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Not-so-special teams among Broncos' concerns - Boulder Daily Camera
Tim Tebow ran right into the pile twice in his NFL debut. Correll Buckhalter fumbled away a promising drive and Denver`s defense didn`t get to David Garrard enough to prevent him from having a career-high passer rating despite holding Mike Sims-Walker without a catch.

Broncos accent deeper pass attack - The Denver Post
The NFL quarterback who led the league last weekend in big-play passes — those 25 yards or longer — wasn't Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or the other usual suspects. It was Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton, who tossed five such completions in Sunday's opener at Jacksonville.

Paige: Internet babble aboil - The Denver Post
The inference that Josh McDaniels will be introduced to his potential Waterloo in the opening home game seems premature and impulsive.

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Ex-Bronco Sharpe to return to "NFL Today" - The Denver Post
The CBS network quickly reinstated NFL analyst Shannon Sharpe, after a protection order against the former Broncos star was withdrawn.

Analysis: Maroney is here, but not ready to roll - The Denver Post
Laurence Maroney was in the Broncos' locker room Thursday, he was in the training room and he was in the meeting room.

Broncos aren't considered among the NFL elite anymore - The Denver Post
Q: I am a Broncos fan who lives near Boston. I listen to a lot of sports radio on my commute to work. (Wednesday) morning there was obvious talk about the Laurence Maroney trade. The morning crew referred to the Broncos organization as a joke. They claim (Josh) McDaniels likes anything that Bill Belichick ever got his hands on. They picked on Josh for wearing the hoodie, for signing Jarvis Green to guaranteed money and then cutting him, for moving up and drafting Tim Tebow, and for (the Maroney) trade. ... It made me sick to my stomach to listen to, as does most Patriots talk. But it got me thinking, is this the perception of the Broncos organization throughout the country, and are those thoughts starting to creep into Denver? I like the direction that Josh is taking the team, but I think he just needs some time, which is often a luxury teams can't afford in the "win-now" NFL.

Seahawks to be tough test for Broncos' running game - The Denver Post
After sifting through the details of the season-opening loss at Jacksonville, Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said the team left "a lot of yards" on the field in the running game.

McDaniels wants Broncos to earn home-field advantage in opener - The Denver Post
Given the Broncos' struggles late last season, coach Josh McDaniels doesn't expect Denver fans to automatically create a hostile environment for the visiting Seattle Seahawks in his team's home opener. He wants his players to earn that home-field advantage.

Kiszla: Hey, Broncos, it's a Rockies town - The Denver Post
With an assist from Broncos coach Josh McDaniels, dueling MVP candidates Carlos Gonzalez and Troy Tulowitzki are performing a feat that might be even more stunning than the magic of Rocktober.

Black Eyed Peas to play Super Bowl halftime show/national bathroom break | All Things Broncos
A kind of streak will be broken when the Super Bowl plays out in February in Dallas. No more classic rock.

Source: Philadelphia Eagles plan to start Michael Vick at QB Sunday - ESPN
The Philadelphia Eagles plan to start Michael Vick at quarterback on Sunday against the Detroit Lions, a team source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Vincent Jackson to sit out four games if traded under terms of settlement - ESPN
San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson will be eligible to play in Week 5 if he's traded under the terms of a settlement between the NFL and the players' union.

New Orleans Saints' Reggie Bush says forfeiture of Heisman Trophy not admission of guilt - ESPN Los Angeles
"It's me showing respect to the Heisman Trophy itself and to the people who came before me and the people coming after," Bush said after New Orleans Saints practice. "I just felt like it was the best thing to do, the most respectful thing to do because obviously I do respect the Heisman. I do respect all the things it stands for

Source: Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Cowboys vote to allow NFLPA to decertify as union - ESPN
Two more teams have voted unanimously to authorize the NFL Players Association to decertify as a union, if it is deemed necessary next March when the current labor agreement expires, according to a union source.

New York Jets' Darrelle Revis has tight hamstring, is limited in practice - ESPN New York
Rex Ryan paused and cleared his throat, trying to be funny and dramatic as he delivered not-so-funny news.

DeMarcus Ware returns to practice for Dallas Cowboys - ESPN Dallas
Dallas Cowboys outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware returned to practice Thursday after a one-day absence while recovering from a neck strain and a slight concussion.

