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'The Big Vick' Brings The Mean

While we still don't  know who the Broncos will release to make room for Kevin Vickerson, rumor has it Le Kevin Smith will be released, if the thoughts from his most recent stop in the NFL mean anything, he could be a solid pickup - especially at a position of need for the Broncos.

Vickerson, who spent the past couple of season with the Tennessee Titans, certainly has knowledge of the Broncos Week 1 opponent - the Jacksonville Jaguars.

In a story from the August 13th, the Seattle PI called Vickerson a 'mountain of a man' and a 'large fellow with a mean streak when he's between the white lines'

To his credit, Vickerson likes it that way.

"They want me to be a big, nasty dude in the middle and that's what I am, you can't be nice in there. You've got to be a dominating force. You've got to have that mindset of coming out dominating every play, every day."

Vickerson also seems to have the right mindset for a defensive lineman.  Do whatever it takes.

"I'm a big dude," he said. "If they want somebody to take on two guys and clog the two-gap, that's what I'm going to do. If they want me to blitz or whatever, I'll do what they ask. I'm just trying to get it to where I can be an impact player."

Another 'team-first' player in the Broncos locker room.  You just can't have enough guys like 'The Big Vick'.

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This pick up makes me feel better

after letting Jarvis Green go.

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by KaptainKirk on Sep 7, 2010 9:32 AM MDT reply actions  

me 3!!

I guess they have put away there rose colored glasses. I was surprised Le Kevin, B Hall and Atkins made the 53 man cut. This is a big upgrade!! Great job McX

My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch

by 2010oc on Sep 7, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

goog bye Le Kevin

Didn’t really impress me anyway …

by isaiahkyler on Sep 7, 2010 9:35 AM MDT reply actions  

Agreed. The Kevin was always just there. Need impact guys on the D-line, hopefully Vickerson will bring that.

by Jordo5150 on Sep 7, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

LeKevin Smith

was the most uninspiring player on the team IMO. Vickerson at least has size – something.

by PaleHorse78 on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Josina Anderson confirms they let go of LeKevin

by Todd Jewell on Sep 7, 2010 9:36 AM MDT reply actions  

Le Kevin Nouveau?

Sorry, I don’t know French. In Spanish, I guess it’d be El Kevin Nuevo.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Oh Hell!

I just spit coffee all over my keyboard. Good one Bassist.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 7, 2010 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good One

As long as he doesn’t turn out to be La Kevin Nueva. If he is so good, why did he get dropped by Tennessee? Maybe he was just picked up for the Jacksonville game because of his prior experience against that team. Let’s see how long he lasts.

by opinion8r on Sep 7, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

It should be...

…Le Nouveau Kevin or El Nuevo Kevin. You English people always put the words in the wrong order ;)

Good move…GO BRONCOS

by macklure on Sep 7, 2010 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Actually

Kevin El Nuevo
or Kevin La Nueva (depending on how he plays)

by opinion8r on Sep 7, 2010 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Actually (mwa ha ha)

El Kevin Nuevo
or La Kevin Nueva

I like big mean d linemen, time will tell if he can contribute or not.

by Mcbeth149 on Sep 7, 2010 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Funny

I was just reading the thread about the new Depth Chart and everyone was wondering how LKS was still with the team.

Well, there you go. One less thing to worry about :)

I don’t know much about Vickerson, but I hope he fits right in.

~Davus.X~
Est. 1967
"Bleeding Orange and Blue for 43 years"

by Davus.X on Sep 7, 2010 9:41 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Well....

I’ll preface by saying that this isn’t directed at you, just a general observation… ;)

Believe it or not the coaches look at the depth chart too. Just because they don’t take action on everything and everyone at once doesn’t mean they don’t intend to, or are not aware of it.

This isn’t fantasy football.

