Denver Broncos 24, Minnesota Vikings 31: Game Recap and Analysis
The Denver Broncos had four turnovers on the road in their final pre-season game against the Minnesota Vikings, but a late comeback rally fell just short.
I attended this game being that Mall of America Field at the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome is about three and a half hours from my home, and I have to say, I was not impressed. Not that the "Dome" has ever been overly impressive to me, but my experience this time around was borderline horrific.
I was taunted all the way into the stadium, not a surprise there. I was wearing one of my Tim Tebow jerseys, so I deserved a bit of razzing on the way in. What I didn't expect was what would happen from halftime until the rest of the game. As I waited in line for a hot dog, a Vikings fan approached me and said, "Tebow sucks tonight!" He proceeded to slap my hand and punch me in the gut. Apparently the fans in Minnesota don't know boundaries.
As the second half wore on and Brady Quinn came into the game, Vikings fans behind my family and I were getting razzed again by fans, which I expected. What I didn't expect was the vulgarity that came along with it. Even with kids around, fans behind us joked about Tebow and Brett Favre engaging in otherwise inappropriate activity. At that point, I was simply disgusted and just tried to tune it out for the rest of the game.
The heckling continued into the parking lot and onto the bus. Needless to say, I will not be attending many, if any more games at the Metrodome. Not a good experience for an away fan. I thought the Broncos fans were very respectful to the Steeler fans at Sunday's game, so I guess I half expected other fan bases to act at least cordially.
Back to what matters, which was the game.
The Vikings didn't have their first string out on either offense or defense, but the Broncos' starters played a couple of series. LenDale White scored the lone first string touchdown, his second in as many weeks. I said it on Sunday, and I'll say it again tonight: LenDale is our short yardage back. He is a great weapon to have from two yards out, which we obviously have struggled with. He can punch it in when seemingly no one else can.
Turnovers killed our Broncos in this game. Tebow came in, and in what seemed to be a pattern, was fed a horrid snap. I don't recall off hand who the center was on the play, but it was a bad snap regardless. It bounced off of Tebow's hand all the way to middle linebacker Erin Henderson, and he took it for a score. I fully expected Tebow to bounce back on the next drive, but he came out and threw a pick. It was a massively underthrown ball, and it seemed Tebow wasn't himself for the first two drives.
A promising drive was then cut short when Marquez Branson fumbled a pass from Tebow and turned the ball over yet again. Not to be outdone though, Bruce Hall entered the game and fumbled on a rushing attempt. Four turnovers later, the Broncos and their fans were furious and in a rut.
After his interception, Tim Tebow really put it together, completing his next ten passes. His favorite target so far this pre-season has been Matt Willis, who was the recipient of a 39 yard bomb that was perfectly placed on his outside shoulder. Willis made a nice move near the goal line and got in for a score.
Brady Quinn threw a touchdown pass to Alric Arnett in the back corner of the end zone, right toward where I was sitting, and it was a beauty on both ends. Quinn made a perfect throw, and Arnett showed great awareness and athleticism, not only making the catch but getting both feet down in bounds.
Former Bronco Javon Walker somehow managed to get a 63 yard touchdown reception against Alphonso Smith, who tripped freeing up Walker to run all alone.
Matt Prater was money on a 49 yard field goal to finish the scoring for the Broncos, though they should have had more. Brady Quinn and the Broncos were set up with beautiful field position following a fumble recovery by the defense, and on fourth down from the 12 yard line, Riar Geer dropped a pass in which he was wide open and likely would have danced into the end zone for six points. A golden opportunity literally slipped through his hands and on to the turf.
Despite it being a loss, there was a lot of positive to be taken from this game for the Broncos. Just looking over the final statistics, it appears as though they should have actually won the game. The score is certainly not indicative of how this game went, but the NFL is what it is, and stuff happens. Turnovers absolutely killed the Broncos in this game, but they were able to rally and nearly make a comeback.
