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Better Know the Jacksonville Jaguars: Ask Big Cat Country

Hey Broncos Fans


I'm John, one of the editors over at SBN's Jacksonville Jaguar blog, Big Cat Country. Denver travels to the sunshine state to open up the 2010 season. Just happy real football is here for the long haul. If you have any questions about the Jaguars feel free to hit us up.

And now to get to that 75 word limit, that playoff game in 96 was pretty good, wasn't it?

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Who is Jones-Drew doing?

That game in 96 was bad, but the 1 on 97 was even better! LOL!!!

by Bron#1 Fan on Sep 6, 2010 12:01 PM MDT reply actions  

He’s fine, he returned to practice today and is 100%. Don’t worry, your fantasy season isn’t going to go down the drain.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Don't play fanasy football.

Just want to make sure when we beat you guys, there is no complaints about us better you without Jones-Drew.

Another question…Who well be starting at S for you guys.

by Bron#1 Fan on Sep 6, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Most likely Anthony Smith and William Middleton, aka

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Y wud he save you?

Tebow is on our side/team. Haha

WTF GEREN?!?!?!

by robbo650 on Sep 6, 2010 12:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Heh. Homer Simpson Approved comment!

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by underdog on Sep 6, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sean Considie was named

to be the starting FS on Sunday

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 7, 2010 1:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

re read his question
Who is Jones-Drew doing?

… he didn’t ask “How” is he doing lol

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by Broncs55 on Sep 7, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

LMAO!!!!!

Astute observation, and rec’d for analytical insight.

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by HarvJNep2n on Sep 7, 2010 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

That one in '97, is that the one

where Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary and Derrick Loville all ran for 100 yards?

QPU # 2.

by margabelle on Sep 6, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

ahh

good times.

( happy smile )

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by broncosmontana on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, good times

300+ rushing yards is totally insane.

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by weazel on Sep 6, 2010 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

quick correction.

While the Broncos eclipsed 300 yards rushing in that game, there were only two backs that rushed for 100+ each.

Terrell Davis had 184 and Derek Loville had 103. Vaughn Hebron came in a distant third with only 23 yards rushing.

Olandis Gary wasn’t drafted until 1999.

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by Davus.X on Sep 7, 2010 7:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Here's the link

LINKY

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by Davus.X on Sep 7, 2010 7:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

I like my version of reallity better...

… now off to feed the unicorn.

QPU # 2.

by margabelle on Sep 8, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Priceless! XD

I like your version better, too!

To be honest, I thought that the Broncos actually did that once to someone, where three backs all went for 100+ each, but I can’t find anything that backs it up. Perhaps I’m just getting old and really really nostalgic LOL

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by Davus.X on Sep 8, 2010 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Probaby one of the Kardasian sisters.

For luck.

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by Dwhite on Sep 8, 2010 7:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

How is your secondary?

Do you think that your DBs would match up well against Jabar Gaffney, Eddie Royal, Brandon Lloyd, Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, and Matthew Willis?

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.

by Troy Hufford on Sep 6, 2010 12:06 PM MDT reply actions  

That’s something Jag fans are throwing the panic button on. Rashean Mathis is still a gamer, but after that, it’s a mixed bag. Derek Cox has the talent, but has been playing with an injury. Then we cut or traded away practically every safety on the roster.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Is there a pretty solid pass rush to help with the holes in your secondary?

If not, I believe that our depth at WR could be something that the Jags struggle with on sunday.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.

by Troy Hufford on Sep 6, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

The 2009 Jags had one of the worst pass rushes in the modern NFL and a lot of money was spent in the offseason to correct that. Mainly in the form of bringing in Aaron Kampman and Tyson Alualu.

The pass rush is certainly going to be improved, but we can’t say by how much just yet.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for your answers and thanks for posting this.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.

by Troy Hufford on Sep 6, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wow, so our lame run defense against your great RBs...

… versus your lame pass defense against our great WRs. So the score might be 40-37.

QPU # 2.

by margabelle on Sep 6, 2010 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

It could look a lot like the AZ - GB playoff game.

sigh!………

- Nick

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by ncm42 on Sep 6, 2010 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

How is the o line shaping up

I know u spent your first two picks on tackles i believe last year and i thought i heard they had been playing well. Hows the line coming together?

