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Upon Further Review - Denver Broncos vs.Indianapolis Colts - 2010 NFL Week Three

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   ** Upon Further Review is brought to you through the collaboration of Brian Shrout and yours truly **


The Colts finished the 2009 season 14-2 to win the AFC South and had home field advantage throughout the playoffs. They beat the Baltimore Ravens and the New York  Jets, but lost to the New Orleans Saints 30-17 in Super Bowl XLIV. In 2010, second year Head Coach Jim Caldwell has 14 new players with a mixture of young and veteran talent. The average age of the Colts is 25.5 years. Indy is bringing their 1-1 record to the Mile High City for this week's matchup.

CBS is broadcasting the game on Sunday, Sept. 26, 2010, 2:15 PM MDT at Invesco Field at Mile High, with Jim Nantz and Phil Simms covering the game. It will be available for most of the country, but you can check
here to be sure.

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The weather will be ideal for a second straight week, though a tad cooler than the 91 degrees I experienced during the Seahawks game.                                                                                                                  

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OFFENSE

The Offense for Indy begins and ends with quarterback Peyton Manning. He is the decision maker who takes what the opposing Defense gives him. Manning is such a student of the game, that he seldom makes mistakes. In fact, he is basically the on-field Offensive Coordinator for the Colts. It's no wonder he is one of the top paid players in the league.

This is a Passing Offense with a sprinkle of Run thrown in. Joseph Addai totes the ball enough to keep the defense honest and allow the play-action to be believable. When Addai needs a breather, Donald Brown is there to spell him. Otherwise, Receivers Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, Austin Collie, Anthony Gonzalez and Tight End Dallas Clark are the major play-makers for the Colts.

Up front, the Offensive Line is anchored by Center Jeff Saturday. This front five is usually among the league's best at pass protection (top seven in sacks allowed each of past eight seasons) and prides itself on keeping Peyton Manning upright. Against the Giants last week, they allowed one sack and just three quarterback hurries.

Indy Head Coach Jim Caldwell:

"We have pretty high standards in how we believe pass protection should be handled and taken care of and keeping our quarterback off the ground. We have been pretty good over the years so our standards are high; so one time is too many. Obviously he got hit a few times and a few more times than normal and that is an area we have to get shored up."

DEFENSE

On Defense, Indianapolis runs a 4-3 scheme. Bookend Defensive Ends Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney have each recorded three sacks in the Colts' first two games. Freeney had two sacks and two forced fumbles against the Giants. Mathis, meanwhile, had two sacks and one forced fumble. The Colt's forte is to get out to a lead and set these two loose to wreak havoc in the opposing backfield.

"We're basically programmed. We call it the trifecta: We want to get the sack. We want to get the forced fumble. We want to get the touchdown," said Freeney.

WEEK ONE: HOUSTON 34, INDY 24

Peyton Manning had terrific numbers--40-57, 433 yds, and 3 TDs. Both WR Austin Collie and TE Dallas Clark had 11 receptions each. Neither was enough to overcome the spectacular play of Texans Running Back Arian Foster though. Riding on Foster's  team-record 231 yards and 3 Touchdowns, Houston stunned the Colts, 34-24. If Foster is on your fantasy team, you had a good week.

Despite Manning's performance, the Colts Defense couldn't keep the undrafted 2nd-year RB in check, surrendering 6.1 yards per carry. It took a Corner blitz by Jerraud Powers to get a Tackle for Loss on Arian Foster. When three out of your top five Tacklers are Defensive Backs, you are not going stopping the run effectively. The Texans employ the Zone Blocking scheme that Head Coach Gary Kubiak has been involved with his whole career. They were getting a good push from the Offensive Linemen to keep Indy's pass rush off balance enough to take a step off of Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney's mad rush. The pair ended up with a Sack apiece on the day anyway.

The Turnover margin, 1st Downs and the Time of Possession were even, but the difference in this game was the 3rd Down conversion disparity. Indy was able to capitalize on an interception by Matt Schaub on a deep pass over the middle on a 1st and 10. That was a bad play call, especially when the run was working so good. Fortunately it didn't affect the result of the game. The Colts were only able to convert 33.3% on 3rd Downs while the Texans had a 54.5% success rate. That, along with the application of pressure to the opposing quarterback, is what allowed Houston to beat Indianapolis for only the second time in 17 tries. Houston only needed to punt twice. Peyton Manning was sacked two times and pressured on at least ten other plays. Houston's D-Line caused a holding penalty to Center Jeff Saturday and a false start on 1st year Left Guard Jamey Richard. When the Colts were in 2nd or 3rd and long situations, the Texans repeatedly collapsed the pocket on Peyton Manning with a four man rush.

