Upon Further Review - Broncos vs. Seahawks - 2010 Week Two
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***Upon Further Review is brought to you by yours truly and with the assistance of others. At this point in time, it is with the help of Pablo (broncofan91).He was part of this experiment last year and I am glad to have him aboard. As the season progresses, there will be others adding their input, and you will see them listed here. ***
The Seattle Seahawks come to town on Sunday, for the Broncos 2010 Home opener. The Seahawks made a season-opening statement by overpowering a heavily favored 49er team 31-6 in Week one. The Niners were the trendy pick to win the NFC West. After a slow start by the offense, Seattle exploded for 31 unanswered points and sent a message for what’s ahead. With the exception of quarterback Matt Hasselbeck and a few other holdovers, the Seahawks will be trotting out a starting line-up that bears little resemblance to the group that kicked off the 2009 season. But change is to be expected with a new regime. Denver fans know all about personnel turnover, especially with a first year head coach. Both teams have overhauled more than half of their rosters, hopefully for the better. So let's see what's in store for the Broncos in Week Two.
Weather and Conditions
Sunday's contest at INVESCO should have good weather for the game. The current forecast for the 2:05 MDT contest is:
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THE INJURY FACTOR
The Seahawks will be without the services of their 1st round pick Russell Okung (high ankle sprain), who is slated to be Seattle's starting Left Tackle. His understudy, Chester Pitts is recovering from microfracture knee surgery and was inactive for last Sunday's game against San Francisco. That leaves former Bronco Tyler Polumbus as the starter at Left Tackle. Polumbus made his first career start last week against the San Francisco 49ers. Right Guard Max Unger is done for the season after being placed on injured reserve with a left toe injury. We could see another former Bronco in Ben Hamilton as his replacement. Left Guard Mike Gibson, who came out in the first half Sunday with a strained lower back, is expected to be ready for Denver. Linebacker David Hawthorne (back) also should be ready to play on Sunday. The Seahawks brought back offensive lineman Mansfield Wrotto to help their decimated O-Line.
OFFENSE
The Seahawks have struggled with their running game. After averaging 3.6 yards a carry in exhibition play, they were held to a paltry 77 yards on the ground against the Niners. Starter Justin Forsett was the team's leading rusher with 43 yards, including a long of 32 yards.
The performance of their offensive line will continue to be an issue for Seattle until they can regain their health and adjust to the loss of O-Line coach Alex Gibbs. Tyler Polumbus filled in nicely at Left Tackle last week. He only gave up one sack in his first start as a Seahawk. Other than that bright spot, their pass blocking was very weak. Chester Pitts continues to rehab, but Polumbus will start against the Broncos on Sunday. Recent addition Stacy Andrews (from Philadelphia) will replace Max Unger at Right Guard, even though the team sees him as more of a right tackle. Seattle also could move right tackle Sean Locklear to guard.
Pablo (Broncofan91) had this to say about the O-Line:
They were getting pushed around quite a bit. The left side of the line looked especially bad. Old friend Tyler Polumbus is the starting left tackle due to injur….okay guys settle down please. Mr. Ayers stop giggling and pay attention. Anyway, their run blocking was even worse. They got pushed back very often and defensive players were penetrating the backfield on almost every run play.
The quarterback play had a rough start against San Francisco. Matt Hasselbeck threw an interception on the first play of the game. Niner CB Nate Clement jumped a route on Tight End John Carlson. After that, Hasselbeck settled down and had a great game. He got into a rhythm offensively, finishing 18-for-23 for 170 yards and two touchdowns with a 108.3 passer rating. Despite being pressured for much of the game and having no run support, he was accurate and quick to get rid of the ball. He also had a rushing TD so he’s not afraid to run if necessary. One thing I noticed was that there were barely any deep throws. That shows a fault in the the play of the offensive line. Hasselbeck's favorite target was Mike Williams, who finished with four catches for 64 yards, including a long of 35 yards. Hasselbeck got even with Clements later in the game. He noticed the San Francisco Defensive Backs trying to anticipate too much and burned them twice with double-moves for 2 touchdowns. Late in the first half, Williams used a double move to get open against Clements for a 35-yard gain to the 49ers’ 1-yard line. Hasselbeck scored on the next play to give the Seahawks a 7-6 lead that would only mushroom as the game progressed. On the Seahawks’ next possession, set up by Jordan Babineaux intercepting an Alex Smith pass and returning it 20 yards to the 49ers’ 13, Deon Butler used another double move to get behind Clements for a 13-yard touchdown.