Top Performers
Backup Quarterbacks
Tim Tebow came in and started off really rough, unable to handle the first snap and then throwing a bad pick, but he rallied for ten straight complete passes and finished the game 12-of-16 for 167 yards, a touchdown, and an interception. He also had a couple of nice scrambles, and had 21 yards rushing.
In all, Tebow looked good this pre-season. He looked like a first round draft pick at times, and at times he showed his inexperience. I think John Bena put it best when he said roughly that the game is not too big for Tim Tebow, and I completely agree with him. I don't think it ever will. He had higher expectations than any rookie in the NFL because of the hype that comes along with him, and he proved a lot of people wrong who didn't think he could compete at this level.
Sam Bradford appears to be the more NFL ready of the top two rookie signal callers, but Tebow undoubtedly held his own, and this game was a great showcasing of his improvements over the offseason. He has shown a lot of zip on his passes, and for the most part has been very accurate.
Brady Quinn came into this game with low expectations by many accounts. He had been playing scared in the pre-season so far, or at least that's what it looked like. On Thursday night, he looked like a man that wanted to win. He had a chip on his shoulder, and it played a big part in his performance. Quinn showed a bit of indecisiveness on a couple of plays, but his accuracy was far better, he was making quick reads, and he has a favorite target.
Quinn completed eight of his 14 completions to rookie receiver Eric Decker, who also had a big night in front of his home crowd. I was really impressed with Quinn on the night, and his second two minute drive to potentially win/tie the game this pre-season was cut short by a perfect pass that was simply dropped by Riar Geer, a tight end who was trying to make the roster.
This is the quarterback play fans expected from the Broncos all along. Quinn and Tebow both appeared to be capable of playing if the need absolutely arises this year, though you hope for certain that nothing happens to Kyle Orton, who also had a very good pre-season.
11 different Broncos caught passes tonight, so these guys are really spreading the ball around.
Matthew Willis and Eric Decker
If there was a question prior to this game as to whether or not Matthew Willis would make this team, it should be immediately erased. This kid can play. He caught a very tough deep pass from Tebow down the left sideline where he leaped over a defender to haul it in, and he also caught an over the shoulder deep ball and made a nifty move to get the ball across the goal line for a touchdown.
Willis finished the game with five receptions for 122 yards and a touchdown, and he also finished the pre-season as the Broncos' leading receiver. He has consistently displayed big play ability, averaging over 17 yards a catch coming into the game. If Willis didn't earn a roster spot this offseason, than no one deserves one. He has played great, and should be rewarded with a job on this team.
Decker was equally as impressive. He caught 10 passes for 114 yards in front of his home crowd, and proved to be a very consistent and reliable target. I thought Decker displayed first round talent at Minnesota, and he showed me why tonight. Granted, he was playing against guys he would have torched last year at the collegiate level, but it is what it is. He is going to be hard to keep off the field, and should be the Broncos' primary possession receiver as time goes on. I am really impressed with him.
Defense
Yes, we allowed 31 points, but the defense was suffocating for the most part tonight, and they did it without a single sack. The Vikings' top rusher was their fourth string quarterback, who had 48 yards Mike Vick style. Albert Young had the bulk of carries, and averaged just three yards per touch.
The defense forced two turnovers, as well as five punts from Chris Kluwe. It seemed like the only bright spot for the Vikings' offense was the broken play. They had a scramble for big yardage, and a 63 yard touchdown pass that was the result of our cornerback tripping. Needless to say, I was impressed by the defensive effort tonight. The Vikings had to scratch and claw for every yard. It was a welcome sight, to be sure.
Kevin Alexander and Alric Arnett
Major kudos to these young rookies making big plays in their final pre-season games. After Alphonso Smith's penalty late in the fouth quarter, all hope appeared to be lost for the Broncos. That is, until Alexander knocked the ball lose on the next play and gave the Broncos another shot to tie the game up.
Those kinds of plays are inspiring for fans. Don't quit until that fat Viking lady sings, Kevin. Way to go!
