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The Rest of the AFC West - Week 4

What a difference a week makes. In week 2, all four AFC West teams were victorious but in week 3 only one AFC West team came away with a win. It was the Chiefs, once again, giving them a 2 game lead in the division.

So much for the whole "everyone needs to respect the AFC West because we are not the worst division in football" idea. Having half of the division getting smacked around by NFC West teams certainly won't earn us any more respect.

The AFC West Division Standings are as follows:

Kansas City Chiefs 3-0
Denver Broncos 1-2
Oakland Raiders 1-2
San Diego Chargers 1-2

Considering what the standings looked like last year, these standings sure look upside down, don't they? 

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The Kansas City Chiefs

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Last Week

The Chiefs beat the San Francisco 49ers 31-10.

The 49ers remain win-less and are 0-3 for the first time since 2004. The Chiefs are 3-0 for the first time since 2003. 

How did the game come to a 31-10 conclusion? Last week, I said...

What really puts the 49ers behind the eight ball is their overall (offensive and defensive) play on third downs. On offense, the 49ers are 6/24 on 3rd down (25%). On defense, the 49ers allowed the opposition to convert 11 of 25 attempts (44%). Third downs will make a huge impact in this game. In two weeks, the Chiefs are 6 for 26 on 3rd down (23%). Whichever team can step up and make plays on third downs should win this game.... unless the chiefs can continue to make 1 or 2 big plays per game.

Well, during the game the Chiefs were 7 for 14 on 3rd down and the 49ers were 4 for 17. That definitely played it's part in the game. The Chiefs made good on their opportunities and the 49ers didn't.

That and the 5.3 yards per carry that the Chiefs acquired versus the 2.9 yards per carry that the 49ers put forth. The Chiefs ran for 207 yards while the 49ers ran for just 43. Clearly, the running games of the Chiefs and 49ers were on totally opposite ends of the spectrum. However, let us not forget that Matt Cassel threw 3 TDs for the first time as a Chief.

I haven't really mentioned any defenses so far this season on the Rest of the West, but the Chiefs deserve a shout out. They managed to sack Alex Smith five times on Sunday. That is more sacks than the Denver Broncos have had all season. 

Tony Moeaki made an outstanding touchdown catch during the game on Sunday. I encourage you to look up that video if you haven't seen it. I won't try and describe it because my words will not do it justice.

What resulted was as lopsided win. The 49ers looked lost while the Chiefs looked good. 

 

This Week

In week 4, the Chiefs play... nobody. It's their bye week. It's pretty early for a bye week, don't you think? Of all the teams that I wish would play this week, it is the Chiefs. I can't get a good grasp on what they are. They are undefeated, sure, but I think that they are the shakiest undefeated team in the NFL.

 

My Take on the Chiefs

I've been getting a lot of flack lately from Chiefs fans. They feel like they get no respect from me, which is true to an extent. It seems like we pick on the Chiefs, but the truth is that I just don't have any confidence that they can win a game against a "real" team. The win-less Niners aren't exactly playoff contenders.

Remember in 2009 when the Denver Broncos beat the Cleveland Browns and everyone said "well, I half expected that because the Browns are just awful". To me, the 2010 49ers are like the 2009 Browns. People are not going to give the Chiefs any respect until they show that they can beat a solid football team without the help of a torrential downpour and a deafening home crowd.

You heard it here first...They will not be 6-0.

They are just too capricious on third downs to beat a well-built football team.

 

 

The San Diego Chargers

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Last week

The Chargers lost to the Seattle Seahawks 20-27.

Why was that, you wonder?

Well, I'm glad you asked. They turned the ball over 5 times. That's the bottom line. You just can't do that and expect to win the game. Philip Rivers threw 2 interceptions and the Chargers suffered fumbles from Legedu NaaneeMike Tolbert and Darren Sproles. Granted, they did force an interception from Matt Hasselbeck and a fumble from Deion Branch, but that still leaves the Chargers with a -3 in the turnover column. The Chargers have a total of 9 turnovers on the season. Three turnovers per game is a tough pill to swallow. 

Another tough pill to swallow is the two special teams touchdowns allowed. Leon Washington returned a 101 yard and 99 yard kickoff return touchdowns. This is yet another scary statistic for Charger fans. The Chargers have allowed a total of 4 Special Teams touchdowns in 3 games. That is 1.3333333333 special teams touchdowns allowed per game.

To make it as simple as you can: five turnovers... two special teams touchdowns, that's a recipe for a loss.