WR Mike Williams dropped two passes, but otherwise played well against San Francisco. And with T.J. Houshmandzadeh in Baltimore, Williams provides Seattle with a big-play threat they've been lacking. TE John Carlson continues to find his way in Seattle's new offensive scheme. He finished with just three catches for 36 yards. The third-year tight end was supposed to be more of a focal point of the offense this season, but with pass protection issues the Seahawks have had trouble getting him out into the routes.
Pablo adds this:
RB: Not much to say about these except speed, speed, and more speed. Justin Forsett is the starter and gets the majority of the reps. He’s not a very physical runner but he hits the hole with tons of speed so discipline will be the word of the day for our defense. However, his real strength is in the passing game. His speed is a great asset in space. Julius Jones backs him up. Not a very effective runner but he is capable of breaking off a big run. Leon Washington didn’t get many reps but he’s probably the fastest of the three.
WR: A decent group of receivers but nothing spectacular. Second year man Deon Butler is the speedy one. Hex runs good routs and has good hands. Probably the best of the three starters. Next we have Deon branch. He has definitely lost a step but he’s still a savvy vet who can hurt you if you’re not careful. Finally, former Trojan Mike Williams. He is a beast. His build reminds me a lot of Brandon Marshall. He had a good game against San Francisco with a very nice catch and run TD. He also dropped a first down pass.
TE: John Carlson is, in my opinion, the best young catching tight-end in the league. He also happens to be Matt Hasselbeck’s favorite target. He is the one we have to focus on and stop if we want to win on Sunday.
DEFENSE
For all the hype surrounding Pete Carroll’s successful return to the NFL, one aspect got overshadowed on Sunday: Seattle’s defense. The front seven played fairly well, squelching Niners running back Frank Gore. Gore has tore up Seattle in the past, averaging almost 150 yards rushing per game against them since the 2006. The Seahawk "D" held him to a scant 38 yards on 17 carries. This was the same player who twice in his career has rushed for more than 200 yards against Seattle. They did a nice job of gap control against Gore, holding him to a 2.2 yards-per-carry average.
The 49ers had a total of 17 red-zone plays on their first three drives and managed just two field goals. The Seahawks clogged run lanes with just their base defense and forced San Francisco to face third-and-5 or longer 11 times. The 49ers finished just 1 for 15 on third-down conversions.
Seattle’s run defense, and specifically its defensive line, was a major question entering the season. Against the 49’s, the line looked really good. They completely dominated the run game. The Seahawks had shifted Red Bryant from tackle to defensive end in the hopes of being more stout at the line of scrimmage with Bryant, and defensive tackles Brandon Mebane and Colin Cole plugging the run lanes. The best way to describe them would be a wall. Offensive linemen were being pushed back three yards. Pete Carroll raved about Cole’s effort and had almost as much praise for newcomer Junior Siavii. Cole had an impressive four tackles in about 27 plays for the Seahawks. Siavii, signed only a week ago, played extensively and finished with two stops and a tackle for loss. Rookie DE Dexter Davis continues to earn more playing time for the Seahawks. The seventh-round choice out of Arizona State finished the pre-season with two sacks. He earned another sack against San Francisco, and has become a regular part of Seattle's third-down package defensively.
Seattle did a good job of occupying linemen, allowing the linebackers to make clean tackles. The pass-rush was decent but not great.
One of the most improved areas of Seattle's defense, the Seahawks Pass Defense finished with two interceptions—both on third downs—including a 32-yard interception return for a touchdown by cornerback Marcus Trufant. 49ers quarterback Alex Smith was sacked twice and suffered eleven quarterback hits, with Chris Clemons (four) and Bryant (three) leading the charge.