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by BroncofanfromBoston on Sep 6, 2010 12:15 PM MDT reply actions  

I think Eugene Monroe is going to take his place amongst the other great AFC tackles this year. After coming into the 2009 camp out of shape (thanks to a 2 week holdout) and battling a severe flu, he really kicked it into another gear in the 2nd half of 2009. He came into this year’s camp in excellent shape and was a dominant force during the preseason.

After that, I dunno. Some uneducated talking heads keep praising RT Eben Britton, but he’s been inconsistent at best. The interior of the offensive line is also an issue. C Brad Meester was really bad last year, but has looked like he might rebound this year. Also, G Vince Manuwai is in year 2 of his recovery from ACL surgery.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

How many fans are buying tickets for 4 games

on the small chance that Tebow runs one or two snaps out of the Wildcat formation?

QPU # 2.

by margabelle on Sep 6, 2010 12:16 PM MDT reply actions  

No, last I heard, the other half pack was outselling the Denver one 3-1.

It’s honestly what I expected. Everyone with half a bran realized Tebow would’ve been an extremely stupid short term solution to the Jaguars ticket problems. He would’ve been holding a clip board all year and no one’s going to pay $50 a ticket to see their favorite player benched.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed about that not being a solution

There would have been a lot of frustrated fans since he would’ve sat most of the year barring injuries. And the coach doesn’t want a QB controversy. And also, didn’t they have a fairly high first round pick? They wouldn’t have taken him there, and by the time they picked 2nd he would’ve been gone. They would’ve had to make some major moves to get him when they had other glaring needs. But as we Broncos fans have found out, don’t let logic and fairness get in the way of the MSM’s arguments!

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by underdog on Sep 6, 2010 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Please rec'd this folks so the dialog can keep going...

Hi John, how’s the weather down there? Will it be humid and hot Sunday?

by bfree2bronc on Sep 6, 2010 12:22 PM MDT reply actions  

90 degrees at kickoff and around 60% humidity, have fun coming down from the Rockies ;)

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Broncos really struggled in Miami season opener

a few years back because of the weather. Do the Jags where their white uni’s at home? If so, Denver should wear their orange unis instead of their dark blues.

QPU # 2.

by margabelle on Sep 6, 2010 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Usually no surprisingly.

Del Rio’s first home game as HC was vs Buffalo. Honestly I think that was the hottest, muggiest game I’ve been to in person in my life. Jax wore their white jerseys, like they always did when Coughlin was the HC. Yet Buffalo still whipped us 38-17. After that game Del Rio basicly swore off wearing white at home. Though we have done it twice since, home openers in 2005 (vs Seattle) and 2006 (vs Dallas)

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hope the jags are counting on the weather to bother the Broncos

The Jags are going to be surprised at how good we are now that everyone is close to healthy.

The only thing the jags got going for them is the run game. Our answer will be the Dawk laying some wood on MJD.

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by scottwchicago on Sep 6, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

It should be an interesting test for the Broncos now that Shanahan is no longer here.

There were questions that arose after the departure of Mike Shanahan and his conditioning methods, those discrepancies hopefully have been dianosed and rectified. I don’t think the weather will be much of a factor as both teams have to play in it. Let’s hope both teams play well and the best team comes out on top!

by bfree2bronc on Sep 6, 2010 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the Jags may also shock you. The passing attack has improved. David Garrad completed over 70% of his passes this preseason and having MJD back will open up playaction pass opportunities and draw safeties into the box. The D line also appeared much improved and I am picking Derrick Harvey to finally have a big year. The Jags won’t be a cake walk.

by Mike Riley322 on Sep 6, 2010 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've always liked David Garrard.

I’l be rooting for him…. outside of week 1, that is. :)

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by Davus.X on Sep 6, 2010 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

I used to go watch him play

while he was at ECU. Good times. Too bad I can’t remember many of them!

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by grind_core on Sep 7, 2010 2:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Del Rios future

Do you think if Del Rio dosnt win this year he is out as Jags head coach?

