Broncos Vs Steelers Studs and Duds

There were definitly a lot more positives then negatives last night. It was a very good game for us. 1 last game before the real test begins.

Stokley is at the end of his NFL career, while Willis is at the beginning. You do the math on which guy offers more for the “future”.

I like Stokely just fine, but his time is over here and I expect we cut him in the next few days.

needs to make a decision Period! I am not an NFL coach, but I do coach basketball and football at our local school. One thing I stress to my players is that we have to make quick decisions. Right, Wrong, or indifferent, you will never get good at making quick decisions in a game if you don’t try to make quick decisions in a game! Quinn was extremely frustrating to watch because he just won’t make a decision. From my perspective, how the hell can I coach you through mistakes if you won’t make a decision and let it fly? Those kind of players are the hardest to coach because you never really find out what their weaknesses are. For all we know, he might be able to read a defense but you can’t tell because he won’t throw the damm ball. He might be able to throw well too but we don’t know because the passes he does get out are way late. I like Quinn’s athleticism but we never get to see it because he wants to pump fake 50 times and then take a sack. I want to like Quinn but he makes it harder and harder each game.

or keep someone else on the bubble who shows promise or might add veteran leadership (Willis, Stokely, for example).

Think he gets cut? Not sure he offers a ton as a 3rd qb and that roster spot sure would be valuable with some of the hard decisions coming up.

Brady certainly should be better. He is a 4th year QB. However, I don’t think it’s entirely fair to him. He is still learning our offense. Tom Brady said it takes 2-3 years to learn the offense totally. Orton struggled last year, although not as much as Quinn has.

I am not ready to give up on Quinn. I am giving up on him for our backup this year. That is now Tebow’s job.

However, next season I expect Quinn to be fully comfortable with the offense. My hope is that he performs well, gets great reviews, has a great showing in the pre season and we are able to trade him.

We can’t miss tackles. We just can’t. If you can touch a player, you should tackle him.

the 1st string defense has not stopped teams on 3rd down well. However, they are GREAT in the red zone. If we are able to have the best red zone unit in the league then we will win a ton of games. Right now we are a bend but don’t break defense. Hopefully it changes and we can be a You wish we would bend defense. We are still adjusting to playing without key players (Dawkins, Doom, Bailey)

One of his punts went for 60 yards and that was with no bounce. We have a great weapon in him.

He was solid, but his stats(1 tackle) weren’t anywhere near D.J’s (7 tackles).

I really like what I saw in White and Ball yesterday as well as the other players you mentioned. They certainly came to play.

Love Colquitt. Booming leg.

But at least he made up for it!

He did get beat that 1 play, but it happens. Even the great Champ Bailey gets beat. Big Ben has won 2 super bowls so it’s not surprising he is able to move the ball.

who really cares if a team can drive down the field and only score three points. It’s the points you give up that matter, all the other stats are for fantasy players. Does that mean I’m happy with our Defense, oh my no, they are as frustrating to watch as Quinn is with the ball in his hands. They really need to get a lot more three and outs, getting one would be a start. Somebody please make a tackle when you have a RB in your mits.

Really appreciate that!

Didn’t notice Thomas all that much, but that’s probably because I was too mesmerized by Joe Mays’ ability to kill whoever he runs into.

Too many times the running back went straight into the line, bounced off tackles and went to the outside. Champ hopefully can get those guys down before they get too much yardage, but then again if we would just make the tackle at the line of scrimmage then we wouldn’t need Champ.

I was not feeling confident after Detroit murdered our defense last week, but we were definitely better against the Steelers. We need to stop the run better, and there may be no better test then against the Vikings.

I really love Joe Mays. Him and Jason Hunter should make the team after last nights performances. When you consider Jason Hunter has spent 1 week in the 3-4, I am really impressed.

I think the problem is that our line isn’t good at picking up biltzes. I noticed that when there is just the D-line rushing, we have plenty of time, but when you throw in a blitz, they tend to get confused and mess up. I noticed it a couple times yesterday. I do like Stanley Daniels as a run blocking guard. He did quite well yesterday in that aspect.

Like Roy Munson?

I don’t recall Mays dropping into coverage, but that’s a good thing. That means that our coaching staff is using him in a very effective way. Short yardage and running situations are his specialty. He can also rush the QB. I see a lot of upside with Mays.

Phonz had a solid game, yet nothing spectacular. I hope he does something spectacular next week so that people will stop saying he will get cut.

Fargas was just released so, there you have it.

that spin move was a thing of BEAUTY. He totally set up that d-lineman and made him look silly. That move was almost the exact move he pulled on Oher during the Combine last year.

Phonz had two interference/contact calls (OK, one non-call, but clearly illegal) early. Lost track of him after that. He’s the biggest enigma on the team, and I don’t know what to think about his spot until cuts are announced.

I was going to mention it, but I’m a little late to this thread. The first one was a non-call but was very blatant. Phonz probably got credit for a “pass defended” when in reality he was draped all over the receiver’s back well before the ball got there. The second one was, in my opinion, a make-up call by the officials. They knew they blew the first one badly, so the second one was hardly even incidental contact, if there even was any contact at all. And as you wrote, I didn’t hear his name called after that one way or the other.

One of the things that is difficult in watching on TV instead of being at the game live, is that it is so hard to see player’s numbers from the camera angle. You seldom see the substitutions, because the director probably figures that would bore the audience so they cut to the booth or the sideline.

I always liked Goody. Good guy and very solid talent.

Phonz is getting better. Whether ppl see it or not, he has been progressing throughout the pre season. The only thing he is missing is a big play.

Love Mays and very intrigued by Hunter. Both played well and played very well together.