Arnett made a fantastic catch in the back of the end zone on a pass from Brady Quinn. Not only was it an acrobatic catch, it was a toe-tapper as well. Those kinds of plays will get you noticed. Arnett and Alexander both deserve a year of grooming on the practice squad.
Alphonso Smith
Yes, he is making this list. Smith is, as John put it, an enigma so far this pre-season, and this game was no different. Smith had an interception that nearly went for a touchdown (but resulted in zero points because of poor reserve line play), and he also had a fumble recovery and some solid plays in coverage. On the other side, he had a penalty that might have cost the Broncos a chance at tying the game, and he was the victim of the Turf Monster, tripping seemingly over his own two feet on a play that resulted in a 63 yard touchdown.
I am in the camp that has been impressed with Smith's desire to improve this offseason, and I think he's translated it to the field at certain times. He's made some bad plays, but he's also made some good. I think he flashed enough ability tonight to warrant a roster spot, though that was never in doubt in my mind anyway. Some people feel otherwise.
Not So Impressed
Riar Geer
Sorry Riar, I hate to do it. Geer's dropped pass at the end of the game is the kind of play that absolutely sicekns me. I feel for the guy, because we're all human. For an aspiring NFL player though, that type of thing is absolutely unacceptable. Brady Quinn should be getting more praise than he is right now simply because of this one play. It would have likely been Quinn's second touchdown pass on the night, and would have given the Broncos a chance to tie the game. Like I said in the preview, winning doesn't count, but it matters to these players.
Geer has been talked up as a guy who was a receiving specialist in college, and there's no disputing that. For the Broncos, he has done little to nothing in the receiving game. It's disappointing, but he likely will not be on an NFL roster this year.
Reserve Offensive Line
These guys cannot run block. Period. I did not see a good hole for Bruce Hall all night long, and even when he made it through, the guy fumbled the football. They appeared to progress in pass protection as the game went on, but the run blocking made me sick. Multiple fourth down plays that would have been otherwise simple to convert appeared as though the Vikings had inside access to our play calling.
Hall had nowhere to run all night, and the backup offensive linemen should be ashamed in their performance for the running backs. I can't say they had a good showing simply because of their pass protection, which was actually pretty good. It makes me wonder if Josh McDaniels and the front office are scouting any run block specialists for the offensive line. Obviously, this is a pass first team, but you've got to be able to run the ball. The Broncos, so far, cannot. Perhaps Knowshon Moreno will help out a bit.
Tim Tebow also had to reach for a few of Eric Olsen's snaps when they went into the gun. I was getting pretty annoyed with that, though it improved over the course of the game.
Fumbling
There is nothing I hate to see more than fumbling, and we did it three times. First on a bad snap, then on a pass that should have been for a first down in the red zone, and then on a routine running play. I absolutely despise it.
Marquez Branson, Bruce Hall, and Tim Tebow were all charged with fumbles. Young players--those kinds of things will get you booed off the field and a butt imprint on the bench. I'm not trying to say fumbles don't happen, but three out of four possessions is enough to make even the opposing fans sick.
Like I said, there wasn't a ton of negative from this game for the Broncos aside from the four turnovers. They played good football, especially on the defensive side of the ball, and appear to have a three-headed monster at the quarterback position. All three of the Broncos' signal callers played well on Thursday night, and the defense appeared to have grown some teeth and a mean streak.
The Broncos are set to take on Jacksonville next Sunday, and I expect them to be a bit rusty with so many players just coming off of injury. If they can put it together in a week and a half, I think they should be the favorites going into the Jacksonville game.
Yet another season of Broncos football is about to begin, and I could not be more excited.
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also Smith had that hard tackle ..
When Dixon broke contain and headed for our endzone, it was Alphonzo who slipped the block of the wide reciever on the paly and made the tackle on Dixon. It saved the touchdown.. or delayed it. And it was a hello of an individual play.
