NFL Week 1 - Denver Broncos Depth Chart
by Todd Jewell on Sep 6, 2010 10:17 PM MDT
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The Broncos website has released the new depth chart for the start of the season. Read below the break for some of the surprises!
| POS |
FIRST | SECOND | THIRD | OTHER |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| LDE | Ryan McBean | Marcus Thomas | ||
| NT | Jamal Williams | Ronald Fields | Marcus Thomas | |
| RDE | Justin Bannan | Le Kevin Smith | ||
| OLB | Jason Hunter | Jarvis Moss | ||
| RILB | D.J. Williams | Wesley Woodyard | ||
| LILB | Mario Haggan | Joe Mays | ||
| OLB | Robert Ayers | Jarvis Moss | ||
| LCB | Champ Bailey | Perrish Cox | Syd'Quan Thompson | |
| SS | Renaldo Hill | David Bruton | ||
| FS | Brian Dawkins | Darcel McBath | ||
| RCB | Andre Goodman | Nate Jones |
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| POS | FIRST | SECOND | THIRD | OTHER |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| K | Matt Prater | Britton Colquitt | ||
| P | Britton Colquitt | Matt Prater | ||
| H | Britton Colquitt | Kyle Orton | ||
| PR | Eddie Royal | Perrish Cox | Matthew Willis | |
| KR | Eddie Royal | Perrish Cox | Matthew Willis | |
| LS | Lonie Paxton |
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So the surprises -- Beadles not starting, Daniels will be, kind of strange but Daniels did look good run blocking when he was in there.
Quinn still being the #2 QB. R Quinn getting moved to the #3 TE spot behind Gronkowski. I didn't see the TE switch happening, only because I thought R Quinn had performed to be expected in the Vikings game. Perhaps with his injury they want to give him a little more time? I also thought that B Quinn would be #3 behind Tebow. Jason Hunter also takes over the #1 spot from Moss. This actually provides me with some relief.
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I didn’t see Beadles play poorly in preseason. It’s disappointing to see his name so low on the depth chart.
Jason Hunter at #1 OLB? That is a massive drop off from Elvis, but I guess so in Jarvis Moss…. Oh well. Maybe he’ll play the run well. We’ll need to spend a pretty high draft pick at this spot in 2011.
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I think it’s more of a concern over the health of Harris’ ankle than a statement on Beadles. That is, they’re more comfortable with Beadles at RT w/ Daniels at LG than Beadles at LG and anyone else at RT.
And depth chart aside, I think if Harris can go but Clady can’t (or can’t go a full game), I hope we see Beadles at LT rather than Batiste or Clark.
by MD413 on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed............
Beadles not starting is,to me, more an indication of Harris’s health than Beadles production at guard. Also, I think Gronk is more of a receiver than Quinn at TE, which is why he is listed at #2 IMO.
CHARACTER, INTELLIGENCE, and HARD WORK often beats TALENT but what happens when you load up on all 4???????????
I assume Beadles is listed as 2nd string RT because
Harris probably won’t play against the Jags, so Beadles will start at RT. If Harris is back healthy then I bet he gets moved back to starting LG.
In general I think we will see a lot of guys rotating in on the D line and at Linebacker, so I expect to see Moss on the field some, same with Mayes and Woodyard.
good, yes
I have yet to see an injury report on Harris, but I assumed it was bad enough to keep him out for this game.
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He has a sprained ankle
Was on crutches, but for some reason I think he’ll be ready.
The eternal optimist, I am.
People that were at the game said he was walkingaround wi9th out crutches for the rest of the game. I don't know what to believe.
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Yeah, I thought it was Lendale that was the one with crutches after that game.
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by poorboywilly on Sep 7, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
I watched the replay on NFL Network...
…Mind you it was all blathering about the Vikings with their local announcers, although Mike Mayock added some value I suppose. Either way, on the play where Ryan’s ankle got rolled up you could actually hear him scream out. It was pretty gruesome to hear. What’s more concerning is that he played the next play and you could see on the replay that he was hurt very badly. I don’t know why these players want to tough it out! Knowshon did this exact same thing in preseason last year. Those extra plays after getting dinged can do more damage than they can imagine! Let’s hope he gets well.
by Lucky Mercenary on Sep 7, 2010 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
It depends on how this year plays out.
