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My Magnet Theory

OK I’m officially tired of defending the Broncos.  I’m sure nearly every single one of you are too.  But, something in me can’t stop. Soooo, as my last ditch effort I am going give Bronco fans one last piece of ammunition with which to argue. 

 

Ever since the Marshall move occurred, I’ve felt that somehow the Broncos were a better team.  It took me a while (OK way too long) but I feel like I’ve finally been able to nail down WHY we are a better team WITHOUT our stud wide receiver.  After all, that is the question posed by “experts” isn’t it?  It goes something like “So tell me how the Broncos are a better team when they LOST THEIR BEST OFFENSIVE WEAPON???”  I don’t know how many times I’ve heard statements similar to that on the radio or TV this off-season when someone suggests that the Broncos will win more than 5 games.  And to be honest it was hard for me to answer.  Until now.




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It’s what I’m calling the “football magnet theory.”   There are a handful of wide receivers in the league that qualify as “football magnets.”  For the sake of this post I am defining them as players that catch 95 balls or more AND have at least 40% more catches than ANY OTHER PLAYER on their team.  MAGNETS!  Players that QBs can’t help but look to early and often.  I did my research and found the football magnets of last year and will include the next closest teammate below them.

 

Andre Johnson- 170 Targets, 107 Catches

            Kevin Walter- 70 Targets, 53 Catches

 

Steve Smith (NYG)- 159 Targets, 107 Catches

            Mario Manningham- 99 Targets, 57 Catches

 

Brandon Marshall- 154 Targets, 101 Catches

            Jabar Gaffeny- 88 Targets, 54 Catches

 

One last one that doesn’t fit my definition but I think may actually be a Magnet.

 

Calvin Johnson- 137 Targets, 76 Catches

            Bryant Johnson- 87 Targets, 35 Catches

 

I was actually a bit surprised to find that there were only three players that fit that definition.  Reggie Wayne?  Nope.  Fitzgerald? Nope.  Now what does it mean?

 

The obvious answer to that question is, if you have a Magnet on your team, you aren’t making it to the playoffs.  In fact, I went back 10 years and there is only ONE team that won a Superbowl with a Magnet on the roster.  2001, the Patriots won with Troy Brown being a Magnet.  That prompted me to look deeper.  How many Playoff Teams had a Magnet on their roster?  Since 2007, of the 36 teams to make the playoffs, ONE team had a Magnet.  The 2007 Colts had Magnet Wayne.  He was AWESOME!!  Unfortunately, the Colts were unceremoniously dumped in their first playoff game by the media sweetheart Chargers.  So now I’m wondering, are there really that many Magnets in the first place??  There were only 3 that fit my definition last year.  In 2008 only Welker came close to being a Magnet and in 2007 there were 4.  I guess quantity doesn’t matter.  It’s simply a HUGE red flag.  When you look through the list of players that are potential Magnets from year to year, you will run into the same group of players for the most part.  The vast majority of them are off-set.  Welker by Moss, Wayne by Clark, Fitzgerald by Bolden etc.  The players that aren’t off-set are the ones that draw the concern AND label of Magnets.  Brandon Marshall was identified in each of the last three years as a potential Magnet.  In 2008, he was off-set by Eddie Royal. But he is by far the most glaring example of a Magnet.

 

So where’s the conclusion?  This conversation has only one conclusion.  Not having a Magnet on your roster doesn’t mean that you are bound for glory, but HAVING A MAGNET seems to indicate that it’s HIGHLY unlikely your team will have much success.  Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are the only two QBs in the last ten years to have demonstrated the ability to have any playoff success while focused in on one particular receiver.  Marshall being a Dolphin means we have a better chance of success.  There, I said it.  You can certainly make arguments that it’s not the receivers fault, blame lies with the QB or the Offensive Coordinator.  Sure.  But if that Magnet isn’t on the field, the QB/OC is forced to look in different directions.  That’s my argument and I’m sticking with it.

 

 

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Interesting

And it certainly fits with what appears to be McDaniels emphasis on everyone contributing so that the opposing defense doesn’t know where you’re going to hit them from.

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on Sep 2, 2010 3:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Interesting theory

But I think the teams you mention as not making the playoffs but having a “magnet” player had bigger problems. Take us for example, we could run the ball or stop the run the second half of the season, is that Marshall’s fault, not at all. Houston has a porous secondary and struggle to run the ball last season. And the Giants actually made the playoffs, and I don’t think that the Giants Smith is a real “magnet” considering that last season was his breakout season, and he hadn’t caught more then 600 yards before then. So give me a great team that has a magnet that doesn’t make the playoffs and I’m more inclined to agree with you, but giving me the 2009 Broncos and Texans isn’t exactly convincing.

