Valley rose, so did the intensity of the practice. Hard hitting, a bit of 'after-the-whistle-shenanigans' and plenty of ohh's and ahh's filled the skies. Yes, Broncos fans, Training Camp, for the first time since I arrived, has really begun.
Here's a breakdown of what I saw this morning. While there is plenty to work on, players and coaches alike are really starting to amp up the intensity and tempo of the workouts.
D.J. Williams missed his 2nd straight practice. As is customary, Coach McDaniels did not elaborate on why Williams, Kenny McKinley, Josh Barrett or Chris Baker missed the workout, but it is something to pay attention to.
My favorite drill of the workouts has quickly become the running backs attacking the blocking sled. This group, even without Knowshon Moreno and Correll Buckhalter, are a hard-hitting, aggressive bunch that is really looking to take ahold of the opportunity that is before them. Whether C-Buck and Knowshon are back in a week, 2 weeks, or a month, guys like Kolby Smith, Toney Baker and Lance Ball are really going after it. For some of them it could be their last best shot at a full-time gig in the NFL, either in Denver or elsewhere.
It is easy to see why Spencer Larsen is a popular choice to play fullback. He runs over and demolishes everything in his path. He is really becoming one of my favorite, unheralded Broncos.
Overall, the running backs continue to run hard every time they touch the ball, and they continue to block hard every time they don't. Someone is going to grab the bull by the horns in all of this, and the Broncos will be better for what can be considered a bad situation.
In my mind, this morning's workout was a tale of two halves. It was owned by the defense early on, with much of the focus on the short-yardage running game. This is where I want to pause for a moment. Much is being made of the O-Line struggles. It should, it is the biggest question surrounding the Broncos this Camp.
Keep in mind - and many of you are - that the Broncos made huge improvements to the defensive line. With the situation along the offensive front, the D-Line SHOULD BE dominating. Frankly, I'd be more concerned if the O-Line was winning the battles with all the money spent on defense. This will only help the youngsters get better as the dog-days of August trudge along. Sure, it is hard to watch at times, but the endgame should make it all worth it. Patience.
Demaryius Thomas had a couple drops today, something that has been a bit uncharacteristic. One Brady Quinn pass that sailed through his hands ended up being intercepted by Darcel McBath. The result for Thomas was a 'lap-of-shame'.
Running back Kolby Smith also endured a lap after fumbling a hand-off attempt from Tim Tebow. One thought I had when it happened was the difference for a running back between taking a hand-off from a right-handed QB and a left-handed one. No in-depth analysis, just curious.
Speaking of Smith, Elvis Dumervil lit him up during one running play about midway through practice. We didn't see much of Smith after that. Could have been by design, could have been something else.
For the first time this camp the team went through an 11X11 drill with very loud music playing in the background to simulate crowd noise. The beats had the defense grooving, on and off the field, but had little impact on the offense.
During 9x7 drills, it appeared to me that the 1st Team defense go the better of the 1st Team offense, while the opposite was true of the 2nd team units.
A few different configurations with the kick-off team. Even Cassius Vaughn got a shot returning kicks. Eddie Roya, however, showed that he is still silky-smooth in the return game drawing a loud cheer with a nice return to end one of the practice sessions.
It was about now that the offense started to make their move. Several solid plays, from Toney Baker and Jabar Gaffney, highlighted the 11X11 session that was pretty evenly matched.
Speaking of Gaffney, he made a nice play on a 40-yard TD pass from Kyle Orton over Champ Bailey during one of the timed sessions. Gaffney is going to have a huge season, I can feel it.
There was one heated moment, which I want to be sure not to overblown. During one play, Brady Quinn fumbled. In the ensuing scramble for the loose ball, Matthew Willis gave a pretty good shot to Alphonso Smith, who wasn't looking, sending him to the turf. Far from dirty, I guess the hit could be best described as 'slightly borderline' for Training Camp - unless, of course, the players were told it was full throttle. The hit didn't sit well with Elvis Dumervil, who is quickly becoming a vocal leader on the defense. He and Willis had some words before heads cooled. I assure you, it was nothing like what happened in Arizona Cardinals camp yesterday, just the heat of the day+heat of the practice+guys getting sick of being hot = a little boiling over. Still, good to see.
Finally, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention - at 10:31 AM mt, Tim Tebow threw his first jump pass. It was incomplete.