You're either a fan or you're not.

by TheMastermind on Sep 7, 2010 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?

by ChristianL on Sep 7, 2010 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Waiver Wire

A few questions this weekend about the pick up of the OL off the waiver wire from MN, that apparently the MN fans could not wait to get rid of. We assume that this pick up was the McD/Xanders first choice. Probably NOT!
Remember that there is competition on waiver wire pick ups – and apparently Denver lost out on some more high profile OL picks – and hence Clark in my eyes is more of and insurance pick up.

Practice Squad picks ups are more negotiated through a players agent = as multiple offers are compared by the player and agent to figure out the best fit for the player

TIME TO BELIEVE. BRONCO Champions are being forged as we speak

by Broncobh on Sep 7, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Broncobh...

This is why I kept wondering (and asking) if there was any way to access the data regarding who else we tried for…appparently there isn’t.

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I think it’s best to leave the stressful decisions to those who get paid to make them.

I say “one less thing to worry about” as a response to all those who feel the need to worry about the decisions making at Broncos HQ. Me, personally, I don’t really start to worry until the season is in full swing and I’m shown that there’s something specific to worry about.

While I know a bit about football, I’m not much of a talent evaluator. Unless it’s a totally obvious situation, I usually rely on the good folks here at MHR to let me know which players are the ones to watch :)

~Davus.X~
Est. 1967
"Bleeding Orange and Blue for 43 years"

by Davus.X on Sep 7, 2010 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

One less thing to worry about...

“At least we have the sofa problem handled…”

Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 7, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Then the right set of dishes.

“Then the perfect bed. The drapes. The rug. Then you’re trapped in your lovely nest, and the things you used to own, now they own you.”

grin Love it :)

~Davus.X~
Est. 1967
"Bleeding Orange and Blue for 43 years"

by Davus.X on Sep 7, 2010 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Something to mention about the lack of DL depth

don’t forget that the Broncos play in Nickel coverages about 50% of the time. And in nickel coverages, you see a lot of different players lineing up on the DL…i.e. Robert Ayers will line up as a DE or a NT, Bannan may shift to NT, Jarvis Moss may play some DE. We saw this quite a bit in preseason.
I expect that is why we don’t have as many DL as last year.

by black_knight101 on Sep 7, 2010 9:47 AM MDT reply actions  

Excellent Point...

Last year, guys like Ayers and D Reid were always lining up as interior lineman, often—like you said—as NT. It was one of the reasons we were gashed in the second half of the season last year— teams would go no-huddle on our nickel and our front seven was something like Holliday-Reid-Thomas-Ayers-DJ-Woody-DOOM. Teams would convert a first down and run it down the throat of that personnel grouping.

I didn’t notice in the preseason, but it will be interesting to see how Wink runs the nickel. Will Haggen on the field in those situations? Will they substitute pass rush DEs in as well? Like I said above, the entire lineup changed when we went to nickel, Woody for Davis, Ayers for Haggen, Reid for Fields, Holiday for McBean, Thomas for Peterson, etc. If I’m not mistaken, it seemed the 4-3 nickel adjustment was far less complex under Shanny. Didn’t he mainly just pull the SAM backer in favor of the extra DB? Again reaching here, but maybe that was McD’s problem with Nolan.

Did anyone else notice the nickel packages in the exhibition games? Like you black knight, I noticed Ayers over center a couple times, but not sure about the extent of the substitutions.

Won't bow. Don't know how.

by ButteBronco on Sep 7, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

last year we used to line up

Vonnie Holliday and Darrell Reid over center on 3rd downs and other nickle opps. Looks like Ayers has learned to do something that will get him on the field for more downs…

Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 7, 2010 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

I only got to watch one game

and was so happy about it that I wasn’t paying really close attention to personnel groupings. I wish I had, though. I’m still wondering what the front-seven rotations and packages will look like.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ayers

Ayers had his most productivity lined up as a DL rather than rushing as a LB. He almost always beat the Tackle off the ball. He just could not get his hands on the QB. He was a wiffer.

by kimbertr on Sep 7, 2010 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ayers

did seem better in a 3 point. I think we’ll run alot more 4 man fronts this year. Ayers/Hunter at LE, Moss/McBean at RE, Jamal and Bannan in the middle – could be nasty.

by PaleHorse78 on Sep 7, 2010 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

he is only an inch taller than Ratliff, Jenkins and Ngata

"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson

by SteveUK on Sep 7, 2010 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

He can bat down more passes. I’ve seen this guy play a bit and I like this move.

