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Denver Broncos vs. Minnesota Vikings Game Preview

The Broncos' final pre-season game of 2010 will take place at the Metrodome in Minneapolis, MN, where they will take on Brett Favre and the Vikings.

At least, for a brief period of time.

The final pre-season game does not feature the starting groups for a very extended period of time.  One or two drives is usually the maximum for the top units on either side, and the fourth pre-season game is really just a venue for bubble players to make their final case for a roster spot.

That's why this game, and many others across the league, will have a regular season feel if you watch with the right perspective. 

We all know the story of Terrell Davis.  Davis was looking horrendous in training camp his rookie season, and was apparently close to being cut.  When the Broncos played a pre-season game against the San Francisco 49ers, a young rookie made a play on special teams that any football fan would never get tired of seeing.  Davis was in kickoff coverage, and he absolutely blasted the return man.

The play put Davis back in the eye of the coaching staff, and the rest is history.  Some young Broncos and Vikings are looking to make a similar type of impact tomorrow night, one that will have a lasting impression on the coaching staff.

Star-divide

 For the Broncos, much of the attention of this final pre-season game is going to be paid to quarterback Tim Tebow, who appears to have taken over the backup quarterback job from veteran Brady Quinn

Tebow has had a very solid pre-season, throwing for 177 yards on 13 completions with one touchdown and one interception.  He has also rushed for a touchdown.

Perhaps even a bigger storyline than Tim Tebow--dare I say it--is the potential return of not only running back Knowshon Moreno, but offensive tackle Ryan Clady.  Clady suffered a partially torn patellar tendon prior to the draft, and Moreno tweaked his hamstring on the first day of training camp. 

The Broncos, judging by some of their pre-season performance, are in desperate need of both players.  Kyle Orton has been more nimble in the pocket than expected, but I'm sure he would appreciate an All-Pro left tackle.  Clady is the best offensive tackle in the game, and is probably the best player on the Broncos' roster.  He had a few slip-ups with the new power scheme, but he is still a dominant pass blocker, and he and Daniel Graham are deadly in the running game on the left side.

Denver is getting healthy, but they might be wise to hold some players out for the sake of potentially aggrivating an injury.

Since not many of you probably watch a lot of Vikings football (if you do, I apologize), here are some things you might like to know about their team.

 

Offense

The Vikings are quarterbacked by Brett Favre, not that that should come as a shock to anybody.  He will see probably limited action in this pre-season game.  Tarvaris Jackson is his primary backup.  Jackson was in his second year in the league the last time he faced the Broncos, and he led the Vikings to a near come-from-behind victory in Denver on the final game of the 2007 season.  Thankfully for me (I have to deal with Vikings fans on a daily basis), the Broncos emerged victorious in overtime.

Jackson has a very, very strong arm, and is a decent scrambler.  He has good speed, but he is a pass-first quarterback.  He's not overly accurate, but he's not really wild either.  He's a servicable backup, and probably one of the better ones in the NFL.

Sage Rosenfels is the Vikings' third quarterback.  He is likely auditioning for another team tonight.  Rosenfels is becoming a journeyman backup quarterback.  He's never been great, but he's stuck around long enough because he's a smart player.  I would equate his effectiveness to that of Chris Simms, though he has a bit more of "it" than Chris does.

Joe Webb is a rookie from UAB who came to the team expecting to play wide receiver.  They switched him back to quarterback early in the offseason.  He has fantastic speed, and is very, very raw. 

Adrian Peterson will carry the load this season for the Vikings, and he is arguably the game's best.  He is much more humble than Chris Johnson, so I personally like him more.  He's a powerful runner with fantastic speed, and he has gotten better in pass protection.  His fatal flaw is his chronic fumbleitis.

Albert Young (Iowa alum) is the primary backup for the Vikings for now.  He has been horrid running the ball in the pre-season, but has been great in pass protection. 

Toby Gerhart needs little explanation around here, as many of us were hoping he would be drafted by the Broncos.  He has been unable to win the backup job to Adrian Peterson thus far, but his day will come.  He's a power back, no bones about it.