LB Lofa Tatupu, who ran Carroll's defense at USC, said that the defensive fronts, which now alternate far more between 4-3 and 5-2 than they have for the Seahawks, rely on the concept of gap integrity and the ability to see that through by recruiting larger players in the front seven. Tatupu led the team with eight tackles in his first regular-season action since tearing pectoral muscle last October. Aaron Curry finished with three tackles and two quarterback hurries, which was solid. However, the team expects the No. 4 overall draft pick from 2009 to have more impact on the game. Leroy Hill, suspended for the first game because of a violation of the league's substance abuse policy, will play this week, but won't start. The Seahawks released cornerback Kennard Cox to make room for him. Because of that, Seattle's defense might only get better this week heading into Denver.
The Seahawk Defense is much improved with Lofa healthy again. He can do it all. Aaron Curry is mostly used mostly for run support and rushing the passer. He is very good at both. This group is very good when blitzing so our O-line better bring their A game.
CB Marcus Trufant continues to show that he has bounced back from a disappointing 2009 campaign, in which led the league in pass interference penalties with seven. He also had the Pick Six. On the other side, Kelly Jennings had a solid game and made a couple of nice, open-field tackles against San Francisco. Jennings' improved play is one of the reasons Seattle felt comfortable trading cornerback Josh Wilson to Baltimore.
Seattle's Defensive backfield was not too impressive in last week's game. Their coverage was very inconsistent. Marcus Trufant had 2 interceptions but those were unforced errors by Alex Smith. Earl Thomas is probably their best player of the back four. He plays the run very well and hits like a hammer.
SPECIAL TEAMS
Both the Kickoff and the Punt coverage units for the Seahawks were great against the 49ers. Former Jet Leon Washington is Seattle’s new return man and he’s still got it. Washington finished with two kick returns for 58 yards, including a long of 41 yards in his first regular-season action since suffering a compound fracture that ended his season last October against Oakland. Justin Forsett returned 3 punts for 17 yards. Forsett is a good returner but the blocking was sub-par. Punter Jon Ryan averaged 42 yards and placed one punt inside the 20. Kicker Olindo Mare made his only field goal, a 35 yarder and all four extra points, along with booting two kickoffs into the end zone for touchbacks.
WHAT TO WATCH
Run Defense - The Seahawks running game is suffering because of the O-Line shuffling. Justin Forsett is a small back that can get lost behind the bigger linemen and is quick enough to exploit a hole, but someone has to open the holes.
Special Teams - This is an area the Broncos can take advantage of. The Seattle return game still needs to find a productive groove following the infusion of so many new players last week.
Third down Defense - The Seahawk offense converted five of 11 – or 45% against the Niners. If that number stays up, it will mean trouble for the Broncos.
SERIES HISTORY
The Seahawks need to continue their first-rate play on the road. Seattle was 1-7 in 2009, with all seven losses coming by double-digits. They were outscored, 260-117 away from Qwest Field last season. Their only win on the road came at 1-15 St. Louis.
The Broncos own an NFL-best 23-3 record in home openers since 1984, as the club has won its last 10 such games to tie for the third-longest home opener winning streak in the NFL since the 1970 merger. All-time, Denver is 37-12-1 (.750) in home openers, a mark that includes a 14-6 record in home openers that are not its first overall game of the season.
This is the 53rd meeting between the Broncos and Seahawks in the regular season with the Broncos owning a 31-18 advantage, including a 20-5 record at home. But the Seahawks won the last meeting – 23-20 at Denver in 2006. Denver’s .635 overall winning percentage against Seattle represents its fourth-best record against an opponent in regular season and postseason play combined (min. 10 games played). The Broncos won the previous two meetings, a 31-9 road triumph in 2002 and a 20-7 home contest against their then-AFC West rival in 2001. Seattle, which played the Broncos twice a year as a member of the AFC West from 1978 through 2001, had a six-game losing streak in Denver prior to its 2006 win there.
