All Ready! Your 2010 Denver Broncos 53-man Roster
by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 4, 2010 3:45 PM MDT
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Print| Quarterback (3) | Kyle Orton | Defensive Ends (4) | Justin Bannan |
| Tim Tebow | Le Kevin Smith | ||
| Brady Quinn | Ryan McBean | ||
| Marcus Thomas | |||
| Running back (4) | Knowshon Moreno | ||
| Bruce Hall | |||
| Correll Buckhalter | Defensive Tackles (2) | Ronald Fields | |
| Lance Ball | Jamal Williams | ||
| Fullback (1) | Spencer Larsen | ||
| Linebackers (8) | D.J. Williams | ||
| Baraka Atkins | |||
| Tight End (3) | Daniel Graham | Mario Haggan | |
| Dan Gronkowski | Joe Mays | ||
| Richard Quinn | Jarvis Moss | ||
| Wesley Woodyard | |||
| Wide Receivers (6) | Demaryius Thomas | Jason Hunter | |
| Eddie Royal | Robert Ayers | ||
| Matthew Willis | |||
| Jabar Gaffney | Cornerbacks (6) | Andre Goodman | |
| Eric Decker | Nate Jones | ||
| Brandon Lloyd | Cassius Vaughn | ||
| Champ Bailey | |||
| Perrish Cox | |||
| Offensive Line (9) | J.D. Walton | Syd'Quan Thompson | |
| Chris Kuper | |||
| Russ Hochstein | Safeties (4) | Darcel McBath | |
| Eric Olsen | Renaldo Hill | ||
| Ryan Harris | David Bruton | ||
| Ryan Clady | Brian Dawkins | ||
| D'Anthony Batiste | |||
| Stanley Daniels | Special (3) | Matt Prater | |
| Zane Beadles | Britton Colquitt | ||
| Lonnie Paxton | |||
Immediate Reaction and Notes
- Keep in mind, there could still be moves! Tweaking will continue for at least another 48 hours, and as the practice squad gets filled up.
- I am honestly a little surprised by Batiste, due to the preseason, but I also realize beggars can't be choosers. We still need to work on our OL depth, but I feel a lot better now than I did 3 months ago. Lets get the real games started already!
- A 6-man rotation on the DL is just a tad bit troubling, but it certainly rules out relying on 4-3 very much this year, since out OLB depth would be activated primarily for STs...
- 10 DBs again this year. This is an example of keeping the best players regardless of position. I expect the makeup of the backfield depth to change somewhat in response to McBath getting healthy. Keep in mind that we saw more names than this last year, just spread out more to accommodate injuries. We seem to be capitalizing on Bruton and McBath's quick development, and carrying the extra CBs early.
- McDaniels cut bait with a number of players, including Seth Olsen. I was never a fan of the Seth Olsen pick (sorry Sayre!) because I didn't like the "fit" (though I love OL products from Iowa as a general rule).
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Surprised they kept LeKevin Smith over Green
I really didn’t think either was all that great during the preseason. Of there could be more in the works as we speak as well. Overall I’m good with this 53 man squad. 6 CB’s wasn’t expected either, but the picks all make some sort of sense to me. Solid, but not necessarily spectacular group which, should serve us well during season.
"I cannot give you a formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: Try to please everybody."
I see a problem at our RB position
I suspect we will be culling others’ leftovers to find a LenDale-type guy.
But the rest of it, honestly, looks pretty solid.
Merely having an open mind is nothing: the object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid. -- G. K. Chesterton
Orton in 2010, Tebow in 2011, Super Bowl in 2012! Then the world ends, so who gives a frack what happens next.
by Sharpe as a Tack on Sep 4, 2010 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Agree completely,
but Hall and Ball both did what they were asked, although neither was really dominant like White was in short yardage. I’d really like to see that type of player picked up if possible.
"I cannot give you a formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: Try to please everybody."
What I could find on NFL.com for September cuts.
Curtis Steele
Frank Summers
Alfonso Smith
Dan Klecko
Dimitri Nance
Chad Simpson
Andre Anderson
Joique Bell
Rodney Ferguson
Jason Davis
Charles Scott
Justin Vincent
Ladell Betts
Michael Robinson
Jehuu CaulcrickBrit Miller
J.J. Arrington
Martell Mallett
Brandon Minor
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
Joique Bell
Bring him in.