- Philip Rivers

Indeed, Philip Rivers. Indeed.

Despite all of that, the Chargers had a chance to take back the game in the fourth quarter. Down by a touchdown, the Chargers embarked on two separate drives in which they had a total of 8 plays inside the redzone with under 4 minutes in the game. With those 8 plays, they scored 0 points and had 1 interception and a turnover on downs. 

The Chargers have to pick it up. They can do this by holding on to the ball and kicking the ball out of bounds every time their special teams walks on the field. Trust me, they'd be better off giving the opposing team possession at the 40 yard line.


Injuries

Larry English and the Chargers got some less than good news this week. Larry English had surgery on his foot according to NFL.com and will miss an undisclosed amount of time. Let's be honest, though. We know about foot surgeries and we know that it takes some time to fully return (Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, even Ryan Harris). Larry English being out for an "undisclosed period of time" is not a good thing for the Chargers.

With Shaun Merriman already being sidelined with an Achilles injury and calf strain, the Chargers are already looking for linebackers to step up and fill the void. Look for guys like Antwan Applewhite and Jyles Tucker to be called upon to make plays.

In other news that is somewhat injury related, the Chargers signed Ethan Albright, their fourth long snapper of the season. That is because longsnapper David Binn was placed on injured reserve and the Chargers are searching far and wide for a quality longsnapper.  

With all this negativity, how about some positive Charger news? Right Guard Louis Vasquez will not need surgery on his knee, but he may miss a game or two, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. Marcus McNeil just can't come back fast enough, can he?

Ryan Mathews is also recovering from his injury. He got in a solid workout on Monday.

They let me get after it today. It didn't hurt. I felt like my normal self.

-Ryan Mathews


This week

The Chargers will take on the Arizona Cardinals at Qualcomm Stadium. The Chargers will, once again, play a team that has faced an AFC West team the week prior (Oakland during week 3, we'll get to that in a bit).

The Arizona Cardinals have troubles of their own. In fact, I read an article that said the Cardinals were keeping Beanie Wells' arthroscopic knee surgery a secret... Hey you...Guess what? Beanie Wells had arthroscopic knee surgery. I guess the secret is out, now.

Am I taking crazy pills or something? We all know that fudging the injury report is commonplace in the NFL but come on. This is just crazy.

In other news, Cardinals wide receiver Steve Breaston will miss a few weeks after having knee surgery. He was injured in the loss against Oakland and will not play in San Diego this Sunday. This injury certainly can't help their offense. This team lacks identity and the last thing that they needed right now was their number 2 receiver to miss a few weeks with a knee injury. 

After all these injuries and their lack of identity, do I think that the Cardinals have a shot at the Chargers? Perhaps, but they are going to need turnovers and special teams touchdowns. The Chargers have shown that the way to beat him is by doing those things. The Cardinals could very well capitalize on the San Diego special teams. In fact, LaRod Stephens-Howling returned the opening kickoff 102 yards for a touchdown against the Raiders in week 3.

Wake up Chargers. The season started three and a half weeks ago.

 

 

My Take on the Chargers

 

The Chargers confuse me. They look very average right now, but judging from recent history it is impossible for me to disregard them already. They have had slow starts in the past few years but turned things around during week 4 or 5 en route to the playoffs. Will that be the case for them this season, as well? Maybe. Maybe not. They certainly better have some magic left if they want a sniff of the playoffs in 2010, though.

From what I can see, though, from the information in front of me (not speculating about the past and debating whether or not they will repeat history), the Chargers have some problems that they need to fix. The special teams issues won't just go away without some serious adjustments and the turnovers have to be concerning as well. If it weren't for those very large issues, this team could be 2-1 or 3-0 pretty easily. The problem, going forward, is whether or not the special teams and turnovers can be resolved. If things trend upwards, the Chargers should be fine. If things get worse or stand pat, the Chargers will have a draft pick in the top 10.

 

The Oakland Raiders

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Last Week

The Raiders lost to the Arizona Cardinals 23-24.

Because of this, I think the Raiders should be successful against the Cardinals this week. Statistically, the Raiders are better. Since the Cardinals are still seraching for an identity on offense (and defense, really, since losing Karlos Dansby) the Raiders have a (dare I say?) better personnel in this match up.

That is what I said last week, leading up to the Arizona Cardinals game. Clearly, I was wrong. The one time that I say that the Raiders will be successful, they lose. Maybe I should pick them more often? What say you, MHR?

