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Bronco Players Meet the "Turk" On Roster Cut Day

It's cut down time in the NFL. Today, no later than 4:00 p.m. New York time (EDT), all 32 NFL Teams must reduce their rosters to a maximum of 75 players on the Active List. Throughout the League, 160 playbooks will be returned and lockers will be emptied as the "Turk" makes his annual visit. No, I'm not talking about the Famous Eighteenth-Century Chess Playing Machine. The Turk I refer to is the individual assigned by the organization to go to a player's room, knock on his door and utter those dreaded words: "The coach wants to see you--and bring your playbook." In short, the Turk is the NFL version of the Grim Reaper.

This first cut is meaningful because the players a team wants to sign to its practice squad are usually among these first cuts. If you already have determined that a player will not make your active roster but is a good candidate for the practice squad, you don't want him around for the last week of camp because you don't want to showcase him to other teams. By cutting a potential practice-squad player at this point, you are trying to hide the player while hoping another team does not add him to its active roster. Not only that, but making the moves between the third pre-season game and the next practice prevents affected players from suffering injuries while still on the roster, in which case the team could be responsible for all or part of the players' salaries.

A minor injury, even for a few days, might cost a player a spot on the regular season roster.

Star-divide

 "Bubble" or fringe players, will have to avoid the Turk for another week. 22 more players on each team, for a total of 864 men, will be subject to the unemployment line by 6:00 PM EDT on September 4th. However, there remains a margin of hope for a few of them. There will be 256 openings for the Practice Squads after the final cuts. Some may resurface on new teams, and still others may pursue their dream in a different league.

Players who are cut pack their belongings in garbage bags and head home to wait for a phone call from their Agent telling them they have another chance.

Former Chicago Bears kicker Robbie Gould was cut by the Patriots during the 2005 preseason and eventually was picked up in Chicago.

 "You hope you have enough game film to show teams you can play, either on their practice squad or even on their 53 man roster. You work out, you do the same things you do when you were there. You keep yourself in the best possible shape so you are ready to go if you get called."

So players who are cut need not despair after packing their belongings in garbage bags and heading home. In most cases, these players would be best advised to keep plugging away.

The process is not easy for the coach either. Players bust their butt to do everything they can do to make a position for themselves, and anyone would find it difficult to send a hard worker down the road. NFL coaches typically call cutdown day the worst day of the season.

"It’s tough," said former Chiefs and Jets coach Herm Edwards. "It’s really tough when you have to cut the veteran guy who has been in the league nine or 10 years. You’d like to cut those guys early because the likelihood of them getting picked up is greater. When you cut one of those guys late, it’s tough for them unless injuries happen."

Josh McDaniels has shown that consideration to players. One recent example is Kolby Smith. He was waived on August 4th and got picked up by the Jacksonville Jaguars last week.


Players who could "Meet the Turk" today that are Practice Squad eligible:
 
Nathan Overbay - He hasn't seen much action lately and when he has, didn't draw much notice. With the acquisition of Kory Sperry, Overbay's days as a Bronco are likely coming to a close.

Riar Geer - Fits the bill as a player the Broncos might want to stash away. Riar has seen time at the Fullback spot as well as making a few receptions during pre-season.

Kevin Alexander
, Jammie Kirlew and Worrell Williams - They may get another week to make the squad, but there are many Linebackers to weed through.

Kyle McCarthy - He is in a tough position. The Defensive Back position is loaded with depth and versatility. Kyle will most likely be a victim of the numbers game since the Safety position and the backups are pretty much set in stone.

Cassius Vaughn and Syd'Quan Thompson - These two speedsters have made noise in the Return Game and have a legitimate shot to win spots on the final roster. Thompson has the edge between the two, but they could both fall victim to the Turk too.

Alric Arnett
and Britt Davis - These two players will definitely be cut. The Bronco receiving corps are just too deep and appear to be one of the strengths on the team this year.