I want to make one more comment about Tebow. There has been plenty of comments about how Tebow should be covered He is, afterall, the 3rd string quarterback. Here's the problem. Tebow is not your average, everyday 3rd string quarterback. He is getting several more reps each practice than, say, Tom Brandstater did last year. Sure, some of that is because it was Kyle Orton's first year in the offense as well, but as many of you know Tebow is likely to see action on the field in some way, shape or form. He needs to be talked about, not becuase he is Tim Tebow, but because he will likely be part of the 45-man roster every week.
Overall it was a spirited workout. The players are really starting to get into it. It looked and sounded like football, and that my friends is AWESOME!
The afternoon practice today is schedule to be a walk-through. We'll see exactly what we can take from it. After 4 tough workouts, all in pads, the guys might need a bit of a breather.
GO BRONCOS!
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Actually, Tebow gets a lot of coverage
I wouldn’t mind a little less instead of more, myself. But you are doing a great job, so don’t change, John. I appreciate your reports very much.
Another person who attended camp said Orton guided a terrific two-minute drive. Do you have more on that?
BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!
Sounds like what I want to hear
Aside from Thomas’ drops. Uncharacteristic, for sure. He caught everything when I was there, so maybe it was just an off day. I see Matthew Willis making sure he is not left out of the practice report yet again. Starting to really like that guy. Gonna be tough to cut receivers this year.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
I agree
Willis has shown up to Camp with a hunger.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
I think it is his job to lose right now....
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Nice to see Doom taking care of his other players.
Also, I thought you went going to talk about Tebow? lol!!!
Guru
we gonna get a MHR radio at some point in the near future to discuss TC?
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Yes....
As soon as I get back.
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by Nick Cast on Aug 3, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
MHR radio??
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
yessir!
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Is it like a podcast that I can download?
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
John usually posts it for download shortly after it’s done. You can also listen in and chat live.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 3, 2010 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions
MHR Radio
is a live broadcast that John does. We are all in a chat room and we can ask questions. It’s typically around an hour. I’ve only been apart of 2 but they are so much fun. It is pretty much a full hour of bronco palooza. He had a special guest on the last show.
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Sounds like fun!
Quick question: Is it a voice chat? Because that would be pretty cool if it was.
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
no it's a video chat. We can all see Guru as he talks to us.
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lol thats what I meant, a video chat!
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
Yeah...
John’s mancave is Orange and is to be awed.
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And that didn't sound right.
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"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
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A question
Right after talking blocking sleds, you made this statement:
It is easy to see why Spencer Larsen is a popular choice to play Linebacker. He runs over and demolishes everything in his path. He is really becoming one of my favorite, unheralded Broncos
I’m just curious – I’ve heard that they have Spencer catching swing passes, carrying the ball and of course, blocking everything in his path that moves. Did they also let him play some linebacker today, or was the comment more regarding his FB play? Thanks
Gnothi Seauton
It is a typo. Thanks for picking it up. It should have said fullback.
It will in about 5 seconds.
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Do you think Stokely will make the team? Since he probably wouldn’t be play ST, I wonder if he could just become a coach instead? I think he would be a great WR coach if he wanted to do it.
If we keep 7 WR’s on the roster, who do you think they are? Would we even keep 7?
Decker, Gaffney, Lloyd, McKinley, Royal, Thomas, Willis
What about Akin Ayodele / Baraka Atkins, I haven’t heard much about them from camp?
Last year the Week 1 53 man roster had seven WRs.
Under Shanny in ’08, it was six. I think the team only dresses five on game day though, which explains why Lloyd and McKinley were on the 53 all year but Lloyd only dressed twice, while McKinley only dressed for eight games. Anyway, I too, am interested to see who John, or anyone else who has been at camp, would keep after seeing the first few workouts.
Based on the reports I’ve read, I would agree with your seven, with Stokely being gracefully let go early on in hopes he could latch on with another team before the end of camp. That would be harsh with his tough offseason, but this league is harsh. The other option is dropping McKinley to the PS. Since he only played in eight games last year, he should be eligible. If Willis plays as well in the PS games as it’s been reported he has in OTAs and camp thus far, it would be less likely for him to clear waivers than it would for McKinley to do so.