Houston had a 13-10 lead at halftime and Foster stretched the lead with a 1-yard touchdown run that capped an eight minute drive to start the 3rd quarter. After that, the Colts missed an opportunity when Austin Collie caught a pass on third down at the Texans 10 yard line, but he fumbled the ball away after a hit by safety Bernard Pollard. Texan's cornerback Glover Quin recovered.

Arian ran 42 yards on the play after the fumble and scored on a 25-yard run that made it 27-10 with about nine minutes remaining. Manning rallied back to throw a 10-yard TD strike to Dallas Clark with less than five minutes on the clock. That cut Houston’s lead to 27-17. But Foster ran for 41 yards on the next series and capped his day with an 8-yard TD run. The Colts responded with a 73-yard TD to Austin Collie with about 1:30 left, but still came up short.

I have one more thing to say about this game. Houston has a rookie Returner/Wide Receiver by the name of Jacoby Jones. He has some quickness. He had a 39 yard punt return that set up the Texans first score. He also showcased his speed on a 23 yard pass reception in the 1st half. Since the Broncos will be playing the Texans in Week 16, we should keep an eye on this kid.

WEEK TWO: INDY 24, NEW YORK GIANTS 14

Against the Giants, Indy decided they were going to commit themselves to running the ball. Considered more of an afterthought for a Pass-Heavy team like the Colt's, it was a major factor against the Giants. While that may sound peculiar for a team with a high powered aerial arsenal, there was a method to this madness. The object was to keep the younger Manning off the field as much as possible. To help matters, Giants Defensive Coordinator Perry Fewell was trying to flood the Zones with as many DB's as he could. The G-men, who normally run a 4-3 Base Defense, went with a heavy dosage of nickel and dime formations. They used four Linemen, one Linebacker and six Defensive Backs--daring the Colt's to beat them with the run. So Peyton Manning obliged them. Running through a majority of Zone Blocking, Joseph Addai amassed 92 yards on 20 carries. It was the most single-game yardage he's had in almost two years (Week 4-2007). Donald Brown got his share also, adding a career-best 69 yards on 16 carries including a seven-yard touchdown run. With 43 carries, it was the first time the Colts had more rushing attempts than passing attempts since Manning was drafted.

Wide Receiver Reggie Wayne (7 catches, 96 yds, 1 TD) and TE Dallas Clark (5 for
83 yds, 1 TD) had a hand in the victory. But going 3 for 4 in the RedZone, winning the Turnover battle, getting a Touchdown from your Defense and dominating the Time of Possession usually has something to do with winning football games too.

The Colts' held Giants quarterback Eli Manning to an 85.6 passer rating. The secondary
allowed two long touchdown passes, but four Sacks, six hurries and one interception kept the Giants at bay on Defense. Indy's Rush Defense was better in Week 2. The Giants ran for 120 yards on 25 carries, led by Ahmad Bradshaw with 89 yards. A big difference from the 271 total that they gave up in Houston. The majority of rushing yardage came in the second half after end result of the game was determined.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Kicker Adam Vinatieri has been perfect so far this year going 2 for 2 with 8 Extra points made. That is all he does for the Colts. Pat McAfee does the Holding, the Punting and the Kickoffs. The Colts have allowed 21 yards per punt. McAfee has punted 10 times for an average of 38.8 yards. He has placed 5 inside the 20, 1 inside the 10, had 2 Touchbacks and 4 Fair caught. The Long Snapper is Justin Snow. Wide Receiver Anthony Gonzalez was supposed to be the featured Punt Returner, but he was injured in the first game. CB Jerraud Powers has filled in nicely. He has returned 4 punts for a respectable but not outstanding 9.3 yard average and 2 fair catches. He is also tied for the team lead in interceptions (1) with S Antoine Bethea. Devin Moore is the Kick Returner. He has 9 returns for a 21.7 average this year.

In the game vs.Texans, McAfee punted 5 times with a 19.8 average. (no that is not a typo) And you thought Mitch Berger was bad. The Coverage units weren't too good either. They gave up a 39 yard Punt Return, two Kick Returns for 23 yards and one 33 yarder. Devin Moore returned 7 Kickoffs for an average of 22 yards and Jerraud Powers return of a 13 yard punt was the highlight of the Colts Special Teams Unit in Week One.