Merely having an open mind is nothing: the object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid. -- G. K. Chesterton
Orton in 2010, Tebow in 2011, Super Bowl in 2012! Then the world ends, so who gives a frack what happens next.
by Sharpe as a Tack on Sep 4, 2010 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Chad Simpson. Built like Ray Rice...
Ray Rice 5’9 212. Chad Simpson 5’9 214
My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch
Really surprised about Green
Who is going to rush the passer from the D-Line group besides Thomas? I would keep Green over Hall, Le Kevin, Atkins and maybe more. Looks good besides that decision…hopefully I’m wrong. I guess they need big bodies if we are only keeping 6 D-Line.
My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch
Who would you have kept in his place?
Smith 2009 – 13 games/2 starts, 10 tackles, 1 sack; 2010 preseason – 8 tackles
Guys kept:
Bannan – 2009 16 games/2 starts, 35 tackles, 0 sacks; 2010 preseason – 5 tackles, 1/2 sack
McBean – 2009 14 games/14 starts, 25 tackles, 0 sacks; 2010 preseason – 4 tackles
Thomas – 2009 16 games/0 starts, 15 tackles, 0 sacks; 2010 preseason – 1 tackle
Guys let go:
Garland (rookie w/military obligations) – 2010 preseason – 7 tackles
Green – 2009 13 games/12 starts, 36 tackles, 1 sack; 2010 preseason – 2 tackles (in 1 game)
Stehle (rookie) – 2010 preseason – 7 tackles
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
Kenny Peterson?
Got the axe? Ouch.
Merely having an open mind is nothing: the object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid. -- G. K. Chesterton
Orton in 2010, Tebow in 2011, Super Bowl in 2012! Then the world ends, so who gives a frack what happens next.
by Sharpe as a Tack on Sep 4, 2010 3:53 PM MDT reply actions
He's long gone.
I think he was cut before the draft.
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yeah, I thought he was a free agent that didn’t get signed.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
:)
sheepish look
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Orton in 2010, Tebow in 2011, Super Bowl in 2012! Then the world ends, so who gives a frack what happens next.
by Sharpe as a Tack on Sep 4, 2010 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Cox’s play made McD realize he’s better off keeping Cox as the 3rd CB instead of returner
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
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by Orange and Blue on Sep 4, 2010 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't think so
because Royal is still listed as the first string returner. Although I don’t know how long that will last. Vaughn isn’t even listed.
not sure those are set right yet
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
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by Orange and Blue on Sep 4, 2010 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions
I liked Squid better than Vaughn. But I didn't see the Detroit game.
What am I missing?
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Happy about Mays and Hunter. Good late TC pickups.
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-- Shug Jordan
Agreed. I am a huge Mays fan. He's been playing hard all preseason.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
i LOVE Mays
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Quality Backups
I think we have quality backups at LB, QB, DB’s but wish we were better off on the OL and RB
by kimbertr on Sep 4, 2010 4:00 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
ehhhh
DL, RB, OL, ILB, SS, TE
in that order probably….at least for me.
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we have 3 picks in top 48 next year
1 DE, 1 RB, 1 ILB
sounds about right to me….
3rd rounder, I would look for OT
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i don't think we have much of a choice...
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9 Rookies make the 53 man roster. Is that some kind of record?
15 Tebow, Tim QB 6-3 245 23 R Florida
32 Cox, Perrish CB 6-0 195 23 R Oklahoma State
43 Thompson, Syd’Quan CB 5-9 187 23 R California
41 Vaughn, Cassius CB 5-11 195 22 R Mississippi
50 Walton, J.D. OL 6-3 305 23 R Baylor
68 Beadles, Zane OL 6-4 305 23 R Utah
69 Olsen, Eric OL 6-4 305 22 R Notre Dame
87 Decker, Eric WR 6-2 215 23 R Minnesota
88 Thomas, Demaryius WR 6-3 229 22 R Georgia Tech
3 x 305 lbs = almost a half ton of new rookie OL beef
Is that the fashionable weight for offensive linemen or what?
I wanna be Lonnie Paxton when I grow up
A million a year to be a long snapper. They can’t even line up on top of him anymore. Sweet job.
Tip: Orton memorabilia soon to increase in value, buy now!