Denver: 32-32 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Sep 7, 2010 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

True dat, JeffG, not many examples his height to pioint at.

….sometimes I wonder if our concept of the prototype at this position is due to the size of the available players, rather than to (for example) the height being a true disadvantage. There just may not be many 6-6 guys with mass and meanness out there…especially with the athletisicm to be in the elite at the position.

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hope he works out

but I guy that’s bounced around from team to team is probably not an impact player. Hopefully he just hasn’t found his home yet and Milehigh happens to be it.

GO BRONCOS!!!

by go4broncos on Sep 7, 2010 10:02 AM MDT reply actions  

two words Jason Jones

the only reason he was “traded” from TEN was because J Jones is an absolute beast

My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch

by 2010oc on Sep 7, 2010 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Without Phonz around, LeKevin Smith and Batiste hold court as my least favorite Broncos.

So cutting LeKevin won’t keep me awake at night.

McD and I are becoming better buds all the time.

Denver: 32-32 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Sep 7, 2010 10:24 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Batiste played his way onto the roster

Not so much at right tackle but he did good at guard and LT. I believe he is our first backup if anyone goes down. I hope Beadles go to right tackle because there was a big difference in Batiste from RT to LT

My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch

by 2010oc on Sep 7, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

This!

Just watched the last preseason game, and this rings true. I think Seth Olsen played his way off the team by being one of the best LG subs, but acting as an absolute sieve at any other spot on the line. Meanwhile Batiste was equally marginal at all the spots at which they put him.

I really liked Beadles a lot more as a T in the preseason – thought he looked more comfortable there. Perhaps he is a long term solution at RT since Harris doesn’t seem to be able to stay on the field.

by jonahsilas on Sep 7, 2010 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

jonah is reading my mind!

Get out of my head Jonah!!

Bear Claw Chris Lapp: You've come far pilgrim.
Jeremiah Johnson: Feels like far.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp: Were it worth the trouble?
Jeremiah Johnson: What trouble?

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 7, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good thing he isn't reading my mind

Because its a picture book! short read my friends.

by BroncoFanInLakewood on Sep 7, 2010 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Busted!

I thought my analysis seemed too spot on to be my own. Time to disconnect my Internet-enabled opinion-sucking machine and start developing my own.



That’s better. In related news, beer is good. Phew – back to normal. ;-)

by jonahsilas on Sep 7, 2010 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

yup, I thought you'd like this move, at least better than keeping LKS. :)

We’re still not there yet. One more move would be nice, but we’re running down on time and options, aren’t we?

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

The final roster cutdowns and moves last Saturday were bizarre, but patience is not a virtue of mine.

Seeing us rid our active roster of Hall and LeKevin is a great start. Those guys are negative value to our roster. I’ll feel complete when we cut Batiste.

Denver: 32-32 until we're not.

by McGeorge on Sep 7, 2010 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

agreed

however I would take Batiste over Polumbus anyday.

I’m really thankful Polumbus is gone!

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
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by Broncs55 on Sep 7, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

patience you may not show, McG, but you called out your view of the weak links, and thus far the coaches agree.

Always appreciate your talent evaluation…. even on Smith my biggest disagreement was on how long before we called him a fail. Here again, the coachs’ assessments were closer to yours than mine, as I would have given him one more year. It does pay to listen to your arguments, McG, even if it hurts.

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly what I have been thinking.

