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Broncos' Running Game Should Get Back on Track Against Colts

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For years, Denver Broncos fans got used to Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak, and the zone blocking scheme, and for years it was a great success.  The Broncos could seemingly plug in any average Joe to their system, and they would be one of the NFL's top running teams.

The culture of this team has changed, and understandably so.  Josh McDaniels has implemented an offense that has made its mark in the NFL through numerous top tier passing attacks. Not unlike Shanahan's successful running game, Josh McDaniels made a franchise player out of Matt Cassel of all people, and now has Kyle Orton on track for a potentially huge season.

Despite the fact that the Broncos are a good passing team this year (and they are very, very good), it doesn't excuse the fact that they are running the ball very, very poorly in 2010.  Last week, the Broncos couldn't even put together three yards per carry between their top two running backs, and so far this season are better than only five teams in overall rushing, averaging a very pedestrian 77 yards per game.

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If the Broncos have any plans of making the playoffs this season, that number is simply unacceptable.  Even the league's best passing teams have at least a timely rushing attack.  Take a look at this week's opponent, the Indianapolis ColtsPeyton Manning is obviously the focal point of that offensive attack, and it works.  But when the Colts need to close out a game, they know that they can turn to Joseph Addai, Donald Brown, and the running game to get the job done.

Obviously, the Broncos have not shown consistency on the ground this season. How can they improve in this facet of the game?  This week's test at Indianapolis is providing plenty of new outlets for the Broncos to gain some ground, if you will. 

 

 1.  The Return of the Right Side

By this, I obviously mean the return of Chris Kuper and Ryan Harris, the team's starting right guard and right tackle respectively.  The loss of these two players has been very noticeable over the first two games.  Not as much in pass protection, which has been very good for the most part, but this piece isn't dissecting the passing game. 

Take a look at Colby'sbreakdown of Knowshon Moreno's runs from the Seattle game.  The Broncos don't seem to have any cohesiveness on the front line, and that is somewhat understandable.  Compared to the 2009 unit, this team has only one of the same starters, and that is Ryan Clady.

The return of Kuper and Harris is huge, because it will allow the Broncos to put Zane Beadles back on his more natural left side.  He has excelled in pass rush, but definitely has been struggling to adjust to run blocking from the right side, not having practiced at the position hardly at all this season.  He is a much more natural fit as a left guard for this system.

Harris and Kuper returning doesn't automatically equate to newfound success, but they are far more talented than the guys the Broncos are putting out there right now, so the news today that they are practicing is a fine surprise for Broncos fans.

 

2.  Laurence Maroney

This was a very underrated trade in my opinion.  Laurence Maroney had a very up and down year in 2009, but he wasn't bad by any means, and returned from a serious shoulder injury to have a career high in rushing touchdowns. 

I say up and down, because along with the career high in TD's, Maroney also had a career high three fumbles, all of which were lost.  Still, that only makes five fumbles in his entire career, so it's not like this guy is a chronic fumbler.  He brings the Broncos some fresh legs out of the backfield, and is an immediate talent upgrade over any back on the roster not named Knowshon. 

He will come in and run hard, and he also packs a punch in the passing game.  Maroney doesn't have blazing speed, but he makes the most of what he has when he's given space. He could be an asset on third downs. 

Where the Broncos really need Maroney to contribute is on 3rd and four or less.  Those are the plays when they need to be able to depend on the running back to get the tough yardage, and hopefully the return of their linemen plus the running of Maroney/Moreno can add that.

Maroney also gives the Broncos plenty of options out of the backfield.  While Buckhalter has been less than impressive this season, he can still play.  The Broncos now have a very solid trio in the backfield, possibly even a quartet...

 

3.  Andre Brown

I don't think Andre Brown is going to come in and take the world by storm, but he is a very talented back.  The Broncos pulled him off the practice squad for a reason, and that reason was not because of the inability of any of their other backs. 

Brown might not get a ton of chances to contribute, but he is definitely added depth and an upgrade over Lance Ball.  The Patriot scheme utilized multiple different backs, keeping the others fresh.  If the Broncos are going to utilize a running back by committee approach, they have four guys that I really like for what they are trying to do. 

Again, it's not that Brown is going to come in right away and have an impact, but take a look at the Broncos' depth chart at running back now as opposed to the start of the season.  Moreno and Buckhalter are obviously still there, but you replace Lance Ball and Bruce Hall with Andre Brown and Laurence Maroney. Not bad maneuvering by our front office. 