Also why do the Jags have such a hard time selling tickets? Is there just a lack of interest in the team in jacksonville because yall have been fairly competative teh past few years even when you havent made the playoffs.

by worleybird on Sep 6, 2010 12:53 PM MDT reply actions  

I think it’s pretty much playoffs or bust for Jack at this point. This team has had twice as many December collapses (4) compared to playoff appearances (2) and only 1 playoff win to show for it.

As far as tickets go, last year was something of a perfect storm. Jax has the 2nd highest unemployment rate in the league, after Detroit. A lot of people were jaded when 2008’s Super Bowl run turned into a 5-11 team.

If you look at the year’s before 2009, Jax was right in the middle of attendance. The tarps were put on the stadium because quite frankly it was far too big for the market. At 73K and some change, it was the 6th largest stadium in the league, yet Jax is the 2nd smallest market.

The team has since launched one of the greatest PR campaigns in history with it’s “Team Teal” promotion. The team has sold over 15,000 new season tickets and is on the right direction.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who do you think Mathis will cover?

lot of guys on our team can get separation, catch, and make a play afterwards.

Also, what do you expect from Garrard this year?

by DBroncs1414 on Sep 6, 2010 12:57 PM MDT reply actions  

Not sure, typically Mathis line’s up on the left side of the formation, so whichever wide out will be there.

As for Garrard, he’ll put up decent numbers, but he’s the prototypical “Game Manager” QB. GM Gene Smith has made it perfectly clear he intends to take a QB high in next year’s draft, so the writing is on the wall there. Also, little factoid of interest, the Jags haven’t taken a QB since Leftwich in 2003. That’s the longest period of any team in the NFL.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

So...

someone like Jack Locker at #1…just kidding! LOL!!!

by Bron#1 Fan on Sep 6, 2010 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or Jake :-P

;-) just giving you a hard time… I like Locker. Seahawks fans I know are partially hoping they crap the bed this season so they can draft him They may get their wish!

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by underdog on Sep 6, 2010 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe not Locker. Know the Jags have looked at FSU’s Christian Ponder and UA’s Nick Foles so far

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Foles, really? I’m a U of A alum and he came from nowhere last yr to do what he’s doing. I’m still amazed we have a potential top 2 round QB. He has the measurables, tho his arm strength is not great.

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by Orange and Blue on Sep 6, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Really?

Pats, Colts included? No offense but I doubt that

by DBroncs1414 on Sep 6, 2010 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's true

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by Adam Stites on Sep 6, 2010 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh

I thought you meant first rounders

by DBroncs1414 on Sep 6, 2010 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also...

What is your assessment of Tyson Alulu (however you spell his name so far), will he be a starter?

by worleybird on Sep 6, 2010 1:34 PM MDT reply actions  

(And is there someone Jags fans wish they had drafted in that spot instead or are you pleased with him?)

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by underdog on Sep 6, 2010 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

When he was first drafted, needless to say everyone at BCC let out a collective WTF.

However, as we researched the pick we liked it. He had better numbers than Gerald McCoy. He’ll be a starter. Got a sack on his first play of the preseason.

Alot of people were championing Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen, but obviously that would’ve been a huge reach.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

10th rec

This will be around while now, thanks for doing this JL.

Question:

There was talk Del Rio “lost” the lockerroom when the Mike Peterson flap happened. Where is he now? I know the ownership is tight with money right now and would avoid paying 2 coaches like the plague, but does he still “have” the team?

Also, WR Mike Thomas played here at U of A and he was a playmaker. I hear good things about him, what are the fans’ thoughts? I hope he drops 5 balls against us but then catches 80 balls the rest of the yr:)

Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
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by Orange and Blue on Sep 6, 2010 1:36 PM MDT reply actions  

First off, Weaver has never been afraid to spend money. Just because the Jags don’t go out and get a TO or Mike Vick doesn’t mean the team is cheap.

As for Del Rio, I do think he lost the locker room in 2008. He brought in Gregg Williams to be the DC and just expected Williams and Koetter to take the team to the Super Bowl. He proceeded to then become a major part of the Jax socialite scene rather than being the HC. Then when the season went to hell and Jack acted like he was there all along, it was the final straw.