With Doom returning next year and Ayers having a potentially great year, we might be set for starters at OLB next near, and if some of these young guys really turn it on our depth might look fine too.
The positions that I DONT see getting better for us over the course of the year that will likely need to be addressed in 2011 are DL and RB. The vets on DL are going to get worn down holding up the fort this year and Williams may not have a good year in 2011 because of that.
Our high draft picks will go to the best players available at the positions of need, i’d expect RB and DL to top that list.
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by Alexander Wall on Sep 7, 2010 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep. NT, TE and LB all in the first two rounds. I agree with what’s been said about Zane. I think he’s starting RT if Harris isn’t in, starting LG if Harris is playing.
Hunter is a big surprise. But then again, after moving Haggan back inside the only real alternative was Moss. Jarvis sounded to have made huge strides early on in TC. That was the word, but I never really saw it.
Loosing Doom sucks. We’re def going to need to spend a couple high picks on front-seven next year. My guess is that it’s a NT and a dominant ILB.
It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!
Exactly
NT!!!!!!!!, 5 Tech – even though Bannan can hold the fort until he’s ready, ILB (that guy from N.C. sounds great to me), TE – a true balanced tight end (I’m so jealous of Gronkowski from New England, that guy is the next Witten), and a speed and/or power back. We might not need the power back if LenDale bounces back and I hope he does.
We’ll def need to address the back situation, but as long as KnowMo proves to be good this year, I don’t see us spending a high-resource to obtain another backup. This off-season proved that aged vets as backups are a dime a dozen. But yeah, we’ll need one.
I actually like Gresham more than Gronkowski, but I think I’ve seen him play a lot more so maybe that’s shading my opinion. Either way, NE drafts an early TE almost every year. McDaniels did that in his first year here, so I’d imagine we do it again next year – and it’s needed.
It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!
Brown may turn out to be quite a steal
It could be that Moreno gets well and Brown steps up. Which means we can concentrate on depth on both lines.
I don't think we need a high pick there
Doom and ayers seem like locks and if hunter plays well and moss steps up I don’t see the need for a high pick there over d line or ilb
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by BDAWKisaBRONC on Sep 6, 2010 10:29 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
McD better get his head out of his behind and let Royal catch passes!
Cox and Willis can handle the returns…
by bfree2bronc on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
+ bazillion
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by broncosmontana on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions
I think McD trusts Eddie not to put the ball on the ground
And maybe not so much with Cox and WIllis. I heard him say as much a little while back.
by bostonbroncofan on Sep 6, 2010 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Well hopefully this won't hamper his duties as a WR.
Whatever works when it comes to ball control. I just hope he isn’t expended too much.
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I think we will see the rookies quite a bit
in favorable field situations. when the ball is punted down towards the endzone, I bet Eddie will be there until the kids get more seasoning. IMO.
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I agree
I hate watching Eddie back there on punts because of the vulnerability a returner has while watching the ball in the air. Once he’s off and running, I usually remember to breathe LOL
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A big factor:
Something I think needs to be said about our WR this year is that the WRs we play each Sunday may vary from week to week. Certain teams may give us more shots downfield so activating Willis and leaving a guy like Decker on the sideline more or letting Royal handle punts is not that far fetched.
I think the gameplan going into each week may have a lot to do with who is returning punts/kicks and who we play at WR in each position be it slot or what-have-you. Because our guys are all equally versatile and all fairly talented I think we can always keep our opponents guessing. It’s a good situation to be in.
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by Alexander Wall on Sep 7, 2010 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Word is that Cox
is still dropping the occasional kick in practice, which Royal does not, and McD is not willing to risk putting someone back there who’s going to potentially fumble a return. I can’t blame him for that. A fumbled kick return is one of the most devastating plays that can happen. If it means running Royal out there for a while longer until Cox or Willis demonstrates the required consistency, I’m willing to live with that, even if it means a slightly less effective Royal. We’ve got a deep and talented WR core, we don’t need Royal to catch the ball every play.
doh!
great minds….
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don't qoute me on this
but I think both Willis and Cox muffed or juggled at least one each. I’m not sure Willis actually DROPPED one though.
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Is it just me or did anyone else think that Squid looked like our best kick returner?
He just seemed to have the most burst and seemed very elusive. I’m honestly surprised to see Royal returning both kickoffs and punts. I would rather let Cox and Squid show what they can do. Let Eddie have fresh legs to start each drive.