 

4.  Colts Run Defense

This has been a problem for the Colts in the regular season for a while now, and nothing has changed this year.  After two games, the Coltts are giving up roughly 190 yards per game on the ground.  Quick math:  190 + 77 = 267. 267/2 = 133.5.

If the Broncos cannot get roughly 130 yards on the ground this weekend, they are in trouble.  Those numbers are a combination of the averages from both teams.  I might even give the Broncos a little bit of breathing room here, and shoot for 120 yards rushing on Sunday.

But that is 120 yards or bust, and 43 more than they are averaging right now.  That isn't a ridiculous goal for this team, and they should be able to achieve it against this defense if they don't have to throw the entire game, which probably means they are losing. 

If the Broncos can't have an effective game against the league's worst run defense through two games, there is reason to worry. 

 

The Broncos are going to need to run the ball if they are going to beat the Colts on Sunday.  Controlling the clock agaisnt Peyton Manning is absolutely critical, and even dominating the time of possession battle isn't a 100 percent success rate.  There are multiple different things working in their favor in that regard, so they should be able to get something generated. Perhaps Knowshon Moreno is in line for his first career 100 yard game this weekend.  If that's the case, it's likely the Broncos did pretty well for themselves against the Colts.

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I am very hopeful too that they get their act together starting this week!

They will need to.

I have been advocating Andre Brown for a while now so don’t let me down Brown!

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by underdog on Sep 23, 2010 11:12 AM MDT reply actions  

Btw one minor correction
77 yards per carry.

I think you mean per game. ;-) Per carry would be awesome, we wouldn’t be worried if that were the case! Hee.

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by underdog on Sep 23, 2010 11:13 AM MDT reply actions  

Zane Beadles

With Harris healthy does Zane Beadles necessarily move to left guard? I would say the answer is no. I believe Stanley Daniels has won the starting left guard spot because he has been the better run blocker. I think Beadles will be used a valuable backup.

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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 23, 2010 11:16 AM MDT reply actions  

That's the question on all our minds

The depth chart certainly doesn’t put him there. I am pulling (no pun intended) for him to move back inside, because I felt like he was a better fit there. Well, he didn’t do too badly against Seattle, so who knows? He’s definitely much better than any of our other backup Tackles — I was just hoping he’d be able to start this year. I think he’s still got a shot to be a good OL for us.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 23, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Heading into Week 2...

Josh talked about Zane as the 6th or 7th OL on GameDay once everyone was healthy. That tells me the starting 5 are:

Clady at LT
Daniels at LG
Walton at C
Kuper at RG
Harris at RT

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by John Bena on Sep 23, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

On DB sight

depth chart shows
Beadles backs up RT
Clark backs up LT
and Hochstein backs up the interior.

My projections Denver 11-5, San Diego 10-6, Oakland 9-7, Kansas City 7-9

by 3nS on Sep 23, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm obviously not the coach,

but I’m having a hard time believing Beadles can’t beat out Daniels at left guard.
Go Broncs!

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by Donkhead on Sep 23, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Daniels is awful at everything apart from his one pull move. This would not stoke me out.

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Daniels

is much better at run-blocking than pass-protection. He’s a liability when Orton drops back as demonstrated very well by Tyson Alualu in the Jacksonville game.

I’m much more comfortable seeing Beadles at LG than Daniels.

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by Horsepower on Sep 23, 2010 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah Daniels needs to work on his footwork

It seems too easy to put him off balance.

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by KaptainKirk on Sep 23, 2010 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Sayre!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 11:17 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks Sayre

The math on the running game makes sense. If we can put up 120 yards on the ground and Orton has a good game I think our offense can score enough points and more importantly keep Peyton on the bench. Defense and ST have to play well too. Go Broncos!

by gratefulorange on Sep 23, 2010 11:35 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks Sayre

Good points here. Although, I question the use of multiple different a couple times; it’s either multiple or different not both.

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by bchiper on Sep 23, 2010 11:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks bchiper

I will take that into account. Appreciate it!

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by Sayre Bedinger on Sep 23, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

We need to have a good running game

And pull the on-side kick at halftime. Manning really is that good, and really the only way to beat him is to keep him off the field. Take away at least one possesion.