It seemed like you caught a bunch of crap a couple of days ago, but I was impressed that within just a few hours after you said they were weak at running back and offensive line, they actually went out and picked up those two positions on waivers.

by Quietone on Sep 7, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

coincidence? ;)

Dove Valley lurkers….?? Thank goodness I openly admit my vast ignorance re: football, roster building, positional strength, etc.

I just love the varied viewpoints and opinions…..

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by HockeyHippie on Sep 7, 2010 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Even if just lucky, which I doubt,

I feel I have to hand it to McG for the ferver with which he puts forth his views. He could take the easy way out, and state his opinions blandly, and then have them lost amongst the other posts….No, thatt is definitely not McG. Because of this, you can be sure that if Phonz had worked out, McG would have taken an oil tanker’s worth of crap from those who disagreed with him; so fair is fair…he gets credit when he gets it right..

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

This.

I was obviously hoping Alphonso would work out as well, but oh well…

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by HockeyHippie on Sep 7, 2010 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Phonze may yet work out at Detroit...

but the water was pretty muddy here….may it work out best for both teams.

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Detroit fans

Were super high on Gronkowski and Jason Hunter – fan favorites

by PaleHorse78 on Sep 7, 2010 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

This.

I lol’ed.

Take my advice, I'm not using it !!!

by grind_core on Sep 7, 2010 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

So he said all those things last year about himself to draw is in

INGENIOUS!

I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"

by dmitchell624 on Sep 7, 2010 6:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Could be???

I’ve never seen them both together at the same time. Coincidence??? I think not.

"as in football so in life"

by asinsoin on Sep 7, 2010 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think what I like most about this pickup is...

McX is constantly looking for ways to make this team better.

I don’t ever remember Shanahan constantly improving our depth the way McX has in the last 2 years. Maybe its my mental mistake, but we are constantly shuffling and improving players.

This is how dynasties are created.

Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?

by ChristianL on Sep 7, 2010 10:27 AM MDT reply actions  

part of that has to do with the fact that it requires a lot more shuffling/turnover when a new regime is in place

you’ve gotta find players that fit what you want to run. the turnover will probably be a lot less next year. but it certainly does seem like McD is constantly trying to improve our team.

by black_knight101 on Sep 7, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Counterview

This move is probably fine, but let me sound a countering view that too much turnover is not healthy for a team. When players feel like they are one injury or one bad game away from being thrown on the scrapheap, they tend to play a little more tentatively and not to lose rather than assertively and aggressively.

One thing I liked about the Broncos of recent years was stability. I hope that the massive transition slows down and loyalty becomes a prized value.

Shanahan was often loyal in most areas but oddly enough not on the defensive line. I think it hurt him not getting players he liked and sticking with them.

Again, just my odd duck countering view.

by Baltimore Bronco on Sep 7, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

very true

but McD hasn’t gotten rid of players because they had an injury or a bad game/play. He’s gotten rid of them because of “me first” attitudes consistently sucking.

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
PS3 ID: KoRnHo|ed

by Broncs55 on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Counter Counterview

When you have players that give their all and are constantly striving to get better they better be sure that the Coach is doing everything in his power to make the team better.

The message he is sending to his team is play hard and prove you deserve to be here and you will – if not they will find someone who will.

That’s how you have to manage things or people get comfortable and comfort is responsible for more draft busts than faulty talent evaluation.

Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?

by ChristianL on Sep 7, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

McD has also seemed to treat former players fairly plus our new systems will not change

As an example in helping players get traded to teams they liked.

We are also not going to change our systems now for years, so that should lesson some starter turnover as we now have better players to fit OL power blocking and DL 3-4 schemes.

by Kosty on Sep 7, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch

by 2010oc on Sep 7, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't know if I can agree with this.
they tend to play a little more tentatively and not to lose rather than assertively and aggressively.