The Viking offensive line is stacked.  Bryant McKinnie and Steve Hutchinson are the best left side in football.  Phil Loadholt is enormous at the right tackle position, and had a great rookie season last year.  Anthony Herrera might be moving to center with Chris DeGeare moving to right guard, giving the Vikings two more massive bodies up front. 

Minnesota also owns one of the best groups of receivers in the NFL.  Sidney Rice is not currently healthy, but he showed last year the kind of player he is becoming.  Percy Harvin and Bernard Berrian will likely be the starters, and both have unbelievable speed and quickness.  Harvin is the better of the two, and has battled migraines in his career.  He is what Eddie Royal should be in terms of his toughness and playmaking ability out of the slot. 

Javon Walker was just signed by the Vikings, but is by no means a lock to make the final roster.  Greg Camarillo was traded to the Dolphins for Benny Sapp, a trade that was absolute robbery for the Vikings.  When Rice comes back, a corps featuring him, Berrian, Harvin, and Camarillo is going to be very potent.  They also have Greg Lewis, who made the famous catch against the 49ers last season.

By the way, they have a Pro Bowl tight end as well.  Visanthe Shiancoe is a great target at the TE position.  Jim Kleinsasser is a blocking tight end who has been in this league seemingly forever, and Garrett Mills is another pass catching specialist on the depth chart.

 

Defense

This is, bar none, the best defensive line in the NFL.  Jared Allen, Pat Williams, Kevin Williams, and Ray Edwards could all be Pro Bowlers this season.  That's scary for the other teams in the NFC.  Their defensive ends go two or three deep as well.  So deep, in fact, that former USC stud Everson Griffen is currently the third string end. 

Former Bronco Jimmy Kennedy has found a niche as a reserve in Minnesota, and he rotates with Letroy Guion and Fred Evans on the interior.

The back seven are less than impressive, but feature a couple of big name players.  E.J. Henderson and Chad Greenway are good NFL players.  Greenway should come as no surprise, as he was a former Iowa superstar.  Ben Leber is replaceable, but he still makes plays.

We will see a lot of Erin Henderson and Kenny Onatolu from the linebacker position.

In the secondary, rookie Chris Cook and starter Cedric Griffin are both going to be out for this game and then some, but we will likely see Pro Bowler Antoine Winfield for a brief time.  Asher Allen and Lito Shepard are vying for playing time, but the Vikings might be keeping just as close an eye on our secondary reserves as they are their own, as they are a candidate to trade for depth.

Madieu Williams and Tyrell Johnson are both capable starters, but are nothing to write home about.  We will see a lot of Husain Abdullah and Jamarca Sanford, a player many Vikings fans think can take over a starting position this season.

Ryan Longwell and Chris Kluwe are both solid special team players as the kicker and punter, Heath Farwell is a very good special teams player, and Rhys Lloyd handles the kickoffs.

 

For the Broncos, here are some things to watch for:

1.  Run Defense Improvement

The Broncos have had the worst run defense out of all 32 teams so far this pre-season.  That includes the St. Louis Rams.  The Broncos have to limit the big play against the Vikings.  Albert Young and Toby Gerhart have not run well in the pre-season so far.  If they run buck wild tonight, red flags should be raised.  Denver signed three big defensive linemen to patch up their run defense this offseason, and along with their holdovers from last year, it's reasonable to expect solid improvement in this area.  I will be keeping a close eye on Ronald Fields and Chris Baker.

The big play has been a serious problem in the running game.  The Broncos need to finish plays better, or they are going to be in too deep when they take on a slew of fine running backs this year.

 

2.  Pass Rush

I really enjoyed the pressure we applied to Pittsburgh quarterbacks.  The Vikings have two quarterbacks that can move, and two that can't.  We should see a good mix in that area.  Jarvis Moss, Jason Hunter, and Robert Ayers are all players I'll be keeping an eye on.  If they could all get a sack, I would feel content heading into the regular season.  That might be wishful thinking, but who knows. 

Moss and Hunter are trying to hold off Baraka Atkins for playing time.  Atkins has a sack this pre-season, but I've not seen much else from him.  Hunter appears to be the most capable against the run, but Jarvis has the edge in the pass defense department.  I am really going to enjoy watching those two battle it out for regular season playing time.