This game will, no doubt, be remembered for the Sebastian Janikowski miss at the end of regulation that would have given the Raiders a last second victory. The guy doesn't usually miss but no man is perfect. It happens. A 32 yard field goal is within his range and he is expected to make that 10 out of 10 times. Now, before we crucify the kicker, let's keep in mind that...

A. No man is perfect.

B. The Raiders had 60 minutes to outscore their opponent and wouldn't have needed to rely on their kicker if they executed better when they had the chance.

Their 11 penalties for 123 yards certainly didn't help, either. Then again, allowing LaRod Stephens-Howling to return the opening kickoff for a 102 yard touchdown didn't help their cause, either.

It was just one of those games where the Raiders found a way to lose the game. 

We lost the game in not doing more in the last 30 minutes to put ourselves in position to not have to go through all that. We left so many plays out there on the field offensively. The players, coaches, we would all tell you the same thing: one for five in the red zone is not good enough. It's totally unacceptable.

- Tom Cable

Yeah, that about sums it up.

 

This Week

The Raiders will face the Houston Texans (2-1).

On offense, the Texans are kind of a big deal and people know them. They are top ten in lots of offensive categories. They are 5th in rushing yards, 8th in passing yards, 4th in total yards and 7th in points. 

Defensively, it is a totally different story. The Texans are one of three teams in the NFL that have not recorded an interception. They also are the worst pass defense in the league, allowing 369 passing yards per game. Keeping their poor pass defense in mind, they decided to sign safety Bernard Pollard and Karl Paymah this week.

This should be a pretty interesting matchup. If the Raiders can't pass on the Texans, then there is something wrong with them. Then again, the Raiders' strength is their running game, so they may want to just pound the rock down the Texans' throats. I'll certainly be interested to see how they try to attack the Texans defense. Do they go with their own strength or adapt and attack the Texans' weakness?

Regardless of the way they attack the Texans, they better hope that it works. Being 1-3 after 4 weeks is a very deep hole, especially for a team that was expected by many - not me - to be a borderline playoff team.

 

My Take on the Raiders

Best of luck to them. The Raiders are the Raiders. Good running game, below average quarterback, average defense, and an overall average team. If you're going to bring me stats that say the Raiders are better than their opponent in yards, first downs, time of possession, rushing yards, passing yards and total plays... great. Yards, first downs, time of possession, rushing yards, passing yards, and total plays do not equal points.

The Raiders are not an efficient football team. If stats won games, then the Raiders may very well be a playoff team. Unfortunately for the Raiders and their fans, we live in reality. A playoff team, they are not. Sorry mainstream media, you whiffed on this one. With a loss this week, you can stick a fork in them.

 

 

There is your weekly look at the rest of the AFC West.

P.S. I'll be traveling to Nashville this Sunday to watch the Broncos vs Titans game. If you have suggestions for parking, tailgating or even a suggestion about where I should buy my lunch, shoot me an email or leave a comment in the section below.

Go Broncos!

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Can't really answer the poll

Do I think they will live up to the expectation of being 3-0, no. Do I think they could have a winning record, yes. So are they for real, maybe.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 28, 2010 6:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Exactly what I was thinking.

Put me down for yes and no. Much better team and congrats for that, but they still have a way to go.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 29, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

If for real is average (7-9 to 9-7)..

…yes. Compared to previous year’s suckitude, thats a big step up. If they get lucky, they could hit 10-6/11-5 and go to the playoffs.

If it means they are a top-10 team in the NFL with legitimate hopes to go deep in the playoffs… nope.

by cjfarls on Sep 29, 2010 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

We will be able to tell a lot about the Chiefs

when they play the Colts and Texans. Big tests for them.

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by Nick Cast on Sep 28, 2010 6:22 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes those will be test

to see how good they are. However, put me on record as saying their final record will buff them up a bit. For the most part, their sched is a cake walk

by DBroncs1414 on Sep 28, 2010 7:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

this

is the biggest difference between them and DEN/SD

by cjfarls on Sep 29, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good answer, Nick.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 29, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed Nick

I have us losing both those game’s so please don’t think I’ve completely lost touch guys. I even thought we would lose to the 49ers after how well they played against the Saints.

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The Raiders continue to be the proverbial pile of shit from the sphincter of the football gods.

by CPT.Caveman on Sep 29, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Loosing both road game

but keeping them close won’t change my opinion of the Chiefs. Not the last several years of horrible play, but not going to run away with the division either. Most Chief fans don’t expect to win either game, but hope to steal one. Looking at their schedule it’s easy to find 6 more wins following these two. Jacksonville, Buffalo, Arizona, Oakland and Denver all at home. A road win at St Louis and their 9-7.

by DBinKC on Sep 28, 2010 6:31 PM MDT reply actions  

Their ability to run the ball and awesome special teams play make them for real.