The Phonz does have the potential and his slip was beyond camera range, well almost. Enough that I could not see what caused it. I douldn’t tell if he tripped on the grass or got his feet tied up with Walker’s.
"My team's on the floor"
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From a replay
It appeared that when he came out of his backpeddal, he and Walker tangled feet and he went down. They sort of tripped each other, and the receiver was able to keep going (mainly since he wasn’t trying to turn 180 degrees in the process). It happens sometimes, and it looked like he had put himself in good position until he fell.
What I want to know is, where the hell was the safety help? There was nobody around that I could see.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 3, 2010 4:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Walker even gave Smith a little push as he went by but it was the feet getting tangled that caused him to go down
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- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
nitpick alert:
Webb, not Dixon…
A man can fail, but he is not a failure until he blames someone else. - J. Paul Getty
by SteveAssassin on Sep 3, 2010 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Credit Javon on this one
As he’s running down the field and Zo is coming out of his backpedal, Walker cuts to the outside while giving Zo’s jersey a tug to the inside. This seems to take Zo by surprise. Simultaneously, Walker’s feet clip Zo’s and down goes Zo.
Just a nice play by Walker, who did exactly what he needed to do to get open.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2010 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep
Willis did much the same thing on his TD- excellent little tug to give himself that separation from the DB.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2010 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Viking fandom...
Don’t be a pushover, i lived in MN for 8 years and grew up in Europe, never had a problem at games. Now im in NY and still don’t, kids or no kids if they say something, say it back. At worst you will be on Eyewitness news. lol.
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by BosnianBronco on Sep 3, 2010 1:25 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Viking slugger a pussy
That guy that slugged you is such a pussy. Its easy to start crap when you’re surrounded by fellow Viking fans – if you’d reacted to him you’d have been in trouble, and he’d have had support all around him. Big man, sheah right. You showed sense and balls. Fortunately visiting fans in Denver dont get treated like that.
Why have i got that old Kenny Rogers song Coward of the County going round in my head!!!
Good write up again Sayre. Thanks.
by mark eaton on Sep 3, 2010 2:53 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
with seemingly
only one SLIGHT exception…though I would still agree with you entirely, but I’ve worked security for a couple Denver games, and our fans may not START stuff in Denver…but some of us don’t turn the other cheek HAHAHA. Had to break up MANY fights at an Den v. Oak game at invesco back in 2003.
Man a love watchin raiders fans get stomped in the bleachers……………er….I mean thats so uncalled for!!!
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
Damn it
I hate being proved wrong by accurate first person eye witness accounts!
Evicted from my ivory tower
by mark eaton on Sep 3, 2010 9:34 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
In your defense that was oakland
We all know the steal candies from babies and start random fights where ever they go.
I was up in viking land for this game and from what i understand mins second string d line is better than a lot of teams firsts… so that will help to explain our reserve o lines schooling, although i would feel more comfortable if our reserves were the starting caliber ones. As i knew i would be i’m extremely impressed with Decker and happy with our back up Q’s. Your from SD like I am so i’m surprised you weren’t prepared for the redneck trash viqueen fans, sorry they ruined the game for you.
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by JALefor on Sep 3, 2010 6:00 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
You got some moxie, Sayre
I feel your pain, but good for you. Wear the jersey and show some class. Some stadiums you know going in that rooting for the visiting team will draw a bad reaction, even if you are not wearing a jersey. Baltimore is an intimidating stadium and the stadium officials play it up like no other stadium I know. The fans there will taunt you if you root for the visiting team, even more if you are wearing a visiting team’s jersey, but I never saw things get physical. Credit to Ravens fans. I have only heard that Philadelphia is not a place to wear a visiting team jersey. I would not have expected Minnesota to be so bad. File a police report. Maybe it was caught on camera.
agreed on Baltimore
I went to the game last year wearing a Broncos jersey and cheering fairly loudly and I got a few heckles, but everything was very respectful for the most part from the Ravens fans.
They have a video clip they play at the beginning of every game at M&T that says something like “have fun, cheer loud, and DON’T BE A JERK!”
haha Raven's fans....