As for now, I think Jack has complete control of the locker room. He knows this is his last chance.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

From afar, it seemed like Jack was kept soley for reason of not paying another HC. He hasnt done anything in the past 3 yrs that warrants him keeping his job IMO. Unless I missed something great he’s done. Haven’t the fans been calling for his head?

Very surprised he didnt jump at the USC job.

Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
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by Orange and Blue on Sep 6, 2010 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

One of Weaver’s big strengths and weaknesses is that he is loyal to a fault. Any other owner, I think Jack is gone.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

gotcha. Thanks for doing this.

Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan

by Orange and Blue on Sep 6, 2010 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

well, he must have had some say in ok’ing the Garrard contract, right?

Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan

by Orange and Blue on Sep 6, 2010 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

As for Mike Thomas, he had the best camp and preseason of all the WRs. He’s the #2 WR on the team, which he earned. He should have a great year.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Texans just signed Leinart to 1 yr. deal

I saw on your blog the Jags were considering Leinart, so… so much for that.

QPU # 2.

by margabelle on Sep 6, 2010 1:40 PM MDT reply actions  

who the hell would want him anyways? lol

we are soooooo glad we didn’t get him

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by FRANKdubz on Sep 7, 2010 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is it fair to say

pass defense is your # 1 concern going into the season?

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by Nick Cast on Sep 6, 2010 1:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Yea, I think so. But rather than the defensive line, now it’s the secondary

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Much better than last year, but that’s easy when you’re dead last. The big thing will be Aaron Kampman’s health. He’s looking like how he was in Green Bay so far, but if his ACL goes out, we’re screwed.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

How was Mike Sims-Walker's Preseason?

have him on my fantasy football team – he’s on my bench but i’m not sure if Steve Smith (Car) will be playing on Sunday

by Bustafluff on Sep 6, 2010 6:15 PM MDT reply actions  

He didn't see too many snaps

On the 2nd game he got drilled and hurt his shoulder, but was back for the 3rd game. I’d expect a season similar to last year from MSW.

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by Adam Stites on Sep 6, 2010 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Red Zone?

I have some of the Jags preseason games and have noticed a couple of things. Though, I haven’t watched enough to know whether they are real issues:

1) It seems like Garrard is doing a good job throwing underneath but seems to struggle as he gets closer to the end zone. Do you have concerns about your red zone offense?

2) It also seems like the run blocking by the jags might have been a bit inconsistent this preseason, is that true from your perspective?

Thanks.

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by dextermilo on Sep 6, 2010 8:07 PM MDT reply actions  

1) Absolutely it’s a concern. MJD is the offense in the red zone and when we’re too far out for him to get the job done, we’re in trouble. There have been way too many turnovers in the red zone and the preseason did nothing to make me feel better about it.

2) No it wasn’t really that inconsistent. It was consistently bad. I don’t think there’s too many people concerned because this is kind of an annual thing. There was a lot of shuffling on the first team interior line in the preseason. They’re really not the best group on the interior line and it’s a position that needs to be addressed, but I’d expect the run game to look a lot better for the regular season.

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by Adam Stites on Sep 6, 2010 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hit publish and it said I wasn’t at 75 words, so blame SBN

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 6, 2010 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's a convenient excuse.

Seriously, though, thanks for coming over and answering our questions. What jags unit will be better than expected?

by Coverboy on Sep 6, 2010 11:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol

No worries.

We won a couple of trophies of some kind the two seasons after that game, so these days it doesn’t bother me NEARLY as much as the fact that we’re 1-3 against you guys over the last decade. This matchup has become a real dogfight.

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by broncosmontana on Sep 7, 2010 5:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

I have looked a lot at the Jags offense this year

Outside of the great ability of MJD, I just didn’t see much ability to make key plays from the passing game, both from Garrard and the receivers. What is the plan in Jacksonville to avoid a one sided offense similar to St. Louis with Steven Jackson?