Bruce Hall - Should be among the cuts but may last the week due to the injuries at Running Back and considering Justin Fargas was cut yesterday.

Paul Duncan and Eric Olsen - Could be another two players the Broncos try to hide.

Jeff Stehle - The 6' 6" 310 lb. Defensive End is behind a rather large rotation. It's always a good idea to have options on the line though.

The best part for us fans, is that the depth of talent this year will make the Broncos coaching staff make some hard choices. Some of the players that get tapped by the Turk will end up playing on another team in the league.

There are less than two weeks until opening day.

Go Broncos!

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FYI

the Broncos are already under the limit of 75 (i think we’re at 74)
Still, I wouldn’t be too shocked to see some cuts today or soon afterwards

by black_knight101 on Aug 31, 2010 11:33 AM MDT reply actions  

True dat

We could cut people out of respect to have a possible chance with another team before last preseason game. We could also cut people to sign players other teams have cut and try to catch on here. Never know if you might find a diamond in the rough.

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Aug 31, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

I counted 73 also

Reid and McKinley don’t count towards the 75. When Reid is activated, someone will be moved.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Aug 31, 2010 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wait

Reid counts against the roster because he’s on the active PUP. When the season starts they can put him on the inactive PUP and he won’t count against the team but can’t play for 6 weeks.

"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown

by 3nS on Aug 31, 2010 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's correct

I got ahead of myself there. We all know that is going to happen.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Aug 31, 2010 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bad day for Broncos in Detroit

Jack Williams placed on PUP and Polumbus cut.

"Ben Roethlisburger is screwed up, he uses bathrooms for sex and golf courses for bathrooms." Unknown

by 3nS on Aug 31, 2010 12:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Wow Polumbus didn't last long there

They must not have liked what they saw (just like we didn’t) and want to give him a chance to latch on elsewhere.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Update on Polumbus
Adam_Schefter
  
Lions traded OT Tyler Polumbus to Seattle for what is thought to be a late-round pick in return.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jeez, couldn't we then have done that instead?

Not that anyone here thought he was worth anything in trade. Maybe it’s a conditional draft pick in return.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Squid

I think there’s no way they cut Syd’Quan. He’s just shown too much, they wouldn’t be able to get him on the practice squad. If it comes down to it, personally, I’d take him over Nate Jones and Alphonso Smith. Doubt the coaching staff sees it that way, but…..

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Aug 31, 2010 12:56 PM MDT reply actions  

If they cut Syd’Quan

they will not be able to (safely) show themselves in public in Denver

by warmick on Aug 31, 2010 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Let's not forget that we traded back into the 7th round to get him (and others).

Dude has performed and to cut him after showing he has what it takes would be foolish. If he had no earthly shot at the roster, than we wouldn’t have moved to take him.

by Jezru on Aug 31, 2010 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

One good game................

does not show us anything IMO. I like Squid and would like to keep him, however, Jack Williams looked great all preseason against 3rd and 4th stringers but then never really got it done against the ones in the regular season. I think Thompson has a lot of promise, I love his heart and guts, but he had ONE good game against inferior talent compared to NFL starters. Hope we can keep him but it wouldn’t be a heartbreaker if we can’t find a way to do it.

CHARACTER, INTELLIGENCE, and HARD WORK often beats TALENT but what happens when you load up on all 4???????????

by Broncofan on Aug 31, 2010 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

It wasn't just the int and punt return that was impressive

He has played well in coverage too. He had one play at the goal line where they tried to cross recievers, Squid read the play and deflecting the pass In-Com-Plete.

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Aug 31, 2010 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

He also...

played well against Detroit. He’s been consistantly noticable.

by Jezru on Aug 31, 2010 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not saying..................

i don’t want to keep Squid, I do. However, has he been consistently noticeable against the ones? He is a talented player and is making it hard on the coaches in choosing the DB’s but I also think we need to keep proper perspective about who he is doing it against. I’m just saying we need to try and keep him but I think some are so enamored they would damm near cut Champ to keep him from the way they sound. Keep him if we can, but we don’t necessarily need to break the bank to do it. I look forward to the day when we have so much talent that everyone is picking up our cuts. I think some of us are saying the same thing in different ways here but anyway GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!