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If Royal is the best returner....
then why not use him there.
I like Decker better in the slot from what I’ve seen.
And Gaffney, Lloyd, Willis and Thomas to stretch the field.
Royal’s perfect spot on the team may be as returner and #2 slot.
by ivanthenotsobad on Sep 7, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions
Beadles listed as backup RT, not LG, because he will be playing in place of an injured Ryan Harris at RT on Sunday? Just a thought. I’ve got to think he would at least be ahead of Olsen at LG if they were strictly listing the players in the order they would play at each position.
this may be the case
i’ve seen people on twitter referencing this on twitter, but have not seen any confirmation of this.
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by neckbeard's nephew on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
Dumervil WILL be back and by this time next year Ayers, Moss and Hunter will be vastly improved (you have to realize that two 1st rounders are tied to this positon – let them develop). I believe our draft focus next year should be on the DL and ILB positions. This next draft class seems like it has more 3-4 pieces than any in recent memory. We have neglected the D-Line and Mike Backers long enough. I also think it’s insane that Quinn is our #2 QB and Eddie is still the main returner. Hopefully McDaniels knows something we don’t.
Other Needs
A power back or speed back wouldn’t hurt either. I would love to nab Noel Devine next year – the kid is going to be a SPECIAL player.
what the heck?
Why is Zane Beadles so far down on the depth chart??
I don’t get it….Why is Gronkowski ahead of Richard already without even practicing with the team?
Why is Eddie Royal still the primary returner?
I understand Moss isn’t good against the run…but I don’t remember Hunter being all that great against the run.
and lastly,
WHY THE HECK IS TEBOW STILL THE 3RD STRING QB?!
I am so confused…
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Quinn has starting experience
is the only reason I see him being #2.
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Quinn has getting sacked experience
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
So, can he get some experience in something else....please.
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McD always says he puts the best players at the position
That’s why he’s #2.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Maybe he's putting Quinn
in the best position for a future trade?
So I see you rolled your way into the semis?
by OutOfYourElement on Sep 7, 2010 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Maybe
But I think McD is ordering it according to how most coaches do, in order who you want to start. I’m completely for Tebow in the future, and I don’t think Quinn has a long future here, but at this point, Quinn seems like the best choice, and McD seems to feel the same.
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Not sure I put so much weight into the depth chart
it’s not like the coaches are bound by it during the game.
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Except the QB position right?
I believe if you put your #3 QB in the game, you cannot put your #2 or #1 back in later.
Does anyone know the rule on that?
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yes, there have been
entire articles on this subject.
the breakdown is as such….
if the #3 QB is INACTIVE for the game, he cannot come in until the 4th Q or the other QB’s cannot play the rest of the game.
if the #3 QB is ACTIVE for the game, then there is NO hindrance to his usage whatsoever
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this has nothing to do with the depth chart though
The depth chart below may not be the same as game day designations. It is not like the Broncos must follow the above depth chart in a game. The chart, in reality, means nothing except to elicit conversation amongst people like us.
by Horse Head Bookends on Sep 7, 2010 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions
As long as Tebow is bobbling snaps, I don't think he'll be #2
All offseason I heard that McDaniels was going to use Tebow as a change-of-pace QB who can run in short yardage. If there’s any question about him holding on to the ball when coming in cold, Tebow won’t sniff the field.
Another Thought on Royal
With the emergence of Decker, the slot duties are going to be split in half which in return gives Royal more time being the monster returner he is. I also think McDaniels is worried about the rooks coughing up the ball.
perfect
this is exactly it. As excited as we are about Cox and Squid taking over return duties, lets not forget that Eddie is probably our BEST all around returner. It isn’t a toss away job and you can bet your booty that Eddie WANTS to return kicks, and won’t give up the job without a fight!
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by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Jeremy
Another reason we shouldn’t worry about Eddie returning this year is that he won’t need to be the sole returner. With the emergence of Cox & Thompson we might see a different return man on every return – a rotation if you will. Someone earlier proposed that Eddie might be trade bait (with Decker looking so promising). I don’t see that. McDaniels is a passing game guru and loves collecting receivers as Shanny did RB’s. There is plenty of love to pass around to receivers and returners in this System. No Way is Eddie Royal traded.
nice
In an ideal world, Beadles should be our sixth-man utility lineman anyway. He’s very good, if we have five players better than him, we’re in excellent shape, and we could in the future get away with only having seven or eight linemen on the roster.