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by Topher Doll on Sep 6, 2010 11:31 PM MDT reply actions  

A buncs of receivers

Seriously; Marcedes Lewis and Zach Miller are weapons nobody cares about and will pay for it.
Jaretty Dillard is a catch maschine.
Mike Thomas is a multifunctional weapon. And I didn’t mention MSW yet…

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 7, 2010 1:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dillard

Being one of the rare NFL talents from my alma mater, I’m interested in how Dillard was progressing. Knowing the WR core there has been, um, a work in progress for a few years, is he filling space, or one that you are counting on for the future? Also, is he out temporarily, or IR’d for the year? Thanks for taking the time to camp out here awhile!

by MakeCents on Sep 7, 2010 5:44 PM MDT reply actions  

I expects very much out of him

this year. He is a ‘catch maschine’ in long (10+ yard passes). Maybe the second best WR in the team (IMO). He is someone Denver must keep an eye on him.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2010 2:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm curious....

what Jacksonville fans think about their drafting over the past 5-6 years? I’m a big draft/prospects guy and it seems like there’s been a lot of more misses than hits, especially with early round picks. Guys like Reggie Williams, Matt Jones (ouch), Justin Durant, and Quentin Groves have been complete busts. Guys like Leftwich, Barnes, Nelson, Harvey and Lewis have been solid starters at some point but not stars. It really seems like MJD is the only star that’s been drafted with MSW having potential to join MJD as a star or at least on the solid starters list. It’s hard to judge the 2009 picks and impossible to judge the 2010 picks but I’m hesitant about Monroe, Britton, and Alualu.

 I’m wondering what Jax fans are saying about this. I don’t mean for this post to be inflammatory as I know drafts are always a delicate subject with fans (just ask me how I feel about Alphonso Smith right about now), but are fans blaming Smith for these picks? Or Del Rio? Or both? I don’t know the draft room dynamic of the Jags which is why I’m asking and how this might lead to a new front office/coach in the near future if the Jags don’t perform up to expectations this season. Also, do you believe that the Jags may have “pressed” a little too hard to try and fill both sides of the lines in the past three years instead of simply taking the best players available? I won’t lie but it was a little startling as a draft fan to see the Jags go DE/DE with a tradeup in 2008, OT/OT/DT in 2009, then DT/DT again in 2010. Do you think Indy being in that division has made the team go with draft day decisions that were a bit short-sighted or really were the best moves to be made?

by TChizza on Sep 8, 2010 2:12 AM MDT reply actions  

The Shack Harris era(2003-08)

was considered a dark age when it comes to drafting. From the 6 first round picks only 2 (Marcedes Lewis; Harvey) is with the team. He screwed a lot of drafts in my opinion. The 2008 season was a disiaster We had 11 picks- he drafted 5 players; 4 of them are gone….
He had only 1 elite draft -2006: Lewis; MJD; Ingram.

The new era with Gene Smith so far a success story. 15 picks all with team; Last year the first 4 picks started almost every game. Although I have concerns with 1-2 players(Britton; Cox;) it is a major upgrade. This year’s 1st pick’s (Alualu) performance will be key. 8;5 out of 10 people thinks he was a reach. But if he turns outto be a great player; nobody will chaleenge Gene Smith for a while.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2010 2:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I really do appreciate your insight into this and you’re quite correct about Durant, my mistake.

by TChizza on Sep 8, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Durant has been a solid starter since he was drafted, wouldn’t call him a bust

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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 8, 2010 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

He is a good LB; but he will have a make or break kind of cross road year (He is in his contract year)
But he was fine in 07-08. In ’09 he sometimes diappeared; plus had a concussion too.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2010 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Play calling

I watched the Jags a lot last year because I had MJD on my fantasy team. I found myself frustrated with the play calling in that I noticed MJD would sometimes be forgotton about. I felt he’s a stud and should be force fed the ball at every opportunity but he went long periods without touching it. If I remember correctly he was frustrated as well with his lack of touches. I was wondering if you guys had the same observation. If the Jags get down early do they tend to abandon the run?

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Sep 8, 2010 9:05 AM MDT reply actions  

Depends

This year it will be a new situation. OC Dirk Koetter will run this offense on his own. In the last years RB coach Pola; and TE coach Tice had major influence. hey wanted to run the ball more.