The speed their returners have cannot be taught. The youth on the team kind of plays with a “nothing to lose” mentality. The offense is kind of bad though.

The Broncos seem to only split with them anyway. Even when they are bad! This team will be a problem this year.

See you at the game! Sec.129! All Ready!

by precisiontint on Sep 28, 2010 6:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Looking forward to playing SF and AZ

Any given Sunday and all that, those two teams look horrible.

by DCJ on Sep 28, 2010 7:18 PM MDT reply actions  

Chiefs are tough to read

In real, do you mean a playoff team? That I would say no, but I think they’ll be close. Chargers start this year is different from other years, they used to play good teams close in the beginning and lose, and then finish better as the season went on. Now, they are losing to not so good teams. They certainly can turn it around, but as u said KB it doesn’t look like it will happen as definitly as it has in years prior.

And these types of weeks I just love having Raiders fans as friends. They know they’ll get it from me!

And lucky you! Last game I went to was in Philly last year. I hope yours is better then mine (although I must say it was still a great game)

by DBroncs1414 on Sep 28, 2010 7:46 PM MDT reply actions  

If the Chiefs had scraped by the 49ers I'd say no

But since they drubbed them, I would say maybe. I can’t say yes because we were 6-0 last year and missed the playoffs.

by Orange Rush on Sep 28, 2010 8:13 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Sure

But it also looks like the Niners are the OTHER dysfunctional team in the Bay Area.

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by KaptainKirk on Sep 28, 2010 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

The 49ers are faceles at the moment! They just fired their Offensive Coordinator! They are a team in disarray...

I havem’t see the 9ers look so bad in a lot of years…The Chiefs, yeah they’re 3-0 and it looks it…Whoopee…We’ll see down the road how good they really are…I wouldn’t be all crowing about where they are just yet! Matt Cassel is a night mare waiting to happen…

by bfree2bronc on Sep 28, 2010 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

For now I have to say no

However, they have done what they needed to do to win the first two games. Cassell certainly played better against the 49ers so their bye looks like bad timing just like ours last year. I have never been a fan of a bye this early. Not totally convinced and we will see how Cassell performs in week 5 and on. If they keep it up then maybe they are. Based on how Denver started, it is understandable that I am a little skeptic.

Chargers always starts slow and then pick things up like nothing was ever wrong. If they are still playing like this in middle to late October then things will be interesting.

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2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 28, 2010 8:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Thing are very different with the Chargers this though and like I said a month ago...

Don’t be looking for a dominate December this year…The tea leaves say no…not to mention the chickhen bones…Let LaDamian go and expect great things? The gods are against this type of thing.

by bfree2bronc on Sep 28, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh believe me

I am waiting for the year this team misses the playoffs. I will love watching what all their fans down here do.

Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.

2009-10 back-to-back NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Sep 28, 2010 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

pick the raiders to win out kb!

Lol

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Sep 28, 2010 8:23 PM MDT reply actions  

Chiefs headed in right direction but not there yet

Chiefs fan here. First let me say these posts are great, and show a very balanced view of the AFC West…which is why I come over for them.

The Chiefs have too many holes to be a contender yet (if that is what “for real” means), but the recent moves get them closer. The QB play is inconsistent and the O line still has pass protection problems. The defense is much further along, but I think it will take another quality draft or two to complete this team.

I view the Chiefs as a mediocre but young and improving team, and 3-0 is a bit misleading. But after the past few years, I’ll take it.

by Paxos on Sep 28, 2010 8:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Matt Cassel has only had 2 sacks in 3 games...

Seems like the O line hasn’t had any pass protectin problems to me…

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 28, 2010 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Conservative passing game

That’s a good point… but it seems like Cassel has gotten a lot of quick pressure and the Chiefs rarely go downfield with their throws. The 49ers game seemed better in this area, so maybe there is progress. It seemed like he was always getting mobbed in the preseason.

by Paxos on Sep 28, 2010 9:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cassel’s punch-drunk from all the sacks he took the last two-years. His fear of the hit is making him get rid of the ball quickly – and terribly. He’s completing less than 55% of his passes. His passer rating sits at 75. The fact that he’s not taking sacks doesn’t mean the OL doesn’t have issues… It means he’s getting scared and getting rid of the ball sooner than he should… IMO, of course.