NFL forbid Buffalo Bills fan from serving bowling ball shots at tailgate - ESPN
"It disappoints me that I have to move away from a lot where I've been for about 20 years, but I saw it coming a long time ago," said Johnson, who's tailgate has attracted international recognition as he's been featured in newspapers, on The Food Network and even profiled in a German magazine. "I have known for a long time that they want to sanitize Lot 1 and turn it into a family lot."

San Diego Chargers' sellout streak over; set for first blackout since 2004 - ESPN
The San Diego Chargers say their home opener Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars will be blacked out on local TV because they fell more than 7,000 tickets short of reaching a sellout.

NFL: Vernon Davis is channeling his anger and resurrecting his San Francisco 49ers career - ESPN
The date was Oct. 27, 2008, and the San Francisco 49ers' star tight end had spent the previous afternoon trying to understand why coach Mike Singletary had banished him to the locker room with 10 minutes remaining in a 34-13 loss to the Seattle Seahawks. Now Davis was tired of holding his tongue. As he entered Singletary's office at 49ers headquarters, he steadied himself for a clear-the-air conversation.

Game planning Vick | National Football Post
Michael Vick gets the start for the Eagles this Sunday in Detroit. Let’s take some time today to discuss how you prepare for Vick from a defensive perspective and what we should expect to see from Jim Schwartz and the Lions at Ford Field.

Here's a wrong way and a right way | National Football Post
We all spend way too much time watching and obsessing over the QB position and those carrying and catching the ball during the course of the week leading up to NFL games. Seriously, I realize the importance of the positions, as I played with the best QB ever and was part of some of the best offenses in NFL history so the concept is not lost on me. But our laser rocket-armed heroes and those handling the ball do not operate in a vacuum. Their football fate and physical well being are tied to the first second or so of each snap during each play in every game. Always has been and always will be, but if you don't know what to look for you never even notice it. Week 1 gave us many excellent examples to learn from but I selected situations that will happen every week to illustrate.

What is a real NFL insider? | National Football Post
If you search the internet, you will find thousands of "NFL insiders". However, the majority of them have never been inside a team building, played the game or even worked in the industry. The "insider" moniker gets leveraged in order to garner your eyeballs, time and money.

Joe Namath says that Hard Knocks distracted Jets | National Football Post
"I've got to believe that this 'Hard Knocks' stuff was a distraction of a nature that didn't allow them to think about their job," Namath said during an ESPN 1050 radio appearance. "I don't feel that we do have the deep threat, the speed out there at this point, that the defensive backs respect. I really believe that [Braylon] Edwards is a fine receiver. … But meantime, I don't think they're worried about him running by defensive backs. I'd like to see him catch the ball more consistently."

Something smells awful in San Francisco | National Football Post
Something is going on in San Francisco and it’s either going to be the kind of issue that tears apart the 49ers before the season gets to the midway point or it will be a galvanizing force.

Source: Patriots tried out three receivers, quarterback Keith Null | National Football Post
The New England Patriots' personnel department is keeping their emergency lists ready, auditioning several players earlier this week.

Sergio Kindle remains in holding pattern: 'I'm still waiting' | National Football Post
Baltimore Ravens rookie outside linebacker Sergio Kindle remains in a holding pattern as he awaits word on his medical status after fracturing his skull in late July when he fell down two flights of stairs.

Jared Gaither still sidelined | National Football Post
Baltimore Ravens offensive tackle Jared Gaither remains in limbo as far as his playing status, unsure when he'll be able to return from a thoracic disc injury in his back.

Cortland Finnegan wants to be NFL's dirtiest player | National Football Post
Tennessee Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan is known for being a feisty player and was voted sixth in a Sports Illustrated poll for who's the NFL's dirtiest player, a distinction given in the past to Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward.

NFL.com news: While Cutler tries to survive, CJ2K looks to keep streaking
1. How long can Cutler survive? Jay Cutler is a very talented quarterback but is playing with an offensive line and in a system that could see him get sacked 50-plus times. He got taken down 10 times in the preseason or once every 4.7 attempts. Dan Marino said he never heard of such a thing. Well, Cutler got sacked four times in the opener and if you look at all of his throws in the Mike Martz system, including preseason and regular season, he is getting whacked once every six throws. If Martz calls 500 passes this season, Cutler could go down close to 80 times. This week, Chicago travels to Dallas, which should make things even worse.