Against the G-men, P Pat McAfee averaged 40.4 yards (net) on five punts. He also had five touch backs on kickoffs, tying a franchise record in the process. PK Adam Vinatieri made his only field goal attempt, hitting from 38 yards out. RB Devin Moore averaged 20 yards on two kickoff returns. Jerraud Powers averaged eight yards on three punt returns. The kickoff and punt coverage units allowed New York returners 12.5 yards on kickoff returns and three yards on punt returns.

INJURY WATCH

The Colts announced linebacker Ramon Humber has undergone surgery for a fractured hand and will be out this week. Receiver Anthony Gonzalez (ankle) and safety Bob Sanders (biceps) are also out for the game against Denver.

LB Gary Brackett and RB Joseph Addai did not practice Wednesday. Addai was out with an undisclosed knee injury and Brackett missed practice after hurting his back. They will  both be ready to start on Sunday.

DE Dwight Freeney took his customary extra day of rest and OT Charlie Johnson was held out of Wednesday's workout. Johnson is nursing a sprained right foot. Both will start this week. Rookie Jeff Linkenbach will be on hand to spell Johnson if needed. Linkenbach filled in sparingly in last week's game.
 
WR Pierre Garcon (ankle) and C Jeff Saturday (knee) did limited work in Wednesday's  practice and are expected to play Sunday.

LB Clint Session missed practice Wednesday and Thursday with a hamstring injury. He was held out of last week's game with the Giants and his status for the Denver game won't be known until Friday or Saturday. Last week, Rookie Kavell Conner started at weak-side linebacker in place of Session and recorded five total tackles against the Giants.

CB Brandon King was Limited on Thursday with an apparent Hamstring issue. His status is unknown at this point. King is Antoine Bethea's back up at Free Safety.

SERIES HISTORY

The Broncos will play the Colts this Sunday in the 19th regular-season
matchup and the fourth meeting between the teams in the last five regular seasons. They last met on Dec.13, 2009 at Lucas Oil Stadium, where the Colts bested the Broncos 28-16. In that game the Broncos could only muster two Brandon Marshall touchdowns and a Matt Prater Field Goal. It will take more than that to have a chance to beat the defending AFC Champs. The Broncos lead the series 11-7, including a 6-2 mark at home, but the Colts are 7-2 against the Broncos in the Peyton Manning era. The Broncos  have won 14 of their last 15 home games during the month of September dating to the 2002 season.

Vegas has Indianapolis as the 5.5 point favorite

A View from the Cheap Seats --
(by Brian Shrout)

How to Beat the Colts


There is a popular adage that the way you beat the Indianapolis Colts is to run the ball at them, run it again and again and over and over and in so doing keep Peyton Manning off the field.  

Proponents of this view will point to 2003 when Denver beat the Colts 31-17 by rushing for 227 yards and dominating the Time of Possession 44:58 to 15:02. Houston, in 2010, followed a similar path in beating Indianapolis 34-24 by rushing for 257 yards.  

The Giants lost last week 38-14, even though they rushed for 120 yards. New Orleans in the Super Bowl pursued a slightly different path. The Saints beat the Colts 31-17, but only had 51 yards rushing. They won by doing what they do best: combining pin-point passing on offense with timely runs, solid special teams play and an opportunistic defense.  

What does this all mean for Denver? There are some who are suggesting that we follow the path of the 2003 Broncos and the 2010 Texans and simply run the ball down the Colts' throat. I see a potential problem with this: To go to a run first/run most strategy would mean playing to the Broncos' weakness on offense: running the ball. When was the last time Denver fielded a 200-yard runner in a game? I believe it was the 2003 game against the Colts. For that matter, how many times in the last couple of years has Denver even managed a 100-yard rusher in a game? The Broncos have an offensive line that features three players with very limited NFL game experience who have struggled to consistently open holes for the running back. It does not seem reasonable to think that they will suddenly be able to consistently open holes in the Colts' defensive front seven.

Consider the Broncos-Colts game from 2009 which the Colts won 28-16. Denver's first three drives were nine runs and five passes. They resulted in 2 punts and one turnover on downs. Meanwhile, Indianapolis built up a twenty-one point lead. The Broncos' next drive was three runs, nine passes and resulted in a touchdown. This was followed by six balanced drives (eleven runs/fifteen passes) and resulted in two punts, one turnover on downs, one interception, one missed field goal, and a drive that ended with the end of the first half. Next, Denver had a drive of three runs, seven passes and scored a touchdown.  

From the cheap seats, it would appear that the key to beating the Colts is to play to the Broncos' strength. Pass early, pass often, score as often as possible. Finish off every drive with points. Use the short to intermediate passing game to burn the clock, and run just enough to force the Colts to account for the running game. Play better on special teams -- work on not giving up long returns, and doing silly things like running the ball from deep in our own end zone. Challenge the defense to play the same kind of opportunistic game they played against Seattle. They gave up a lot of yards, but also came up with 4 takeaways
.