OVERALL I would say a classy group with minimal to mid levels of simple heckling,
But I did get approached, (I drove up from Va to attend the game solo last year in my baily jersey) by 5 guys who certainly took some menacing steps towards me when I didn’t back down to their heckling HAHA.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
you heading back up for this year's game?
I’m thinking about going again myself but don’t have tickets yet
If I can find a ride,
then I will DEFINITELY be there. I drove up and scalped tickets last year…..
unfortunately I discovered that the po-po don’t like it when you embibe and drive.
therefore my driving is limited to work.
but if you are in the area and offer a lift, I’m always good for some gas money and company!
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
Sorry to hear about the game Sayre
I hate when fans act like jackasses. It takes a big man to confront someone out with his family. Living near Detroit Ive seen some crazy stuff here.
I was wondering, as good as the Vikings Dline reserves are, any chance Denver could look at bringing one of them when they’re cut? Even during the telecast the Vikings play by play men made a comment that most reserves on the Vikings could start on a majority of teams. Denver could certainly use some upgrades even at the depth positions.
You probably get this a lot. This isn't the real Caesar's Palace is it?....Did Caesar live here?
You know where I wanna go? I'll tell you where. Someplace warm. A place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talking about a little place called Aspen
Problem is...
The Vikes’ D line scheme is totally different from the Broncos’. They may not make the transition to the 3-4 very well.
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
It is interesting you point out how bad the fans were to you — on the local broadcast here in CO, the announcers were talking about how nice everyone was and how great of an experience they were having.
Heard the same thing,
but as much as I hate to admitt it I’ve seen some Bronco fans do the same to fans of opposing teams. Unfortunately there are bad apples in every barrel.
I guess what annoyed me about A. Smith
was on the interception he began to slow down and start to show boat and almost had the ball ripped from him, for a guy in serious jeopardy of getting cut, my feeling is you better worry about finishing the damn play than trying to do a dance before you reach the end-zone, again continued mental lapses shows me he has no real future in the league.
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I didn't get that same impression at all
They showed the replay several times and I didn’t see any showboating, IMO. The announcers noticed some slowing down, but talked about how Smith had a leg injury earlier in the game and may have slowed down at the end of the run as a result. He put the ball out, but it was away from the tackler and, again IMO, was only because he was trying to get some more yards as he was nearing the goal line.
That was my take on it. We just saw it differently, I guess.
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I didn't get that impression at all either
The only reason he got caught at all was b/c that QB of their’s is a remarkably freakesh athlete. Pretty much any other QB and Alphonso scores.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
You are a good man Sayre.
The last game I went to was the last game I will ever go to. It’s crap like that that will keep me away from NFL games. It costs too much mfn money to have to be subjected to that. I’m 41 years old and don’t want to have to deal with a stupid, drunk, mfn juvenile.
You guys can go to all the games you want. I am done with it. I am very, very happy with my 50inch plasma, hi-def dvr, kick-ass surround sound, direct tv, no line to the bathroom, no line to my refrigerator that contains my inexpensive beer. On top of that, if I don’t feel like getting filled up on beer, I’ll crack open my bottle of vodka and have a few refreshing cocktails. Last I checked they weren’t serving that at the stadiums.
I can not think of a single reason to ever go to a game again. Can anyone help me out on this?
What a drag it is getting old. - Mick
I have politely declined season ticket seats a few times because I prefer the comfort [and warmth] of my home.
I like being able to rewind plays after they happen to see blocking assignments, coverage, etc. I like to be able to be with my wife/daughter [if they bless me with their prescence while it is on]. I like making my own super nachos and drinking my rum/coke or vodka tonic.
by Todd Jewell on Sep 3, 2010 7:49 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice..
just got a great gameday picture in my head..