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by BroncoRick69 on Sep 23, 2010 12:00 PM MDT reply actions  

Don't know if Coach agrees

McD said that he would defer if we win the coin toss

by gratefulorange on Sep 23, 2010 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

We also need to pray that,

Goodman and Champ are healthy enough to play Sunday

by BroncosFaN88 on Sep 23, 2010 12:23 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Nice job Sayre

Now the perfect time for our running game to get going. I am very happy that Kuper and Harris have practiced. Someday we are going to this team and I hope it’s Sunday.

Not do we need to run well, we need our run defense to keep the Colts in check.

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by weazel on Sep 23, 2010 12:51 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Not practicing today

Harris Goodman Champ Jamaal

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by 3nS on Sep 23, 2010 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Harris != setback

Tomorrow’s report is the one to watch.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 23, 2010 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah...this is just getting old......hes made of balsa wood...suck it up Harris...lets go already!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, hes OUT...again...reports Lindsey Jones.....this is just a joke. Sorry, but this guy just gets hurt all the time. He's our version on Bob Sanders...

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like Beadles

Its better than going to Erik Pears or Adam Meadows

by _Atwater27 on Sep 23, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep...but Harris is one of the BEST in the NFL...when healthy. i think he is more important than Clady. Any line starting Daniels AINT good...

I am going to call him Ryan Sanders until he can prove he stay healthy more than 1 in 4 games…..its ridiculous for a guy to be injured this much…and its killing our run game…especially for the Indy game!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well said

and that injury looked painful. I’m grateful it wasn’t a break or something even more serious but it still takes time to heal (I should know, I had something similar in a soccer game once), and why risk losing him for the rest of the season to rush him back? I’m sure he’s doing everything he can and everything they are telling him to do to get back in there but that kind of injury really makes a player not have the agility they need to play the position. We all hope he’s back. Just want him back when he’s ready to contribute.

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by underdog on Sep 23, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thats fair.....I compare him to Sanders for that reason....he cant stay healthy. His fault? Nope. Frustrating? Shit yeah...more so for him.

Still does not change the fact hes REALLY injury prone. I hope it changes, because as I said, I think he is better than Clady and our best player, and we REALLY need him!
Dont need to be delicate with me either….its an opinion…..you aint insulting my family!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm referring more to these statements made above:

“this is getting old”
“he’s made of balsa wood”
“suck it up”
“this is a joke”
“it’s rediculous for a guy to be hurt this much”

These comments assume Harris wasn’t actually severely injured by Buck. I would think that he was. As I said above – the only place for such “anger” that you appear to have is if he somehow causes his own injuries and is thus hurting the team, etc. No matter how many times a person is legitimately injured – how can the casual fan be entitled to judge them so harshly? Ridiculing them can only serve to injure their spirit more than it already is.

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by Something Clever on Sep 23, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm with you clever

Let us just say the man has had bad luck with injuries, and hope he can return soon. The days of “suck it up” are over, and it is a good thing for players. Many of them end up with chronic issues as it is, and double digit surgeries are commonplace. This is a still a human being we are talking about here.

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by azdenfan on Sep 23, 2010 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bro...the first post was tongue in cheek...so relax!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

sorry, my bad, i missed that tongue

I agree it is terribly frustrating as a fan, must be even more so for him.

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by azdenfan on Sep 23, 2010 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed...like I said the guy has Bob Sanders disease...one of his teams best players that just cant stay on the field.

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bane of the Locker Room

I remember sitting on a plane next to a former Minnesota Vikings player who was no a motivational speaker. At one point in our conversation, he told me what it was like emotionally when a player got injured. He said the whole rest of the team shunned the injured player, like he was a leper or something. From his comments I gathered that players fear injuries, and they treat those who are injured like they have a terminal illness—that’s contagious!

I can’t help but think what Kenny McK was going though to have 2 season ending injuries in a row, before he ever got to take the field.

And then there are all the comments from fans to lay into injured players like they’re bums for being hurt, rather than heroes who gave their all to the team.

So Mr. Clever, I’m totally on board with the comments you’ve made. I hope folks will understand that players are human beings, just like they themselves are.

Here’s prayers, not personal attacks to Harris and all the Bronco’s who’ve become injured trying to live their dreams and inspire the hope of those fans who root for them.

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They then laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then, you win.
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by Santa Fe Bronc on Sep 23, 2010 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

this

"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche

by Horsepower on Sep 23, 2010 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sighhhh

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by underdog on Sep 23, 2010 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well I hope it isn't too bad for either of them.