THE BOTTOM LINE

Will the Colt's continue they're running ways?
-The 4-3 Defensive front that Indianapolis has faced the last two weeks will be different this week in Denver. A 3-4 with some 5-2 will be mixed in. The Broncos have struggled this season with their Run Defense. The possibility of a rookie Cornerback tandem may be too enticing for Peyton Manning to ignore.

Rattle Peyton Manning
- The Colts offense isn’t the same when Manning gets hit. It's easier said than done, but you need to force some turnovers and 3 and outs to beat this team. In the loss to Houston in Week One, Indianapolis' offensive line allowed two sacks but QB Peyton Manning was knocked down 10 other times.

It is better to attempt to beat the Colts by running the ball (Houston) than trying to beat them with using the Nickel or Dime scheme (NY Giants) predominantly. Indy's Run Defense did improve from Week One to Week Two, but they are allowing an average of 188.5 yards per game. It also helps if you can get pressures or Sacks on Peyton. Brian could be on to something with his entry from the Cheap Seats. By using the short passing game, take time off the clock and keep Manning off the field and frustrated. Peyton is one of the best at that scheme too which is no surprise. He led the league in TD passes, completion percentage, and passing first downs on short throws in 2009. So beating Indianapolis at their own game would be satisfying to this fan.

A FEW FAST FACTS

The Broncos are averaging 24 points a game. They possess the second-best third down efficiency in the NFL (56.7 percent) and have an evenly distributed offensive attack.

Indy's Run Defense is allowing an average of 188.5 yards per game, 32nd in the league.

Since 2003, the Broncos are second only to the Colts (121) for fewest sacks allowed with 176.


"It's In The Way That You Use It" -- Eric Clapton

The Broncos will be playing through heavy heartaches this Sunday. Wide Receiver Kenny McKinley passed away Monday night and while the Team and their fans all mourn this tragedy, the Colt's are not coming to town to give their condolences. The Broncos won't have much time to grieve for their departed teammate with another game close at hand. Football is an emotional game, but that's just it. It's only a game. This event will overshadow the rest of the season. So the question becomes, can the 2010 Broncos overcome adversity this early in the season, band together and win a difficult contest for their departed teammate?

R.I.P. Kenny McKinley

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Last year I was able to watch the Broncos/Colts game at Lucas Oil Field in Indy, the fans there were great with alot of good natured trash talking (something about my Elway jersey). There was only one butthole in the whole stadium and he was right behind me.
Anyway, hopefully the Colts fans that attend Sunday’s game at Mile High will leave with the same feeling.
Stay classy Denver.

by sc31089 on Sep 24, 2010 9:46 AM MDT reply actions  

Doesn't it always figure

That one guy out of 75,000 people. Whadda ya gonna do.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Sep 24, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tight Ends

I know this was mentioned by one of the columnists out there but worth repeating, the Giants made the mistake last week of not providing any help for their LT and he was overcome by Freeney multiple times. I can’t imagine McD will be that dense and know he likes multiple TE sets, too, so it would stun me if they didn’t provide help from a TE at least for Beadles on the right if not also Clady vs Freeney (at least fairly quickly if it appears he can’t handle it). Don’t know why the Giants were so stubborn about that.

But of course the Broncos also will want to use a spread of WRs too because as you point out they are more likely to win with a lot of passes spread around, more so even then with the running game, and the spread seems like something the Colts have had more trouble with than normal receiver sets. I would look for combinations of these all day and then it’s a matter of did it work or not, did the Colts stop it or not.

Anyway, good stuff, thanks!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 24, 2010 9:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Very Nice

Thanks guys. great effort, great results. enjoyed the read very much.

If the Broncos play to their strengths we have a chance. Our defense will need our offense to carry this one.

Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Don’t worry about it. As an ignorant redneck, I’m qualified to say that.

by Sean in Pa. on Sep 24, 2010 9:58 AM MDT reply actions  

Good article

While I have this as a loss, I agree with your points. We don’t run well, anymore; stick with the pass. I suspect we will try a more vertical approach, which means Orten is going to get hit- a lot. The Colts will try to jump the short stuff. Even if Champ and Goody play, they will be hobbled- and Clark will have a field day. Higher scoring game, and that favors them.