A man can fail, but he is not a failure until he blames someone else. - J. Paul Getty
by SteveAssassin on Sep 3, 2010 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't know about invesco because
its been so long since I went,
But in the Logue section (just under club) at FedEx stadium I met a bartender who decided my vodka cranberries should be “Vodka…….where’s the F’n Cranberry” s. Great times, course being sick and drinking, and being a rainy game I did take a nap in the 3rd quarter HAHA
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
Is that a reason to go to a game?
That doesn’t do it for me. Because the douche 10 rows back is throwing peanuts and bottle caps at my head and calling me bad names because I’m wearing an Elway jersey. Thanks but no thanks.
What a drag it is getting old. - Mick
It's a total different experience at home games
I would say just the energy and excitement of being there makes it a bit better. There’s nothing like 80,000 screaming fans in 1 building. I’m cool with watching 14 0r 15 games a year from the comfort of my own home but I still have to make the trip once or twice a year to watch my Broncos live.
I have tickets to the home opener against the Seachickens and tickets to week 10 against the Chiefs. I cannot wait :-)
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
I hear ya but...
been there done that. It ain’t all that. Of course it’s better wearing my Elway jersey in Denver. I’ve made the trip six or seven times. I live in Virginia so I have been to DC, Baltimore, Philly, and Carolina. I think it is ridiculous that I have to deal with so much shit simply because I wear my Elway jersey. My friends try to explain that I’m asking for it. NO! I call BULL****!!! That’s unacceptable. I’m asking to watch my favorite football team play a mf football game. I want to wear my jersey to honor my favorite Bronco of all time. Hell, where else am I going to where the frikin thing? Why should I or anyone have to tolerate being called names and having stuff thrown at them because of the shirt they wear. Where else in the mf world do you pay to be treated this way???!!! I refuse to spend my hard earned money that way.
What a drag it is getting old. - Mick
Definitely understand that.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
- Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
Great Review Sayre
Sorry about the boorish Vi-queens fans. They had a lot more class when they played outdoors in the olden days. The cuts Josh has to make won’t be that hard now. The Olsen twins looked horrible. And the backup D-line not much better.
by John in Castle Rock on Sep 3, 2010 7:49 AM MDT reply actions
Yeah
Olsen (69) REALLY sucked. 61 also sucked- anyone know who 61 one is?
Those 2 guys were mostly responsible for the failed 4th down attempt at the TD. 69 entirely whiffed on his block (which wasn’t the first or the last whiff) and the guy directly in front of him made first contact on the tackle. 61 dove at somebody’s feet with his head down. He may have slowed his guy for a quarter of a second. This too, was not his only horrible play.
69 and 61 should get cut today.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions
61 Paul Duncan 69 Eric Olsen
Duncan – rookie out of Notre Dame
TIME TO BELIEVE. BRONCO Champions are being forged as we speak
Thanks
Guess we’ll see- practice squad or flat cut is my prediction for both of those guys. They aren’t ready.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2010 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions
sayre I was at the game too
I thought the fans were as obnoxious as any I’ve been around. Luckily I got to move down to the sideline. I think that had this not been a preseason game we would have beaten them. You could teel from the play calling that the he was testing the players to see who would respond.
We certainly would have kicked those field goals. It think we would have passed more too.
by Fan in Exile on Sep 3, 2010 8:04 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Interestingly...
I live in Philly and I was at the Den/Phi game last season with a Broncos jersey (though it was Dawkins)….but even fans that couldn’t see it was a Dawk jersey (when I had a jacket on or was sitting down) weren’t that bad at all.
I was expecting MUCH worse at the Link, but it sounds like your experience was FAR worse than mine was in Philly – not sure what that says about Minny fans…
A man can fail, but he is not a failure until he blames someone else. - J. Paul Getty
Smith is no enigma and the offensive line
It makes me chuckle how people around here salivate, like Pavlov’s dog, at the opportunity to criticize the o-line but treat the phonz with kid gloves. Smith’s play has been incredibly inconsistent. To grade him the way the o-line is graded around here would bring him under sharp criticism. But, but…he has flashed. Well, guess what, the lineman who get criticized flash too, but for them consistence is demanded around here not just flashes. Why shouldn’t the phonz be held to the same standard?