Good to see Kuper isn’t on there. Like you said, we shall see tomorrow.

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by weazel on Sep 23, 2010 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you Sayre

Always a good read from you. I also believe that we need to run the ball. Having said that, I also believe that Indy may be thinking the same thing. My hope is that Kyle will get us checked into the right play. Any team can take away the run if they want to. If they stack the line of scrimmage, I pray that we check to the pass. I think that Kyle is way smart enough to do this. It will be a MUST this week. If we can keep them off balance and guessing on defense, it will go a long way towards time of possession and scoring. I guess what I’m trying to say in a rather long winded rant is: Run the ball to win, but only when it sets up right for us.

by broncosaurusuper on Sep 23, 2010 12:59 PM MDT reply actions  

Is it conceivable

that they would activate all four running backs?

by warmick on Sep 23, 2010 1:15 PM MDT reply actions  

inconceivable

(princess bride voice)

by _Atwater27 on Sep 23, 2010 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

+1

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by Alan_Smithee on Sep 23, 2010 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Depends on who's going to cover kicks

We need to fix that crap, now. If any of them are better at keeping a lane and taking an angle to the runner than Willis or Decker, I’d not be surprised. I wouldn’t be shocked to see all our CBs active for the same reason this week, either.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 23, 2010 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

I also think we can get on track this weekend

Bob Sanders is hurt. Indy is year in year out a smaller/quicker Defense. They are a good matchup for our new Power look OL.

Clady is also getting better each game. Lets not forget he came back late in the preseason. Weeks 1 and 2 were pretty much weeks 3 and 4 of the preseason (if he’d been healthy for its entirety). I expect him to be more improved each week.

Moreno (or Marino like the deuches from CBS like to call him) is also getting more and more healthy. The moves he put on Seattle last week were the first time he’s looked like the 1st round pick from Georgia we thought he’d be.

I’m very encouraged at this point. Go BRONCOS!!!

by _Atwater27 on Sep 23, 2010 1:29 PM MDT reply actions  

speed vs injury

I am worried that even if Harris is back, wil he trust his bum wheel enough to deal with indy’s speed rush? Maybe it is a moot point since he didn’t practice again today. Sad face.

by Bradoncadonc on Sep 23, 2010 2:20 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

More bad news...

Ryan Harris just reported out for Sundays game.

by Josh.vh on Sep 23, 2010 1:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah...getting old on Harris.

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Damn, I didn't see that.

And I got my hopes up. Could be a long day Sunday boys.

Madden be trippin' on my speed.

by TheMastermind on Sep 23, 2010 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Return of the Right Side

Colby’s analysis was flawed. The problem was not the line in most of those runs. It was Knowshon. It’s apparent from those videos that he struggles with the zone scheme, especially the zone stretch plays. I’m not sure why we ran that on the goal line, but we did . . . and Knowshon missed the cut back, just like he did repeatedly between the 20s. He did better in the man schemes, but h e’s still slow for a RB.

Of course we need our starters back. However, Moreno is not going to magically learn how to be a great running back. There’s a reason he averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year.

by Broncos_FTW on Sep 23, 2010 1:57 PM MDT reply actions  

Good points

Knowshon has great vision and quickness in the open field but he struggles with making decisions at the line and that causes him to miss opportunities that aren’t going to be there for more than a fraction of a second. He dances less than he did last year but you’re right, the indecision is still there.

Some of this is coaching, and some of it is mental discipline on the part of the back. Knowshon is a great kid and a talented runner but you HAVE to make quick reads in the backfield and hit your mark fast and decisively because not even Barry Sanders could run through walls.

Although I heard a rumor he once ran across Lake Michigan. Probably just a rumor.

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by TheMastermind on Sep 23, 2010 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agree the zone stretch is not our sweet spot.

 However if it was on Knomo then we could assume that C-buck would do better right? Buck has a rep for hitting the holes hard and fast and I believe(someone correct me if I’m wrong here) he had a lower YPC than Knomo.
 Sorry FTW but Colby’s analysis was dead on. In the replays I watched the issue 4 out of 5 times was having no hole to commit to. Yes I did see a couple of cutbacks that he “may” have missed but it was hard to tell if the LB had the angle on the hole and he was trying to make something from nothing. And yes there was a reason he averaged 3.9 last year, the same reason as now. Until we can develop a line that has played together long enough to develop some chemistry it likely will not improve with Knomo or any other back for that matter. We’re getting there though, getting Kupe back will make a difference this week.