But I can hope Ayers becomes a 1 man wrecking crew…….. that would be fun to see….

by baselinedenver on Sep 24, 2010 10:01 AM MDT reply actions  

I miss Doom too.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Sep 24, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jacoby Jones

Small correction — you call him a rookie, but he’s actually in his fourth year. Otherwise, you’re correct that he is someone to watch — a great returner, and someone Houston is trying to get more involved as a receiver.

by egotistical ma on Sep 24, 2010 10:10 AM MDT reply actions  

My bad

I must have got him mixed up with Jacoby Ford.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Sep 24, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Do what you do

I think the problem with the Colts in many ways is that you try to beat them by changing your style, when really your best bet almost allways to do what you do best and hope it is enough.

Too many teams try to go run heavy to keep Manning off the field or go with heavy rushes to rattle him when really that is not how those teams would normally play. I think we need to be balanced, we need to let Orton do his thing and spread the ball around and use the run like we did last week as a way to keep the defense off balance and enable the playfake and keep the pass rushing ends honest.

On defense we need to do what we do, mix some good blitzing with good coverage and try to keep the running in check and hope our secondary is up to the task. Last time we played Manning we got 3 picks off him so our secondary can make plays, at the end it all comes down to turnovers and effeciency, if we are strong on 3rd down and strong on red zone offense and defense, avoid giving the ball away and get a few takeaways we can win this game handily with what we have.

by gyldenlove on Sep 24, 2010 10:18 AM MDT reply actions  

I think your point is proven

between the two games above. The Giants tried to do something against their strengths and it backfired.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Sep 24, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

I can see this turning into a shootout...

We definitely need to play to our strengths. Although, we practically have no pass rush or running game to speak of so I’m not sure if we can beat Indy in a game like this, but it will sure be fun to watch.

You can take the man out of Colorado, but you can't take Colorado out of the man.

by manbearpig5000000 on Sep 24, 2010 11:19 AM MDT reply actions  

Wouldn't it be fun to win a shoot out?

I’m just saying.

First they ignore you.
They then laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then, you win.
--Gandhi

by Santa Fe Bronc on Sep 24, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

The answer is yes :-)

I would love for the Broncos to win the game shoot-out or not, but from what I’ve seen, I’m not convinced our defense will even be able to force the Colts to punt the ball. I’m just hopeful that our offense can match them.

You can take the man out of Colorado, but you can't take Colorado out of the man.

by manbearpig5000000 on Sep 24, 2010 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh for the love of...

What sort of ritual do the Broncos need to do to break the injury bug?

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2010/09/24/knowshon-injured-out-against-colts/5338/

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 24, 2010 11:36 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks KK and friends. Nice read.The Broncos just need to be the Broncos and be the better team. No trciks, no gimmicks...just stand toe to toe and blast away. SHould be fun!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 24, 2010 1:30 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks Boydy

I’m just wondering which 45 players are going to make it to the game.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Sep 24, 2010 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

mmm....I think we will be heavy on DB's myself...have a gut feeling that Champ and Goody will try and go...but they may have to be replaced.

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 24, 2010 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping the Squid is in there for STs and maybe some nickle D...If they are going to set Decker then don't suit him.

Decker for whatever reason has been squandered to the STs in both of the first games where he somehow manages to be on his back more than he is in on the play! Enough of that.

by bfree2bronc on Sep 24, 2010 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can't image McD thinking we can mirror or even come close to the performance Arian Foster put on...

Kubiak and his offense caught the Colts off guard and couldn’t evere catch up. I saw the frustration in Manning’s face on the side while he watched his defense go down in flames drive after drive with the precision running of the undrafted Foster. Great game plan Kub!

There is a popular adage that the way you beat the Indianapolis Colts is to run the ball at them, run it again and again and over and over and in so doing keep Peyton Manning off the field.

No way we try a stunt like that unless the coaches have been holding something back…I doubt it very seriously and the best way to bet them is the suggestion Brian came up with, short to intermediate passing with affect and running at the right moment (down). Keeping Manning off the field and match him stride for stride if not better. What I mean by that is, if we somehow come and get a 3 position lead don’t set on it believing you are comfortable. The only time you cab be comfortable with the Colts is, if Peyton Manning is hauled off in a stretcher not to be back or at the end of the game. That’s it. There is no magic bullit or solution to winning this game. It will take a flawless offense and defense on our part and a few plays tipped our way. That is it!

by bfree2bronc on Sep 24, 2010 4:52 PM MDT reply actions  

I sure hope Denver saw Indys left guard tapping the center

when it was time to snap the ball. I couldnt beleave it when Collinsworth pointed it out. I hope they continue to that the Broncos could get the jump on snap.

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Sep 24, 2010 6:32 PM MDT reply actions  

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