Forget that, I'll be Mike Shanahan.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
you'll have to start working again then
and you’ll have to have that evil googly eye thing going, too. your call.
True... but I think Forrest Gump put it best
Lieutenant Dan got me invested in some kind of fruit company. So then I got a call from him, saying we don’t have to worry about money no more. And I said, that’s good! One less thing.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
gump never understood the value of a dollar. or 8 million for that matter.
also, i’ve eaten at his restaurant. it sucks. a lot of fried stuff soaked in grease and salted up. disappointing for a guy who seems like he would care for his fellow man.
Bubba knew all about shrimpin', but Forrest never claimed to be an expert.
I did buy a tshirt from there, though. It has “run forrest run” on the front and “stop forrest stop” on the back.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
It appears that Chiefs are interested in Matt Leinart
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/9/4/1670047/scoop-alert-chiefs-seriously#comments
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My knee-jerk reaction is to laugh uncontrollably...
But I’ll reserve that for now. After all, JRussel beat us at home….
-Harvey J. Neptune
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That's like reading the National Enquirer.
And believing it to be true.
Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
All Ready!!
Not sure if it was on purpose, but that brings back Darrent Williams memories!
R.I.P. D Will!
by BRONCOSAM on Sep 4, 2010 4:27 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
This!!!
He will not be forgotten.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
by Troy Hufford on Sep 4, 2010 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Everything is for a reason...
This is how we announce the 53-man roster, in honor of D-Will…
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Cha Cha Changes
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AqQeMQHeaeTbdEZzOTh3cUs0a1JucnY3cUFYU2t6eHc&hl=en
Just a quick comparison of the rosters from last year to this year.
by Hangar8 on Sep 4, 2010 4:32 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
thnks cool!
I counted 24 changes
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by RiG on Sep 4, 2010 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Where did we get better?
From looking at the list I believe we are better at:
Quarterbacks
Wide Receivers
Offensive Line
Defensive End
Defensive Tackle
Cornerbacks!
and Specialists
Not bad for one offseason!
To be fair I think we might be a bit worse off at:
Tight End
Running Back
and Linebacker (only because we lost Doom for the season)
so how many changes from last year?
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Looks like 24 new faces..
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so 45% roster turnover
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by RiG on Sep 4, 2010 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions
It is no surprise
that we are keeping more OL’s and LB’s. They are the weakest positions of depth.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Kenny McKinley?
what is his current status please?
i am sure i missed it somewhere, did not see him being cut anywhere. do we have an injury exemption of some sort?
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"We laugh to stave off madness."
Injured knee ligaments - out till next year.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
Not impressed McD.
LeKevin Smith is a no hustle chump. I watched him quite a bit last season and he was always jogging during plays, hands on hips. Guy makes no plays and doesn’t bring it.
Batiste is AWFUL. He’s so horrible. He doesn’t belong in the NFL anymore than Lance Ball or Bruce Hall.
We’ve wasted several roster spots with guys that are not NFL players. Can’t believe we cut Green since we get no pass rush to begin with. LeKevin Smith over Green?
The Phonz trade makes sense only in that we REALLY need a TE, but to get Dan Gronkowski??? Is that the best we could do? Really???
There are some big problems with our roster. Our RBs? I’m mean, if Moreno or Buck gets hurt and they’re both always hurt… We are playing guys that would be average college RBs. Our backup O-linemen are garbage across the board.
TE and RB are very worrisome for this team. After two drafts with a ton of picks, our depth on offense is nonexistent at several positions.
If we have injures on O in 2010, its going to be a rough year.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
You don't grok the Gronk?
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Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
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Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?
by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 4, 2010 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Well
Le Kevin produced more in the pre season then Jarvis did…but that’s all I can say about him. I didn’t expect him on the team either…i’m not convinced he will be.
Batiste is bad, but we have no other tackle depth. it is what it is.
Idk about the phonz trade. We will see. We NEEDED a TE in the worst way. It appears, he has some upside
We are definitely weak at RB. With some luck, we will pick up RB Jocquie Bell from the BIlls…he may be the best waiver wire running back.
We are DEF weak at o-line…
It will be interesting. Lets hope we have seen the last of the injury bug…
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I haven't seen McD use receiving TEs.
I thought that’s why Scheff was let go – he wasn’t getting playing time or receptions becuase he was needed more to block than to catch.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
He’s not really a receiving TE. He’s another blocking TE. A 7th round pick in 2009 that has one NFL catch for four yards?