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by asinsoin on Sep 23, 2010 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

If you want more than one hole

for a RB to run through in the zone, then you’ll be waiting a long time in the NFL. If I see a hole from the sideline view, then the coaches also see it in their endzone view.

I’m not sure what you mean by holes that he “may” have missed. If there’s a hole and he runs buy it, then he missed it. If, as happened on the goal line in the zone scheme, the line clears a gap and a LB is running up to fill it, then Moreno needs to win that battle from one yard out and score, not barrel into the back of the OL.

Moreno did better in man blocking.

Your Buckhalter reference is a logical fallacy. As an aside, Buck looks much slower this year than he did last year.

by Broncos_FTW on Sep 23, 2010 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but we must not be watching the same video

I looked all over that whole thing and the problem the majority of the time was the line. Moreno did pretty darn good getting what he could from the holes that were there (and designed for). You need to remember that while we still run zone blocking from time to time, the majority of our game is mano-y-mano power based blocking with designs for where the hole is supposed to be.

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by sadaraine on Sep 23, 2010 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm watching the video with the

gaps created in the zone scheme that Moreno ignores.

by Broncos_FTW on Sep 23, 2010 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm watching the same video.

If you think there are holes there, we disagree on what a hole is. Moreno got what he could, period. Go watch footage fo Chris Johnson against the Steelers. He looked tentative and slow, because there were no holes. That is what Moreno faces every week. Johnson last week with no holes to run through; 34 yards on 16 carries. I say give Moreno something more than a 4 inch crack to run through, and he will be fine.

by broncosaurusuper on Sep 23, 2010 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with those that there are not holes there

Were it looks like there is a hole, a linebacker is quickly coming in to fill the gap. Moreno made the best of what he could and I was actually impressed.

I think Knowshon is about to have a big game. This is the week, if not now, you have to wonder when.

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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 23, 2010 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow!

I thought I was going blind for awhile. I was impressed also. Moreno is getting quicker and running harder every week now. Just a little more patience with the o-line and all will be well. Its a shame we live in a time when instant gratification isn’t fast enough.

by broncosaurusuper on Sep 23, 2010 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

??? One hole is all it takes

As for the “may” have missed part it’s fairly simple. What you and I see from the sidelines and / or the TV camera isn’t what a RB sees at field level. Example a RB with good vision and instincts will read the angle of a block and determine the probability that the lineman can sustain it on either side for a sufficient enough time to get through. In addition he must read the pursuit angles of the LB’s and the probability that he will have a blocker in the right place to cut the angle off. So what you and I may see as a hole a RB sees as a dead end. This is just one of several examples of how what we perceive isn’t always the case.
  Not sure how you get a logical fallacy from the Buckhalter example or how he’s slower this year. Could it be that he too looks slower to you because he’s having essentially the same results as knomo?

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by asinsoin on Sep 23, 2010 7:51 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just like last week...

I think we all agreed that Denver was in a good position to exploit Seattle’s weaknesses if they wanted to win, and for the most part they did. They didn’t mount an effective pass rush but they came up with turnovers in the passing game when it counted and our own passing offense zeroed in on the Hawks’ soft spots and prospered.

This week, we face a poor run defense but a pretty solid pass rush. Running the ball will be critical and if we can’t get it done with two key starters (hopefully) back on OL and (possibly) two former first round picks in the backfield then I don’t know what to tell you, friends.

That, combined with our reborn passing attack should (hopefully) make for a solid day offensively. Needless to say, keeping Manning on the bench is the best way to beat him.

But he is going to have the ball at some point. And I think we all know that if you can’t get in the backfield and knock this man down he will find your weaknesses and pick you apart one pass at a time all day. And if we can’t defend what has come to be a surprisingly consistent, if not spectacular run attack as well, it is going to be a tough slog.

I really think we have a shot this weekend, despite what some might say. I am not holding my breath but it the Broncos seriously intend to make a playoff push this year, these are the kind of games they have to find a way to win.

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by TheMastermind on Sep 23, 2010 2:01 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice piece, Sayre

I absolutely refuse to knee-jerk a reaction to our recent running woe’s. We all knew coming into the season that our offensive line would need time, a work-in-progress. We knew that we’d be starting two rookie’s and that our two bookends were coming off injury. Kuper’s status has only compounded our issues.

