2010 NFL Cutdown Day Open Thread #1
by John Bena on Sep 3, 2010 12:41 PM MDT
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PrintWe'll move this post around as the names of those released begin to filter in. If the comments add up to necessitate a new thread, I'll start one.
Here are the names of the Denver Broncos that have reportedly been cut:
CUT
DT Chris Baker
LB Jammie Kirlew
TE Kory Sperry
TE Nate Overbay
OL Paul Duncan
LB Johnny Williams
WR Alric Arnett
INJURED RESERVE
RB LenDale White
OLB Elvis Dumervil
After today's moves, the Broncos stand at 64 players. They need to be at 53-man limit by 5:00pm MT on Saturday.
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Big Questions
The three biggest question marks in my mind are Brandon Stokley, Nate Jones, and Alphonso Smith. If they do get cut, I’m guessing that it won’t be until tomorrow.
http://www.BroncosNews.com
The guys...
who won’t get named until tomorrow are usually guys the team wants to put on the PS. If it is a vet, like Stokley for instance, no need to wait. The only caveat is a move made in reaction to a cut another team made.
Say, for instance, the Broncos decided to keep a player named Jim Smith. That is, until a team cut a player that the Broncos thought was better than Jim Smith. You could see a late cut in reaction to another team’s move in order to put a claim in on that player…
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I thought it was the other way around John...
The guys cut first are the guys we want to move to the PS…
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Agreed
I believe that the waiver clock starts counting down as soon as they are cut. Hence, the players cut today will actually be available for PS signing a day ahead of the rest of the cuts on Saturday. And by cutting today McD/X try to sneak these players into the mix when others teams are too busy with their own cuts to take good notice of what is happening with the 31 other teams.
I could see 4 from the above being put on PS – Baker, Kirlew, Sperry, Arnet
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then again, releasing earlier may be a way to tempt other teams to go after those guys. I dunno...
if they’re all cut on the same day why does it matter? lmao
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CORRECTED INFO on 24 hour waiver period
8-man Practice Squad:
After all teams have set their 53-man rosters prior to opening day and each team has passed 24-hours on acquiring the contracts of every other player waived by the other 31 NFL teams, each team may sign up to 8 players to occupy its developmental Practice Squad.
PRACTICE SQUAD players can not be signed before Sunday/
TIME TO BELIEVE. BRONCO Champions are being forged as we speak
I sure don't understand all the "hate" directed at Alphonso Smith.
I guess it must be because McDaniels used a (future) first round pick on getting him in the second round. With that background, there are a number of people who would only accept the Smith pick as sound if he were to perform -not merely as a first rounder, but BETTER than a first round pick. How the hell do you perform better than a first round pick? It cannot be done. Consequently, Smith is screwed. Unless he was to be an instant superstar, he is automatically deemed a failure in the opinions of many. He actually played pretty decent for a rookie last year but he has remained the scorn of multitudes in this preseason as well. In two of the games (Cindy and Vikes), he was actually team leader in tackles. It doesn’t matter. His every effort continues to be belittled because of past draft circumstances he had no influence on. Fortuitously, there is NO WAY he will be cut (and that has nothing to do with McDaniels not wanting to admit a mistake as has been suggested in certain quarters).
by warmick on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions 9 recs
Thanks God Warnick...GREAT post. Its one of the reasons I seldom post anymore....
The hate and ridicule for certain players by some members here is beyond a joke. It makes no sense. I WILL give kudos to McG who has mellowed on the calls to gut and quarter Smith. He has been pretty reasonable of late. But man…..what is up with the hate for OUR Bronco players. People need to settle the F&*K down!
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by boydy2669 on Sep 3, 2010 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
Would you gentlemen like some cheese with that???
Seriously…Bronco the heck up guys. Not everyone agrees with you and that is O. K.
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Right back at ya man...beacause we dont agree Smith sucks does not mean we are whiners bro!
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Wow....
I was roundly criticized when I suggested Chris Baker was not the solution. I’ll be waiting for the apologies. Crickets…………………………..
by swg777 on Sep 3, 2010 12:49 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Umm, sorry?