To me, it would seem to instill in a team that the coach/GM is tryning everything possible to create a winning combination. Team first players giving it their all and letting their talents win over the coaches…

by bfree2bronc on Sep 7, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Some of it was scheme

Shanny’s scheme was both exceedingly complex, and required a certain type of player. As such, a shanny team was probably better off having slightly less talent, but more comfort with the scheme. The starters tended to play more downs, and backups were there only to provide a quick breather or fill in for injury (in which case they needed to know the whole scheme before they were useful).

McD on the otherhand is all about 1) situational football, and 2) depth of talent to overwhelm/wear out the opposition. Specific knowledge of the details of the scheme is probably less important, because they will be worked in situationally over time. Makes picking up talent from the waiver wire easier.

by cjfarls on Sep 7, 2010 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

On Defense Shanny's scheme was simple

as soon as the other teams RB was exhausted we could find him and try to tackle

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by dmitchell624 on Sep 7, 2010 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

They seem to be saying he was a solid contributer this preseason

We might have a diamond in the rough with him. I’m assuming they brought him in to be in the DE rotation, but he might also be able to contribute at nose. This is one of the most interesting moves so far. I"m looking forward to seeing what he looks like on the field. Might be a couple weeks, but we’ll see. Intrigued.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

The comments in that line are both hilarious and sad

The poor fans over there feel like they just had AL Davis take over their team.

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Al Davis

Ahahahah. Now that is a sad day. But I like the pick up for us.

by bleedbroncos on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow...

always good to see how the other half lives… for all our kevetching about the Broncos, our team doesn’t have 1/4 the holes/issues SEA has….

Sounds like Vickerson is an interesting, if likely non-impactful player.

by cjfarls on Sep 7, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

thanks for that link. They really do seem pretty pissed. That’s a good sign

It's just about time for us to get out there and win a MF Game!

by Alex on Sep 7, 2010 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

awesome :)

My job is to separate the player from the ball - John Lynch

by 2010oc on Sep 7, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

I live in Seattle and pull for the Hawks when it strikes my fancy

And all my friends are up in arms about this… sure hope they’re right.

by Mcbeth149 on Sep 7, 2010 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Here's to the Big Vick not being this years' Niko Koutividies

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

The guy formerly known as ZAPPA

by Tim Lynch on Sep 7, 2010 11:00 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

here here!

daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
PS3 ID: KoRnHo|ed

by Broncs55 on Sep 7, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Sayre Bedinger on Sep 7, 2010 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Shamefully

I was one of those who thought Niko was the answer for us at MLB.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Sep 7, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oy.

Don’t remind me. I, too, was taken with that bum. You think I’d learn, but I tend to be overly-optimistic about this kind of signing. Vickerson, I’m withholding judgment.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 7, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

And, yet another suppressed memory surfaces

Thanks for reminding me why I was stoked for Niko, styg. I think. Maybe I’d have been better off remaining puzzled.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh my

The era of the slow linebacker. May it die in infamy, and never be spoken of again! :-p

by jonahsilas on Sep 7, 2010 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

LMAO

LOVE IT. Ugh those two were such poor LBs

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by sadaraine on Sep 7, 2010 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nate Ihavedoublevisionthatcausesmetochaseyouatbadangles Webster...yes that guy.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

The guy formerly known as ZAPPA

by Tim Lynch on Sep 7, 2010 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

May I suggest you call him NMFW? That conveys the sentiment nicely while allowing us to keep the pages of MHR pure.

by Chibronx on Sep 7, 2010 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

LOL

This.

In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.

by broncosmontana on Sep 7, 2010 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rofl

He Who Gave Up So Many Big Plays That He Must Never Be Named WAS our starting MLB wasn’t he? Hopefully we can banish the ghost of Al Wilson this season…

by Mcbeth149 on Sep 7, 2010 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep...Nate "Bobble Head" Webster!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Sep 7, 2010 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I am starting to feel better about the way the roster is rounding out.
Hopefully we will see at least one more move soon (dropping an OT player for one more front 7 player).