It certainly doesn’t come as a shock that our running game has issues. Up until now we’ve had more questions than answers. And I’m not even convinced that the Colts game will give those answers we so desperately seek. But with ‘The Ryans’ now back from injury, Kuper too, and the rooks now positioned to get their third game behind them, the answers should start becoming more clear over the next couple weeks.

I hope we like those answers – and I still tend to believe we will. But it’s time for Knowshon to show up. Even with the issues on our OL and even with his 50-yard run the other day, it’s time for him to earn his highly drafted position. The Colts game would be a good start in showing himself as a game-changer.

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by Alex on Sep 23, 2010 3:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Spread the field?

From Football Outsiders:

If you need to pass the ball against the Colts, your best bet is to spread the field. In 2009, the Colts were an average defense or better against formations with one, two or three wide receivers. However, they were 24th in defensive DVOA against formations with four or five wide receivers.

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by underdog on Sep 23, 2010 3:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Use the force, Luke

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by azdenfan on Sep 23, 2010 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

thanks Sayre

Another great post. Establishing some kind of (semi) effective running game would open up so many more opportunities for KO and all those stud receivers. I was bummed when Lendale White went down, and am hoping Maroney can fill that power back role.

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by azdenfan on Sep 23, 2010 4:39 PM MDT reply actions  

I wouldnt put too much stock in the running statistics the Giants put up

they were running when the game was already over and it was over by the start of the third If the Broncos want to run the ball effectively, they better establish it early and make it a focal point. It will completely moot how many yards they put up if the Colts put them in the deep hole the Giants were put in

by metal_militia on Sep 23, 2010 4:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Harris out

If what I am reading is correct, Harris is out for Sunday. But I’m thinking that it may be way better for Beadles to be at RT than a less than 100% Harris. We are facing some speed rushers and any kind of ankle problem would result in a lack of mobility. Since Harris isn’t ready, why not put have Beadles going against our own fastest players who are lining up as DE’s this week in practice. Let him get the reps, and let Harris get healthy.

by showtime01 on Sep 23, 2010 5:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Beadles improved a TONNE between weeks 1 and 2 but this week is a BIG ask against Freeney and Mathis. What I like about that kid is that he is truly learning, but man, Harris back would have been awesome!

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed

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by Alan_Smithee on Sep 23, 2010 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

hopefully our line is stepping up we need them 4 kyle to win this MFing GAME!! lol

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by weazel on Sep 23, 2010 6:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Just thinkin'

wouldn’t it be great if we used some of the Colts’ own medicine. How about the Broncos starting with a no huddle and push the tempo. Seems like keeping their DE’s on the field play after play could tire them out later—we have that home field, high altitude advantage which can be a short term advantage.

by showtime01 on Sep 23, 2010 6:01 PM MDT reply actions  

I actually agree showtime.....I think we need to out Colts the Colts. I am feeling some involvement from Decker this week in the passing game...almost as a hybrid TE....I just feel like McD is brewing something!

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

As long as Decker's blocking is nothing like his special teams tackling!

Olay!

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by OutOfYourElement on Sep 23, 2010 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought the exact same thing

when I watched the Colts game the other day, am impressed as always with their no huddle, but don’t see why Denver can’t do it back to them. They’re built to work in that sort of situation and Orton is very smart. I don’t know if they WILL but I would like to see them do it a few times in the game.

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by underdog on Sep 23, 2010 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Love the article, Sayre

And I hope that the Broncos rushing attack has a breakout game against Indy.

But I have to disagree with this:

The Broncos are going to need to run the ball if they are going to beat the Colts on Sunday.

We tried to be a run first team in 2009 vs the Colts. Result: our first three drives (9 runs/5 passes) produced 0 points while the Colts put up 21 on three of their first 4 drives.

The only two drives that resulted in touchdowns were ones that had 3 runs/9 passes and 3 runs/7 passes.

We also had 6 drives (11 runs/15 passes) that resulted in no points in that game. I would suggest that we need to use the intermediate passing game to control the clock and put up points, and run just enough to keep the Colts’ defense honest.

We also need to see our defense put hands on Manning on nearly every play and to come up with take aways (we had 4 vs Seattle & intercepted Manning 3 times in ’09).

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by Brian Shrout on Sep 23, 2010 6:09 PM MDT reply actions  

Completely agree Brian!