CHARACTER, INTELLIGENCE, and HARD WORK often beats TALENT but what happens when you load up on all 4???????????

by Broncofan on Sep 1, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well said.

There’s also our need for that Rod Smith like Cinderella story that we all crave each year at this time… From jarious Jackson to darius watts to Tom brandstater, we all want that diamond in the rough… At a seventh round price.. ;)

J

by Jezru on Sep 1, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

They may not cut him

but he is a bubble player regardless of the 1 game. He wasn’t outstanding in Training Camp and kind of looked lost at times. Which is not unexpected in a rookie. I’ve been sharing some research with a friend and it is becoming clearer that there is a lot more to being an NFL Cornerback than mere talent. That could be a major reason why Andre’ Goodman will keep his starting spot this year. He is not the weak link that is becoming popular belief.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Aug 31, 2010 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lions just traded Polumbus

to Seattle for ‘what is thought to be a late-round pick’ according to Schefter.

Why didn’t the Broncos field calls on Polumbus? Frankly I’m shocked anybody would waste a pick on him, but it sucks the Lions get rewarded for the time we wasted on him.

by ELGee on Aug 31, 2010 1:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Maybe it's a timing thing?

Broncos needed to cut him when they did, had no offers or interest for him at the time, and the Lions just got lucky? Who knows. I still am predicting it’s a conditional draft pick based on whether he makes the team, etc.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe they tried that.

But nobody bit. We’ll never know.

You're either a fan or you're not.

by TheMastermind on Aug 31, 2010 2:32 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Vikings just lost another CB for awhile — how about Nate Jones for a late rounder?

by Todd Jewell on Aug 31, 2010 1:17 PM MDT reply actions  

I like this idea

Who did they lose?

Since we will be in Minnesota on Wednesday we could even give him a ride.
Okay that’s cold and not nice. I’d be okay if we kept Nate too but we do have good depth at CB now.

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Aug 31, 2010 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Actually, that is perfectly alright

if you consider “giving him a ride” meaning showcasing him in the game

by warmick on Aug 31, 2010 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like that idea...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Former Chicago Bears kicker Robbie Gould

Former?

There's a place out west where the Powder River rolls off the Bighorn Mountains. It's a land of red walls, blue sky, and clean air, where the eagle glides high above the canyons and makes its nest in the rocks that overlook the valleys where the sagebrush and cottonwoods grow. This is ranch country - has been for more than a hundred years.

Well things have changed some since the early days, but there's still a thread of character and tradition that runs true from one generation to the next. You can see it in the way folks out here set a horse; you can hear it in the way they talk. And when the work's all done, there's nothing they like better than to get together at the one room schoolhouse under the red wall for another down home, homegrown, Western Saturday night.

by wtnelson on Aug 31, 2010 1:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Doh!

Your killing me! The quote was from a 2005 article, so I assumed and forgot to fact check. My humble apologies. Lol

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Aug 31, 2010 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

No worries

Thought I may have missed something.

There's a place out west where the Powder River rolls off the Bighorn Mountains. It's a land of red walls, blue sky, and clean air, where the eagle glides high above the canyons and makes its nest in the rocks that overlook the valleys where the sagebrush and cottonwoods grow. This is ranch country - has been for more than a hundred years.

Well things have changed some since the early days, but there's still a thread of character and tradition that runs true from one generation to the next. You can see it in the way folks out here set a horse; you can hear it in the way they talk. And when the work's all done, there's nothing they like better than to get together at the one room schoolhouse under the red wall for another down home, homegrown, Western Saturday night.

by wtnelson on Sep 1, 2010 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well

let’s make sure we keep the right guys (i.e., Syd’Quan….)

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Aug 31, 2010 2:28 PM MDT reply actions  

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