NFL.com news: Redskins' Portis lets signs talk for him on female reporter issue
Thursday was Clinton Portis' day to explain his inflammatory comments about female reporters. Instead, he decided to have some fun with it.

NFL.com news: Jim Brown defiant: 'My legacy won't be defined by Holmgren'
"No, I won't be going," Brown said. "My legacy won't be defined by Holmgren."

Lions refuse to take 'coward's way out' - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Helmets were being slammed against the locker room floor. Equipment was being kicked, dressing stalls were being whacked and colorful language was flying through the air.

Moore practices, expected to start for Panthers - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Carolina Panthers quarterback Matt Moore(notes) will likely start Sunday against Tampa Bay after practicing for a second straight day following a concussion.

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Gotta say I still like Portis

Most players would have come in and said, “I regret my unfortunate choice of words. I’m just focused on Sunday now. Blah blah blah.” Not Portis.

by admill on Sep 17, 2010 6:30 AM MDT reply actions  

Fact is...

If you read what Portis said carefully, what he said probably isn’t wrong. You’re talking about a bunch of 20-something young men in a testosterone filled environment. (If you haven’t, do a Google images search on the reporter – Inez Sainz.)

However, that is something you just don’t say these days if you’re in the public eye.

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..."

by Alan_Smithee on Sep 17, 2010 7:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, how dare she be good-looking. Why doesn’t she dress like a nun. She should expect to be harrassed!

Really, dude?

by Chibronx on Sep 17, 2010 7:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

she is obviously doing this very purposefully.

inez is not a stupid person, she understands completely the effect her ass-ets have on men. now look at all the media attention a formerly little-known reporter is getting… what she is saying is comin in loud and clear.

The poster formerly known as "Denver_Diaspora"

by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 17, 2010 7:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

In her interview

She said she was not bothered by the comments and that someone else complained. She gets the players attention and they talk to her, She is doing her job.
I also refer to the recent problems Shannon Sharpe is having and the story that the woman first saw him in a locker room after she obtained press credentials.
I don’t think Portis was wrong at all. Being politically correct is bull…..Human nature cannot be controlled because it is impolite!

Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Don’t worry about it. As an ignorant redneck, I’m qualified to say that.

by Sean in Pa. on Sep 17, 2010 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's a cultural thing...

In Latin media, the women are always smokin’ hot. It’s their job to be objectified.

by Velveeta on Sep 17, 2010 8:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

God bless their little hearts

Lead me not into temptation - I can find the way myself.

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 17, 2010 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

yep yep

Lead me not into temptation - I can find the way myself.

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 17, 2010 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

ya heard that too.

seems like a bigger deal is made of it al around than actually is necessary.

The poster formerly known as "Denver_Diaspora"

by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

She doesn't have to dress like a nun,

but she shouldn’t dress like she’s going out bar hopping either – especially when working in a men’s locker room. She’s supposed to be a professional, so when she’s on the job, she should dress like a professional. Portis is right on the money with his comments, and this is just another example of how we’re all losing our freedom of speech to political correctness.

by CompUser on Sep 17, 2010 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying she did anything wrong

I don’t know if she did. Most people are going to be attracted to people of the opposite sex.

I haven’t heard that she’s done anything that would be out of bounds.

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..."

by Alan_Smithee on Sep 17, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Who said anything about harassment?

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..."

by Alan_Smithee on Sep 17, 2010 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks John.

Am I the only one worries about Moreno? A first round rookie who still has not sniffed a 100 yard game. That stat REALLY worries me!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 6:33 AM MDT reply actions  

He DID lead all rookies in rushing last year. 7 rushing TD’s and 2 receiving isn’t too shabby either (in two less games 14 vs. 16, TD had: 7 rushing and 1 receiving – his rookie year).

He hasn’t looked comfortable yet, though he showed signed at the end of the game last week.

Is the comparison fair? Not really. KM is sharing touches with Buck last year. I do not remember if TD was sharing the load and by how much. I would also suggest that TD had a superior O-line. It’s comparing Apples to Banana’s but my point is whether he gets a 100 yard game or not, does not necessarily mean he will or won’t be a good productive nfl back.

