John Fox, 14th Head Coach Of The Denver Broncos
by John Bena on Jan 13, 2011 2:49 PM MST
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PrintThe Denver Broncos on Thursday announced that John Fox has agreed to terms to be the 14th head coach in the club's history.
"Coach Fox is a great fit for us not only with his coaching ability but also with his personality. He's a dynamic and proven leader," Broncos Executive Vice President of Football Operations John Elway said. "He's coached great defenses, turned teams around and been to Super Bowls. We couldn't be more excited to have him lead our football team."
Fox spent the last nine seasons as head coach of the Carolina Panthers (2002-10) and has 22 years of NFL experience to his credit.
"I am very thankful to Pat Bowlen and John Elway for giving me the opportunity to coach a football team with such a proud tradition, Fox said. "The Broncos have a culture of winning, and I am excited to continue that legacy.
"I can't wait to get to work, pushing our players to be the best they can be and representing this community as head coach of the Denver Broncos."
Fox compiled a 73-71 (.507) regular-season record with the Panthers that included three 11-win campaigns, two NFC South Division titles and three playoff appearances. Carolina went 5-3 in the postseason under Fox, appearing in two NFC Championship Games and one Super Bowl (2003).
He took over a Panthers team in 2002 that had gone 1-15 the previous season and led the club to a 7-9 record in his first year to record the third-best turnaround by a first-year coach in NFL history. He also was instrumental in improving Carolina's defense from a last-place ranking in 2001 to the NFL's No. 2 unit in his initial campaign-the only defense since the 1970 merger to accomplish that feat.
His 2003 squad finished 11-5 and captured the NFC South crown en route to Super Bowl XXXVIII, where Carolina lost to New England. In doing so, he joined Vince Lombardi and Bill Parcells as the only coaches in NFL history to inherit a one-win team and lead it to the postseason two years later.
Prior to his head coaching tenure with Carolina, he spent five seasons as the defensive coordinator for the New York Giants (1997-2001). New York allowed the seventh-fewest points per game (18.7) in the NFL during that span, while also finishing fourth in the league with a plus-25 turnover differential. The Giants totaled 230 sacks in five seasons under Fox, including Michael Strahan's NFL-record 22.5 sacks in 2001.
The pinnacle of Fox's stretch with the Giants came during the 2000 season in which the Giants advanced to Super Bowl XXXV by shutting out the high-scoring Minnesota Vikings in the NFC Championship Game.
Before serving as a consultant for the Rams in 1996, he was the defensive coordinator for the Oakland Raiders for two seasons (1994-95).
He got his start in the NFL as the secondary coach for Pittsburgh, where he spent three seasons (1989-91) and helped lead the Steelers' top-ranked pass defense during the 1990 season. He also spent two years as the secondary coach for the San Diego Chargers under Bobby Ross (1992-93).
Prior to his three-year stint as defensive coordinator and secondary coach at the University of Pittsburgh from 1986-88, he spent seven seasons as an assistant coach at various stops at the collegiate and USFL levels.
Fox started his coaching career as a graduate assistant at San Diego State University in 1978, after playing two seasons as a defensive back for the Aztecs and graduating from the school with a bachelor's degree in physical education and a secondary education teaching credential.
Born on Feb. 8, 1955, in Virginia Beach, Va., Fox and his wife, Robin, have three sons: Matthew, Mark and Cody, and a daughter, Halle.
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maybe we can bring him in as the new OC...
but McCoy will probably stay now…
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by manbearpig5000000 on Jan 13, 2011 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
+1
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
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Congrats to Fox
I’m pumped to have him as head coach. I think he is going to do a great job. GO BRONCOS!!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 13, 2011 2:53 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Sayre
Here comes the 4-3!!
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by The 3 Amigos on Jan 13, 2011 3:22 PM MST up reply actions
What's not to like?
no reason to chew on sour grapes!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 13, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
I like it
I ust want to see if there are any negative reactions and why there would be. I’m pleased though, for once this fanbase is united on one issue so far
I’m sure the pro-Dennison crowd is disappointed. If you read Woody’s article today there is a sentiment that we need to bring back as many former Broncos as possible to run/coach the team.