Regardless, it’s a great battle and I’m confident we’ll have a strong group going into the season.
Won't bow. Don't know how.
true, if you count Marshall, who didn't count yet because of suspension
I hear the 7 WR number a lot but it wasn’t technically true. Chad Jackson never made it to the 1st game, so we never had 7 WRs counting against the 53 man squad because suspended players don’t count.
You’ve qualified your comment, ButteBronco, so it appears that you may know that. I make a point of reminding people who didn’t know or have forgotten. The problem is that some think that 7 WRs is a realistic roster target based on their mis-impression of last year’s totals.
The team will keep seven receivers on the roster, though only six are currently active with the suspension of Brandon Marshall. When Marshall returns from the reserve/suspended list, the team will make another roster move.
no goats, no glory.
by Colinski on Aug 3, 2010 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I used 7 [and even qualified that] in my question to allow for one more possibility to be added.
If you reduce it to 6 [which I agree is most likely], I don’t know how you can include Stokley [just noticed I butchered his name] at all. He is great, but if you go with 6, you lose both McKinley and Lloyd. Lloyd, while he has made some great grabs, is very hit or miss. McKinley, well do you give up on a 5th round pick already? With the competition that Willis has been throwing around, unless he fades or gets injured, I can’t seem him missing the cut. Especially since they brought him up to the active squad last year.
I don’t imagine Stokley adding much on ST at this point in his career, something that Lloyd and McKinley can add value.
As much as I dislike the idea
I cant’ see them NOT keeping — 1) Thomas 2) Gaffney 3) Royal 4) Decker. And it becomes a competition for the final spots between: 5) Stokley 6) McKinley 7) Lloyd 8) Willis.
You may be right but Stokely may still have the edge because of his experience, but I don’t reject the idea that it might be his last year (or was). And Willis has really scrambled (along with Lloyd) what was a marginally more settled hierarchy.
no goats, no glory.
It should make for a difficult decision
Which is a good thing
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Isn't depth a wonderful problem to have to deal with?
by BroncosBassist on Aug 4, 2010 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
For a change?
Yes
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Top 4 are easily...bareing injury.
1) Gaffeny…looking for him to have a break out type of year.
2) Royal…playing the slot and some outside he will lead this team in catchs.
3) Thomas…makes a good contribution as the #2.
4) Decker…catches everything thrown to him, also looks like him and Quinn are getting along good.
5,6,and Mabye 7) Willis, Lloyd, Stockley, and McKinley…who will come to play? Willis has come to play and from what I hear is he is taking reps fromthe rooks right know. Lloyd…like Willis is having a good offseason and played well for us last year at the end. Stockley…would love to see him menter the young guys, and make the team. McKinley…needs to get his butt on the field if he wants to make the team.
Chris Baker
What is going on with Chris baker? Is he practicing? Is he hurt?
I have read some reports from TC that talk about Demayrius. They say his route running is “lazy” and he isn’t aggressive when the ball is in the air. He expects the ball to come to him instead of going to get it. What do you think guru?
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I will watch it tomorrow.
The workout today is just a walkthrough.
I’m not getting that impression, but I will report back.
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I'm dubious
Just because I know sometimes smooth can look like lazy when it’s really just smooth.
by tunesmith on Aug 3, 2010 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
How's the saying go...
“Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast”
by AllBroncsallday on Aug 4, 2010 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Robert Ayers
Is he looking like the starter opposite of Doom? How has he looked during TC? Is Decker getting any love? How has he been playing?
To answer your questions
Yes
Good
Yes
Better than Thomas
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Follow-up, if I may: Decker > Thomas at present, but where does he stack against the others? Has Willis been playing better (wouldn’t be surprising given the extra year in the system)? Has he been better than McKinnley? It’s probably hard to rank them that way, though.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 4, 2010 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Doom's Intensity and Leadership
I love the fact that Dumervil is really stepping up as a leader on the defense. Also love the fact that Orton is still the clearly above the other 2 quarterbacks. I’m getting pumped for this season!!!! Just need to remain healthy and we will be good.
Ernie
Agreed, Duke
Also love the fact that Orton is still the clearly above the other 2 quarterbacks
You know, last year, people really didn’t have a matrix for how to look at Orton at QB. he had a difficult and slower start in Chicago, and a lot of QBs have gone there to have their careers die. His first preseason game or two in Denver weren’t memorable, and Simms and Brandstater got different plays that let them do good things, leading some to erroneous conclusions.