In addition to the regular season series, the teams have met once in the postseason, with the Seahawks handing the Broncos a 31-7 loss in a 1983 AFC First-Round Playoff. The game marked the first postseason contest in the eventual Hall of Fame career of Denver quarterback John Elway.
Carroll is 2-2 in his career against the Broncos, including 1-0 while with the Jets (1994) and 1-2 with the Patriots (1997-99). The Broncos' Josh McDaniels will be meeting both Carroll and the Seahawks for the first time as a head coach.
Vegas odds have the Broncos favored by 3.5 points.
THE BOTTOM LINE
In a game many expected the Seahawks to lose, head coach Pete Carroll had his team well prepared for San Francisco. The Seahawks held tough early, particularly on defense, and then the coaching staff made some good, in-game adjustments to help Seattle score 31 unanswered points for the victory. Now that's all very touching, but it this an aberration? Seattle looked great in a Week 1 romp over the Rams last season, then promptly went out and lost seven of its next nine, including five consecutive road blowouts. That Seattle team, in its first year under Jim Mora, was supposed to have a new energy too.
The San Francisco romp didn't hide Seattle's flaws. Their inability to run the ball has become chronic. Of the 77 yards rushing, 32 came on a single 4th quarter rush by Justin Forsett when they were ahead by 22 points. Seattle began its transition to a zone-blocking system a year ago, but the linemen must stay on their assignments longer. Continuity has also been a problem. 4 of the O-Linemen have only been with the team for little over a month.
The Broncos have their own weaknesses, but they also know who they are at this stage. They will be playing before a boisterous home crowd, and are desperate to stop a losing trend that has gown to five games going back to last season. Look for Denver to erase the residue of last week's disappointment and earn a decisive win.
In closing, I am fortunate to have the opportunity to go to this game. So if you see a guy in the northwest endzone area in an Orange Dawkins jersey screaming like a madman for his favorite team, well, that'll be me.
GO BRONCOS!
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If we can't get 3 sacks this week
It’s going to be a LONG season.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
by ChristianL on Sep 17, 2010 10:34 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
A nice thoughtful preview, thanks.
Unlike the one up on the Field Gulls blog, which is just about Famous Seahawks Victories over the Broncos and why the blogger hates the Broncos. Good mature stuff over there, makes me appreciate MHR even more. ;-)
And I agree Christian, they need to get to the QB and there will be no excuses if they don’t. And they know Polumbus weaknesses too; he may have played okay vs the niners but the Broncos should be able to get past him, even without Elvis. I want to see that.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Thank you Jeff
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
by KaptainKirk on Sep 17, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
Aberration
Now that’s all very touching, but it this an aberration?
Tony Moss of the Sports Network thinks so:
The Seahawks’ blowout of the 49ers to start the Carroll era was all very touching, but it has aberration written all over it.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/09/15/1342591/nfl-preview-seattle-1-0-at-denver.html
We’ll find out for sure on Sunday.
Good Job appreciate your work
FWIW Seattle’s TDs came on drives of 64, 60, 13, and on a interception. Field position was key to Seattle’s win as it was to Denver’s loss.
My projections Denver 11-5, San Diego 10-6, Oakland 9-7, Kansas City 7-9
by 3nS on Sep 17, 2010 10:46 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Well done, Kapitan!
Invaluable info. Thanks for your hard work.
by John in Castle Rock on Sep 17, 2010 11:36 AM MDT reply actions
I want to see
The Broncos offense score some points! We had 363 yards of offense, yet only scored 17 points. And I want to see the Defense dominate!!
All in all this is a game that the Broncos should win…..hopefully they do just that.
Go Broncos!! Shock the world in 2010!!
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."--Henry Rollins
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
Good stuff Kaptain
You sure beat any MSM breakdown I’ve seen, hands down. Thanks for your time and energy, and if I see you in the stands at that place you said you’d be, I’ll be sure to wave — but you probably won’t be able to see me from my living room!
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Sep 17, 2010 11:55 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
LOL
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
We should hopefully get DT back for this game
I really don’t think there’s a team in this league that can cover royal Lloyd Gaffney decker and DT all at once. I hope we take advantage of that.
by black_knight101 on Sep 17, 2010 12:11 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I don't think anyones worried about the passing game
It’s the running game and our defense that worries me.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Sep 17, 2010 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
same here.....