But Koetter is a pass 1st type of guy; so nobody knows what he is planning. Prepare for double TE formations; and a lot of pass plays

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2010 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not much to add here

Other than reading through some of the posts over there, I kinda get the feeling there are some sour grapes being passed around. Why is it being made a big deal? Because it’s Tim Tebow. You guys could have drafted him but ya didn’t, so now it’s “who cares….”

Sour grapes.

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by grind_core on Sep 8, 2010 9:49 AM MDT reply actions  

Nobody at BCC wanted Tebow

Well there was one and he got pissed at us on a daily basis for bashing his guy.

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by Adam Stites on Sep 9, 2010 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey

it’s a Jaguars fan that doesn’t act like a petulant boob. KG was right: ANYTHING IS POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE

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by the new Bradfather on Sep 8, 2010 2:18 PM MDT reply actions  

MJD's Knee - the Real Story?

What’s the BCC consensus on MJD’s knee? Even rumors sometimes sprout from a kernel of truth. What’s the real dirt?

As someone who owns MJD on my fantasy team, I groaned to hear your OC is pass-happy. Say it ain’t so, bro! Broncos always trump fantasy though, so in any case I’m hoping MJD has a quiet Sunday… Thanks for this post!!!

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by Bronconigma on Sep 10, 2010 1:49 AM MDT reply actions  

He said he is fne

Sunday we will find out

We will run the ball often; but I think the passing game will becoming a bigger factor this year. Finally we not have CLF level WRs to do that!

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 10, 2010 5:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

We're not concerned

There was no surgery and we’re not sure there was ever an injury. MJD claims he just needed a break.

As for your fantasy team, the OC is the same guy from the last 4 or 5 years. His stats are not going to be magically affected by his philosophy this year.

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by Adam Stites on Sep 10, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

With all due respect and everything.....

I just don’t understand how the Jags can be favored this weekend,

by Gulbrand on Sep 10, 2010 9:34 AM MDT reply actions  

Because of the media coverage and unknowns

What people know is Marshall & Scheffler are gone. And they know the Broncos are more wounded then a civil war regiment.

All passes to Marshall & Scheffler will now fall on vacant land and the bandages, crutches, wheelchairs in the field will slow the remaining players.

So, of course…How could the Broncos win in those conditions?

:-)

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by Alan_Smithee on Sep 10, 2010 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah..... Scheffler was a stud on our team!

Don’t know what we will do without him!!!

Now that Royal is effective in the his new position (the slot), and Orton isn’t targeting just one receiver…. not sure how he’s going to do it.

Also, the new 1st team run defense is looking horrible only giving up 1 big play this preseason.

The offensive line has shown a lot of promise against premier players… so the concern has just amplified!

Also, our defensive backs are getting older but still how the same talent…. I’m very worried!

I’m not worried against Jacksonville, no offense. My crystall ball keeps saying 21-10 Denver.

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by Broncs55 on Sep 10, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, right....

Buncha crap itf you asl me…..

by Gulbrand on Sep 10, 2010 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

well... thats why I didn't ask you or anyone else

I was just telling what my crystal ball says, no need to be all angry. Just pointing out the facts. :D

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
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by Broncs55 on Sep 10, 2010 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

In fairness to Jacksonville

I suspect they’ll be better this year. They seem to have done a few things to improve their team.

Having said that, having a weak secondary against the Broncos doesn’t bode well for them.

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..."

by Alan_Smithee on Sep 10, 2010 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not sure if you are being sarcastic...

But if you are, don’t forget we have also ADDED players as well. We are injured, this is true. I don’t think we are any more or less so than any other team in the NFL right now though. I guess we’ll all find out come Sunday. Like Ray-Ray said, the game ain’t played with the mouth, it’s played once you buckle up that chin strap. I just look forward to a competitive game, with us coming out on top, and no more new injuries for either team.

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by grind_core on Sep 10, 2010 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be honest

I’m not really sure how that worked out either. Granted I think the Jaguars are going to win, but the media has done nothing but project us as a top 5 draft pick.