The upshot was the cry of “Play (insert favorite name here)!” This year, even though some people won’t care for Orton, he’s really clearly above the other 2 QBs. I have yet to hear someone say differently, and John was kind enough this weekend to put an end to the ‘Orton doesn’t have a strong arm’ theory that’s been in the air since we brought him from Chicago. His leadership is better, he’s taking charge and Michael Lombardi’s May 26 article in the National Football Post which expressed interest in how positively the competition would affect Orton seems to be right on target. Lombardi felt that the competition would bring out the best in him or he wouldn’t be QB for long. One for Lombardi.
This is an interesting situation – much as many people expect Tebow to start late this season or early next, Orton is looking more and more like the QB that McDaniels envisioned when he brought him in. The competition is energizing him, and that’s not a knock on Tebow or Quinn. Orton is growing into his role, and that’s a good thing for the entire team.
Gnothi Seauton
by Doc Bear on Aug 3, 2010 6:21 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Nice recap.
One thought I had when it happened was the difference for a running back between taking a hand-off from a right-handed QB and a left-handed one. No in-depth analysis, just curious.
No difference. If the run is to the line’s right, the QB uses his left hand to hand-off. If it’s run left, the QB uses his right hand. This doesn’t change no matter what arm the QB throws with..
If this wasn’t the case, you’d see backhanded hand-offs, and you’d also see a lot of fumbles.
by Triston27 on Aug 3, 2010 3:58 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Wow Thanks
That was an excellent over view of today’s events.
by WYO(MF)BRONCOBOY on Aug 3, 2010 4:08 PM MDT reply actions
Thanks for the eyes-on reports, John!
The mental images from yourself and our guys at the TC are my lifeline right now. Looking forward to, and at the same time nervous, about the new season! PS: the videos are great!
Nice post, John.
I enjoyed your comments about Spencer Larson. Jim Taylor – FB of the 50-60’s Green Bay Packers – used to love to run over would-be tacklers. He would be proud.
Talking about Tebow and obsessing over him are two different things.
Bena, you talk about him.
ESPN and several at MHR have their Tebow tracker going full speed. It’s hysteria and it has not been earned (I highly doubt Tebow even likes it). It’s very offputting for those of us that have Tebow in proper prospective.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
by McGeorge on Aug 3, 2010 4:45 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Disagree about one thing
I think Tebow loves the obsessing stuff.
Good pitching stops good hitting. And vice versa. Casey Stengel
I think he’s learned to deal with it in a way that seems like he seeks it. I doubt he’d care if it all went away tomorrow and he could play in anonymity.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 3, 2010 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions
You may be right.
One way or another, it’s a heavy load for a 22 year old to carry.
Good pitching stops good hitting. And vice versa. Casey Stengel
He has handled it quite well for a young man
He has been all business, and the enthusiasm he has is saved for his work.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
I curious about Jammie Kirlew
I heard he’s been strong against the run. Would love to see him really step up and provide quality depth to the LB corp
I wonder if the reason for trading Hillis lies in the emergence of Larsen...
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by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 4, 2010 1:40 AM MDT reply actions
They're both blocking backs
and Larsen’s the better blocker, so you could say they were competing for the same roster spot and Larsen won. Branson’s emergence as H-back/fullback/Larsen’s backup may also have been a factor in making Hillis expendable.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Friction
I also can’t help but feel like there was something else to the whole Hillis thing, too. I’m wondering if he had trouble with the playbook or something.
by BroncosBassist on Aug 4, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
that seems most reasonable
I remember last training camp there was something about how Hillis mentioned he was being asked to do this move or that move, but he just loved running straight ahead and running over people so much… the article painted that positively, but I couldn’t help but think at the time, uh… nice job enjoying yourself, but maybe that’s not the point?
He also kept making mistakes when he got his chances
I had hoped that they’d get past that, but I’m not surprised that it didn’t work out, give those problems.
Gnothi Seauton
Larsen is catching balls out of the backfield
He’s also been taking carries, which is a huge change from 2 years ago when he wanted nothing to do with either receiving or toting the rock. Nice to see – he’s got the skill to be a heck of a football players, between STs and FB.
Gnothi Seauton

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