Fox probably isn’t going to do that. He’ll bring in his guys. Which is fine. We need new Broncos heroes and to stop trying to live on exploits of the late 90s.
I hate that it didn't happen sooner... but I'll get over it.
:)
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by Troy Hufford on Jan 13, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
Blame Mother Nature
If not for weather related delays Elway could have gotten this done a few days ago.
by MileHighHawkeye on Jan 13, 2011 3:47 PM MST up reply actions
Only thing I would complain about
Fox’s Panthers teams never were consistent from year to year. One year Superbowl, next year 7-9. Couldn’t put together back to back good years.
It seems to be that way for all NFC south teams
How many years now have they had a new division champion?
Exactly, this was due to the NFC South being a monster of a division
Fox had to put up with Mike Vick (who made a NFC Championship in 2004), Mike Smity (who has made ATL one of the best in the league), John Gruden (who won a SB in Tampa and was very tough), Sean Peyton/Drew Brees (who won a SB).
This division was stacked throughout Fox’s tenure, yet he still made the playoffs 1 out of every 2 to 3 years. I would expect more consistency in the AFC West, once Fox has his team in place.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
The Falcons
are going to win the Super Bowl this year. The NFC South really is a good division. Tampa Bay goes 10-6 and can’t sniff the playoffs.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Jan 13, 2011 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
i think there's plenty of pros and cons
pros
—He’s a proven head coach, which means he’ll be able to manage his assistants and motivate players on both sides of the ball.
—He’s got a long track record of success on the defensive side of the ball, meaning he’s worked hard in a lot of different situations for a lot of different bosses and come through every situation reasonably well *(at least until carolina disintegrated)
cons
—He’s already 55 in what’s become very much a young man’s game. He’s also coming off an incredibly taxing couple of years in Carolina with no break. Will he have the energy to fight through a tough rebuilding effort and relatively fluid front office situation?
—Recycling a coach immediately after coming off a losing stint is pretty unimaginative. I understand the desire to go for something proven after the McD experiment, but is this an overreaction?
i keep dancing on my own
Fox is definitely "unimaginative"
At least offensively. He runs the ball 60% of every game, play action pass and takes shots down field. If this doesn’t work, he’ll keep doing it ad nauseum.
Probably the only way to over come this will be to get an established OC who Fox will let run the show on Sundays.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
If I had Jake Delhomme as my QB I would run it far more than
I passed it too. He actually went to a SB with that guy as his QB. That in itself is a miracle.
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Jake was a really good QB in his prime
He went neck to neck with Tom Brady in the Super Bowl, and still maintains the record for the longest pass in Super Bowl history! That wasn’t Fox making those throws, it was Jake.
But for the record, that’s what Fox can do when he has the right guys. And it also goes to show that unlike many coaches, Fox doesn’t need a Tom Brady for him to do it.
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Well
we’re obviously not bringing in Fox for his offensive acumen….
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Jan 13, 2011 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
Ummmmmm
0.507 lifetime record. Really doesn’t excite me. Shanahan got fired for a record like that over 3 years. Nope don’t really like this one and I’m about as optimistic as they come. Here’s to hoping he does much better than 0.507 in Denver.
by KalispellBronco on Jan 13, 2011 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
That and.....
He’s coming to us as the EX-coach of the only team to have a record worse than ours. No warm fuzzy feelings here.
by KalispellBronco on Jan 13, 2011 9:01 PM MST up reply actions
Pretty exciting!
Has anyone heard anything about who he’s gonna bring in for OC/DC?
by black_knight101 on Jan 13, 2011 2:59 PM MST reply actions
yeah i saw that its just really unspecific haha.
we’ll one thing is that the Panthers ran basically the same offense as us/the Patriots except they ran the ball a lot, so there’s that.
by black_knight101 on Jan 13, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
Apparently he's trying to round up some guys right now.