Not sure if I actually criticized, but I did think Baker would make it into the rotation this year.
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I don’t think I criticized you, however I did think he would make the team. With the age of Jamal and having the gun toter as his backup, I felt we had to keep him. Hopefully they have their eyes on someone else, which would be just fine with me. I just want some sort of youth in that position as a backup.
I would rather keep Baker
Than LeKevin Smith. But I guess he just didn’t up his strength.
lol - agreed
I was saying last night he needed to be cut and people got all up in arms
That's the problem with being a fan
Just because your team picks the guy somehow elevates him to the next great “whatever”, insert name here. Wasn’t a fan of Baker but thought good value as an undrafted FA.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 3, 2010 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Nope, I'm not sorry for hoping he'd pan out
Not even remotely, given how bad our line was looking in 08. Hope was nearly all we had.
But if they let him go, they must be confident in the depth in front of him. Maybe he’ll make the practice squad. Maybe not. But ultimately I trust team McX to evaluate talent, especially what we’ve seen from them in free agency and this year’s draft.
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by broncosmontana on Sep 3, 2010 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Baker is a huge disappointment.
I’d hoped he would take some strides this offseason, but he showed nothing in the preseason. Hopefully he’ll clear waivers and we can stick him on the PS.
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that's it
My advocacy for or against a particular player has a lifetime of about 3 seconds. Baker showed something in last year’s final pre-season game but showed nothing this pre-season. I had advocated for keeping Baker up prior to shortly before the last game, because of the importance of depth at NT. My support for him weakened in response to the counterargument that other DLs could play NT. And it weakened even further while watching his lack of contribution against Minnesota.
Roster projections are transient things, and players’ stock often rises or falls faster than the time it takes to write about the subject. In other words, every performance counts. Baker could have earned a spot with a stellar final game — but he didn’t perform.
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by Colinski on Sep 3, 2010 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course every performance counts but
a comprehensive evaluation of a player, which is the goal, comes down to more than a mediocre game against the Vikings. I don’t think a player’s evaluation, certainly by the Broncos coaching staff, is nearly as fundamentally fickle as you portray.
Chris Baker did not hit the weight room to get stronger in the upper body.
He just showed no strength at attacking or even holding the gap. We will see if Wayne (Nunnley DL coach) see’s any value by putting him on PS.
Huge disappointment?
How huge of a disappointment can it be when a CFA gets cut? A disappointment sure, but huge?
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Oh, that kind of huge :-)
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Phonz getting cut would qualify as a huge disappointment
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From Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post
Players cut Jammie Kirlew, Kory Sperry, Nate Overbay, Paul Duncan, Johnny Williams, Alric Arnett. LenDale officially to IR.
http://www.BroncosNews.com
Kind of sad to see Arnett go
He wasn’t perfectly consistent, but he did have some nice plays.
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I think it was more how many WR's we had then him playing bad
Someone will pick him up I bet or he’ll definitly get a shot next year
We're a long way off from Todd DeVoe, aren't we?
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The fact that not you nor many people get this reference speaks volumes
Basically our WR depth in 2005 was Ashley Lelie, Rod Smith and then nobody but people like Todd Devoe. Now we have to think about cutting the great Stokes. Be a tough decision.
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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
WhenI first read that I though you were talking about the guy from Bell Biv Devo
I checked out the 2005 roster on wikipedia and your not exagerating. smith, lelie, and a collection of shanahan’s WR misses.
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by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 3, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
LMAO
Bell Biv Devo… nice!!!
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by broncosmontana on Sep 3, 2010 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions
How many teams with a QB who had a 700 yard drop off and only 18 TD's
go to the AFC Championship? Speaks volumes of that D and run game. Great year to be a Broncos fan although a pretty dissapointing finish
Weirdly, some commenter on the Giants blog suggested
trading with Broncos for CB, sending them a backup WR because “Broncos lack wide receiver depth” Lol. I actually subscribed to that blog just so I could (politely) respond to that.
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But I have lived in NJ all my life so getting information on depth players was hard to come by before web sites like this
13-3 bud!