My home is that once he gets that 100 yard game (a psychological barrier?), if becomes routine and KM becomes elite!

"I'd rather be an optimist and a fool than a pessimist and be right." - Albert Einstein

by RalphW on Sep 17, 2010 7:06 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

oops, "home" = hope

"I'd rather be an optimist and a fool than a pessimist and be right." - Albert Einstein

by RalphW on Sep 17, 2010 7:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice reply

Agreed.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 17, 2010 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bust one

You’re right there. I’d love to see Moreno take one to the house. It would show us his explosiveness. He’s yet to do that from distance.

You might fool the [people] in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha!

by OutOfYourElement on Sep 17, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

He's been better than a lot of fans think imho

and he’s really just getting started. He had a late start last year, which some forget, then of course a couple of injuries. Add to that a somewhat makeshift OL at times with its own injuries last year and this. And despite all that he’s had some very good games. And he’s been sharing time with other backs as he gets acclimated. I don’t really want him getting a ton of carries anyway, as I think he fares better when fresh, which is another reason they acquired Maroney. But KnowMo has looked very capable to me, is going to get better, and I have faith he’ll get that 100 real soon.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 17, 2010 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

88, 90, 97 — that should count as sniffing
especially on 18 and 21 carries

by Todd Jewell on Sep 17, 2010 7:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thats fair....hope I am wrong but he needs to start being clutch when we need him.....on short yardage.....on first down.....I dont see enough out of him ythat makes me think he was worth the 12th pick yet.

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 7:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh I don’t think he was worth the 12th pick =)

I was just giving information about the 100 yard games, ha!

by Todd Jewell on Sep 17, 2010 7:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Point taken. Thanks man!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 7:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not worth that pick perhaps (when did it become ok to say that here?!!)

But if he stays healthy and our line gels… the 100’s will come. I think he’s a starting quality RB.

Lead me not into temptation - I can find the way myself.

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 17, 2010 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

16 games at 80 yards a game is over 1200 yards rushing. You don’t necessarily need 100 yards to be a good NFL back — especially in this day and age of platooned backfields.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 17, 2010 7:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah...well he aint even close to doing that!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

No — You’re right. I was just trying to illustrate that the 100-yard mark is not necessarily the magical production indicator that it is used as.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 17, 2010 7:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yep...and good call man. Thats why I am laughing at people lauding Moreno's 60 yard game last weekend. Really? 60 yards...so what?

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 8:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

he certainly has yet to have a "breakout game"

as do many broncos. i just hope for development, and there were certainly glimmers of potential with some of the plays he made.

The poster formerly known as "Denver_Diaspora"

by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 17, 2010 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

His stats

Are VERY similar to LTs in his first year.

I have a half written fan post about it.

Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?

by ChristianL on Sep 17, 2010 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Looking forward to it. Hope it changes my doubts on him.

Because I was a believer when we drafted him!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't put a lot of value in how many 100-yard games a player has.

What’s more important to me are his average yards-per-carry and if he ever gets in the end zone. If a RB is splitting carries with one or two other players, but still carries the ball 10 times per game, gets between three and 10 yards every time he touches the ball (with an average of seven), and maybe gets into the end zone once (or twice), does that mean he’s not a top caliber RB because he only averages 70 yards per game and has never “sniffed” a 100-yard game?

(By the way, I don’t know what Moreno’s stats are or how many times a running back typically carries the ball in a game, I just picked random numbers here.)

by CompUser on Sep 17, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

The fans hating McD and the win now attitude....

Some fans have certainly developed a “win now” mentality, but that doesn’t change the fact that NFL teams STILL require 2-3 full years to be molded into what an incoming coach wants to do. My suggestion to those “fans” is to JUST DEAL WITH IT. Bowlen isn’t going to yank McD before giving him a fair shot at implementing his system.

In reality, if we didn’t have the OL injuries, and the loss of Doom, we would probably be be much further along in that process than we are. Even so, I see a clear plan in place, and getting players in the draft and FA that fit that plan…..I think we will be just fine…THIS year. We would have been a playoff team IMO, had the aforementioned injuries not happened….granted that’s all speculation at this point.

rant off

GO BRONCOS!!

Officially on record with a 10-6 prediction for 2010! (8/21/10)

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

by Broncotodd on Sep 17, 2010 7:29 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree Todd for sure...