I might, or if you would like, am going to take a look at the past decade, see if I can find anything to help support the idea, but at this point, I think we might be just trying to help ourselves get over Marshall, and we have played well without Marshal, which is better then most expected.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 2, 2010 3:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Actually I think that IS my point

I dont think you will find much in the way of GREAT teams that have a magnet. The Giants didn’t make the playoffs last year.

by Kdo09 on Sep 2, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think you are misunderstanding me

Show me a great team with a magnet that doesn’t make the playoffs because of their passing game. If the passing game was all that was needed, the Texans would have made the playoffs and it would have been largely due to Johnson. The Giants haven’t had a true #1 receiver in a long time, Smith likely isn’t going to be an elite receiver, but compared to any other receiver on the team, he was the best. There is a reason Manning threw to Smith so much, it’s cause he trusted him, you don’t throw to a guy you don’t trust. The Giants passing game last season was the best they’d had this decade, there were so many other weakness they had that stopped them from making the playoffs. This proves more then anything else, a great passing attack isn’t always enough to win games.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 2, 2010 4:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting...

I have wondered about this but I don’t have the patience to do the leg work. Thanks for that and I wholeheartedly agree with you.

by Liquor.pig on Sep 2, 2010 4:12 PM MDT reply actions  

Something that occurred to me after my initial comment

I wonder, if you’re trying to prove that a player is a football magnet, that targets might not be a better indicator. If player A Catches 100 balls and player B catches 60 (the 40% criteria), but both players were targeted roughly the same number of times, it would be hard to claim that player A was a magnet. It would only show that he was better at catching what was thrown to him.

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on Sep 2, 2010 4:13 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Great point

You also need to take into account roles different receivers have.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 2, 2010 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ya I thought about taking that approach.

I could have gone any number of ways and I’m certainly not saying the way I went about it was the best. If you go with targets, you will get a larger pool to look at. Do you still use the 40% gap?

by Kdo09 on Sep 2, 2010 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

A quick look at last year

indicates that the results stay pretty much the same. I used 150 Targets as the benchmark. Steve Smith would fall off the list because he was only targeted 38% more than Manningham.

by Kdo09 on Sep 2, 2010 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Need to look at more years

…but definitely agree that looking at targets is a better indicator than receptions.

Also, you may want to look at % of targets rather than a raw number total. The raw number total will depend on how pass-wacky a team is.

You’d then want to look at receivers than got either X% of the total targets (say 25%?) and where no other receiver got more than Y% (15%?).

I also think g00n below has a very good point… having a “magnet” may indicate other problems on the team, rather than any particular problem with the magnet receiver. So getting rid of the good WR probably isn’t the solution… the solution is getting the complimentary targets (Clark to Wayne, Boldin/Breaston to Fitz, 2008 Royal to BMarsh) to provide additional value…. in which case for Denver this year, you’d have to determine is adding Thomas/Decker and potential improvements in running game (oline) and QB play outweigh the loss of Marshall.

The corrollary to g00n’s point is that Bmarsh being a “magnet” doesn’t necessarily mean he was the most irreplaceable player in the league, etc…. it just might indicate Denver didn’t have much else to work with, so it went with the most reasonably effective option it had.

by cjfarls on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

I like this Stat

I also think that it could be expanded further across the entire offense. For instance, I don’t think it would be likely to have a magnet receiver if you have a good running going on. Like the Jets last year couldn’t get anything going through the air, but their running game was dominant. I also don’t think you can have a successful team that is pass heavy and has a “Magnet” because opposing defenses would obviously double team him, and if the team is successful, they would have to find other targets. The biggest example of this imo is Steve Smith of the Panthers, as a not successful team, and Reggie Wayne of the Colts, as a successful team. I think if you have a magnet it is indicative of an offense that has problems. Like the broncos last year did not have a respected running game, and had a QB that wasn’t comfortable with the offense. Not to mention the misuse of Eddie Royal.

I think the Way to look at this positively for the broncos is not to say that the magnet is gone so we’ll be better, but to say that at least one of those problems, Orton looks very comfortable right now, is fixed, possibly two as Eddie Royal looks to be owning the slot, and that the fixes to these problems more than make up for the difference in capability between Marshall and Gaffney.

by gOOn on Sep 2, 2010 4:55 PM MDT reply actions  

there was

a great study I saw once about Patrick Ewing. About how average replacement level teammates would lead to a better chance of winning if Ewing actually decreased his minutes. It’s the same sort of thing – great insight here, good job putting it together.

by tunesmith on Sep 2, 2010 5:58 PM MDT reply actions  

The only way

Patrick Ewing could of won more was if a guy named Jordan was born in another era. This can be said of many sports but rarely found more significant than in the case of Mr. Jordan, he was just so dominant and had the best wingman in all of sports…arguably

by Downunder Thunder on Sep 3, 2010 7:55 AM MDT reply actions  

Yes!!!

I am sooooo over Marshall. I am thinking that with Gaffney, Decker, Thomas, Willis and (maybe) Lloyd, the Broncos have a very good corps of good WRs……..

by Gulbrand on Sep 3, 2010 11:49 AM MDT reply actions  

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