We’ll know shortly.
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by Troy Hufford on Jan 13, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
On board
I’ve been skeptical of the new FO since they retained Xanders but this is a good move and I feel better about the Broncos future for the first time in a few months.
Dennison would be going back to the past too much for my taste (no desire to have soft teams that fade anymore).
I don’t think Fox will necessarily be our guy for 10 years or lead us to SBs but he is the right guy for right now and clearly the best of the ones available. If he can get us going in the right direction on Defense over the next 2-3 years, he’ll meet my expectations.
Don’t know how he is on game day, but he should bring in a better staff than we had last year.
source?
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by Troy Hufford on Jan 13, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
source?
The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.
by Troy Hufford on Jan 13, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
Echo....
My bad, y’all.
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by Troy Hufford on Jan 13, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
A strong possibility.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2011/01/john_fox_might_be_eyeing_redsk.html
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Also a new Special Teams coach.
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exciting news
with fox as head coach, we should all be able to get some good sunday afternoon naps in.
the offense is that boring
If you have a deep threat receiver it will be interesting
Fox loves to take shots down field. Steve Smith and Jake Delhomme made a living doing this for Fox.
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A Pro Bowler
And a fleet of dank hands.
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Does he rely on a tight end heavily?
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Never, he use them mostly for run blocking
If you don’t do well offensively, then you’ll be frustrated that he doesn’t throw to them more… Especially once he starts running the ball on 3rd and long.
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Wanted Koetter but Fox was my 1a. So I’m pretty stocked
by BGBronco on Jan 13, 2011 3:01 PM MST via mobile reply actions
checked out the Panther's blog
they’re wishing him the best but expecting the worst. They think he’ll get rid of our young players, bring in his Panthers, and yadda yadda yadda
Personally, I think this will be good for Fox though. Sure, he’ll have a say but Xanders should be there to say no to some of Fox’s guys
Fox isn't going to have that much personell control
just like he didn’t have that much in Carolina.
by black_knight101 on Jan 13, 2011 3:07 PM MST up reply actions
What players would he bring?
Dwill, Kalil, and CJ95 are only big FA’a but they will be locked up with big contacts all.
by RjTheMetalhead on Jan 13, 2011 3:07 PM MST up reply actions
The fails that killed our O.
Rip was the QB coach that cared more about mechanics than anything else.
Davidson is a freaking retard who called a QB draw on 4th and 6(may work with Man-God-Child called Tebow however).
by RjTheMetalhead on Jan 13, 2011 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
He was #1 recuit outta HS for a reason.
And that reason is talent, which he has.
by RjTheMetalhead on Jan 13, 2011 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
As long as he brings in Deangelo Williams, I'm okay with it. Maybe even Steve Smith
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Smitty is getting old and bitter.
Has a few years left but he needs to be in the slot after a year or two.
by RjTheMetalhead on Jan 13, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
We have receivers Zogernaut
We don’t need no stinkin’ Steve’s! Williams on the other hand…. ;-J
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jan 13, 2011 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
What are you willing to give up for Steve Smith?
Because he’s still under contract. DeAngelo could walk, but says he really wants to stay a Panther.
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We have 5 receivers, a qb and a couple of decent d guys. Not sure how many I would give though
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The Panthers desperately need a veteran QB
But no way they trade Smith for Orton straight up.
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None.
Smith is at tail end of his career. Don’t need him, don’t want him.
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Like Champ isn't?
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That is true, Champ is getting older.
Based on what I have seen, which is Champ every week and admittedly very little of Smith, I believe Champ has several good years left. As a CB and then as a S. Not so sure about Smith, again that is based on seeing very little Panther FB so I could be wrong.
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We need D guys
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I hope Xanders makes better decision or is assertive next time around
He wasn’t assertive with McD, will he be assertive with Fox and Elway?
Panther fans always expect the worst when people leave the organization
They still can’t except that Julius Peppers (while low sack numbers) played really well for Chicago. Fox will be fine in your weaker division, if you find a solid OC and surround Fox with his kind of players.