 

3.  Run, run, run

Lance Ball has quietly had a decent pre-season.  He is averaging nearly six yards a carry.  If Ball can break out this game, I think he will have definitely earned a roster spot in LenDale White's absense, and the Broncos could keep both afterward if Elvis Dumervil is not progressing.

LenDale White should see some playing time tonight as well, and if he can generate some solid numbers against this Viking run defense, I will be very, very impressed.  They are an extremely tough unit.  White could be a key reserve for the Broncos this season as a power back.

Bruce Hall had some nice runs in the Detroit game, but I don't expect him to make the final roster.  I hope he runs hard against the Vikings and earns a practice squad spot.  The Broncos could turn to him in case of a barrage of injuries.

 

4.  Wide Receiver Battle

I don't know that Brandon Stokley will play tomorrow, but the team's second leading receiver so far this pre-season is the most impressive offseason player not named Orton--Matthew Willis.  He has averaged over 17 yards per reception, and has shown great ability so far this pre-season.  He can also play special teams, which is really important to this coaching staff.  If he doesn't make the team, I will not only be shocked, I might be a little angry.  Scratch that, I will be very angry.  If he doesn't deserve to make the team, no bubble player does.

Brandon Lloyd is currently the starting receiver, and he's made some plays this pre-season.  He and Stokley are probably the two receivers battling it out for the final receiver spot.  If Stokley doesn't play tonight, I don't see how you could keep him on the team based on the performances of Lloyd and Willis.

 

5.  Cornerbacks

This situation has a similar feel as the receiver situation.  A good player is going to be let go.  Alphonso Smith has been the whipping boy, and despite the fact that some people might think he's on the bubble, I feel otherwise.  He has not yet developed, and has shown some flashes of the ability the Broncos saw in him this pre-season.  Syd'Quan Thompson would not clear waivers at this point, so I think that leaves Nate Jones.  He is going to need a big game against the Vikings.  His biggest asset is his versatility, as he can play both safety and corner.  I think he is a candidate to be traded right now, and the Broncos could possibly get their sixth round pick back that they traded for Brady Quinn.

Cassius Vaughn is also a player that has been discussed, and I think he will be a special teams candidate and potentially a roster player for next season.  He has blazing speed and has done well on coverage units. 

 

I could not be more excited for this game.  Perhaps it's just a hangover from the Pittsburgh game, but I don't care what anyone says--the pre-season is meaningful.  The wins don't count, but they sure as heck matter.  The Broncos, who are expected to be led by Tebow for a good majority of this game, will be in this game to win it.

Hopefully, someone stands out like T.D. did once upon a time.  Their NFL career might depend upon it.

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Good stuff

This could be a chance for the passing game to go off — IF the blocking holds up. Will be curious to see how the previously injured look in this game, Clady and Buck etc. I am a bit nervous that Orton is playing at all; I know it’s a long layoff til the first game but would rather not risk it with him, he’s looked fine.
I also hope AP gets over that fumbleitis this season since he’s on my fantasy team!
And agreed about Jones, he’s the one I’d prefer to give up, and would rather they give him up in trade to a team desperate for DBs than just cut him. But I would be surprised if they cut bait on ASmith barring a horrible game tonight.

Lots to look for tonight, rare for a final pre season game!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 2, 2010 9:12 AM MDT reply actions  

thats a good problem to have huh?

having too many good players and unable to decide who to let go :)

by march20 on Sep 2, 2010 9:25 AM MDT reply actions  

Not at all mentioned, but along these same lines, I vividly remember

Mark Jackson in his rookie year, wearing a number in the teens (back when wearing that number as a WR meant you were on the outside looking in) blowing up a kickoff returner and himself in the process at the ten yard line in a preseason game. He made the team and got # 80 jersey, and caught the TD on The Drive 4 months later.