I don’t mind at all that Quinn is #2. For quarterback at least, I have blind trust that McD’s judgment is better than ours. I’ve seen so much reinforced conventional wisdom that Tebow will get special packages every game this season that I’ll get some perverse satisfaction out of seeing him inactive. Yes, I did just use “special packages” and “perverse” in the same sentence. All that said, I’m still a big fan of Tebow.
I feel rather freaked out about our lack of experience, but have optimism about Mays and Hunter for 3-4 games down the line. What’s nice is I don’t see any clear dogs on the roster right now. If things gel, we have some nice upside here.
I really think Royal is going to end up being tradebait.
Yummmmm!
Yes, I did just use "special packages" and "perverse" in the same sentence.
Next time I’m in the red light district, you know I’m going to ask for the perverse special packages.
Very exciting!
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by Santa Fe Bronc on Sep 6, 2010 11:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Another thought about Quinn
Not that McD cares about the media storm, but putting Tebow #3 precludes him from having to address a million Tebow/Quinn/Orton QB controversy questions. Tebow will see the field just like you said, in special packages. But just like when Orton got popped the other week, Quinn is the guy to go in immediately and hand off the ball to the RB.
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I want D-thomas starting!!
Lloyd had some good games but i want to see wat this kid can do
My thoughts exactly
even though I think Lloyd is a grown man now. People need to realize that he started his repoire with Orton back in Chicago – it’s only gotten better. Jabar Gaffney would be a solid #2 and Royal and Decker can round it out in the slot. Lloyd and Willis will get theirs even if they never start. This offense is designed to spread the wealth often.
Let's let him PLAY first
He needs to be on the field before he’s named starter. He’ll get some looks — we go 5 wide and the dude’s a definite deep threat. He’ll get his day to win the job. ‘Starter’ doesn’t really mean a whole lot in this offense at the WR position, anyway.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 4:37 AM MDT up reply actions
+1
This isn’t Shanny’s holiday resort anymore, where players come in and are automatically handed their starting jobs. Let him earn it.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 7, 2010 4:47 AM MDT up reply actions
That said,
I fully am expecting the kid to beat out Lloyd at some point based on what I’ve seen from him. His ceiling is somewhere near Venus, IMHO.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 5:39 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 7, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
llike he's handing Haynesworth his job?
lame
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by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 7, 2010 6:16 AM MDT up reply actions
I realize Thomas is our 1st pick of the draft
He hasn’t caught a ball yet, Lloyd is likely less rusty, more reliable, and a better option now.
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Gaffney
How on Earth did Gaffney fall behind Lloyd / Royal and get listed as the number 3? Anyone else think this is ridiculous?
Yeah.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 7, 2010 4:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Hey guys I just wanted to stop in and say hey after the Phons / Gronk trade.
I would have posted sooner but had to wait out the 24 hour timer. I did some research on Alphonso and I am excited to get him, we desperately need help at nickle. Dre Bly is a baller but a defensive lineman caught him from behind on that int, that is sloooooow.
So here is the skinny for you guys on Gronkowski. He is a big dude, totally a physical specimen. He played college ball in Maryland and we took a late round flier on him last year. He looked good in preseason but the Lions put him on the Practice Squad, to this day I don’t know why. It pissed me off at the time. So he had a year there for us last year.
This year in the preseason he has been a beast. He is a great run blocker and a good pass blocker. The one knock on him last year was that he could not do anything but block, he did show some stone hands. That seems to have been remedied by his year on the squad. He has been running nice routes and even made a acrobatic catch in the end zone that was called back on a penalty last preseason game. The only reason he could not break our roster is Brandon Pettigrew, they have a similar game now.
Gronk is not like Scheffler at all, he fits your offense much better as he is mainly a blocker and can also run the mid to short routes. He is not fast enough to be a real down field threat but he can easily be a red zone threat. I don’t think there is any linebacker or safety in the league that can hang with him on a physical battle. Anyways GL to you guys and Gronk, he was loved in Detroit by the fans but just couldn’t break the roster.
Also if any of you find out what the swapped draft picks were please drop by the Pride of Detroit and let us Lions fans know. Our front office is like the freaking CIA with information.