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Tebow?
any insight on that relationship?
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I personally think Fox and Tebow will be a great match
Jake Delhomme would still be the QB in Carolina if Fox had his way, because Fox loves guys with high character. If Tebow is a strong leader and conducts himself well on and off the field, then that will be almost as important to Fox as making plays.
All Tebow needs to do is take control of the huddle, hit receivers down field, and occasionally make plays with his feet when Fox’s vanilla play calling fails him..
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Check, check, and triple check.
Sounds like a match.
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He will make vanilla spice.
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Just better hope Tebow is the real deal
Because he has a lot of doubters. If he is then Fox will be a great coach for him.
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Hope is for those with doubt... not me my friend.
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nice!
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he was the panthers QB coach for several years.
by black_knight101 on Jan 13, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
I thought he was just a QB coach there
well, he has made QB’s before. He is credited with the rebirth of Delhomme, and I think he deserves some credit for Orton and Tebow
Talent
From what I know and what I’ve read Fox is a great cultivator of talent. He knows the game and has proven his leadership. He got a bum deal with the FO in Carolina. He will do great as long as the mojo is there with Elway and Xanders.
From Andrew Mason:
Turned a 1-15 team into a conference champion in just two years. A players’ coach who never lost the locker room and had his teams typically playing their best football at the end of the season. Went 5-3 in three playoff appearances. Until 2010, when the team went into a full-tilt youth movement, never finished below 7-9. Well-respected around the league for minimizing his team’s weaknesses. While he didn’t do as much public speaking in his final seasons as he did earlier in his tenure, continued to connect well with fans on a one-on-one basis, signing autographs and pausing to chat with fans daily. Well-connected and will likely bring together an experienced staff, starting with his long-time running backs and assistant head coach Jim Skipper, who advocates the same one-cut-and-go philosophy of former Denver running backs coach Bobby Turner.
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Hopefully he will bring this Skipper to help the running game get going.
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I'd like to pick up Skipper
Deangelo Williams has said Skipper is the only RB coach he has ever had, the only one he ever wants, and he wants to sign with the team that has Skipper.
I was eleven when Elway made the "leap" in Super Bowl XXXII, but I like to think that's still the moment I was conceived. Go Broncos!
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Sweet. I hope this happens. Moreno and Williams would ge a sweet combo.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 13, 2011 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
I am hoping we don't go to run only
we got to many weapons on offense for that!
Steve Smith led the NFL in rec yards on a team that ran more than it passed....
Running a lot don’t mean you can’t have pro bowl WR/TE.
by RjTheMetalhead on Jan 13, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
He won the triple crown in 2005
Led the league in receptions, yards and TDs. However he was also Carolina’s only receiver, and at the very height of his career. So repeating that is not a reality.
You’ll need a power running back that can do most of the dirty work, set up play action pass, and free up receivers down field.
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Has it ever occured to anybody that his (Fox') weapons were limited in Carolina...
Somebody tell me who did the drafting down here? Fox or the M?
I really wish that he would demote McCoy and bring in another OC...
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by manbearpig5000000 on Jan 13, 2011 3:07 PM MST reply actions
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2011/01/john_fox_might_be_eyeing_redsk.html
Link talking about Jim Mora as possible DC and Danny Smith as Special teams coach.
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This could be the making of a stellar staff.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 13, 2011 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
Not to add Fewell to the fire and this is no Mularkey...
Fox is easier to write!
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+1 on the typing ease
I could do it all day.
Fox fox fox fox fox fox…
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haha
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Taking a Look at the Carolina Panthers Draft History
And they have a history of being really successful with their 1st Round Draft picks during the John Fox coaching era
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
The word is that those are Hurney the GM's picks
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So it looks like it will set up like:
HC: John “silver” Fox
OC: Mike “the real” McCoy
DC: Jim Mora Jr.
STC: Danny Smith
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I could go for someone other than McCoy
his offense was a little too conservative for me at the end of the year.