QPU # 2.

by margabelle on Sep 2, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

where will the game be seen – ? whether on TV or online

Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan

by Orange and Blue on Sep 2, 2010 9:44 AM MDT reply actions  

thanks

Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan

by Orange and Blue on Sep 2, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yep, 12 pm here on PST :-)

will watch it then even though the (meaningless) score will have been spoiled long before. Maybe someone can find it streaming online on one of those hush hush sites tonight but otherwise NFLN tomorrow is a good bet

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 2, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

You can go to 850 AM radio online

And listen live… I’ll try to find the link-agge

That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.

First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 2, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

thanks

Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan

by Orange and Blue on Sep 2, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Here's that link to 850 KOA

Here, actually

That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.

First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 2, 2010 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Did you mean to say it will by played at

The Mall of America Field at the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome? Man, that’s even goofier than our own beloved Invesco Field at Mile High.

GO BRONCOS! Beat my Vikings – but not too bad though!

by CompUser on Sep 2, 2010 10:12 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice description of the vikings

Excellent job:
A couple of minor points.
 First- Peterson has looked great this preseason. No fumbles,catches everything thrown his way, and is running hard.
Second: Toby Gerhart has done well. He has made rookie running errors and is not great on blitz pick-up but is definately the real deal. Watch his feet. He makes this subtle cut. Unbelievably light on his feet for a big man. He is the AP back-up. The question is who will be the third down back. We think it’s everybody. A little more AP. Gerhart can catch the ball. Albert Young is dependable and Darius Reynaud ( WR last year) is shifty and strong.
Third: Most Minnesota fans don’t agre that our O-Line is that good. We have been missing our center Sullivan. If he’s back tonight then it will be the first time this year all have played together.
Fourth: If the Bronco’s can run against our 2nd string D-Line then you have a solid running game. Forget running against the starters.

Good luck learning about your players tonight. As always Sayre, Good Job.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Sep 2, 2010 10:15 AM MDT reply actions  

Welcome to MHR

Thanks for bringing insight on your team over here. I always like to see what our opponent’s fans see in their team.

"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV

by sadaraine on Sep 2, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice to see you around again, Lifelongvike. I appreciate your thoughts on where we overrate the Vikings — most fan posts tend toward blind cheerleading.

The same kind of dynamic applies with our offensive line. Outsiders talk about how awesome it is, and we say: Three returning players with injuries, plus two rookies — are you sure we’re so good?

by Chibronx on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

O-Line

First let me apologize for running long. I always run long. Especially when talking O-Line( or anything else football).

I’m a believer that it is difficult for any O-Line who have not been together before to do well. There is just to much timing involved. Last year the Vikes had one rookie (Loadholt) and one 2nd year player-1st year starting center (Sullivan). Our running game suffered because of it. I think the Bronco’s will have the same issue. Now I’m scared of your line next year. And maybe after tonight I will be scared this year. If your O-Line can handle the Williams bros., Jared Allen, and Ray Edwards tonight then you really have something.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Sep 2, 2010 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Will the Vikes play their starters?

I always thought Chili leaned toward resting the vets for the 4th game.

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Sep 2, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes they will play

Keep in mind that our QB has only been in camp for 14 days. He hasn’t taken one snap from our starting center (Sullivan). I imagine they will run two series to get some timing in shape.
Do yourself a favor. If Brett plays. Watch how hard and accurate he throws the ball. After only 14 stinking days. Amazing.

Defensively I don’t know. We have a huge battle going on in the 2nd string.
So I can see no starting front 4.
DEs-Robison, Mitchell, Johnson, and Griffen are fighting it out.
DTs Kennedy, Guion, Evans
Along with the starting 4 that is 11 guys after max 9 spots. Somebody is getting cut and they will be picked up by other teams.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Sep 2, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

After watching this pre-season

I’d say our offensive line isn’t good. They got assaulted by Detroit, a team with no defensive line to really speak of, they couldn’t open up gaps against Pittsburgh, and even against Cincy weren’t exactly impressive. I think Clady’s return will help improve the line a lot, instilling confidence in a squad that has struggle mightily this preseason.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 2, 2010 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

I saw where one of the sports writers (don't remember who)

projected Detroit’s defense would be in the top five of the NFL this year.

by CompUser on Sep 2, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Projections or not

We play some of the best defenses in the league this season, we need to play better to keep Orton upright and our running game strong.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 2, 2010 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

2 rookies on the line (both will be good imho)

and missing one of the best LTs in the game, and for a couple of those pre season games seeing way too much of the terrible Polumbus and Batiste, neither of whom will be a factor for Denver this year, will make one unnecessarily jaded. :)

they’ll get better.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 2, 2010 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tonight...