Now if we can just get everyone healthy…

by DoubleJay on Sep 7, 2010 11:18 AM MDT reply actions  

McD comments on Vickerson (via Twitter)
McD on Vickerson: “A big, talented guy.” Said he can give flexibility on D-line, nose or end as a pass rusher.

(from PostBroncos twitter)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 7, 2010 11:42 AM MDT reply actions  

The Big Vick

First Question, why did Seatle release him? However; I have not seen anything from Le Kevin that made me think this would be a major down grade.

by Grriz1 on Sep 7, 2010 11:45 AM MDT reply actions  

Best answer, thus far, is because Caroll is totally lost.

The question the Seahawk fans are asking over and over is “why work your butt off all TC and Preseason to earn a spot on the team, only to have it given to a 31 year old backup with bad knees”…..They have no clue as to why he was released, and it appears to be one of a series of moves they are deeply concerned about..

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

There was only one negative I read

I didn’t read the whole thread, but they seem to think that it could be because he is a turd, personality-wise. Uh, let me clear that up. He plays all-out and apparently even got into a bit of a scuffle with a guard in practice because of it. I guess there is a concern that his attitude isn’t 100%. We’ll see how McD and Wink handle him. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, since I’m on the side of Carroll not knowing what the hell he’s doing.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

let me get this straight -- the Seahawks frowned on him getting into a scuffle with a guard???

Sounds like exactly the right kind of attitude to me. : )

In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.

by broncosmontana on Sep 7, 2010 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol, yup

This was all speculation from the SeaGulls link above, though. I don’t think anyone knows for sure why he was cut. The guys on that site seemed perplexed (and a little pissed, I must say).

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry, fieldgulls, not sea...

Duh. No offense to our brethren from the PNW.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol

Oh I wouldn’t worry about offending those guys. Believe it or not, even though they’ve been out of our conference/division for years, they still harbor a bona fide hatred and only the barest begrudging respect of Broncos anyway. ; )

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by broncosmontana on Sep 7, 2010 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

that second link

is a hella good laugh by the way. : )

In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.

by broncosmontana on Sep 7, 2010 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol

All three of those were great reads, thanks for the link :P.

I get vitriol like this all day at work from one of our bartenders who truly and utterly despises the Broncos, still.

by Mcbeth149 on Sep 7, 2010 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

So much non-returned hatred

I thought a rivalry takes two teams that hate each other? Do the Broncos fans even think about the Seahawks on a yearly basis, other than ‘easy win’?

Those articles were awesome though – lots of sweet one liners! Jake Plummer and his mustache of doom!

Rec’d

So I see you rolled your way into the semis?

by OutOfYourElement on Sep 7, 2010 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Do the Broncos fans even think about the Seahawks on a yearly basis, other than ‘easy win’?

Exactly. Guess being routinely owned then shuffled to another conference in division leaves you bitter. It’s both sad and oddly endearing.

Reminds me of the Agrajag saga from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, when Arthur kept inadvertently killing the same reincarnated being over and over again without realizing it, building up lifetimes of one-way animosity that he had no suspicion of.

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by broncosmontana on Sep 7, 2010 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Somebody call and alert the president!!!

I think WWIII is about to start!

The Fieldgulls have loaded up the bomber and are dropping F-Bombs everywhere! Save yourselves!!!

by Josh.vh on Sep 8, 2010 1:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow

Move on? I stopped having anything against Seattle the second they moved to the NFC. Maybe it’s jealousy? Probably. They never amounted to much while in the AFCW, so maybe that’s it. I’d probably do the same for the chiefs if they moved today — they just haven’t been good enough to hate recently.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 8, 2010 5:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

And they obviously don't have profanity or content rules over there, eh?

Doesn’t bother me, but it sure does make MHR more widely acceptable as a serious outlet.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 8, 2010 5:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

How good can we be

if we need to pick up so many castoffs in the last week of pre-season?

by konaphilip on Sep 7, 2010 11:52 AM MDT reply actions  

You can always build better depth.

by Todd Jewell on Sep 7, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

right

these guys aren’t our starters. Unfortunately, we won’t have much to talk about with our starters until the first game comes and goes.