Either throw it to Brandon Lloyd or run it.
I would like some diversity
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
what did we have to lose?
TT isn’t totally incapable of making a throw down the middle.
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:23 PM MST up reply actions
not saying he was incapable
it was his first games of the season and the O-Line seamed to be playing its worst.
Agree prototype
Plus he gave Tebow just enough to be succesful and we needed that as fans and for the future of Tebow in 2011 as it was an audition. Thanks McCoy!!! He will be great for Tebow and keep some similarity arond Dove Valley.
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
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by The 3 Amigos on Jan 13, 2011 3:26 PM MST up reply actions
he is going to have to change offenses
likely
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:30 PM MST up reply actions
It's property of the Broncos
If McD took his book, that would explain why so many others thought the offense got vanilla towards the end. LOL
yah 4 games might not be enough to decide his fate as a play caller.
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it wasn't his offense. It is McDs offense and he was running it with a rookie who took zero first team reps until week 15.
I think we should let him have a full offseason and year to put in his own wrinkles.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 13, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
I like it.
First order of business: banishment of all hoodies forever.
by cskilly on Jan 13, 2011 3:19 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
+1
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
not to be a fashion d bag
but i really liked the Gray Coat that Studs was wearing at the end of the year
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
look good play good
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:46 PM MST up reply actions
so are togas!
2011, the year the Broncos unleash the sideline toga! Okay, not one of best ideas.
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Paging Rob Ryan
Please answer the phone call from Mr. Fox ! The enver defense needs you lol
Love the Hire!
Well the 4-3 is coming and I am all about Ayers and Doom as DE’s with Failrey as our DT next to Bannan and a resigned M Thomas. Move DJ back to his natural position of OLB and Mays in the middle along with another 2 LB’s in the draft and haggan and we are ready to go. Also feel we will make a play for D Williams and he would be Awesome with Moreno!
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So does this mean the 3-4 is dead in Denver?
I like this hire, and for the love of Elway, I hope all of us fans can get behind this coach, and realize that we are in rebuilding mode, so please don’t run this guy out of town too soon.
Back on topic, what does this mean for our defense? If Mora Jr. is the new DC, he always ran a 4-3, Fox has run a 4-3, and I don’t think we have the personnel for an effective 4-3 just yet, especially with Doom being a better fit at 3-4 OLB.
I know Doom was pretty good at 4-3 DE, but he was run at almost exclusively, and in the 3-4, with a monster 5-technique DE to protect him, I think Doom will flourish even more this upcoming year, if we stay in the 3-4.
Anyone want to refute this point?
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(Klis has his days where he's an idiot, but I liked definition of Mr. Bowlen.)
See what Houston would want to trade them Doom for Mario Williams straight up
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Sorry, CombatChuk, but we would probably have to part with Doom and our #2 pick to get Willaims here
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Thats who I want....A D. Williams/KnowMo backfield, with Tebow? DANGEROUS!
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Bowlen prefers offensive-minded head coaches. He likes offensive minds because he likes his team to have star power at quarterback. He's not a stout-defense/run-the-ball kind of owner. It's a sound, core philosophy. Football franchises are about winning, first, but they're also about entertainment.
(Klis has his days where he's an idiot, but I liked definition of Mr. Bowlen.)
no kidding
we might as well get Felix Jones while we are at it.
D Williams is overrated. Hope we don’t spend much to get him. RB’s are dime a dozen
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:47 PM MST up reply actions
He ran for like 18 touchdowns and 1500 yrds just 2 years ago.
He has a career 5.0 YPC. He may not be a work horse every down back but he is successful and would be a great FA pick up. And he’s only 27
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 13, 2011 4:22 PM MST up reply actions
If it was the dolphins 2nd rounder
then I would take that deal. I love Doom as much as anyone, but Mario Williams is probably the best DE in the NFL right now (though Julius Peppers may disagree with that statement).
Hate to break it to you...