Is the night Jason Hunter seizes the starting OLB position. Incredbile when you think we signed him two weeks ago.

I could be way off, but i gotta feeling….that tonight’s gonna be a good good night.

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 2, 2010 10:23 AM MDT reply actions  

Please hand over your man card for quoting that “song” by the friggin’ Black Eyed Peas (actually, I’m only partly sure they sing that one, it could be Miley Cyrus who sings it). :)

Fix the line, Moreno will be fine.

by aLuffabo on Sep 2, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly!

Policing the man card, HH would be proud!

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Sep 2, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

man card

I recently posted a facebook status message: “The thought of seeing Eat Pray Love bugs the crap out of me, so I had some feeling-exploring email conversations about it. Does my Man Card get stamped or revoked?”

by tunesmith on Sep 2, 2010 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Stamped for the being buggedd by Eat Prey Love

but you’re walking a thin line with the feeling exploring email stuff. Just be careful man! You’re playing with fire!

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Sep 2, 2010 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm sorry sir

feeling-exploring email conversation = 3 points
You are in dangerous teritory. Please watch all preseason football tonite and work on your car tomorrow. An oil change in probably due.

Thank you for your co operation :-D

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Don’t worry about it. As an ignorant redneck, I’m qualified to say that.

by Sean in Pa. on Sep 2, 2010 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love Miley Cyrus, but I prefer Billy Ray

Just kidding. I think I should get to like the BEP’s and keep the man card based on my Broncos fan status.

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 2, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

How can liking a group that has Fergie

in it be grounds for man card revocation?

QPU # 2.

by margabelle on Sep 2, 2010 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly, that too!

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 2, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rock that body!

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 2, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

News flash: Fergie is gross.

Fix the line, Moreno will be fine.

by aLuffabo on Sep 2, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ummm, no… BEP’s are horrific on so many levels. No self-respecting man should listen to them. And if you actually buy their album, heaven help you.

Fix the line, Moreno will be fine.

by aLuffabo on Sep 2, 2010 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agree to disagree my friend

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 2, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Every time I hear that song

I have severe nausea.

I ponder what forces are at work that would allow the existence of the BEP’s and then I think about how one could be moved by this childish music and banal lyrics.

These are dark days indeed when the masses are inspired and entertained by such malicious acoustic diarrhea.

by NYCBronx on Sep 2, 2010 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Which is sad...

because the BEP’s back in the late 1990s, pre-fergie, were awesome.

Oh well.

by cjfarls on Sep 2, 2010 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Go Jarvis Go!

First they ignore you.
They then laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then, you win.
--Gandhi

by Santa Fe Bronc on Sep 2, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great write-up Sayre… Nice in-depth look at the Vikings’ roster.

Fix the line, Moreno will be fine.

by aLuffabo on Sep 2, 2010 10:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Sayre..so you are home at American Field tonight to watch your Broncos!!

Love it. Most MHR posters probably do not realize that you do not live in Denver.
My taping of the game tonight is to see how some players perform and then replay it again and again.
Love your view of Ronald Fields. IMO he has not ‘shown up’ since Jamal was brought in, but neither has Chris Baker. I agree, one may go.
Nate Jones, has also not ‘shown up’. For the hype bringing him in, he has slipped to #5 CB along with Alphonso. I agree that Alphonso sticks (see Jarvis Moss).
Jarvis has ‘shown up’ even though it took three years. But I think Jason Hunter will push him for the OLB starter. Which is OK to have three (Ayers) doing well.
You did not talk much about OL. I think the backups are won tonight. IMO Russ Hochstein and Seth Olsen battle for the guard/center BU position. I think Stanley Daniels has won the backup guard spot. I think Seth wins because he is a little more physical.
It pains me to say it but Brandon Stokley will be let go. Too many injuries and age. Matthew Willis has ‘shown up’ through out the OTA’s minicamos and pre-season, he should be a lock.
Sayre, enjoy your game and I here in Vegas, look forward to your recap.

by DLMyers on Sep 2, 2010 10:35 AM MDT reply actions   3 recs

Daniels

Is he actually pushing Beadles to start at LG? To me, that’s up in the air still. It’s hard to judge, maybe we’ll see tonite if Clady starts as predicted.