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 6, 2010 10:48 PM MDT reply actions 16 recs
awesome!
thanks for the info, evilsmurf! I’m afraid you won’t get reliable information from us on Phonz, he really split our community. I tend to think that he’s got great upside. I don’t know if the negative pressure regarding his pick value ever reached Phonz’s head, but if it did, this probably wasn’t the best atmosphere for him anyway. I’m sure at some point down the line, Phonz will perform very well, and some knuckleheads will attempt to make the case that McD was stupid both to draft him AND trade him away.
by tunesmith on Sep 6, 2010 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
He will be an upgrade from Dre Bly for sure
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thats not for sure....
I mean bly has experience that phonz doesn’t, and returned a huge pick against us in the pre-season. Also I’m pretty sure bly is not scared of hits like phonz…..
I think he is a long term replacement def. but I don’t think he is an immediate upgrade…
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Love the drive-by post
Thanks for the low-down on our new TE. Good luck with Smith. He definitely has the potential to contribute to your team. Expect up and downs with him…he’s not a steady player yet at all. He will make INTs one minute and get burned the next. I hope he grows out of that quickly for you.
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He’s got four picks in the first two games for me! Woot
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This might be the perfect example of a win-win trade
We had too many CB’s and you guys had too many TE’s. Both appear to be good fits for their neew teams. Good luck with Phonz and thanks for your input on Gronk!
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Thoughts on Jason Hunter...
I thought he looked alot like Mario Haggan Playing outside against the run holding up tightends and tackles Setting the edge. I doubt he can be an effective pass rusher but we can bring in Jarvis moss on 3rd Down.
Hunter beefed up with us (Lions) to play defensive end he ran something like a 4.55 before so if he slims down a bit he might surprise you guys
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With 5 sacks last year
I believe Hunter had more than the entire rest of the current Broncos combined. Transition to OLB might be rough, but he’s definitely got a lot of pass rush potential.
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Jason had 5 sacs last year for the Lions that is correct. Week 2 Minnesota, week 3 Washington, and then the last 3 games of the year 1 sack in each against Arizona, San Francisco, and Chicago. He also had 3 pass deflections. His stats are a bit misleading because he missed a couple of games from minor injuries and when he came back he was platooned until he regained the coaching staffs faith. He really only seen a large amount of playing time in those first 3 games and last 6. He hardly played at all for 2 games. And those 5 games in the middle he split time with Jared DeVries and Turk McBride. Effectively I would say his 5 sacks came over about 10 games of playtime. If he was not banged up and played regularly he would have produced more.
Jason was also very loved here in Detroit. Many fans were very unhappy to lose him but it was just a numbers game. We traded for former first round pick Lawrence Jackson (Seattle) and our 7th round pick this year Willie Young has looked really good. The Lions cut Jason early so he could catch on with another team before the big cut day push, and get some playtime with them hopefully before cuts. They did it out of respect for his service here. When we cut him I joked that Jacksonville would pick him up because he is good friends with Aaron Kampman. Anyways GL to you guys and Jason! Hope he fills that loss of Elvis or at least lessens it.
Oh P.S. it was a 4.88 out of college he ran, he has good burst for a big guy.
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 7, 2010 1:07 AM MDT up reply actions 6 recs
really appreciate you coming by
very classy.
Thanks a lot.
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by Nick Cast on Sep 7, 2010 1:34 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
stop by anytime, smurf
And we wish Phonz the best in Detroit. For some reason he just never performed well enough here. Maybe a new home will bring him around. Hopefully this is a deal with no losers.
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And Phonz does have a pretty good nose for the ball
I’d love to see him run into a couple of Jay Cutler passes this year…
Good luck to the Lions!
Orton to Gaffney, all day long...
Tebow
I guess this shows McD’s devotion to letting Tebow redshirt and learn to be a pocket passer. I can’t deny that I was excited at the prospect of Tebow running some “Wild Horse” and in on short yardage/red zone running plays. Guess not.
I was surprised we didn't see any of that in preseason...
The pieces are in place for sure and I feel that McD/Wink didn’t show a lot of their hand and will pull some surprises this year. Or, maybe not…I guess we’ll have to wait and see…shucks!