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by Adam Stites on Sep 10, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

actually from what i keep hearing

you guys are in the playoff contention with us not having a glimmer of hope lol

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
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by Broncs55 on Sep 10, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

It seems a stretch....

Since no one has seen the Denver D, not have they seen the Denver O. I really think the hullabaloo is rather touching, but I think there is a real game on. I would not be surprised if the loudest cheer of the day will be for Tebow when he completes his first pass….

The Jags fans are falling for the MSSM BS……

by Gulbrand on Sep 10, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

The loudest cheer of the day will not be for Tebow

Not even close. That’ll be the loudest boo of the day if anything. I don’t think y’all realize how much Jaguar fans hate that guy.

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by Adam Stites on Sep 10, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting statement

Why do Jaguar fans hate Tebow?

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by bradley on Sep 10, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll take a stab at the question...

Because he plays for the Broncos? :-)

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by Alan_Smithee on Sep 10, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

"Because he plays for the Broncos? :-)"

Read: “Sour Grapes.”

Fixt.

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by grind_core on Sep 10, 2010 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

That would only make sense if we wanted him prior to the draft

We didn’t. None of us did. Check the archives if you don’t believe.

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by Adam Stites on Sep 10, 2010 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

It was the endless mindless drabble from everyone saying that he would be taken by the Jaguars

It was never really Tebow’s fault as he never did anything wrong. But it was everyone saying he’d save the franchise and that he’d sell out the stadium that just got old. He’s not a good QB prospect. Period. Sorry if that offends you guys as Broncos fans, but our GM determined that he was clearly not worth the 10th pick and I really, really doubt he would’ve determined him to be worth a 2nd round pick. The fact that talking heads such as Kiper and Mayock would believe that the Jaguars would just forego the fact that he has obvious flaws in his passing technique because of what college he went to was infuriating.

That’s why in the months prior to the draft all of us over at BCC continued to tell everyone that it wouldn’t happen and when it didn’t, everyone still acted shocked. Jaguar fans never wanted Tebow. Gator fans did and that sucks for them.

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by Adam Stites on Sep 10, 2010 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Got it.

Thanks. That all makes sense, to me at least.

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by bradley on Sep 10, 2010 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm glad your GM determined it the way he did.

Now we have the next big thing in the NFL, IMHO.
And that sucks for you.

He’s not perfect, but everyone that comes in contact with him says the kid is special. That has to mean something. There have been other quarterbacks to play in the NFL that didn’t have the perfect techniques to suit the talking heads, as you also call them, and Tebow will be no different.

I don’t expect him to ever be a Tom Brady or a Peyton Manning. He will probably never be that quarterback. No, he has the potential to do something that is different from the norm and most people don’t think whatever that is will be very succesful, well I don’t see any reason it won’t be. Don’t count your chickens kind of thing.

Tebow is already the number one jersey in the NFL. The kid inspires and people like that and flock to him because of it like moths to a flame. There is an electricity about him that I haven’t felt since Elway left. I did not say he is or will ever be John Elway. But the FEELING is pretty much the same. I don’t know what else to tell you. See ya sunday.

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by grind_core on Sep 10, 2010 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Interesting

I can understand how you guys would get sick of the chatter. Especially when Tebow was concerned, considering how much attention he was getting as an individual. Annoying for sure.

I wonder though, when you say he’s “not a good QB prospect. Period”, have you seen him play in the pre-season at all?

If not, his play would suggest that he indeed a good QB prospect, so you might want to ease up on the definitive declarations. See, it’s early. Nobody really knows yet, but we Bronco fans have seen enough to be encouraged about the QB prospect that is Tim Tebow.

FYI, John Elway also had obvious flaws (patting the ball) in his passing technique, as have other successful NFL QBs. Perfect passing technique isn’t the end-all, be-all. If it was, Ryan Leaf would hold many NFL records.

That same GM you mention also determined that Tyson Alualu WAS worth the 10th pick, an evaluation that many Jags fans and others have heavily questioned, as has been admitted in this post. So, perhaps keeping a little perspective there would be helpful.

Jags fans may not have wanted him, but you may end up regretting it. Time will tell, but we’re encouraged.

by AllBroncsallday on Sep 10, 2010 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

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