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Sep 2, 2010 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's pushing to start

I do think that he’s the backup, which leads him to start when Beadles is in for Clady. I think once Ryan is back, that Zane moves back to LG and Daniels back to 2nd string. I could be wrong, and we won’t know for sure until Ryan does start a game.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 2, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That’s my gut, too. I hope that’s the case. The idea of having 2 rookies cradled between the likes of Clady, Harris and Kuper actually fires me up. They should be well taken care of.

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Sep 2, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think Zane Beatles is the LG with Ryan Clady LT, but

without Clady then Beadles is the best LT and Daniels is the RG.
I love that we have found a quality guard BU but IMO he does not beat out Beatles.

by DLMyers on Sep 2, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

According to One of Jeff Legwold's articles today

It sounds like Daniels has been getting more and more time over the past two weeks starting at LG, so it’s really possible this could be.

He was excellent in the run game against the steelers. He moved back Casey Hampton on a couple of plays.

Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!

by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 2, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Super pumped for this game!!!

I know, it’s preseason, but my 2nd son turns 9 today and we’re going to the game as a family of 6 for less than $20. Can you beat that?!?! He’s getting his orange Tebow jersey at dinner and we’re hoping beyond hope that we can somehow find a way to get it autographed by the man himself.

Anyway, great writeup Sayre. Vikes are my distant #2 team so I hope both can escape injury-free.

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Sep 2, 2010 10:37 AM MDT reply actions   4 recs

2nd that prayer- Injury free- Rec'd

Happens every year. Some kid who is going to get cut anyway suffers a serious blow in the last game. Hope its not our teams tonight.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Sep 2, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

awesome, have a great time!

Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan

by Orange and Blue on Sep 2, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Yeah, it should be one of those life-long memories tonite.

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Sep 2, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rock on

Best of luck on the autograph!! happy birthday to your boy

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by Sean in Pa. on Sep 2, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

my preayers are ascending with ours, man!

No injuries for either team….we did pretty well with both teams last week, lets keep it up!

by idahobronc on Sep 2, 2010 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Favre

Everything I’ve read this morning makes it sound as if Favre isn’t going to play at all tonight. He had fluid drained from his knee and they want to rest him before the real season begins. I know he’s rusty and all but that might be the safe idea. Anyway, I saw that in several places this morning. Maybe they changed their mind?

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by underdog on Sep 2, 2010 10:52 AM MDT reply actions  

Man

I still can’t get that blitz pick up, of Troy Polamalu by LenDale White, last game, out of my head!!!

I am greatly looking forward to determining/concluding/speculating which bubble players might/not make it, from tonight. There’s a lot to look for tonight! Whether or not Favre plays LoL
Thanks for the outlook Sayre!

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First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 2, 2010 11:33 AM MDT reply actions  

Only on my DVR so far....

Someone needs to spit that out on YouTube already!!!

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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 2, 2010 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

It'd also be extremely cool to have a clip

Of LenDale’s first mile high salute – which he almost got tackled whilst giving… but even on the National feed, it got cut off as his hand was coming to the helmet and he was seemingly being slammed into by a celebratory teammate.

So, I don’t know if anyone has that kinda NFL Film access. But the stellar blitz pickup, we just need someone who’s awesome about posting Bronco YouTube stuff.

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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 2, 2010 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

not sure if answered

but does anyone know if either quinn or tebow is starting tonight?

need to know if i should set my dvr or not.

Philippians 4:6-7

by Tollyvolley127 on Sep 2, 2010 11:52 AM MDT reply actions  

I think Orton is technically starting in the 1st quarter for a series or two

As far as whose next is anybody’s guess. But I believe possibly Tebow.

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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 2, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Orton is starting and will play most of first quarter.