The Chiefs have surprised me so far, though. We knew their running game was good. Their defense has been better than I had expected. Seven sacks so far is respectable (even though five came against the Niners and their work-in-progress OL). But then again, their opponents through three weeks have combined for a grand total of one single win.

My guess is that the Chiefs are who we thought they were – and that they’re currently the paper-est of paper-tigers. I’m interested to see how they do when they play somebody better. I doubt they’ll look so good when they don’t have a discombobulated 49ers team to play against, when they don’t have two rookie linemen to exploit in both the passing game and the running game.

It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!

by Alex on Sep 28, 2010 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

So let me ask you this.

If we win against the Colts are you going to be in here say how they aren’t a good team? The 49ers damn near beat the Saints, but we stomped there a$$, yet we get the same response after every win. I didn’t think we could beat the 49ers to be honest with you, they have a pretty good defense and there offense wasn’t that bad against the Saints. Frank Gore is one of the top RB’s in the league, and we held him to 40 some yards. That’s with a defense that you said did nothing to be able to stop the run. We got R.Crennel as our DC we picked E.Berry,K.Lewis, and J.Arenas, just goes to show you the difference in good coaching vs bad coaching. The Chiefs defense is full of good character players with a great work ethic’s and a hunger for knowledge. Just goes to show you that there was no need to sign any big name defensive specialist’s because we had good players on the roster already.

On the offensive side of the ball our starting RT hasn’t played a game yet, and we are still doing pretty good. This offense has a lot more weapons this year, teams can’t just put 8 in the box now to stop the run. IMO the Chiefs running game can’t be stopped, and if Cassel keeps improving we could be tough to deal with for any team. This team has a lot of young guys on it, and with every win this team is getting more and more confident.

Going by the stats and judging how you think Cassel is going to be is pointless, he has improved with every game, and if he could play like he did against the 49ers every week i would be happy as hell. If we score 31 points on offense with our defense and ST’s we will be hard to beat.

Keep in mind that sometimes maybe it’s our defense that’s making teams look bad, and not the that they just completely suck. Or maybe our offense made a team with a pretty good defense look bad.

Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
The Raiders continue to be the proverbial pile of shit from the sphincter of the football gods.

by CPT.Caveman on Sep 29, 2010 1:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

This offense has a lot more weapons this year, teams can’t just put 8 in the box now to stop the run.

Why not? Because of one game? That’s exactly how teams will continue to play you. Cassel’s 70 yards in week-one and passer rating of 46 in week-two isn’t going to scare anyone.

If we win against the Colts are you going to be in here say how they aren’t a good team?

Yes, if you beat the Colts and Texans I would say your team has been tested and that they’re a good team.

Your points about beating the Niners need a few qualifiers in my estimation. First, Gore played very well against the Saints in week-two, but that’s not really the case for the Niners as a whole though. Secondly, the following week when they played your team, the whole team of SF ran for a grand total of 15 times – then fired their offensive coordinator for the piss-poor outing. My poing here is that yes, you beat the 49ers, but they’re a lost team right now in just about anybody’s opinion.

I know the feeling when your team wins yet gets no respect. But you’ll have to wait a couple more weeks to hear anything too optimistic from me. KC looked sloppy in San Diego, passing for what like 70 total yards? Two big plays bailed the team out of what would otherwise have been a very terrible game. The Cheifs again looked very sloppy the following week against the Brownies – not one offensive TD against a horrible team.

Yes. The Chiefs embarassed the 49ers, but I find it hard to believe that even you believe they’re much of a measuring stick at this point. So again, we’ll see. My guess, like I said, is that your Chiefs are not very good at all. As for Cassel improving, that to me is just rubbish. He had 244 yards through two games and a passer rating of 57.1. Sure, stats don’t tell everything but those stats are just pathetic.

I get that you see his 250 yard performance against the Niners and see reason for hope. I probably would too if it were my QB. But he’s not. And I’m not sure you should really hold a lot of stock in those three TD passes against a Niners team (after not throwing one the first two weeks) seemingly so disheveled. Just my opinion.

It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!

by Alex on Sep 29, 2010 2:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Heh

Teams can continue to put 8 men in the box Alex and they will all fail. The Chiefs running game is one of the best in the league, hence the top 5 ranking. Why not bring up Cassel stats for game #3? Because they don’t prove your point, that the Chiefs offense sucks? Cassel has improved every week and so has our passing game but ignore that fact if it makes you feel better. You’re not always right Alex, remember everything you said this pre-season, that we couldn’t stop the run because we did nothing to improve our run defense"WRONG". That our offense line wasn’t going to be any good and that C.Weigmann was washed up “WRONG”. I’ll take Cassel’s week #3 performance any day if it get’s us the win, it’s sure as hell better than throwing for almost 500 and not winning.