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."--Henry Rollins
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
by Dustin Maul on Sep 17, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice new graphics
Thanks for the review Kaptain. Since Seattle is having a hard time running the ball with their o-line, I really hope to see our line get some push and put then in a bunch of 3rd and longs.
STs needs to improve and please no more stupid mistakes. Don’t make it any easier for them.
Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.
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2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
question about hate
Nice article, but I have a question. Does any critiscism of the coach or a player make you a hater, or is there an acceptable type of criticism? Also, if a guy leaves, is it ok to still think he is good?
by konaphilip on Sep 17, 2010 12:44 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
It has to do with the way it is written.
There are plenty of posters on this site who express plenty of negative opinions. But they do it without name calling, and they do it without making sweeping generalizations unsupported by fact. I admit sometimes electronic communication like email, texting etc can easily be misunderstood or taken the wrong way, but its still pretty easy to read animosity in a post, and that’s when it gets labelled a hater.
I’d say most posters here are in a wait and see mode, to see if McDs changes work out in the long run. The season is still early.
Sure its still OK to like former Broncos playing for other teams. Great examples are Trevor Pryce, Clinton Portis. But I think you’ll find lots of people divided on Brandon Marshall or Cutler.
You might fool the [people] in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha!
by OutOfYourElement on Sep 17, 2010 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I think it's absolutely OK to constructively criticize anything he does,
but it’s definitely not OK to blast him personally. Criticize the action, not the person.
by CompUser on Sep 17, 2010 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
Exactly
Imagine we’re sitting in a bar just talking football. You can joke around and disagree, but saying something personal to someone’s face is different than hiding behind a computer screen. It’s silly when it gets to the point that you feel like punching somebody through your screen.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
I agree with this, and it also includes every other Bronco.
"All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players."
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
Quitter's People United Member #18
by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 17, 2010 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Logical fallacies and personal attacks
From a strictly logical point of view, please check this link listing and describing the many ways logic can be convoluted: Logical Fallacies
Pay attention to the section on personal attacks. It’s what pretty much separates posters here from many who post comments on the Denver Post blogs. As OutOfYourElement points out, such name calling makes a person a hater.
Another fallacy to look at is the Ad Hominem. This is a type of attack on a person making an argument rather then rebutting the content of an argument. Listen to Rush Limbaugh for 5 minutes and you’ll here a whole bunch of ad hominems being used. On this site, we don’t see much of these, but sometimes people just diss a source or a person—like coach or a reporter. Doing so, in my book, makes a person a hater.
Another fallacy you’ll commonly see, is guilt by association. Watch an expose´on Fox News for wall-to-wall guilt by association charges. On this site it often takes the form of, bashing Ben McD for being a brother, or bashing players like Maroney for coming from New England, or just the general trashing of anything Bellicheck or hoodie-like.
The reason I like this blog is the I occasionally see some sharp, though entertaining wit, but beyond that, people here are civil, reasoned and cultured. Sure it sometimes gets heated, but to me, that’s a sign of passion, not being a hater.
My one complaint, as minor as it is, however, is that far to may posters are predictable. Some like to be contrary just to be contrary, and some like beating dead horses rather than rooting for live broncos. But hey, that’s the spice that makes this blog tasty.
Thanks for posting your question on what constitutes being a hater. Hope this answer helps.
First they ignore you.
They then laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then, you win.
--Gandhi
by Santa Fe Bronc on Sep 17, 2010 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
This should be a good gauge of our front 7
If we cant get push on their offensive line then our defense has major issues this season. Their best linemen Max Unger is hurt so is their starting left tackle…We need to destroy Hasselbeck this game because the opportunity is definitely there.
I think so too SandO
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
The Weird
thing is the guys on Field Gulls are my friends and like it when I come over. Obviously I love the Broncos and like the Seahawks but it’s all orange and blue this week as we’ll make Matty H wish he’d stayed on the couch with Frasier while Niles enlightens him on the finer points of cheese.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Sep 17, 2010 1:44 PM MDT reply actions
LMAO!