I was JK but Devoe was nothing to remember.
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Oh, don't get me wrong
I remember that season, but honestly I don’t remember all our depth back then because other than prime time games back then I didn’t see the games. MHR wasn’t existent then, so how was I to know… I had no KK camp reports! Honestly, if this season were happening in 05 I wouldn’t know guys like Willis and Lloyd and others
And I realize you weren’t attacking me, but for all my out of town fans, especially around my age, guys like this weren’t really known, where as through MHR and over 100 other blogs you can find out every little detail of every player now. Different times for sports now a days and it makes it even more enjoyable and even more apart of the everday fan’s life
by DBroncs1414 on Sep 3, 2010 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
i see Hartwig cut from steelers
Any sense to trying to grab him for a year and give Walton time? I think Walton’s done well, but the running game has been pretty indicative of an inexperienced interior line.
Won't happen cause he's allowed to seek a trade
Didn’t see that part
Hartwig would be a great pick up....insurance please!
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The Eagles Cut...
JJ Arrington.
So PHI now gets a pick from us in 2012, right?
Hell yeah
Great trade. We could even get Arrington back.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
I would give up a 5th for Joe Mays
maybe even a 4th.
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no, he's totally worth a first in next years draft
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It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
What happened to Baker?
I mean, I know he underperformed this year, but does anyone know why? I know he was injured was that why?
And no surprise on Paul Duncan, Im an ND fan and know he sucked
I surmise he never developed into what the coaches hoped he would develop into
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O well that sucks
Whatever. We still have decent depth there and have time before we look for a NT for the future
it's a shame
I thought we had a great value pick in that guy, and he was so intent on making good after the whole nightmare at Penn St. I was rooting for him hard.
But ultimately, if you don’t stand out as a UFA, you don’t make the team. Period.
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by broncosmontana on Sep 3, 2010 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions
What’s stupid about trading a player that was not going to make the roster for a future 6th round pick?
his knees are like an old bar stool (creaky).
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by Orange and Blue on Sep 3, 2010 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions
he's still young though...
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Didn't Ladell Betts turn down our offer to give him a workout?
I think there was some interest from Denver before he signed with the Saints, but he wasn’t interested in the Broncos.
lol
he might be now. ^^
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by broncosmontana on Sep 3, 2010 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Baker will be on a plane to Buffalo by day’s end.
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by Orange and Blue on Sep 3, 2010 12:56 PM MDT reply actions
PostBroncos
#Broncos Blog: LenDale White will still serve suspension in ‘10 http://dpo.st/c1p38a
Interesting.
Nice to see they aren’t pushing that into 2011. If there is even going to be a 2011.
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by broncosmontana on Sep 3, 2010 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions
there have to be 20+ players cut. They probably want him on PS, so might not cut him until tomorrow.
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So who makes PS?
Assuming these guys will get cut, here’s how I see it.
Worrell Williams
Jeff Stehle
Cassius Vaughn
Kyle McCarthy
Britt Davis
Riar Geer
A RB from somewhere else
Eric Olsen
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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 1:10 PM MDT reply actions
Is he eligible? With Lendale's injury he might be active roster too.
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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions
True dat
If Hall is eliglible then I do see him on the PS
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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I could see it
keep in mind Buck’s injury history and KnowMo’s coming off injury. Having a 4th RB wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.
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Sperry might have had a better chance
if he would have been picked up earlier in camp. But, there was not need for another TE at that point. Numbers game and he was on the wrong side.
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I'm a bit surprised that Britt Davis wasn't released at the same time as Arnett
maybe they’re trying to get Davis on PS…
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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Information......
It is being hoarded now……..
Neither of the Olsens were out there in the first cuts……
I know he’s got some baggage but what about getting Bobby McCray (DE – NO)?
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JJ Arrington was cut by the Eagles—
Seems we definitely got the most of that trade.
can't be sure till next year
when the eagles spend that draft pick. If they draft a perrish cox or thompson with that late pick, it would be a very win-win trade.
by BroncoInExile on Sep 3, 2010 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions
We dominated that trade
Joe Mays….a physical ILB who is a stud on ST
for
J.J. Arrington….a talented, but injured RB who hadn’t played since 2008
Speaking of which, with LenDale out for the season, maybe we bring back J.J.?