…but despite trying to run it for the past few years, we don’t have the personnel for an effective 3-4 either. 4-3, 3-4, I could care less – I just want a D that hits, tackles, and doesn’t let fullback screens go for 70 yard TDs.
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by CraftyB on Jan 13, 2011 3:32 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Good point. I agree with that premise
But where I think we differ is this; We need to stick with the 3-4. We have some deadly pieces for it already, and our most important player on defense, Dumervil, is excellent in the 3-4. Why can’t we build around our cornerstone player, and build an effective 3-4? If we go back to a 4-3, then we neutralize our best player, and have to start over from scratch again.
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(Klis has his days where he's an idiot, but I liked definition of Mr. Bowlen.)
In a perfect world, I'd prefer the 3-4 as well
But it seems (and I’ll admit I’m far from an expert on the subject) that getting the personnel to run an effective 3-4 is exceedingly difficult. You need a beast up front at nose and a full clip of monstrous pass rushing LB’s who aren’t liabilities in coverage for it to really work, and there are only so many of those guys around. If you’re loaded in terms of personnel, 3-4 is the way to go. If you’re talent-poor in the front 7 (which we are imho, aside from Dumervil and arguably DJ), it’s easier to cover for those deficiencies in the 4-3. In the 3-4, you will be exposed again & again, as we’ve seen the last few years.
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I also think Doom can be effective in the 4-3
Maybe not 15+ sacks effective, but what good is that if the defense as a whole gets consistently gashed?
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We don't neutralize him.
Dumervil is of similar build as Freeney. He excels in a 4-3. Doom can too I believe with a good DC and a good 4-3 scheme. If Ayers can improve his pass rushing at his more natural 4-3 DE position then maybe Doom can be a very successful 4-3 DE again. He was our sack leader at the position when we ran it before so he isn’t a slouch in it. He is still an impact player whatever the scheme.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 13, 2011 4:25 PM MST up reply actions
+1000
Thank you BroncoMath! I too, have been trying to explain that Doom already was successful in the 4-3 scheme. I don’t get why so many people think Doom will not be as effective at DE as he was in 2009 at OLB. 8.5 sacks in his first year, 12.5 sacks in year two. 4.5 sack in year three with a broken hand, and every year with a new D Coordinator. Stability and a little talent at the other DL positions will get him in double-digit sacks again.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Jan 13, 2011 4:36 PM MST up reply actions
he had 17 sacks in the 3-4
nothing close while he was in a 4-3. if you take that away from him, there goes what little pass rush we have, and doom is too small to stop the run with any effectiveness.
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Well if things go as they should then the other side will also be contributing to sacks like it is done in NY and Indy.
I would rather have Doom at 12.5 sacks a year and the other DE also getting 10 or more than Doom having 17 and none for anyone else.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 13, 2011 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
True, but who's to say he wouldn't have done that while staying in the 4-3.
He progressed every year (save ‘08 while injured) and if he had the same scheme terminology, I think he would’ve been better. Also, that same “run stopping liability” exists for him, as well as pass coverage, in the 3-4. Give him two good DT’s that don’t allow you to double team Doom and he’ll be just as dominant.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Jan 13, 2011 4:59 PM MST up reply actions
I want him to bring DeAngelo Williams with him!!
by prototype on Jan 13, 2011 3:25 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Don't count on it
Carolina’s new coach Ron Rivera is already fond of Carolina’s duo of RBs. And DeAngelo has been very vocal about wanting to stay.
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one of the best in the game when he wants to be
I am all for talent because this defense doesn’t have any.
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:27 PM MST up reply actions
Wrong waterboy...Playcalling could have helped in their demise...
I think Wink was way out of his league at DC…
too true, bfree
play calling was very bad if I could predict the play 50% of the time with only Madden video games for my football knowledge base. Though I would LOVE Haynesworth on our DL from a talent perspective and more talent is never a problem with me.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Jan 13, 2011 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
just saying
ill try anything at this point
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
yeah what a great example he would be for Fairley
oh god that would be bad
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:30 PM MST up reply actions
or so bad it would be good
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
id think chances are better of getting a better player out of haynesworth
than 3rd round pick
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by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
Haynesworth played lights out in Tennessee and didn't want to play in Shanny's 3/4...