I also remember
McDaniels talking about possibly doing some things on the field this year that had never been done before at this level in a press conference. Hopefully they’re just playing it close to the vest. I am of the mind that Tebow should do what Tebow does and that’s an equal dose of death running and passing. Who knows maybe the triple option is coming to the big show. People are making way too much of a deal over Tebows bruised ribs on that TD scamper. If Tebow was the starter and it was the regular season, he would have played with that injury. Everyone underestimates the toughness and blazing fire in that kids soul. He is Mike Alstott and Steve Young morphed into one. Tebow should run the ball in 2010….
Death running?
lol Best predictive-text screwup evah? :)
by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 4:43 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL, that's what I meant
Equal dose of death – running the ball and passing the ball. Sorry, I get a little excited sometimes. TIIMMMAYYYY.
You have to take into account Vick was listed as #3 with the Eagles
It didn’t stop them from using him.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Why?
I saw nothing out of LeKevin Smith in the pre-season to warrant a spot over Chris Baker. At least Baker had upside.
LeKevin Smith?!
the only black horse in the roster IMO. I have no idea how he’s stuck around for so long. I hope we find someone in free agency that we can replace him with. Maybe one of those vikings DL’s. who knows? but anyone is better.
I still hold out hope that, once the offensive line stabilizes a bit...
…we bring Baker back.
I have noo idea why we released Darrell Reid!!
If his injury wasnt coming along then we should have put him on the PUP list! He was a beast in Special teams and he was our 3rd Down pass rusher from the inside!
Who would you cut to keep him?
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 7, 2010 4:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Yea special team wise he did become expendable...
But i thought his contribution as a 3rd down pass rusher was solid last year! Who will our 2 inside guys be on 3rd down?? All pre season i thought it would be Jarvis green and Reid but both got the ax
I think this list is a floating list
and meant to be where the team is at for week 1.
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I'm pretty sure you are correct Kaptain.
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good point
gronkowski over quinn indicates as much…Quinn may be too dinged up to be reliably projected into the gameplan for Sunday. As to playbook familiarity…. They are probably planning on lots of runblocking for Gronk if Quinn can’t go.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 6, 2010 11:42 PM MDT up reply actions
The Beadles move
makes sense right now since both of our stud tackles are nicked up. Zane will probably end up back at LG if Stanley Daniels doesn’t pan out. I like Daniel’s though and I’m not sure if we can count him out. He looks like he could be a nice contributer in the ground game and he reminds me of Vladmir Ducasse. No matter who’s playing swing tackle or LG, it’s a much better option than Hamilton/Polumbus.
I also understand Hunter surpassing Moss. Hunter seems like a more viable option vs. the run and Moss’ talents will not be wasted in nickle situations.
Quinn over Tebow, Royal over Cox/Thompson/Vaughn on the other hand leaves me scratching my head a little. OK a whole lot with Quinn. Quinn showed one tiny glimpse in the pre-season while Tebow looked like he had the fire in him. I know he made some mistakes but overall was more effictive. His determination alone should make him our #2.
If there's one thing I've learned about the McD coaching concept
it’s that Monday depth charts mean nothing. :) I fully believe that Cox or Thompson will be the starting KR/PR come game day, and Tebow will probably be the #2 QB.
Comparing Michael Lombardi to Bill Williamson is like comparing an In-N-Out Cheeseburger to a sh## sandwich.
Williamson would probably eat both – no questions asked.
The Depth Chart and Active Roster are Different
The depth chart and active roster are very different. While Tebow will be the 2nd ACTIVE QB on gamedays Brady Quinn is Coach McDaniels chosen 2nd string QB and backup to Kyle Orton. On gamedays all 3 QB’s will be dressed, but Orton and Tebow will be active, with Quinn listed as the emergancy QB. If Orton is injured before the 3rd quarter then Quinn would be able to replace him and Tebow and Orton are lost for the game. This is what Miami did with Pat White last season. Even though Henne was the backup QB, White was active on gamedays. In game 3, when pennington was injured Henne replaced him. This is also what the Eagles did with Kolb and Vick on gamedays.
by Mike Riley322 on Sep 7, 2010 2:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks
for clearing that up for me. I have a feeling that Tebow is what Pat White was supposed to be for the Wildcat. The one guy that will truly revolutionize the formation as he is equally deadly to throw – and throw more often. Pat White is my boy and he put my Mountaineers back on the map, but has no endurance to take a major league hit. Tebow is gonna revolutionize football in some manner – we will all just have to wait and see. In the meantime, Orton is gonna do “Bradyish” things.