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Actually
It ended up being Joe Mays for a sixth round pick, which is still a win, although also a win for Philly too.
not really
when we win the SB
it will be too late of a 6th round pick to matter
:)
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yeah, cuase everyone knows the TOP of the 6th round is where the talent is...
once you get to the bottom of the 6th you might as well not bother.
Just kidding with you there…
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by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 3, 2010 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Why not pick up JJ
He knows our offense and he has speed
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Philly has better front 7 D players than us
Mays was unlikely to make the Eagles 53; so not a bad trade for them – getting a draft pick.
For us, ? We needed better special teams players, so if Mays can also be more than a specialist (can he pass cover decently for a LB?), then it will be a win for both teams.
McD said they are thinking of keeping 7 WR
Big mistake IMO
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wow, that's interesting though
tells you he’s been thinking they’re going to have to pass and pass and pass some more to get Ws this year.
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by broncosmontana on Sep 3, 2010 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions
As the saying goes, it's always better to cut a guy a year too early than a year too late...
And this doesn’t seem to be a year too early IMO – he’s getting up there in age and is limited in terms of durability.
I’m not trying to criticize Stokely though – I love the guy, it’s just a matter of age and circumstances.
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by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 3, 2010 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I would not make a good coach
I get too emotionally attached to these players and can’t make rational decisions.
.
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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
But you still get props...
For being the rare sports fan able to admit he’s not qualified to coach. LOL
You're either a fan or you're not.
by TheMastermind on Sep 3, 2010 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah, my dad's one of those who hasn't met a coach he couldn't outperform.
And it doesn’t matter what the sport is – the Rockies, the Broncos, the Av’s, my dad could coach ‘em all! he’s a rennaisance man, I guess.
and Jay Cutler was a bum until McD ran him out of town….
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by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 3, 2010 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I like our young WR corp potential.
On a scale of 1-10 with 10 having Andre Johnson like potential and 1 having Darius Heyword-Bay like potential I’d say:
D. Thomas 10/10
E. Royal 10/10
P. Willis 9/10
E. Decker 9/10
In terms of potential only. Not a current rating.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
Really?
That might be a bit rose colored there, even if it is potential. I know that they were drafted by the Broncos, but that doesn’t automatically make them future Hall of Famers.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
No big suprises thus far. Baker was all potential no performace.
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The fact that Overbay was released first
tells me that we are probably trying to get Geer on our practice squad.
Hope so.
He was a good blocker.
Just couldn’t catch that ball last night.
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by Nick Cast on Sep 3, 2010 1:36 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad...I actually felt really bad for the guy.
You could tell from his body language and reaction to that drop that the guy was just utterly crushed emotionally. Still…catch the F’in ball! lol
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lol exactly!
but he was pretty solid the rest of the pre season. He did enough to earn a PS spot IMO
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Joe Mays has to be in.
Bummer for Jammie Kirlew, but he’s young and may catch on with someone else. “May”…
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Woody (or someone from DP) called it right when they said Kirlew wasn't NFL material apparently.
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Yeah.
Mays is what I thought Kirlew could be after all the post-draft stuff came out. Kirlew, unfortunately, was not.
Oh well. It was fun pronouncing his name while it lasted.
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Isn't the deadline to get down to 53 in about 5 minutes?
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The deadline is tomorrow I think :)
There should be more cuts tomorrow.
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oh...I read on DP that is 4PM Friday MST...probably a typo then
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That's the DP Deadline to finally write an accurate article
Sorry, couln’t help it.
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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
The irony is, I've read it within two seperate articles.
Well one “article” and one “blog post”…probably from the same writer no doubt.
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Bill W triumphant return to the Post?
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by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
The only thing Williamson is making a triumphant return to...
is the buffet line.
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by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 3, 2010 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well
I trust McX and Mr. Bowlen to make the right decisions. We’re headed for greatness my friends!