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The Raiders continue to be the proverbial pile of shit from the sphincter of the football gods.

by CPT.Caveman on Sep 29, 2010 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

agreed

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 30, 2010 7:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Chiefs are for real because they arn't putting up a front

like the Broncos did last year. Everyone knew the team was overachieving by a mile, because we didn’t have the talent! But the Chiefs do have the talent. Their running games is the best in the league and will continue to be, their defense is one of the more atheltic and will only continue to learn and improve and their coaching staff is proven, unlike ours last year. Their only real weakness is their passing game, but it looked great last game against a solid defense. If Cassell can just learn to manage the game at a higher efficiency, this team is one to look out for. They won’t win the SB this year, but they have a great shot at making the playoffs and I think will win at least 9 games.

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by GoldenNugget on Sep 28, 2010 8:46 PM MDT reply actions  

Thank you.

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by CPT.Caveman on Sep 29, 2010 1:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for saying something about the help of the rain in the first game

It’s amazing it was only raining on the Chargers ;)

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 28, 2010 8:58 PM MDT reply actions   4 recs

Nice one.

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by weazel on Sep 28, 2010 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha, well played and rec'd.

The reason that was a factor is because of the picture you just showed. Shotgun. Potential for a quarterback to drop the ball (which happened), especially when wet. Receivers running routes with a possibility of slipping. The wet ball flying through the air. The receivers having to catch said wet ball. The offense is just bogged down a bit because of the conditions, which is why the Colts always seemed to get killed early in the 2000’s when they played outside in the slop during the playoffs. Their offense wasn’t built for those conditions and neither are the 2010 Chargers.

Lots of room for error in that type of offense.

Fortunately for the Chiefs, they didn’t have a “type of offense”…. can I get an amen? :)

Special teams play saved the Chiefs because the Chiefs only put together 1 solid offensive play (which was a running touchdown).

So, that’s why the rain only rained on the Chargers. They had to run an offense and the Chiefs did not.

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by Troy Hufford on Sep 29, 2010 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Chiefs are the worst 3-0 team ever.

Not really, but you don’t seem to hear many analysts bashing KC like they bashed us last year.

by jack_ on Sep 28, 2010 9:53 PM MDT reply actions  

No because their all waking up to the fact that this Chiefs team, even though it has a lot of the same names on it, is completely different from last years team.

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The Raiders continue to be the proverbial pile of shit from the sphincter of the football gods.

by CPT.Caveman on Sep 29, 2010 1:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

I believe the Broncos have the division hands down if they get the RedZone problems straightened out...

And I don’t think there is a reasonable fan anywhere who would argue with me…The broncos played “together” on defense for the first time in a while…I have missed that very much, and believe they are going to get better…Whoa! Bold talk for a one eyed fat man…

by bfree2bronc on Sep 28, 2010 9:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Arrowhead helps them for sure..

How could any self respecting Bronco fan ever say they think the Chiefs are good? If they beat the Colts and/or the Texans (there next 2 games both away). I still wouldn’t say they were any good.. ;-)

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by timmaybronco on Sep 28, 2010 10:46 PM MDT reply actions  

If we beat the Colts in 2 weeks lookout is all i can say.

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by CPT.Caveman on Sep 29, 2010 1:06 AM MDT reply actions  

Don't forget

Broncos went 6-0 last year and collapsed. Getting hott is one thing. Getting hott and staying hott consistently is totally different. You’re performance against the Browns was hardly what I would call hott. Kudos to you guys for spanking the 49ers, but I thought they were overrated since the beginning of the year anyway…

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by Nick Cast on Sep 29, 2010 1:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Some games are closer than others regardless of who the other team is

That’s how the NFL works. The Browns I think are a lot better then their record shows. Their special teams is probably the best the NFL granted they need work in the other areas.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 29, 2010 5:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

CPT....you are smarter than that. Calm down a bit. I am happy for you...some great improvements in your team...