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
He was the 2nd leading receiver on Detroit this pre season
it’s just pre season, but it still should mean something
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touche
we were reportedly looking for a 5th rounder
We get Gronkowsk and a late round draft pick (I’m thinking a 6th).
I guess that’s equal value to a 5th…idk. I don’t think we had much of a choice. It was probably a choice of either we trade him or cut him. So we prob got whatever we could.
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so instead of cutting the phonz and getting nothing. . .
we picked up a third string TE and a draft pick, not the worst that could happen
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Here's the problem
At this point are we certain that Gronkowski can even be a passing catching TE? I mean, they traded for him to fill in that role but that doesnt mean mission accomplished. Need evidence? Look at Branson.
Either way, my confidence level in the front office’s ability to judge talent took a major hit today. I was pumped about the direction the team was heading but now I’m not so sure.
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what did the front office do today that made you change your opinon
other then trade Phonz for Grotkowski?
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Quickly
1)Trading a 5th for Brandstater last year and abruptly cutting him 1 year later
2) Trading a pass catching TE (Scheffler) with no adequate replacement
3) 2nd round draft pick Beadles being moved all over the OLine. – He was drafted to be a guard. Nothing else.
4) Hillis for Quinn – not looking too good at this point.
5) Bringing in Green- paying him a big bonus upfront for not making the team.
I’m sure there are others that I cant think of. Anyway you slice it the Smith trade is a huge blunder.
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Is it really fair to evaluate decisions based upon ultimate outcome?
Who knew Smith was going to be such a disappointment? Most teams had a first round grade on him.
Who knew Squid and Cox were going to be studs in the backfield as pickups in round 5 and 7?
Who knew Hillis would show some flash after a flat 2009 season?
Who knew Ryan McBean would respond to the offseason challenge?
The FO can only make decisions, they can’t predict the future. Judge people on if they make the right decision in the moment. Trading Smith is the right decision. He was outperformed by a 5th round pick, a 7th round pick, and a UDFA. He was going to get cut, and the Broncos picked up depth in TE with Branson getting injured. Smith was a sunk cost who reaped some benefits.
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by Worthington on Sep 4, 2010 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions 11 recs
5th rec
Well said.
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Rec'd
Smartest thing I’ve heard in weeks. Its easy to be a genius when all you have to do is produce an opinion. Let some of the geniuses run their own team for a day, and see how it works out.
You're either a fan or you're not.
by TheMastermind on Sep 5, 2010 4:30 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Scheffler trade got us Cox
And moving Beadles to left tackle paid off…he handled J Harrison big time!
I don’t get the Green cut especially when it is between him and Le Kevin but it is a different 3-4 from last year and maybe they need more beef to make it work…idk?
My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch
Which
they wouldnt have needed to do but they traded a 5th a year earlier to select Tom brandstater.
Just wondering, since both picks were a 5 and both trades were with Detroit was it the original pick they received back or did they use Detriots pick to select Cox.
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I always love comments like...
“He was drafted to be a gaurd. Nothing else” Wow. I would love your access into the draft war room next year.
Won't bow. Don't know how.
That comment was pretty absurd.
As soon as he was drafted, there was talk of his versatility and the fact that he could be moved around. Heck that’s exactly the type of player the Broncos want. Someone that can do more.
Additionally, if people remember, between the Beadles pick and the Walton pick, people were talking about Beadles being the OC. Not just the fans, but the “analysts” as well. Adam Schefter was one of them, IIRC. (Because that’s where the talk was coming from, someone had linked to his tweet.)
That “nothing else” statement is really silly.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 4, 2010 11:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe the stress got to him....
that was a great comment.. :)
My point remains… When you struggle to run the ball wouldnt you like the player to remain in 1 position and excel at that.
jack of all trades.. master of none
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If memory serves
doesn’t the NE/McDaniels offense emphasize the TE primarily as a blocker?
In the time that McDaniels was with NE, only twice did a TE finish higher than 4th on the team in terms of yards (2009 – 3rd, 2006 – 2nd).
Add to that the fact that we saw Branson lining up in the backfield in two back sets, and a blocking TE may have been what McDaniels wanted.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
So he has abysmal catch numbers.