Tebow and Quinn will play the remainder of the game. I’m assuming in that order, but don’t know for sure.

by CompUser on Sep 2, 2010 11:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Clady slip ups?

Great write up Sayre. We expect nothing less. I did wonder if you could expand on Clady having slip ups with the new power scheme. How much time has he actually logged in this scheme? The Broncos used a zone scheme last year. Clady has not played yet this preseason. I may be answering my own question but are you referring to practice? If so, I would expect him to struggle at times having missed camp with his recovery.

by Horse Head Bookends on Sep 2, 2010 12:05 PM MDT reply actions  

The Power Scheme

The new blocking scheme is definitely new to Clady as during College and his first years here he got heavy doses of zone blocking. But he’s smart and will be able to adapt, I’m sure. Plus we still have quite a few zone concepts still working in the offense.

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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 2, 2010 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Plus

He was playing using some of the power scheme last year, as it was already being implemented. I think it was roughly 40/60 – Power/Zone, if I remember one of the McDaniels’ interviews correctly. He should be, at least, familiar.

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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Sep 2, 2010 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think he will do well. I was more wondering what Sayre meant by “slip ups”. I am not aware of any. He says his upper body is stronger this year. Once he gets his legs underneath him, watch out!

by Horse Head Bookends on Sep 2, 2010 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I believe he was referring to the fact that

Clady did not have quite as good a year last year as he did as a rookie. He looked slightly less dominant in the power blocking than he did in the zone blocking.

But, that was last year and Im sure he has spent his rehabilitation time mastering the mental aspects of the new scheme as well. We wll see to night if he plays against Jared Allen.

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by AlanC11 on Sep 2, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Clady is clearly a great player

Clady did not have quite as good a year last year as he did as a rookie.
 

I believe his “less stellar” year had less to do with declining mastery and more to do with the fact he was previously playing with Cutler who would be more likely to risk an interception than to take a sack.

by warmick on Sep 2, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, the line works as a unit and the unit was stronger in '08 than in '09 which shows in Clady's stats

If Clady can go one on one with his man he’s pretty close to unbeatable. However if he’s constantly keeping an eye out on the LG’s man b/c the LG is consistantly getting beat then his man has a better chance of beating him.

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by c_style on Sep 2, 2010 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure

For the Broncos, much of the attention of this final pre-season game is going to be paid to quarterback Tim Tebow, who appears to have taken over the backup quarterback job from veteran Brady Quinn.

That Tebow started ahead of Quinn against The Steelers (leaving Brady only a few snaps) may have been more a matter of making up for Tebow not getting any play time in the previous game than being an indicator that he is taking over the 2nd. string job. I imagine they will get more or less equal time tonight and I suspect Quinn will hold on to the first back-up job unless this game reveals significant differences in ability between them.

by warmick on Sep 2, 2010 12:59 PM MDT reply actions  

I don't think

Sayre was calling Tebow the backup because he got into the game before Quinn

He was calling Tebow the backup because Tebow has outperformed Quinn on every level.

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by Nick Cast on Sep 2, 2010 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think fans who say Tebow has outplayed Quinn should remember that he didnt play until the 4th qtr against CIN and didnt really move the ball until the final 54 seconds, with them playing a soft zone and up 18 points.. He missed the next game and had his ups and downs last week.

I agree Quinn will continue to be the backup and Tebow will remain 3rd string…

McDaniels says tonight will decide who wins the job…

by Mike Riley322 on Sep 2, 2010 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tim

has led 2 touchdown drives and threw 1 interception. He has moved the ball well and ran for a TD.

The most you can say about Quinn is that he led a field goal drive.

There is not 1 reason I can think of as to why Quinn should be the back up over Tebow.

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by Nick Cast on Sep 2, 2010 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree, Tebow has been the better QB so far this preseason

All Quinn has done is hold the ball until he gets sacked. I believe Tebow and Orton have each been sacked once while Quinn has been sacked 6 times. Unless Quinn really lights it up tonight he is and will remain our third string QB.