This brings me to a second point, the o-line got hosed. The vikings defense line was jumping the snap count all night, hell even the viking fan announcers were commenting on it. This is the quarterback’s FAULT!. I have coached at the high school level and below, the last coaching stint was when I was coaching for my son’s pee-wee football team. We used the snap count 2-3 times a game to remarkable effect to, not only get 5 yards, but more importantly to slow the defensive front down. This was 5-6 graders. Tebow and Quin need to pull their head’s out of their asses and go on a hard count to slow the defensive line down. People, one of the main advantages the o-line has is the snap count, and if they defense gets to jump the snap blocking really sucks. I know this both as a player and coach.
Multiple fourth down plays that would have been otherwise simple to convert appeared as though the Vikings had inside access to our play calling.
Not sure who was in at the time at center, but Mike Mayock kept saying that the Vikes defenders had identified and were keying off his head bob to know when the ball was about to be snapped. Can anyone clarify this?
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
If we're talking about the failed 4th down attempt at the TD
It was 69, Olsen. He simply sucked last night.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2010 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions
And thanks for your efforts, Sayre!!
They may not appreciate you in Minnesota, but you’re appreciated in Montana! : )
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
FTW
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."
Nice write up Sayre
Wish I could have watched the game live instead of following a feed that froze every 4-5 minutes.
You’ve restored some faith, my friend. I was feeling pretty pessimistic following the game & you’ve added a spotlight filled with hope. Thanks.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
Replay
I had that problem with video feeds on the internet for an earlier game outside of the Colorado area, but thankfully NFL net has replays of all preseason games. Denver is on at 1 pm MT today. I am recording it for later viewing because I missed it too.
Nice
Are you sure you didn’t make a wrong turn and in up at the Oakland penitentiary. That so sounds like Faider fan. In my case one of the Faider inmates got into my 8 year olds grill at a Monday night game. There are these type of idiots everywhere but Chaokland has the most by far.
Excellent piece, Sayre, and rec'd, BUT . . .
just a couple things. They replayed fumbled snap up close several times, and even the color man commented he didn’t see anything wrong with the snap itself. That appeared to be on Tebow.
Also, Phonz appeared to get his feet tangled up with Walker’s. He didn’t trip over his own two feet. Walker tripped him (unintentionally, of course). That can happen, and has before. In all, I thought Alphonso had a good game – we have to remember that the player he was on most of the time was Javon Walker. It can’t be lost on us that Walker was considered one of the elite receivers in the game, and there is no reason to believe he doesn’t still have his physical skills. (What happened to Walker was between the ears.)
Nonetheless, you provided insight I otherwise would not have had on the game. Kudos and thanks.
BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!
I watched that snap like 15 times
And I still don’t know what happened exactly. It seemed like Walton may have snapped the ball early, because Tebow’s hands just weren’t in a spot to take the snap. Walton snaps it up towards his butt, and next thing you know it’s bouncing straight outwards. It’s a really strange play.
And you’re right on the Walker TD. Walker made a cut to the outside that seemed to surprise Zo, while tugging just a bit on Zo’s jersey to the inside. At the same time, while Walker is making his move to the outside, his feet whack Zo’s and down he went. Nice play by Walker.
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2010 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Surprised teh fumble didn't happen last week
Tebow was double-clutching the snap quite a bit in the Pittsburg game, too. It surprises me how much he needs to grow in taking the snap from under center.
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
I guess it's not unexpected
Since this was one of the major question marks about the guy- can he take a snap?
Yeah he can- mostly anyway. ;)
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2010 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Weird thing about that fumble
The oddest thing about it was the trajectory it took. Did someone kick it forward or something? I was wondering if McDaniels could have challenged it as an incomplete forward pass. lol.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 3, 2010 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions
No nobody kicked it
It just bounced straight outwards. It’s almost like Walton bounced it off his package, lol
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 3, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions
I like that - "Zo"
I didn’t know anything to call him for a nickname, so it has been “Phonz.” But after all those years of “Happy Days,” that moniker is a legend – almost sacred. Besides, “Zo” would be alllll Alphonso’s.