How are his blocking abilities? Is he GOOD at it, or are we just calling him a blocking TE because he’s NOT a receiving TE?
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
It might be interesting to note & remember
That the Broncos often used a TE as the lead back in two back sets this preseason.
I find myself wondering if that might not have been an attempt to address the short yardage question that has been in so many people’s minds.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
The shaort game which was stymied last year won't be left unnoticed!
Gronkowski is just a testament to the fact. McD/X was hoping Overbay or Geer would step up, but they have been slow in developing. I suspect one of them will be on the PS, possibly Geer as he showed more in preseason than Overbay in my opinion.
Right now
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. We need a replacement for White (a bruiser), a replacement for Batiste (an UPGRADE, not just another body) and a replacement for Le Kevin Smith (Vikes have released some Dlinemen).
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I think stanley daniels plays well enough at LG to kick beadles out in an emergancy
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by RiG on Sep 4, 2010 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
*for beadles to play Tackle...
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by RiG on Sep 4, 2010 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Fact is...
The left side of the line played better with Beadles at Left Tackle & Daniels at Left Guard than it did when Beadles was playing at Left Guard and ANYBODY else was playing at Left Tackle.
Cutting Daniels would come back to bite us if Clady has a setback
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by Alan_Smithee on Sep 4, 2010 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1 Alan
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My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
I watched Daniels play a lot in preseason and he’s not good. He’s not terrible like Batiste, but he’s a well below average starting OG.
The 2009 draft is just getting worse and worse with Seth Olsen burning out and the Phonz. This team is still very questionable. I’m not sure we’re any better today than we were in 2008. The lack of depth at several spots on the current team is scary in a bad way.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
2008 comes to mind more and more.
Horrible defense, especially against the run, and no RB depth, and a seemingly potent passing attack. Same show, different characters.
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"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
McD is surely worried that you're not impressed.
Let’s see: Sweeping generalizations (check). Reflexive negativity (check). Absurd hubris (check). Terribly premature (check).
Yep, it’s a McG post.
by Telluridden on Sep 4, 2010 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions 15 recs
C'mon, be fair
McG is voicing concerns, a legit thing to do. Doesn’t call for sarcasm in response. Point out where you disagree with him instead.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
McGeorge is "anal expulsive"
I’m frankly tired of it, as is Telluridden.
It’s not worth getting into a “slinging contest” with him.
He dominates posts when he’s on them “dissing” everyone who disagrees with him or doesn’t see it his way.
Why he gets to do it and no one gets to object puzzle’s me.
When he gets on a post, it’s mostly ruined for anybody wanting to do friendly discussion.
I mostly just move to another post.
by ivanthenotsobad on Sep 4, 2010 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
I tend to agree.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 4, 2010 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions
I think if you reread McGeorge's stuff....
usually you will find it’s just cold and factual, not necessarily dissing people.
His way of writing often seems like he’s attacking someone because of his wording, but on deeper analysis, it can often be read in a rather clinical way, and if you read what he says, not what he implies, you’ll find he’s quite logical. Except for when he calls people’s posts stupid, that is….. LOL.
He’s just an asshole. But it’s OK. He’s a smart guy. Hell, my best friend is an asshole. THey have their place in the world. McG, I mean that with the deepest respect. I use that as a descriptor of your personality, not an insult.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
As if that would help.
You're either a fan or you're not.
by TheMastermind on Sep 5, 2010 4:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep, right on cue..
So other than keeping Green over Smith even though Green did nothing what would you have done differently? I thought that you would be applauding Mcd for manning up and admitting his mistakes. It’s pretty obvious now that when he says the best 53 will make the team he meant it.
"as in football so in life"
Whoa. Huge surprise, McG not impressed with McD...
I know I’m just a cheerleader, but I just wish I had the years of NFL scouting experience of the man known as McG.
Batiste is AWFUL. He’s so horrible. He doesn’t belong in the NFL anymore than Lance Ball or Bruce Hall.
So authoritative McG.
“LeKevin Smith is a no hustle chump. I watched him quite a bit last season and he was always jogging during plays, hands on hips. Guy makes no plays and doesn’t bring it.”
I love how a regular guy that watches 10-15 plays a game on ball-following game tape questions the decision of a professional coaching staff with hour and hours of coaches film, countless positional and team meetings, full year of OTAs, a full training camp, and four exhibition games. The ego is astonishing.