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by c_style on Sep 2, 2010 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by Nick Cast on Sep 2, 2010 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

1 TD drive during garbage time… Even McDaniels said both have played at the same level and tonight will go a big ways in deciding who the starter is… And when Orton got hurt.. It was Quinn that went into the game and not Tebow…

by Mike Riley322 on Sep 2, 2010 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Okay fine

if you want to take away Tim’s TD vs Cincy because it was “garbage time”

Tim still led a TD drive against the 2nd/3rd stringers against Pittsburgh.

What has Brady Quinn done that makes you think he will be a better back up then Tebow?

And when Quinn went in for the injured Orton, he got sacked….again.

People keep undermining what Tebow has done, but the fact remains that Brady Quinn hasn’t done anything at all. Period. Tebow has produced and he has made plays. That’s a billion times more then what Quinn can say.

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by Nick Cast on Sep 2, 2010 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think I could lead a TD drive in the fourth quarter of a preseason game

I’m excited for what Tebow is doing, but you shouldn’t brag about him playing well against the worst on the team.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 2, 2010 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

not bragging

He led a very impressive drive against Pittsburgh.

That one drive alone is more then what Quinn can say.

All Quinn can really say is that he stood in the pocket for a long time and got sacked multiple times in numerous games.

If Orton was injured for the whole season, Tim Tebow will be the one to play the season. Not Brady Quinn.

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by Nick Cast on Sep 2, 2010 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think you are generalizing

Quinn led a very successful drive against Cincy in the last quarter, and played decent against Detroit. You might also forget that Tebow led a failed drive or two himself. Tebow has played better, but he’s hardly much ahead of Quinn. He’s actually not ahead of Quinn according to McD, so you just keep falling back on the “Quinn gets sacked every play” excuse, but you are better then that Nick.

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by Topher Doll on Sep 2, 2010 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

To quote

Blink 182, work sucks. However, it will be over in time for the game so I’ll join you on the thread. I want to see Cassius Clay ERRR Cassius Vaughn make some plays, I’d love it if both he and Syd’Quan could make the team.

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Sep 2, 2010 1:46 PM MDT reply actions  

headed to the game - heckled already

1st post herre. I used to go to 6 or 7 games a year in Denver but this will be my 1st since moving to MN in 2003. (Missed out on last game, ’04 or ’05 was it?)

Sitting at MPLS Rock Bottom with only a broncos polo I have been good-naturedly heckled by random Vikes and Twins fans. This is gonna be great, even though it’s preseason. I have never been an opposing fan in an NFL venue before, and will be my (packers fan) wife’s first NFL game!

by gnasses on Sep 2, 2010 4:07 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

MN Broncos bar?

Yo Sayre, are there any Broncos bars in town?

by gnasses on Sep 2, 2010 4:09 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Sounds like Clady will definitely play a bit

and Knowshon is doubtful, as per Denver Post just now. Not a big surprise. Knowshon is doing better and will test it before the game to see, but they are feeling like not pushing their luck. Hopefully Buck looks healthier tonight because KnowMo will be super rusty for the first real game.

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by underdog on Sep 2, 2010 4:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Sayre and Pubkeeper

I grew up in Minnesota (currently live in NY) and have follewed the Vikings, as my second team, since their beginning (before which was a Packers’ fan). Went to school in St. Paul.
However, lived in Denver from 1974 to 2000 and became (with my growing children, who now live in Wisconsin and New Jersey) life-long Bronco fans. We talk Broncos every weekend.
Interesting how these loyalties develop and persist.

by ivanthenotsobad on Sep 2, 2010 4:29 PM MDT reply actions  

WOW

Knowshon Moreno, Ryan Clady, Richard Quinn, Champ Bailey, Brian Dawkins, and Correll Buckhalter ARE ALL BACK IN UNIFORM BABY.

BRONCO FOOTBALL!!!

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by Nick Cast on Sep 2, 2010 5:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Yahhh!!!

Officially on record with a 10-6 prediction for 2010! (8/21/10)

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by Broncotodd on Sep 2, 2010 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

if quinn is bad tonight

i would no be against cutting him and let royal be the emergency 3qb or pick up someone like brandstater if he were to get cut

free special ed.

by Swissy14 on Sep 2, 2010 5:25 PM MDT reply actions  

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