Our ST looked MUCH better Sunday then it has in a long time

He can fight off a blocker and has a great motor and has good speed. In addition, I thought Jason Hunter played phenomenally. Hunter was all over the place. He caused me to do a few double takes last night. His learning curve has been extraordinarily short and he’s a physical stud. Our LB depth just went from bad to great.

The team had a tough, nasty attitude that has rarely been seen out of a Broncos team the last few years. It was nice to see, especially against one of the perennial “bullies” of the NFL. It was everybody, but I particularly liked seeing it from the young guys on the line….

He is a very exciting player to watch on defense. I don’t think there has been another player that has made me stand up and say “OH” more then Mays (on the defensive side of the ball). I really like what he brings. I still can’t believe we got Mays for a player who hasn’t played a snap of football since 08. What a steal.

IMO – I don’t think Eddie had a sophomore slump. I also don’t subscribe to the idea that returning kicks beat him up or wore him out either. I just don’t think that he was used as a slot guy last year. He was in a #2 role for most of the year against bigger, more physical corners and because of his rookie year, he wasn’t surprising anyone. Stokes was our slot guy (when healthy) last year. I don’t think Eddie’s a #2 at all, but I do think he’s a slot guy (at least I hope he is). I can imagine that Eddie’s catch total will increase this year, but I’m not sure it’ll ever get into the 90s again. Eddie is a guy who must rely on his quickness and routerunning to get open and if Stokes is here and they split the slot spot, then that works for me, or if Stokes is gone, then Eddie is out Slot guy full time and that’s a better fit for him.

I think DT was drafted to be the #2 this year, as Gaff is clearly our #1. That makes me think Royal will be in the slot and Decker & Lloyd will get #4 reps. Denver goes 2, 3, 4, and 5 wide, so all of these guys will get used.

Just MO

I would probably use the word solid. He was very solid last night. He was dependable and getting open better then he had all pre season. He doesn’t have a big yac though. I would like to see that improve. We have enough possession receivers, Eddie needs to be the receiver that is capable of breaking tackles and being exciting. So far, i have not seen that. He looks like another solid possession receiver..

There may be some value to expanding this debate. I do not know of anyone available right now, but if Tom Brandstater comes available during the mandatory roster cuts I would be intrigued.

If this were possible, I would be all for eating Quinn’s salary if we couldn’t find a willing trading partner.

I don’t think it’s fair to say Quinn is a failed attempt at QB. Kyle Orton was terrible last pre season also. We have a VERY hard offense. For Quinn, the game is moving at the speed of light. For Orton, it’s all in slow motion. That is the difference. Give Quinn time. Next off season, after he gets a better grasp of the offense, he could very well be a capable back up QB. Maybe more. He just needs time to learn the system.

But I get what you’re saying. He looked great out there. He mightve shared a sack with Moss.

If I could slice it up even further I wouldve given Ayers 1/3, Moss 1/3 and Phonz a 1/3. Phonz made the play to force it out wide.

1st qtr was pretty vanilla as it has been. Around the end of the first and start of the second, they changed to mulitple looks and blitzes that they have not shown before. Suddenly they were tightening up on the runs and the pressure on the QB started to affect their passing both accuracy and who was open.

Both of the interceptions by Dixon were the direct result of the pressure he was starting to see on every play.

Martindaly has promised an attacking defense. He has not used it before this game and I will bet you dont see much of it still until we get to Jacksonville.

if I recorded the game, I would take on the task, but I was so focused on the game that I forgot to record it….:(

You will surely get it all year long.

We don’t want to be a bend don’t break defense. Ayers recently said that exact thing. Our only problem is missed tackles. If we can bring down the RB’s, we will be seeing plenty of 3 and outs. Our secondary looks pretty dang good. We just need to stop the run better.

It all comes down to missing way too many tackles.

but maybe someone else did. Did anyone notice our blitzers running right by the ball carriers?

i wouldnt understand what i was seeing…but you guys prolly do

He got held up at times, but he was far from a dud. He was in the back field and he was making plays. If Jarvis can take pressure off of Ayers so that Ayers gets the sacks then I will be extremely pleased with Moss. All we need is someone to take pressure away from Ayers and if yesterday is any indication, Moss is doing a fine job.

We need to shore up the run defense. We face great running backs all year long. If we can’t fix the run D, we will be in for a long year.

Ayers is REALLY coming into his own this off season. He definitely has me believing. Lets hope he keeps it up!

a new acquisition scores a TD and can’t wait to bust out the Mile High Salute? LenDale looked like he really loved his chance to do that. I think you’re dead on about why he’s on this team, and had the exact same thought you did at the time. He might just have a few more opportunities to salute this year.

How did it look? I wrote it pretty late so I know there are mistakes, but nothing too bad I hope!

I was very pleased with Daniels. The Daniels/Beadles combination was easily the best tandem on the left side we have seen this pre season. I expect both of them to make the team. Our G position is going to be set for a long time if they keep it up.

Great game yesterday. It was a TON of fun being in the thread with everyone. When Goodman got his pick. I posted something along the lines of “GOODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

and then there was nothing.

Silence.

I thought my internet died.

But then 5000 people all commented at the same time. It was great.

Gosh I love it here.

Glad you like it.

Yes i definitely noticed! A ton of us were in the threads were saying things like “RETURN OF THE MCD FIST PUMP!”

It was a fun moment.

glad you liked it.

I just never see Stokely contribute to runs, which most of the time his number isn’t even called for. I wish the guy the best, and I know he’s still got one or two more great years at his position, but he’s got to be with a team that has a specific need for his amazing skill set.

I can almost garuntee Shanahan will pull him to D.C. They need a guy like that who can pull defenders into the middle of the field and open up the deeper lanes for the other receivers on that team that otherwise wouldn’t be breaking away from the corners and safeties on their own.

and thanks Jack