But week 1 you cant judge ANYTHING off for ANY team. Total crap shoot who wins.
Week 2, the Chiefs just were not as terrible as the Browns.
Week 3 was a GOOD outing for you guys, and the Chiefs deserve kudos, but that was the most INEPT offensive performance I have seen from ANY NFL team from the 49ers.
I think you guys are better than expected, and thats awesome…but the real team (for all teams) will show itself after week 4.
Good news for you guys…I think you are better than the Bears, who are the LUCKIEST 3-0 team the NFL has ever seen.
You guys earned your wins, they have been gifted all 3 of theirs.

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by boydy2669 on Sep 29, 2010 6:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

I still think we are a 8=8 team, but if we do beat a team like the Colts who we all know is a play off team, our young team could start believing.

If we beat the Colts i give you the ok to tell me too calm down, because I’ll need it:P I’m just a little fired up right now, because the Chiefs are playing some pretty good football compared to what they have in the past 3 or 4 years. But i better not get to cocky because look at what the Broncos did last year, only to finish 2-8 the rest of the season, heartbreaking.

But i do think the reason the 49ers offense looked so bad was because of our defense,not that they just completely suck. But thanks for talking down off the Kool-aid high.

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by CPT.Caveman on Sep 29, 2010 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

I guess we will have to wait until week 8 to see if the 49's are that bad...

I hope you guys beat them after talking about how bad they are, because if not, what does that say…

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by SFLChief on Sep 29, 2010 7:21 AM MDT reply actions  

One game doesn't mean anything

any given sunday… yada yada…. any team can beat any other, and small sample size theater doesn’t impress me.

If SF has more than 6 wins on the season, I’ll be quite amazed. It will mean they are playing a hell of a lot better than they have the first 3 weeks. KC will in all likelihood have more wins than SF this year, even if you ignore the head-to-head game. You are a better team than they are. It doesn’t mean you or they are great, or even very good.

by cjfarls on Sep 29, 2010 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would have voted for not yet if it was an option...

We all remember going 6-0 and regressing quickly after a bye week. That’s always something to consider when asking if a team is for real or not…..the season is long….3 games is nowhere near enough games to make a valid assessment.

We of all people, know how hard it is to play in Arrowhead. That’s a distinct advantage. That Moeaki catch was one millimeter away from being an ugly overthrow. He made a crazy good catch, and I like that kid.

My second favorite team is the Chiefs, since I’ve lived in MO for the past 20+ years, and graduated HS in Blue Springs. I root for them unless they are playing us. I’m skeptical until they beat an above average team. Except for last week, the “big play” has won the game for the Chiefs this year. It’s hard to count on big plays happening consistently.

Props are deserved for the defensive improvement however. Crennel will definitely make a difference here. The jury is still out on the offense.

Holy cow, just think if you could combine the Chiefs running game, and our passing game……Unstoppable! LOL

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by Broncotodd on Sep 29, 2010 7:48 AM MDT reply actions  

I REALLY hope Broncos players aren't voting on that poll...

or about 75% of our team is going to get smashed by the Chiefs this year. I’m not happy about it, but they ARE for real. It doesn’t matter if it was pure luck they are still 3-0 while we’re sitting at 1-2. Do I have to quote a Vin Diesel character here people?? “It doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile… Winning is winning.” The Chifs ARE really for real.

We can’t assume any team isn’t competition in this league, ESPECIALLY a division rival. If our team thinks the Chiefs aren’t for real than they might as well be 1-4.

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by Alexander Wall on Sep 29, 2010 12:34 PM MDT reply actions  

This is a bit off

There have been a number of teams that can win 3 games in a row. We won 6 and were hardly “for real.” To say you know they are for real, I ask for evidence. I’m not saying we are better, that’s for another debate, but I want to see how. Their greatest strength is a good run game, Jones and Charles are great backs. They have the leading rushing attack in the league, but are ranked 29th in the passing game. They are ranked 25th against the pass, and 5th against the run. They are the exact opposite of us, and no one would call us for real. They have wins over two 0-3 teams and a win over a 1-2 team. So their opponents have a 1-8 record. Our opponents records are 6-3. We beat a 2-1 team, that’s more opponent wins then the Chiefs have in three wins.

I’m hoping the Chiefs do well, just not against us, but to say they are for real without any reason is crazy.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 29, 2010 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

The game isn't just offense and defense.

Where does special teams fit in?

Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.

by ArrowSpread on Sep 29, 2010 5:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

You're right

KC’s ST is pretty good, but unless you are Seattle, you aren’t likely to win many games with ST. KC is a good team, but till you fix some big problems, I don’t see them being successful beyond 9-7. I’m not saying we are any better, but there are a lot better, more well rounded teams with worse records.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 30, 2010 12:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Have you seen the Chiefs schedule?

