Some Food For Thought - Jaguars 24 - Broncos 17

Thanks.

The fumble was exactly what I was talking about in the post game thread. If we scored there the whole game would have been a different story

They will get healthier and in game shape (clady)

How did he look? I taped the game since I wasn’t able to watch it so I will see it later.

Losing sucks, however when you help the other team it is worse. We need to play smart. I hope someday we figure out how to beat this team.

I am scared at how our secondary was rarely able to stop Garrard, not a good thing. One other thought, watched the Seattle/SF game, Seattle is better then most expect. Their front seven, whom most expected to be their weakness, contained Gore very, very well. Their LB’s appear to be back at peak form, and their lineman were able to make some key stops in the backfield. Also their secondary is filled with guys who can create turnovers. Singletary likes to run a safe passing game and Smith still threw two interceptions and they play physical ball, something I, or SF, wasn’t expecting. I’m not 100% they will just lay down for this next game.

And it seemed to be just that. Now, with an L, I think this means that our upcoming game against the Sehawks becomes a must win when you look at the next 4 games after them. Easier said then done as they rolled pass the 49ers.

Not the way you want to start off the year but it wasn’t a total disaster

The Broncos are now 0-6 all time in Florida during the month of September. Let’s wait til next week and see how we handle the red hot Seachickens

the Raiders STILL suck!

MJD is going to run 100 yards on most teams this year. He is also going to get TDs on most teams this year… Hence I always have him on my fantasy teams. I actually thought we contained him pretty well. This is truly a game of inches. A few inches to the left and Lloyd has a TD.. Different game. We will be fine this year.

Our ST had some major fiasco’s last season that were clearly a result of poor coaching. McD needs to hold his coaches to the same standards he holds his players. Prieffer hasn’t gotten the job done in an acceptable manner. His employment needs to be terminated and we need to bring in someone capable of producing a ST that is not always hindering the Broncos. Perhaps a ST that actually helps us win once in a while. Wouldn’t that be something?

If we didn’t have a top notch kicker and good punter, it would be even worse that it looks. Prieffer’s true ineptness is partially masked by the talents of his kickers.

Big ups to Orton and his WRs. They were very strong. Moreno played well IMO.

Big down to the Ryan Harris injury. It lost us this game as Beadles and Daniels were both quite awful. Beadles needs to move back inside, Daniels needs to move to inactive and Harris needs to give us our top tackles back again. It was foolish to play him and his starter buddies in the last preseason game. It cost us dearly today. Like the Phonz F-up, hopefully a lesson learned for McD.

I still say 8-8. I was expecting a win, but the outcome was in the balance. It was disappointing to see our team was not as well prepared with the two delay of games, 10 men on the field for the Jags 2nd TD and Rich Quinn often looking confused. I didn’t see the same mental errors from the Jags.

I thought our run defense did a good job until the fourth quarter. They did an extremely good job of shutting MJD down until…the fourth quarter. I would have to agree with your opinion about Jacksonville being a good running team; there’s no denying that they are a good rushing team, just look at those numbers. So, yeah, I think that the fact that they are good at running the ball coupled with the heat equals a tough game for the run defense. In fact, the heat is probably what made the run defense “collapse” in the fourth quarter.

3.6 ypc + losing the turnover battle = loss

The other stuff can be fixed.

Are TEs going to continue to murder us all season? How can we stop this from happening?

I had a workout in the garage for 1.5 hrs. and hoped I’d come back online cooled off and with a better perspective.

Hasn’t happened (yet, anyway).

This is one of those games, IMO, that you just don’t lose if you have playoff aspirations. You just don’t. And I really bristle at the thought that the Broncos possibly lost to a potential playoff team as you allege, kentuckybronco. Seriously? In the NFL I suppose anything is possible but if they’re in the playoffs I’ll be shocked.

Lindsay Jones reTweeted this after the game:

David Garrard’s 138.9 passer rating was his highest ever. previous high was 136.4 in 2006 against the Dolphins.

That’s despicable. No other way to put it. Our entire D made him look like an elite QB back there, which he is not. I thought the passing D was supposed to be the strength of that unit, possibly even the entire team? I don’t know what to think right now.

They sure as heck better hope they right the ship and win next week against Seattle because if not, the Colts, Titans, Ravens and Jets portion of the schedule could be very unpleasant to watch.

I know it’s a long year but wow, what an awful way to start. Somebody talk me off the ledge.

I was out of the house today (family outing) and wasn’t able to put the Old Sunday Ticket to work. Anyone know of a way to catch a replay of the game online?

I am so tired of starting off the season great then only realizing who we truly are late in the season and losing nearly every game. I’d much rather start off slow and heat up towards the end of the season, then have some of that momentum carry into the next season.

We lost to the Jags, in a close game. That’s who we are and I’m glad we arn’t going to get any false notions early on instead.

There are some bright things to look at but also some not so bright. Dumb moves I feel cost us the game in the end and that can be fixed. I know this isn’t a popular thing to say but I think Tebow should be starting reguardless of Orton’s contractual situation. We all know he’s the future, we know we don’t have a great football team, or anything worth losing, so why not give him the early start and lets see what we can do. Orton isn’t going to win us football games anymore than he’s going to lose them.

Good news from today is that the NFC West and Raiders look like dog crap. That is 6 future games right there.

It wasn’t only the fumble but the holding penalty on the run play then the sack that took Denver out of FG position. That was at least 6 if not 14 points to begin the game. That would have taken J’ville out of running and force them to pass more. The game was lost on mistakes, penalties, fumbles, defense not being ready at the snap of the ball, etc. and 2 pass plays that were barely out of bounds. Then the kickoff defense was atrocious. Denver could have kicked the ball out of bounds and come out ahead. agree with McG Priefer needs to go.

Games like today are the reason I hate how folks quote a QBs W-L record.

There is no such thing as a QB’s W-L record. Much to the chagrin of you Cutler haters.

I understand that he draws a lot of face mask penalties for a RB based on his unique physical stature. He’s listed at 5’7" but someone once said that would be him in high heels. Still no excuse for two penalties but he obviously got down low during the tackle.

In my view, Beadle’s inexperience cost 3 points. His holding turn a 1st and 10 on the 12 into a 3 and 11 on the 28. Not sure who it was who completely whiffed picking up the stunt blitz on the subsequent sack that took Denver out of FG range — my initial impression was Walton had slid over to help Beadles, and Kuper noticed the guy too late. But the damage was done by the penalty.

From there on the offense looked out of synch until the last drive of the half.

However, the Jags are picked to be the worst team in a tough division. The Broncos are generally considered the 2nd or 3rd best team in a weak division. As we all know, the predictions do not mean a thing once the season starts, but based on today I would say that those predictions look about right. I think this was two pretty mediocre teams today. In a few weeks, we will have a better sense of how good both teams are.

I am still on about five wins for the season, unfortunately. I had this one as a loss (strongly influenced by the Broncos record in Florida). I have the next one as a win, but I am a bit worried after Seattle’s blow out of the 49ers today.

Good points all around in the original article and the comments.

An observation, re: something you said almost in passing, first downs killed us. The Broncos had 21 2nd down and somethings. Only 3 of those were for 5 yards or less. Not what you want to see out a first down play.

One other observation that no-one seems to have mentioned: Orton had runs of 5 and 7 yards.

Thes are the biggest two things that absolutely killed us IMO. 3 of ten on third down won’t win many games for ANY team and our special team play was horrific. Stupid penalties and turnovers were also major contributors to the loss.
There are bright spots for the future, but without the dumb stuff, this game would have gone in the win column.
Sure wouldn’t want to be Richard Quinn tomorrow!