We’ve wasted several roster spots with guys that are not NFL players.
Again, wow. You gotta love this stuff.
Won't bow. Don't know how.
by ButteBronco on Sep 4, 2010 11:06 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
Anyone who thinks this is the same 53 man the team will have on week 2
is naive, is all I’ll say.
Or even, Tuesday. :)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That would be bad though.
At this point we need consistency unless we can significantly upgrade a position. Learning a new system takes time, and anyone new at this point is going to be way behind. That’s one thing that worries me about groncowski. I hope he is a lot better than the TEs we had on our roster because he is going to need to be spoon fed the offense for a while.
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by John Bena on Sep 4, 2010 5:01 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
YOU DA MAN!
You and your shiny new Mic!
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Mannnnnn......
I’m gonna miss it! I am going to my neice’s 9th BDay party….. Some things trump football. Someone throw out a Bazinga at Cutler for me.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
RB
Nothing worries me more than the lack of quality at RB, I really hope we can bring in someone to add talent.
In 8 days are heading into Jacksonville meaning we are playing in a hot and humid place which requires frequent rotation among especially runningbacks who easily wear down, Moreno is not even walking normally right now so it is a long shot that he is ready to go, Buckhalter had 3 carries during all of preseason and isn’t 100% yet so no matter what we will be seeing quite a bit of our number 3 RB and potentially number 4 as well, and I am not comfortable with those positions being manned by Ball and Hall. Neither was impressive in the preseason, both are limited athletically and neither is a reliable pass blocker.
If we don’t do something that could get really ugly.
For those that haven't liked our front office moves all I have to say is Brian Dawkins.
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Sep 4, 2010 6:38 PM MDT reply actions
I'd add
Hill and goody to that list
I’m fond of gaffney as well. He might be our horse this year.
by Something Clever on Sep 4, 2010 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
In retrospect
I find the development of the roster under McD during the last two years interesting.
1 – he uses both the draft and free agency in complimentary ways.
2 – he is not deterred by the obvious fact that some moves pan out more than others.
3 – In 2009 draft, he got a TE (Quinn), a RB (Moreno), an OLB (Ayers), and two safeties (McBath & Bruton), all apparently NFL starting caliber. That’s five players.
4 – In 2009 by trade or FA, he got a QB (Orton), a RB (Buckhalter), a CB (Goodman), and two safeties (Dawkins & Hill), all apparently NFL starting caliber. That’s another five players.
5 – In 2010 draft, he got apparetly potential starters at: QB (Tebow), OC (Walton), OG (Beadles), WR (Decker, Thomas), and CB (Cox, Thompson or Vaughn). That’s eight players.
6 – In 2010 through trade of FA, he got potential starters at: NT (Willams), DL (Bannan). That’s another two players.
Despite the youth, I see serious upgrades and added depth at QB, RB, TE, WR, OL, DL, LB, CB & S. in the last two years.
I think QB, WR, CB and S will not need much additional attention in the next year.
I think DL will get additional attention next year at both NT and DT/G. Additional OL and LBs would also be welccome.
But this team already has the potential to be much improved over the team that I saw in 2008.
by ivanthenotsobad on Sep 4, 2010 7:06 PM MDT reply actions 17 recs
don't forget gaff
He may be the key to our season.
by Something Clever on Sep 4, 2010 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Very good observations, ivan.
IMO McJedi has been pretty astute in rebuilding this team. He left a couple of holes in the depth chart but all in all – what is normally a 3 year project showing some promise in two. We’ll see how it pans out
I just added up the players left that McJedi inherited when he arrived:
Offense: (6) Larsen, Graham, Royal, Kuper, Harris and Clady
Defense: (7) McBean, Thomas, DJ Williams, Haggan, Moss, Woodyard and Champ
ST: Prater
IR: (2) DOOM and Stokley
Total of 14 players. 16 adding the IR.
to be fair
they also acquired resources like cutler, marshall, and scheffler which they used to get added draft picks to add to the team. Not like they only started with 14 NFL-capable players exactly, though I agree with the sentiment overall.
Jarvis Green
I was actually not as surprised by the waiving of Jarvis Green as I was at his being picked up in the first place. It was a calculated gamble than didn’t pan out.
Green is the wrong DT/G/E for this team IMO. Both LeKevin Smith and Marcus Thomas, fit the mold better.