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 3, 2010 1:57 PM MDT reply actions
Their the Broncos....they're already GREAT :)
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Chargers get WR Patrick Crayton for 7th round pick...
Nice pickup for SD
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Yeah pretty good
I’ll be happier about it if it’s connected to them not having Vincent Jackson around :)
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This.
Although I’m not sure who is more overrated, SD or Dallas. That might just be a toss up.
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 3, 2010 5:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't forget the Jets in that mix....
"I cannot give you a formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: Try to please everybody."
They'll keep on being Paper Tigers until they get a coach
AJ Smith can draft, and he can swing a mean deal (the two times the Chargers traded out of the #1 overall pick went a long way towards their last 10 years or so of sucess). But when have they had a decent coach to lead them anywhere in the postseason (and Marty Schottenheimer doesn’t qualify as a decent coach – if you disagree I’ll point you to their loss to the Patriots int he playoffs in which they were totally unprepared).
If they ever get a decent coach, we’re really screwed then.
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by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 3, 2010 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions
They're San Diego...they won't. AJ won't allow it...
AJ has a copious ego..one that doesn’t allow a strong, decent HC to share space with. :)
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yeah, if he couldn't even get along with Schotty...
that about says it all.
come to think about it, he’s kinda the anti-shannahan if only either could learn to work with a talented counterpart a equals they’d probably be facing off in the superbowl.
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by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 3, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions
exactly...
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A Paper Tiger
is even worse than a crouching tiger
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 3, 2010 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Damn you AJ Smith!
You manipulate teams to your will! Too bad you can’t do the same for your holdouts
I'm not worried
Crayton can’t play defense. Much like the rest of his new teammates.
Josh McDaniels-All he wants to do is win a MF'in game!
by RockyMountainThunder on Sep 3, 2010 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Glass house...stones...careful there man!
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Crayton is overrated. He’s got decent size and speed, but gets alligator arms and doesn’t run routes consistently.
true, but a 7th rounder isn't a bad price to play for his experience and skills
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Ok, so if the over/under for guys on the list above to make the PS is 3...what would you bet on?
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5
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which 5?
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Vaughn
McCarthy
Worrell Williams
Riar Geer
kevin alexander
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not one of those guys is listed above...so you are taking the under I suppose? lol
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Baker and Kirlew are the only two I’m really interested in
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I don't think Baker clears
He was on the 53 last year and NT/DT are always in need.
by BroncoInExile on Sep 3, 2010 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Under
I think Kirlew and Arnett will make it. Geer will likely be the TE on the PS (unless Branson was seriously hurt last night— didn’t he go down?)
Won't bow. Don't know how.
Re: Branson - No, only the ball he was holding in his hands. :P
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I say three, obviously, so that would be under right? :)
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ok, so 3.125 is the new standard!
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3.141
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Here is a thought:
Trading Nate Jones to New England for Laurence Mauroney
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by Nick Cast on Sep 3, 2010 2:07 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
what round was Jones drafted in? I don't think Bill bites on that trade...
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I don’t see how that’s relevant at all… Haha
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by Sayre Bedinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
what round was Jones drafted in? I don't think Bill bites on that trade...
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Nate Jones was drafted in the 7th
but he is one of the best nickel CB’s in the league.
They could sure use him and we could use Mauroney.
They have Green-Ellis who has taken more snaps in pre season. We would probably also throw in a pick in 2012
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I think the Pats
would rather gain an RB then lose one. Behind Maroney is a bunch of oldies/role players
Green-Ellis
is the guy getting the most rushing attempts in the pre season.
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Still pre season stats (especially carries/catches/pass attempts)
They don’t matter. Plus he’s coming off a 26 carry year. Doubt they want to throw all their eggs into that basket
they don't have to
they can give him about 100 attempts
and
give the rest to Kevin Faulk, Sammy Morris, and Fred Taylor
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Maroney is awful...I live in Maine and watch the Patriots all the time
He is not worth trading for!..He has been one of those full of potential, shows nothing on the field type guys!