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Haha agreed
I love the guys over at Field Gulls and grew up in Oregon, so the Seahawks were one of my child teams. Plus the fact that they used to be in the division, so it’s nice to see the rivalry reborn, even for a week.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Field gulls and the Texans blog
are my two favorite sources for wall to wall snark. AP has some pretty good snarkers as well, and I think if MHR were to ever sort of “take the gloves off” we would be closer to AP snark than BRB or FGs.
Great perils have this beauty, that they bring to light the fraternity of strangers.
by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 17, 2010 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Shame about Unger
His little brother played linebacker on my high school team. That family is freaky athletic, lol.
by SoCalBronco1998 on Sep 17, 2010 1:57 PM MDT reply actions
I'm curious so help me out.
I find the match-up interesting. Two teams under new management making changes seen as necessary. If the Seahawks turn their team around this season and the Bronco’s don’t , how would you analyze that?
McDaniels just needs more time?
Pete is a genius?
Luck of the draw?
Should have hired Pete?
I think most MHR posters understand what McD is trying to do. I’m not sure anyone is sure what Pete is up to. Any ideas?
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Well
Pete’s recent teflon-like defection from his last professional team(USC) makes me wonder how much of a genius he is. There should be feedback and consequences for the state he left that program.
All I know is, the fanbase will become more divided, the longer this losing streak lasts. Going back to last season, it has reached 5 games. I’d like to think things are looking up.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Good luck to your team Captain. Your schedule after Seattle looks brutal.
But if I remember last year the Pats came to town and that looked Brutal too?
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Sep 18, 2010 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions
I would say...
Apples and Oranges.
It is a classic sports argument, meaning that it is totally pointless and the answer depends entirely on your predisposition.
Madden be trippin' on my speed.
by TheMastermind on Sep 17, 2010 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Two ways to criticize McD
1. What a jerk. He will be gone after this season if he keeps running up the middle on 3rd and short 2. Coach runs up the middle on 3rd and short a lot. I don’t think the O line is consistant enough for that. Semper Fi
Great UFR, Kirk (et al). Rec'd.
"All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players."
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 17, 2010 2:30 PM MDT reply actions
Just as a side comment,
I hated it when Seattle moved out of the AFC West. I thought they were developing into one of our better rivalries, and (if I remember correctly) they almost always seemed to beat the Chargers and Raiders.
I am glad I am not the only one...
Who kind of misses that.
Madden be trippin' on my speed.
by TheMastermind on Sep 17, 2010 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought so too
The division was a little more interesting then.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
by KaptainKirk on Sep 17, 2010 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
They were classier then some of the other teams in this division
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Good stuff Kirk!
I like the finished product! :-)
"The night is darkest just before the dawn."- Harvey Dent
Thanks for your contributions Pablo
and I should have added to the post, Happy Birthday!
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
I give this article two thumbs up.
Great job Kaptain. This game should give a better feel for what this team’s identity may be this year.
"I cannot give you a formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: Try to please everybody."
Nice job KK.
You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
Great job with the UFR Kirk and Pablo...Thanks guys!
Since I didn’t get to watch much of the game last week because of blackouts, what little I did see was a lack of pass rush pressure. QB Garrard had time to set up and find the open receiver. I don’t why they played a paltry defense against the Jags unless the coaches were afraid of heat exhaustion. I want to see more aggression by the front 7 this week or else I’m going to be pissed!
Was Jarvis Moss used predominantly on 3rd down situations? Did he play well or was he a non factor on pass rush?
Yes he was a 3rd down option
he got some pressure, but wasn’t that noticeable.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
I thought Ayers played much better than Moss.
"The night is darkest just before the dawn."- Harvey Dent
Enjoyed the aricle KK
really hope that we can deal with the TEs better this week
"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson
Me too Steve
If I was Pete Carroll, I would get John Carlson multiple looks.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.











