If you watched Green close, it didn't seem like he wanted to play in Denver!
He’s always wanted to be a sub and play in his home state, Louisianna. Possibly for the Saints…
I just got home from a week of absense...Elk hunting!
Where’s DOOM! Or did I miss something? Just watched the game and I have to tell ya, I’m pumped! Yeah! Oh…the defense has to work on the run stopping game for sure….And T? Man did he have the jitters starting against the Stoolers!
Hi bfree2 - DOOM tore a pec muscle in TC - on IR for the year.
Check the stories before the CIN game.
No! They think it's still summer for crying out loud...No bugling whatsoever...
Up here in Idaho anyway…And thanks for the Doom bad news, I thought he would come back by the London game. I guess it was worser than first thought? Glad Clady’s back and doing great…I’m watching the Stooler game once again and have the Vikes game taped for tomorrow…Don’t tell me the score because I don’t know it yet…I love surprises…
It was reported that Dumervil and the team decided mutually to go on IR, rather than try to push the envelope of recovery time and risk even more injury. I can dig that for sure.
Enjoy the Minnesota game…it has some down points, but there’s a lot of good stuff in there.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
Let me get this straight
People are worried about the BACKUP running backs, the BACKUP tight end, the BACKUP o-line, the BACKUP d-line? The Broncos first team is solid. Every team in the league has issues with the back end of their roster.
by Horse Head Bookends on Sep 4, 2010 8:57 PM MDT reply actions 10 recs
For some
What else is there to talk about if there is nothing to worry about? Agreed and rec’d.
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
Preach it brother.
You're either a fan or you're not.
by TheMastermind on Sep 5, 2010 4:49 AM MDT up reply actions
well HELLO
In case you haven’t noticed, there have been a ton of injuries this preseason. Who do you suppose is going to play, the Waterboy?
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Notable cuts......
Derrick Burgess OLB
Justin Hartwig C
Macho Harris S
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
Dallas cuts of note:
RB Lonyae Miller
NT Junior Siavii
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Sep 4, 2010 11:18 PM MDT reply actions
I'd take Miller over Hall
for sure, although I might take Joique Bell over Miller. Dallas also cut Mike Tepper, an undrafted OG/OT out of Cal. He’ll probably never be more than a backup, but he’s probably still better than Batiste (I realize thay may not be saying much).
RB Javarris Williams – KC casualty. Interesting.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Sep 4, 2010 11:22 PM MDT reply actions
As was RB DeDe Dorsey from Lions
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Sep 4, 2010 11:25 PM MDT up reply actions
MIN notables: DT Tremaine Johnson and LB Nate Triplett
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Sep 4, 2010 11:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Obviously this means
We will never go outside if 3 DL.If we ever go 4 DL one or 2 will be LBS (Moss/Ayers etc)
Will be interesting to see our sub-packages sans a lot of DL
In the preseason
Wink sometimes used packages in passing situations with only one true DL and a bunch of LBs. Obviously, we have a few LBs who are comfortable putting a hand in the dirt.
I agree. Mays and Hunter I think could be very good playing the line.
Officially on record with a 10-6 prediction for 2010! (8/21/10)
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
Granted, we are talking about backups at this point....
but I’m shocked to see Olsen make the team. Daniels was at least solid as backup guard, and Batiste was fair at LT (horrible at RT).
Olsen flat out sucked in the preseason. I hope they saw a lot more in camp than we did on film. He scares me when he comes in….not a good feeling. I’d wager he’s first to go if we can find a better option.
Keeping Smith over Green puzzled me, but maybe it’s because he’s familiar with the playbook. I think Green would have been a pass rusher only……
Like any team, we have concerns with our backups. That’s certainly not uncommon. Seems like a TON of teams need LB and DB help. It might make our search for OL depth easier.
Stokley…..I lobbied hard for you….I hope you end up as a Broncos coach.
Phonz we hardly knew ye….I felt we should have given him one more year, but the great play by this year’s draft picks has made it difficult. Good luck to you in Detroit….I’m glad it was an NFC team ;) Gronk! I expect to see you bench pressing DL and LB if you get a chance to play……
As far as our starters…I think the future is now! Still calling 10-6.
Go BRONCOS!!!!
Officially on record with a 10-6 prediction for 2010! (8/21/10)
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John Adams
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