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by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 7, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Those cast-offs are depth

And are upgrading some of our question marks. We’re not the only team doing this at this time of year, rest assured. Everyone has weaknesses at certain spots and too much depth at others. Think about it this way — if we were to dump Squid or Cassius Vaughn, somebody would pick them up to upgrade their CB depth. Would you question that move? Same thing for us. We just don’t have intimate knowledge of these guys to understand why the team picked them up.

by BroncosBassist on Sep 7, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Name the last team

Where every draft pick, UDFA, and FA signing worked out.

by AllBroncsallday on Sep 7, 2010 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Vickerson is

worth taking a shot with but I have my doubts about a 7th round pick who has been traded once and waived also but he has to better than LeKevin Smith. Quality defensive linemen usually don’t fall in your lap the week the regular season starts but maybe we caught lightning in a bottle this time.

by broncorob on Sep 7, 2010 11:59 AM MDT reply actions  

I caught lightning in a bottle once.

Burned my hands. That sh*t was hot!!

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by Jason Witte on Sep 7, 2010 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Most probably already know this

but folks DID used to catch lightning in a bottle, or more specifically a jar.

Leyden jars were a standard on many laboratory benches in the 18th century, and the greeks had been privy to the idea of a capacitor as far back as ancient times. They knew you could create static electricity at will by rubbing amber with sheep’s wool, and they attempted numerous methods to store the energy. Even earlier attempts have been found, such as the Cradle of Civilization finds that were clay, sand, tar and copper compositions that resembled batteries more than capacitors…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 7, 2010 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

So THAT is what the Bagdad battery was....now that makes sense to me.

Thanks, Jeremy, for linking up some of my scattered items of education into a more cohesive whole. :)

by idahobronc on Sep 7, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Jeremy.

I was just joking around, but it was because I wondered where the original saying came from.

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by Jason Witte on Sep 7, 2010 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

glad i read this

:)

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by RiG on Sep 7, 2010 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lightning in a bottle is nice

but sometimes you just end up with Dick in a Box

So I see you rolled your way into the semis?

by OutOfYourElement on Sep 7, 2010 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

that what I gave my wife for her birthday this year!

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by Broncs55 on Sep 7, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Tempestuous Binary on Sep 8, 2010 12:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

LMFAO

It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?

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by Jason Witte on Sep 7, 2010 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one who had a minor heart attack when he saw we'd signed "Vick"?

LOL

So relieved it was this Vick. : )

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by broncosmontana on Sep 7, 2010 1:10 PM MDT reply actions  

No, you're not the only one.

My first reaction was oh my god, no. Then I saw the full name and I was OK.

by CompUser on Sep 7, 2010 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

My goodness they seemed upset at fieldgulls (the Seattle Seahawks fan site)

They basically say he kicked butt in pre season and are kinda shocked he was let go and it was a roster numbers thing to clear for another player

Tough to be a Seahawks fan recently I guess

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/9/5/1671296/pft-thinks-we-cut-vickerson

by Kosty on Sep 7, 2010 1:13 PM MDT reply actions  

Vick Daddy!

Hi guys, first time commenting here on MHR! Just got registered, just in time for the season! Great site, I check it every day (multiple times).

I’m a resident of Las Vegas but grew up in Denver. I’ve been a diehard fan of the Broncos since ‘83 and I’m fired up for the season!

To be honest I haven’t seen “The Big Vick” play. I’m chiming in because I’m impressed by McDaniel’s tireless effort to improve this football team in any way possible. NO ONE will out work the guy! Let’s go Broncos!

by Broncowhackadoo on Sep 7, 2010 1:36 PM MDT reply actions  

You can outsmart everyone part of the time

But you can out out work everyone all of the time.

Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?

by ChristianL on Sep 7, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Amen Brother

that’s why I’m successful

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by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2010 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Welcome!

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by underdog on Sep 7, 2010 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Vickerson

has an impressive body of work. I’m not sure why the Seahawks cut him. Oh well, let’s take advantage!

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM MDT reply actions  

Glad you

survived that Jason. Ha! Ha!

by broncorob on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM MDT reply actions  

They have made some questionable moves there though

Not that they haven’t also made good ones, but I’m definitely not worried about our week two matchup and home opener against them right now.

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by Sayre Bedinger on Sep 7, 2010 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yah. More thoughts on that today
I would prefer Seattle to have moved E.J. Wilson to the practice squad, if possible, retained Vickerson and had Siavii rotate with Bryant. I do not think Siavii is better than Vickerson or a better fit at nose, and when he generates pass rush, it will be through his own efforts rather than collapsing the pocket like most nose tackles do, like Vickerson does. It will be hot and cold.

So, I am not happy about losing Vickerson, and do not think Siavii replaces Vickerson, but I do think Siavii is a good player and can contribute.

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/9/7/1674795/a-few-snaps-with-junior-siavii

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by underdog on Sep 7, 2010 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

a few inches taller, 20-30 lbs heavier 40 tackles with the Titans

seems to be a significant upgrade as backup DL over Le Kevin Smith

by Kosty on Sep 7, 2010 3:29 PM MDT reply actions  

Better than Jarvis Green

Kevin Vickerson is, at th\is point, an unknown. But I regard him as a better gamble than Jarvis Green, who should have been more than a DE. His potential should have been that he could, at his weight and height, been able to stand up at the OLB position. His skill set was IMO to limited to hands down 3rd down pass rush.
Vickerson should provide more interesting options (pass rush, two gap protection, short yardage musclle, etc.)
I like the pick-up. Let’s see if he can deliver.
BTW – IMO he’s a bigger, nastier version of LeKevin Smith. Liked Smith to develop. But like Vickerson more for attitude and experience.

by ivanthenotsobad on Sep 7, 2010 4:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Awsome i think this guy is ready to start playing his best ball

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by RiG on Sep 7, 2010 6:19 PM MDT reply actions  

I like this move a lot.

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by Nick Cast on Sep 7, 2010 7:36 PM MDT reply actions  

McD said he was 6'5" 335 lbs.

And apparently, a good run-stopper from his reputation with the Titans. I found some more info on him from last year:


PRO: A massive run stopper who provides quality depth along the interior defensive line, defensive tackle Kevin Vickerson enters his second full season with the Titans in 2009. He spent four weeks on Tennessee’s practice squad and five weeks on the 53-man roster during the 2007 regular season after spending his first two campaigns out of Michigan State with the Miami Dolphins. He appeared in seven regular season games and one postseason contest in 2008. As a rookie with the Dolphins in 2005, he spent the entire season on injured reserve with a knee injury. He was inactive for every game in 2006 and then re-signed with Miami on March 9, 2007. After being allocated to the Cologne Centurions, he started 10 games, posted 31 tackles and 3.5 sacks and was named a 2007 first-team All-NFL Europa selection. The Dolphins terminated his contract on Aug. 27, 2007. Vickerson was originally a seventh-round (216th overall) selection by Miami in the 2005 NFL Draft.

2009 (13/2/0/3): Posted 49 tackles, nine quarterback pressures, three passes defensed … Made his first career start at defensive tackle against Jacksonville (11/1/09) … Tied for the team lead in quarterback pressures twice in 2009 (vs. ARI, vs. MIA).

I feel much better after seeing Jarvis Green and LeKevin Smith depart.

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by Horsepower on Sep 7, 2010 9:00 PM MDT reply actions  

Sounds like the Dolphins liked something...

And of course TN is just stronger up front. I don’t think I’ll get much arguement there.

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by AZ BroncosFan on Sep 7, 2010 9:59 PM MDT reply actions  

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