I guess my only doubts are:
*McD and Xanders drafting an injured player in the first round and a player who wont really contribute for 2-3 years (considering how well KO is playing). Now, I get that Denver is walking the fine line between winning now and also building a perennial play off tea, BUT are these picks that really help us to win now.
*Trading for injured players. I expected Maroney to get straight on the field. Why are we taking a guy that is not even on the field?

I see the direction, and I like it. I am just having my first doubts on our young leaders as I think some of their decisions are flying in the face of common sense.

I could be dead wrong. Thomas could come and out and play on weekend and blow us away. I hope so!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 7:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maroney replaced Brown. It can be argued that it’s an upgrade in talent, and both guys are hurt right now. I’m still not sure if I love the Maroney trade, but I think it looks good on paper and I’m willing to give it a fair shake. To me the concern is that I’m still not seeing the McD type players translate into any kind of on-field dominance. I want to see them play as a unit like they did against Pittsburgh in the pre-season, only every week. Right now, it’s just a sloppy football team that seems determined to defeat themselves. They need that locker-room and on-field presence to keep them all pointed in the same direction.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 17, 2010 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great post man. Yeah...its a team finding ways to LOSE and then using excuses to justify the loss. Its total crap. Winners give you REASONS why they can, and losers give you EXCUSES why they cant. HOPEFULLY this team morphs into a winner!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 8:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised you take all of that

from a fairly close game against a team with a pretty darn good QB and a pretty good running game. Sure we had a few big mistakes, but its early in the season and I thought we had a fairly solid game all around, we just came up a little short. I’m sure I’ll be called a kool-aid drinker but I can’t classify this team as “determined to defeat themselves” or “a team finding ways to lose” from that one game.

by BigskyBronco on Sep 17, 2010 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not just that game BSB....how about the last 10 games last season as well? Its a disturbing trend

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 4:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I see where you are coming from now

I guess my point of view is that it is a new season with some new players and potential new schemes, so I view it as a clean slate. I saw a lot of things I liked in Sunday’s game and still feel pretty good about the team going into this season.

by BigskyBronco on Sep 17, 2010 7:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Now v. Later

During much of the McDaniels tenure, I have been critical of many of his moves.

What I am not critical of is some of his moves to take advantage of good situations and planning for the future.

When I first heard of the Maroney trade, my gut instinct was to think that it was another cast off pick up from New England. However, on reflection, my current view is that we gave up little for a player who may have a lot of upside.

Similarly, I disliked both the Smith and Quinn selections in the 2009 draft, as reaching, but I think the selection of the two receivers in the 2010 draft may be getting outstanding receivers at a draft discount due to injuries. I am not as high on the remaining receivers, with the exception of Royal, but I do think McD may have planted the seeds for future success in the passing game with the selections of D. Thomas and Decker.

I see this year as a rebuilding one… We might get lucky with the Chargers disintegrating, and Oakland and KC not getting their full acts together just yet. Even if we make the playoffs, I doubt we will go far in them. But, I like the thought of rebuilding, and think we really started the process under Shanahan.

by Baltimore Bronco on Sep 17, 2010 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Depending on how long the OL injuries last...it could be a rebuilding year.

Doom’s out….nothing we can do about that, but if Harris, Kuper and Clady all are struggling with injuries until mid-season, we may very well be in rebuilding mode.

I hope they are back this week, but only time will tell!

Agreed on having the players for the future! When everyone on this team is healthy (at least as healthy as one can be in the NFL) I think we have a great foundation for several years to come!

Officially on record with a 10-6 prediction for 2010! (8/21/10)

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

by Broncotodd on Sep 17, 2010 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

I sure wasn't referring to any fan here....hope you didn't take it that way ;)

Officially on record with a 10-6 prediction for 2010! (8/21/10)

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

by Broncotodd on Sep 17, 2010 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not at all mate. It was a good post my friend!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

whoa slow down Boydy!

All the folks who convinced me of the pros of McX enough to give them a chance… They get this year at least, right? Have a cup of the kool-aid!

BTW
We REALLY need to beat Seattle this weekend, I live here and can’t bear to hear it Monday at work!!

Lead me not into temptation - I can find the way myself.