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

THanks Brian

But I also disagree. The Broncos don’t have to start the game by running. In fact, I agree with you there. But they most certainly do need to be able to run to win the game.

If the Broncos cannot close out the game by controlling the clock and running in the 3rd/4th quarter, bad things will happen. If we can convert on third down like we did against the Seahawks, I really don’t care how we do it, but being able to run in the late parts of the game is critical in my mind.

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by Sayre Bedinger on Sep 23, 2010 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I dont think it is a question about one or the other....but I think we need to come put aggressive....

Pass to put points on the board. Pass to set up the run. What McD wants to do is not dis-similar from what manning and the Colts have done.
The other night against the Giants was a perfect example. The threat of the pass game made it easy for the Colts to run on the Giants. I read something on here or over at IAOFM that Colts struggle most against a spread out attack. SO what they pull on others, they are susceptible to themselves.

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by boydy2669 on Sep 23, 2010 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would love to see that scenario

Pass early, pass often, run up the score then use the running game to run out the clock late.

I just have serious doubts about the ability of our offensive line to be successful with that strategy. That’s why I’m inclined to take the position that the Broncos should do just enough running to force the defense to take it seriously, and burn down the time with play-action passes.

I’m just concerned about a 2.4 yards per carry average through the first two games, and have difficulty believing the Colts are going to be a miracle balm that lets Denver jump into the 7.0 ypc that Houston had.

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by Brian Shrout on Sep 23, 2010 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Aggressive early, force them to respect the run, then sustain long drives? Sounds like the key to victory right there.

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by Sayre Bedinger on Sep 23, 2010 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

You’re assuming we have the lead in the 4th Q that we are protecting. Sure in that case running will help.

But I think we have to be aggressive on offense and even if we are winning in the 4th Q (unless we are up 2 scores), continue to try to score, not run out the clock. McDaniels is very good at clock management even without running the ball very well.

The Broncos should do better than 2 ypc as that is just a low output/outlier. But I’ll be surprised if they run effectively on the Colts. We didn’t last year and it seems like our OL needs a few more games to gel/get healthy.

by McJay on Sep 23, 2010 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Against Indy

Denver needs to come out and get a lead, which is what should’ve been done against Jacksonville. If we’re gonna be a pass-first team, then let’s start acting like it and give the Colts a taste of their own medicine.

Build a lead, then run to keep the lead. If we’re struggling to run, go back to the passing game and make it really hurt.

Nice post Sayre! Too bad Harris will be out, but at least Kuper will improve the line with his return.

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by Horsepower on Sep 23, 2010 7:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Take The Lead

early Broncos and we shall see Peyton Manning playing from behind. He’ll be flawless, I’m sure, but if our lead’s big enough, it won’t matter, just like the Texans in Week 1.

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by the new Bradfather on Sep 24, 2010 12:28 AM MDT reply actions  

I see a shootout on Sunday....

I truly hope we don’t get behind by 21 like we did last year. Even so, the team stepped up and made a very good challenge for the Colts in Indy.

This year it’s at our place, and that HAS to be a factor. Fans should be the loudest they’ve ever been….and also the quietest when we have the ball.

I believe our running game will be used effectively and will keep them honest. KM ran hard and with purpose last week. We’ll see more of that on Sunday.

The Bears coaches made the right adjustments last week when Cutler was getting killed by the Blitz. They changed to 2-3 step drop-back throws…..I believe we should do the same, if we struggle with Freeney and Mathis.

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by Broncotodd on Sep 24, 2010 7:36 AM MDT reply actions  

Another Reason to be Hopeful

For awhile there it seemed like you could play rock-paper-scissors with the Broncos, Colts and Patriots. Colts beat Broncos; Broncos beat Patriots; Patriots beat Colts. Well now we’re using the Patriots system, and last year we had, in my opinion, the best game against Indy that I can remember, so maybe it will transfer :)

by gOOn on Sep 24, 2010 9:22 AM MDT reply actions  

"Buck" is sometimes reckless

I’ve seen several occasions where Buck has dived or rolled into the legs of his blocking linemen when it appeared unnecessary. I keep thinking “damn bro, hook up your blocker and make one last move to dive to the side. You’re going to need him going forward.” I haven’t noticed this with our other rb’s. When he rolled onto Harris’ legs, I could hear Harris scream, Buck didn’t even acknowledge him…wtf

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