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by bronco-Maine-iac on Sep 3, 2010 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Fail, hate Mauroney.
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Madden
hates Maroney too. He sucks on the game as well as in real life
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Sep 3, 2010 5:11 PM MDT up reply actions
post preseason
With white out for the year I can only hope Jonathan Dwyer gets cut, I would love to see us pick up a back like that off a practice squad. Also if any D-line from Minnesota get cut we need to be on it!
I wish, but that will not happen.
…and there are 10 other teams in front of us that would get him. That kid is a beast.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Sep 3, 2010 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Never know. Josh Barrett got all the way to the pats....
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I don't understand the facination with Baker????
He’s played two preseasons and has not looked anything but pedestrian against mostly second and third string offensive linemen. I don’t get it.
Also, I will eat crow for the whole year if Nate Jones is cut, traded, or otherwise. He’s been the starting nickle all camp, he’s versitle, and, other than one or two penalites, he hasn’t stood out at all in the games (which is a great thing for a CB). IMHO, Nate Jones will make this team and be productive all year. I actually find it releiving to have a nickle that is under the radar. I can’t remember how many times the #1 name called on the defense the last couple years was Bly, Jack W, Paymah, Ty Law, Zo Smith, etc. Other teams threw on these guys every down. It’s great he hasn’t “stood out” (which is actually a criticism I’ve heard on here).
Won't bow. Don't know how.
by ButteBronco on Sep 3, 2010 2:14 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
On Baker
He had a couple pretty good games last pre season but there was a huge drop off this one. Also I was fascinated with him due to his sheer size/athleticism especially in comparing him to the low potential and smaller than normal NT’s we already had on the roster. Here’s to hoping we draft a good one in ’11!!!
It's the "upside" excitement.
It’s fun to imagine your team pulling a fast one over the whole league by drafting a talented guy who falls in the draft due to personal issues and then turns out to be a stud. Sometimes you get a talent like Brandon Marshall in the 4th round… but sometimes you get a person like Brandon marshall in the 3rd round.
And while we’re on the subject of character issues, and keeping in mind our lack of RB depth… Anyone notice Maurice Clarett’s out of prison and free to travel for football purposes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/26/sports/26sportsbriefs-clarett.html
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by Hercules Rockefeller on Sep 3, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Paymah is available today too
Definite flashback that his name popped up again today. Several Shanny-era castoffs getting cast off again.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/03/karl-paymah-michael-robinson-among-49ers-cuts/
It'll be his 4th team in 4 years if he finds a new home.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 3, 2010 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Super "rec" from me
I don’t get it either. I’ve never participated in the love affair. Never. I don’t get it. Perhaps his size? That’s the main reason people thought Dustin Fry was the bee’s-knees.
It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!
Baker fetish:
I think all the Baker talk was due our (Bronco fans) desperate want/need to have a dominant young nose guard. I never was overly impressed with him…just flashes
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oh your so funny lol
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On opposite day.
:(
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
by ChristianL on Sep 3, 2010 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now what would be funny is Lonnie Paxton getting cut
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by Broncoman on Sep 3, 2010 2:51 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
There goes my fantasy team.
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by Broncoman on Sep 3, 2010 2:52 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
If you had any of these players on your team
It was already gone, man.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
ha! Classic.
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Just saw that too
while watch the replay of the Broncos game.
Well, Vincent Jackson really isn’t getting anything from SD now.
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Crayton easier to cover than Jackson...
let the whiny Charger fans blind themselves into thinking their team is still elite.
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No surprises YET
None yet but I am thinking they are burning up the phone lines trying to trade for or to. Would love to get some value for the players we think are good enough to play in this league just not good enough for the Broncos.
My surprise guess is that Lloyd gets cut or traded. I dont advocate that but think it might happen.
TJ Housh
will be released or traded by Seattle. WOW. That’s surprising for sure. I would expect KC and Oakland to try and nab him.
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if he gets cut…Rams.
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by Orange and Blue on Sep 3, 2010 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Or SD?
I know they got Crayton already, but still…
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or Minnesota
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Jaguars are rumoured to be interested in Chris Baker.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 3, 2010 5:01 PM MDT reply actions
getting their scouting reports ready for next week.