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 17, 2010 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

souring of a fan base.

i know i know i know. never read the commentary under the posts articles. but man, it has gone from train-wreck to 3rd-world disaster over there. i really hope that only represents a fraction of our teams fan base…

The poster formerly known as "Denver_Diaspora"

by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 17, 2010 8:21 AM MDT reply actions  

LOL

I made the mistake of reading a few. Had to come get some koolaid after that!!

Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Don’t worry about it. As an ignorant redneck, I’m qualified to say that.

by Sean in Pa. on Sep 17, 2010 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

there is a lot of anger against the kool-aid,

but really, i would rather have my b.s. with a slightly positive spin than wide eyed and bitter.

The poster formerly known as "Denver_Diaspora"

by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 17, 2010 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

To be honest

I was very disappointed with the Jax game. Reading the posts here have given me secure footing for my wait and see attitude. I know you can’t put a season on one game and am more than willing to let the season work itself out.
The fan in me wants to see our team winning :P
I fully expect McDaniels to get at least through next season. I also believe he is making decisions based on his game plan.
BUT…. Man, we really need some players to step up, we really need our O-line and D-line to gel and get the damn job done, I just want to see a spark, like we saw in pre-season. Just a spark, ok?

Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Don’t worry about it. As an ignorant redneck, I’m qualified to say that.

by Sean in Pa. on Sep 17, 2010 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

totally.

texted my dad towards the end and said “someone needs to step up and make a play”

 no one really stood out. who is it gonna be? who will just make it happen?

The poster formerly known as "Denver_Diaspora"

by Jay Fin Anderson on Sep 17, 2010 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Those are the same fans who will jump all aboard the bandwagon

when the team makes the playoffs and act like they liked McDaniels all along. I have no time for people like that who get insane, unfair, irrationally negative, impatient. Screw all of them.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 17, 2010 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions   3 recs

I think a lot of that stuff feeds off negativity

It’s sort of like a perfect storm of teen-angst, ignorant outrage, and butt-hurt lashing-out over there. One guy posts some nonsense, and the rest sort of feed off of it. The negativity has reached self-sustaining level.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 17, 2010 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes

I don’t see the point in being all-negative all-the-time. What does that get you? Does it make the team better?

I just don’t get it. It’s supposed to be fun.

by AllBroncsallday on Sep 17, 2010 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

BTW Anybody LOVE the Dolts starting cold AGAIN?

And now not selling out their home opener ??

HAHAHAHAHA!!
Go Broncos!!

Lead me not into temptation - I can find the way myself.

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 17, 2010 8:44 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice new Horse Tracks Logo

To whoever made it, Nice Job!

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Sep 17, 2010 8:51 AM MDT reply actions  

I’m not one that says McD will have to produce a playoff team in 2010 or else.

But he does need to have a team that plays well in December. His needs to produce a team that is competitive in most games. His team needs to win a game or two they should not and win most (if not all) the games they should (i.e. Seattle, Rams, KC and Oakland at home).

If these things are not happening in 2010, McD should be on a VERY hot seat in 2011.

It is fact that we have lost five straight games and lost nine of the last 11 games that count. That is horrible and horrible needs to end (via winning or firing a loser the coach)

Denver: 32-33 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Sep 17, 2010 9:42 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I think thats a pretty fair assessment McG....

Just from memory games that we have given away in the last 11 games:

  • Oakland
  • Philadelphia
  • Washington
  • Pittsburgh (we had chances).
  • Jacksonville.
  • Colts (we had chances)

These are the type of games we have to grab by the throat and win.

Theres where I want to see the improvement. This team has an 11 game record of crumbling when their feet is to the fire. Thats a nasty habit!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 17, 2010 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Paige's article about the death of civil discourse on the internet regarding the Broncos is a good piece.

But I have to say, he has been the pied piper of a lot of it in the past. I want more solid journalism and less op-ed in the media in general. I’ll form my own opinion from there.

Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing.

by MrFNSunshine on Sep 17, 2010 9:49 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah

It’s pretty ironic. The Woodster stirs up all that negativity and then decries it. Um, OK….

by AllBroncsallday on Sep 17, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

yes, good observation

It’s a pretty flagrant rhetorical technique, and quite transparent.

I have a very, very low opinion of Paige.