Yeah . . . I like that . . .
BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!
Have Broncs Announced 2nd String QB yet?
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Sorry to hear about your experience Sayre
We had exactly the opposite experience. My family of 6, fully decked out in Bronco gear, me in my Elway throwback got a little ribbing, but it was good-natured across the board, everyone laughing. I got one guy driving by in a car hanging his head out the window stuttering out a “Boo, Broncos” and I started laughing when the guy behind me, a Vikings fan, yells out to the guy, “C’mon man! Spit it out!” Then he and I shared a laugh. I asked a few fans about their thoughts on Gerhart, told them some of us Bronco fans wanted him and had some good conversation about that. There was one instance of the anti-fan, you know, the guy who barely knows the starters on “his team”, but likes to jab anyone on the other team? He made a “Thanks Tebow! ha ha” call on the fumble return, but that was a bad as it got. I razzed a couple guys behind me about their singing voices during the “Skol Vikings” tune and they shot back that’s what preseason is for, warming up their singing voices.
All in all it was a great experience for us, walking to and from the stadium and at the game itself. I definitely would not chalk it up to “Their fans suck, ours are much better.” I’d be willing to bet my house there are more than enough anti-fans than I care to meet at Mile-High. In general, Vikes fans are pretty fair-weather and the weather is good right now, but Minnesotans are by and large decent people.
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
Bummer on some fan's experiences
Sayre, sorry to hear your out-of-town fan experience went beyond heckling into the inappropriate. I received some serious heckling, but it was of the good natured type and exactly what I have personally dished out to out-oof-town fans at MileHigh. If you go to another team’s house that is to be expected and perfectly appropriate. Fan around our seats where pretty rowdy, but top their credit the guys right behind us were cursing up a storm and when I turned around and pointed out there were a lot of young kids around and asked them to tone it down a bit, they were polite (surprisingly) and did so without even mouthing off to me as an out of town fan.
Not to excuse the inescusable, but it seemed that Tebow jerseys were a catalyst for increased heckling. I didn’t get nearly as much verbal grief in my old Eddie Mac jersey than those with Tebow gear. Maybe guys though I had a Decker jersey, but really I don’t think MN fans are that sophisticated. Nobody cheered his first catch until they announced his name on the PA.
Probably the thing abou the fans that frustrated me most was fan viewing etiquette. Multiple ppl trying to push into the seats during important plays. I told a few ppl to wait for the end of the play. Never saw that in all my days at mile high. I remember ppl climbing the stairs turning around to sit down as the lines would set for the next play.
THE OL Shuffle
McDaniels and the coaching staff rotated just about everyone into the OL. So I as a fan was frustrated with the poor OLine play. But it was pre-season and McD wanted to see who could play “out of normal Position” on the Oline. I think McD was really trying to see which players could play a new position so to speak in a short notice situation (game injury).
I think there will be a few surprises on the Oline roster. Most of us believe that there will be 9 OL on the roster, but I think there may only be 8 on the roster if Clady & Harris are healthy to start game one on JAX.
TIME TO BELIEVE. BRONCO Champions are being forged as we speak
So basically, our original concerns of the trenches still stands…O-line and D-line. Rushing, both Off and Def, will determine our ability to find a way to make the playoffs.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
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by Orange and Blue on Sep 3, 2010 10:25 AM MDT reply actions
Crappy fans
That is too bad Sayre, even Charger fans were decent to me when I went to Shanny’s last game. We were getting crushed, and they were still being nice. To hear Vikings fans are like that after the CBS4 guys said the people in the area were so nice is really sad, but good to know.
As much as I am glad we took Tebow, the Broncos did paint a target on themselves.
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RIP Mitch H.

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