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The 7 cuts are the primary PS candidates
Baker, Kirlew, Sperry, Overbay, Duncan, Williams, Arnett are all likely to be and eligible for the eight man PS. You would want to cut these guys today so that they can be signed back Saturday. A team can only sign its PS squad once it has cleared the roster to 53. PS players have to clear waivers (24 hours). That Willis isn’t on this list means either 1) the Broncos are trying to trade him or 2) (and more likely) Stokely will be cut Saturday morning (if he can’t be traded). Should any of these 7 cut players not clear waivers, the Broncos will make their next cut of a PS candidate ASAP. Not entirely clear why you would not try to clear 8 guys now rather than 7. But if I had to bet, unless these guys are claimed, these 7 will be the guys signed back on Saturday afternoon. Also keep in mind that a PS player is barely yours; all a team has to do to grab one of your PS guys is sign them to their 53 man roster at any time during the season.
by glennscott9@yahoo.com on Sep 3, 2010 5:07 PM MDT reply actions
Maybe 7
To leave a slot open to sign another teams cut player to the broncos practice squad? just a thought.
The last 11 to be cut...
1-8) Bruce Hall, Britt Davis, Seth Olsen, Ben Garland, Jeff Stehle, Worrell Williams, Kevin Alexander, and Kyle McCarthy.
The other 3 are to close to call.
1) Brandon Stockley, if he doesn’t go on the IR or retire.
2) Richard Quinn and Riar Geer, 1 on the active roster and the other to the PS.
3) Eric Olsen and Russ Hochstein. Olsen more then likely because we could put Eric on the PS.
We have other options with Doom, Ried, and Stockley all could go on the IR or PUP list.
Of the last 11, the top 8 for the PS would be: Hall, Davis, Geer, Eric Olsen, (Garland or Stehle), W.Williams, Alexander, and McCarthy.
Richard Quinn isn't even close to the roster bubble
Geer definitely getting cut
by black_knight101 on Sep 3, 2010 5:58 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Jason la canfora says were shopping the Phonz
by black_knight101 on Sep 3, 2010 5:57 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Interesting.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 3, 2010 5:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah. Seeking a 5th round pick.
We must really like Squid and Cox.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
God if we trade him for a fifth...
Let’s just say I hope McGeorge serves his crow seasoned well.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
seriously...
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I re-watched the Vikings game, focusing on Phonz, and was impressed with his play.
Especially the one where he went around the OT and tackled the RB behind the line of scrimmage. This is for people that say he can’t tackle.
Anyway, I’m intrigued by this development. I may have been underestimating Squid.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 3, 2010 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd rather be patient with him if we only get a fifth
But we’ll see
by black_knight101 on Sep 3, 2010 6:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Me too
I don’t like the idea of trading a young guy with a lot of upside, even if he’s been disappointing so far, in favor of keeping a veteran. I don’t like it in baseball and I don’t like it in football. Now if he nabbed a player in trade, a player that fit something that was more of a pressing need, like say a power RB, then I’d be more okay with the idea. But I’d rather trade Nick Jones. Who I think has some good value as well.
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Jones.
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this makes sense
We have too many good DBs, gotta trade someone. I assume Cox and Thompson have more upside for us than they do trade value. That leaves Jones or Phonz as trade candidates, whichever one we get better relative value for (I suppose goodman too, though that seem unlikely and undesirable). A fifth for phonz seems pretty fair. Not sure what fair value for Jones would be, though obviously more than phonz.
It might be selling low on phonz for sure, but if we have better young DBs ahead of him, he won’t improve anyway.
Could Chris Baker
be a reliable number 2? What is his strenghts? Weaknesses?
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
It appears as though it will soon be 63
Not for good reasons. Marquez Branson apparently suffered a serious knee injury, and could go on IR. Dumervil is going on IR. Could even be 62 if we trade Alphonso Smith. That means we would need to find a flipping tight end who can catch passes. Too bad Sperry didn’t get a better look in the pre-season.
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