"the megalomaniac view of oneself as the Elect, wholly good, abominably persecuted, yet assured of ultimate triumph; the attribution of gigantic and demonic powers to the adversary; the refusal to accept the ineluctable limitations and imperfections of human existence, such as transience, dissention, conflict, fallibility whether intellectual or moral; the obsession with inerrable prophecies…systematized misinterpretations, always gross and often grotesque." – Norman Cohn - quoted in The Paranoid Style in American Politics

by Colinski on Sep 17, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Its only the first game...

Quite possible the Jags turn out to be studs this year, and holding MSW to no catches and MJD to under a 100 was quite an accomplishment. I’m real curious to see how San Diego performs against the Jags. If its a blow out loss for SD, will that quiet the storm?

I’d also like to see the Broncos step up and dismantle the Hawks. You’d have to think with Tyler ‘Olay’ Polumbus and Hamilton on the line, we’ll get some pressure. And I’m fairly confident that our offense will continue to produce. So a victory here is almost required for our self respect.

I will go hide in hole if SD slaughters the Jags and we lose this weekend. That would be the perfect storm.

You might fool the [people] in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha!

by OutOfYourElement on Sep 17, 2010 10:21 AM MDT reply actions  

me too

Lead me not into temptation - I can find the way myself.

by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 17, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

No way.

This game sets up well for the Dolts. The Jags secondary was terrible against Denver. Cox and both their safeties are bad players and would not start for most NFL teams.

Rivers will rip those guys apart.

The only way the Jags win this game is if they run all over the Dolts. It’s quite possible with MJD and SD’s so-so D, but SD still has a better run D than the Jags have a pass D.

I bet the Dolts win this one and I’d bet the over.

Denver: 32-33 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Sep 17, 2010 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sir Charles

had his way with the Bolts defense, so I’m hoping MJD tears it up, and keeps the AFC’s new pouty boy off the field, because you’re right, he’s dangerous.

Well, if the Chargers win handily, and we get our butts kicked, I’m going to have to put down the cool aid for a while. Get therapy.

You might fool the [people] in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha!

by OutOfYourElement on Sep 17, 2010 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

This game scares me

I am as nervous as I have ever been for a Bronco’s football game. I don’t care how sloppy the game turns out to be or how many stupid penalties our players make or how close the score is — just win the @#*&$ football game!

I will go hide in hole if SD slaughters the Jags and we lose this weekend. That would be the perfect storm.

That sums up my feelings perfectly. All the fun will be sucked out of this season if we lose…especially if we lose AND San Diego throttles the Jags. Should we lose this game there will be a domino effect of negativity: heightened mistrust of McD, 2nd guessing of draft strategies, bagging on Orton, etc., etc., etc.

There are occasional moments when optimism has a harsh encounter with reality in the corner of a dark alley. I have been cautiously optimistic about this team and McD. A beat-down on this team Sunday will also result in a beat-down on my optimism. I don’t want to enter the world of Oakland or Cleveland or Buffalo fans. Please win the battle Sunday! Lose any other game this season, but PLEASE just win this weekend!

by JoePlummer on Sep 17, 2010 12:26 PM MDT reply actions  

Until we have a great team again, every Bronco game scares me. We’ve lost 9 out of our last 11 games. We lost several of those games to crappy teams like this Seattle one.

Denver: 32-33 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Sep 17, 2010 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

This

Every Bronco drive scares me. Our margin for error in terms of scoring TDs has never felt smaller in all my years watching Denver football. A penalty, a dropped ball, a sack/busted play – any one of them seems like an automatic drive-killer these days…

by CraftyB on Sep 17, 2010 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

This Bronco team is not good enough to make mistakes and beat anybody, especially on the road. I like what McDaniels and staff are doing and I think that they are headed in the right direction. I also agree with McGeorge that they have to show improvement and they need to be competitive in every game, especially late in the year. I also believe that McDaniels is going to be the Broncos coach for at least the next two years if not three, whether we like it or not, and that should be plenty enough time for him to prove his worth……or lack there of! Personally I hope that they succeed because that will mean a better team sooner than the Broncos would be with a regime change.
 I hope that made some sense!

I could have been a Rhodes Scholar, except for my grades.
-- Duffy Daugherty

by discgolfin' on Sep 17, 2010 3:06 PM MDT reply actions  

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