All they have to do is finish 7-6 (one game better than .500) to have a 10-6 record. Against a very weak schedule (Indy & Hou upcoming being the toughest games) – no offense, (I usually consider division games a split until they aren’t)

by cpa913 on Sep 30, 2010 12:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

And I have no problem seeing them with a winning record

But do you feel talented enough to win a playoff game against one of the top teams in the NFC?

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 30, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Someone talking playoffs around here? Not me.

9-7 is a very successful season for us at this juncture.

As long as we can continue to pound the rock, defend the run, create pressure — which Crennel has done a fine job of, as has our developing talent — limit the penalties, shorten the field with special teams and win the turnover battle, we’ll be competitive in a lot of games and will be in positions to win games where we weren’t able to in the last few seasons.

I bolded that statement because I don’t think smart football doesn’t get recognized enough, and the Bears/Packers game is glaring proof that you can have a great quarterback and great defense and still choke to a seemingly overrated team from a lack of discipline and from putting the ball on the turf in crucial situations.

This is a well-coached football team we have, and we continue to do the things we’re doing, as I said, we will remain competitive in a lot of games where we may seem outmatched talent-wise.

Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.

by ArrowSpread on Sep 30, 2010 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

KC has wins over three teams that were favored

They were the underdog in ALL three games.

Week One, before the game – The Chargers are the class of the AFC West
                     after the game – Rain & luck propelled the Chiefs to victory
Week Two, before the game – Jerome Harrison set a single game rushing record against the Chiefs just last year, with Hillis, and a tough defense…
                     after the game – The Chiefs are winning in spite of their QB
Week Three, before the game – San Francisco almost beat the Superbowl Champs, the Chiefs have no chance
                      after the game – Chiefs opponents are 1-8, they haven’t played anybody.

What’s the excuse going to be when the Chiefs knock off Indy? I mean this is getting ridiculous.

by cpa913 on Sep 29, 2010 11:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

There won't be an excuse if the Chiefs beat Indy

I’m saying the teams you are beating aren’t good teams. Beating the Colts would prove you can beat a solid team. But beating a one dimensional, 1-2 Chargers, a very weak 0-3 Cleveland, and a overrated 0-3 SF team, isn’t something to be bragging about when you go play Indy.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

They are only 1-8 because KC gave them 3 losses

San Diego is not a good team?
I’ll give you Cleveland, it was the hangover game, and yet KC did not lose
San Francisco was supposed to win their Division, and just went toe to toe with the Superbowl Champions.

It’s not like KC has played the Bills every week!

by cpa913 on Sep 30, 2010 12:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

SF and SD we "supposed" to win the division

But that doesn’t always work out in actual football. SF isn’t playing like a good team, if anyone still thinks they will win the division, they are crazy. SD, along with Denver, has a great passing attack, their defense is very weak, and like our ST, they are very shaky. SD will only win the division is if KC slides and they manage to pull their usual December come back.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Sep 30, 2010 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Chargers are one-dimensional?

All the sudden Ryan Mathews, Sproles, and Tolbert are bad running backs? Interesting. And ranked 12th on the run, too. Pretty good for being one-dimensional.

We didn’t beat them because they couldn’t run. We beat them becasue they didn’t run the ball more — specifically in the red zone. But that’s a coaching problem. Gotta be able to make adjustments. We did, and they didn’t.

Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.

by ArrowSpread on Sep 30, 2010 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Among other things

Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.

by ArrowSpread on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

They are for real right NOW.

And in this league, NOW is all that matters. 3-0 is my evidence. They are a legitamate contender right now, and no opinions matter. Not yours, not mine; there is no evidence that counts in the end of the year besides the W/L record and right now they seem to be running with the best of them. That’s evidence enough for any team to take them seriously. Not doing so is foolish – but then so is not taking ANY team seriously. This league is to fluid to toss a team to the curb just because the have horrible coaching, no talent, or have finished in the bottom 5 for the past decade. It can all change in the blink of an eye.

I’m not trying to predict the future and say they are playoff bound. I was merely saying they are FOR REAL right NOW. Their W/L record shows that, and that’s all I care about. Cause that’s all that matters come Week 17. I just don’t see any reason to complicate it further.

Sure we could hash out this or that, but I barely have the time to do that concerning my beloved Broncos; there is absolutely no way the Chiefs warrant that kind of time or effort. As of now, they are for real. It’s my opinion, take it or leave it – but i’ll by no means try to convince you.

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