Sorry
to anyone who thinks I’m talking about Tebow too much. I love Orton too and I’m extremely happy that he’s the starter. How can you not get excited at prospect of Timmy though?
+1
No need to apologize about Tebow, bro. I loves me some Timmy, too. He has tremendous upside and our future QB, IMO. Broncos fans should be excited.
by Gristle McThornbody on Sep 7, 2010 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions
It's been mentioned before, and would be worth talking about here again...
If McD has to choose between two players of roughly equal skill, he will go with the vet over the rookie. This may be the case with Daniels vs. Beadles (amongst other reasons).
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 7, 2010 3:26 AM MDT reply actions
Also Quinn vs. Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 AM MDT up reply actions
We made off like bandits on this Chris Clark waiver pickup IF:
1. He can play a lick at Left Tackle
AND
2. We NEVER have to find out
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by gahoagie on Sep 7, 2010 3:28 AM MDT reply actions 3 recs
We knew too much about Tyler Polumbus
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by littletinybroncos on Sep 7, 2010 4:05 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Polumbus may be starting for Seattle in week 1 and 2 (vs Denver).
Too funny. I take back my comment about Denver having the worst backup O-linemen in the NFL.
An orange pylon > Batiste > Polumbus
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Perhaps
this is the real reason Gibbs quit his job with the Seahawks. He was jumping off before the train wreck.
Tebow and the Wild Horses
I know I’m in the minority here, but I would be extremely surprised to see Tebow in on gamedays running the ball. From what little evidence we’ve seen in the preseason, it looks to me like the Broncos are trying to curb Tebow’s penchant for running, not encourage it. Sure, if the play breaks down and there is an opening, take it, which we saw him do in the Minnesota game. But they’ve also been clearly teaching him to dump the ball and live to play again. We saw that in the Minn. game too. Though he’s big, Tebow is not a running back, period. The shot to the ribs that he would’ve “played through” in the regular season was also a warning, this is the NFL, not the SEC. There is still a difference. McDaniels is not stupid enough, IMO, to purposely put Tebow in as a serious run option. I’ll be surprised if he is used in the special packages that everyone is imagining.
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
I don't see them trying to curb his running
Just trying to work on his weakness. I think that they want him to be a true dual threat who can really open up the game. To be that he needs to really add the pocket passing part.
If putting Tebow out there for a few plays confuses the defense....
….then I’m all for a few Wildhorse packages.
by Gristle McThornbody on Sep 7, 2010 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions
I tend to agree with pubkeeper
I have heard everyone talking about 6 to 10 plays of special packages and wildhorses type plays every game for Tebow, but I just don’t see it. Sure he can run but I don’t think McD brought him here for that. I think he brought him here to learn the offense for a year and then challenge Orton next year. I think he brought him here for his brains and other “intangables”. Time will tell, and yes I know most people will disagree.
I agree that they brought Tebow here for a long term solution at QB. I really don’t disagree with your points at all.
But what I meant by a few Wildhorse packages was just that, “a few”. Last year, during the NE game, they ran it with Knowshon what, 3-4 times before the Pats finally caught on? That’s what I’d like to see. Nothing too extensive to take away from Orton’s time out there (’cause I think he will do well).
But yes, I absolutely agree that they brought Tim here to be a passing QB and challenge next year. It’s just maybe if you can give a defense the occasional different look, it might benefit you.
by Gristle McThornbody on Sep 8, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
The Great Shell Game.....
McDaniels is just like Shanahan in one respect – the only reason a depth chart is put in print is because the NFL requires it..
These conversations about who is where and why remind me exactly of the same conversations that took place the day after Shanny released the required Depth chart. Shanny and now Coach McD do not want to give the opposition any real idea about what to expect on Opening Day.
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No doubt that Tebow will play
Picture this: First game in Jacksonville. Clady not playing. Harris not playing. The Broncos have been moving the ball through the air, and hitting on some runs, but without a big power back (Brown out with turf toe), they have failed on 3rd and short (see preseason absent White). The Broncos move down to the Jacksonville three yard line and it’s third down . . . are you telling me that they aren’t going to bring in T2 in this situation to roll-out and either hit the open receiver, pitch it, or, having gotten his 6’21/2" and 245 pounds at full speed, cut it into (and over if necessary) the defensive back coming up to make the tackle? I’m just saying . . .
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