The guy has the talent for sure, just needs to be used in the correct manner…Bull headed Shanny couldn’t see it that way…To bad.
I'd do it, if Haynesworth would rework his contract
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(Klis has his days where he's an idiot, but I liked definition of Mr. Bowlen.)
lol...no kidding
Instead of $100 million, he beter take $100,000 with the way he was acting.
I'm not your friend, buddy!
He's not your buddy, guy!
I'm not your guy, friend!
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Bowlen prefers offensive-minded head coaches. He likes offensive minds because he likes his team to have star power at quarterback. He's not a stout-defense/run-the-ball kind of owner. It's a sound, core philosophy. Football franchises are about winning, first, but they're also about entertainment.
(Klis has his days where he's an idiot, but I liked definition of Mr. Bowlen.)
Actually it was a front loaded contract
I think “only” $16 million is left to be guaranteed of the remaining 3years. Very reasonable for a player of his stature in a base 4-3.
I think i just threw up in my mouth a little. I would rather have a 2nd round pick.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 13, 2011 4:25 PM MST up reply actions
Haynesworth is a Fox-like D-linemen
Physically at least. Unfortunately he doesn’t play.
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orton for haynesworth...
If wash eats up most of that contract that’d be a good trade. Then we can 4get about fairley and go after peterson. We need more athletes on D.
by chap on Jan 13, 2011 3:30 PM MST via mobile reply actions
God i hope not
Especially if we are drafting Fairley. We’d lead the league in personal foul penalties just from those two.
I don’t mind Fairley because while he’s mean and plays kind of dirty, he hasn’t proven to be a bad character yet (at least i haven’t heard of anything yet). Haynesworth on the other hand has. I don’t care if he has the potential to be great. He doesn’t show up every play and only wants a pay check. I’d rather keep Orton as a backup then trade for Haynesworth.
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by AlbertaBronc on Jan 13, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah he hasn't tried to scrape anyone's face off with his cleats yet.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 13, 2011 4:26 PM MST up reply actions
Suh got all kinds of fines too
you wouldn’t want him either, i guess? haynesworth is just a bad egg. period. he has shown it time after time. fairley hasn’t shown anything other than he might be somewhat of a dirty player on the field. you’d be naive to think that every team doesn’t have a few of those guys – except ours.
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HaynesworthLESS
is selfish. Don’t get him
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 13, 2011 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
Fox is already doing what I don't think Dennison or Dirk could have done
and that is bring in high end, talented assistants. If reports are true about Danny Smith (one of the best ST coaches apparently) and Jim Mora Jr then I will be very happy. I’m not sure that Dennison or Dirk could round up guys that good with so much experience.
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by Eddie.Teach on Jan 13, 2011 3:30 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
McD was able to bring in Nolan
its not out of the question that they couldnt bring in good guys, but I agree with you, I think Fox had a better chance of doing it
McDaniels
has a bright intellect but I’m beginning to think he wasn’t that developed socially. He seemed aloof the more I think about it.
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 13, 2011 8:30 PM MST up reply actions
I like the possiblity of bringing in Mora Jr.
He also has experience as a HC, so perhaps he can take over for Fox when he wants to retire and we can keep continuity. Not sure if I’m that impressed with him as a HC, but maybe he’ll learn a thing or two from Fox.
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I wanted Dennison but he might not have been ready now.
Fox gives us experience now. I think he can right the ship.
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Jan 13, 2011 3:33 PM MST reply actions
Dennison needs a HC who will let him
call the plays on gameday.
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I don't have a problem with the hire
I’m glad they got someone with head coaching experience. The Broncos couldn’t risk another trendy fad pick. Fox also is a proven defensive coach. I hope he gets some slack this next year. He’ll be facing a tougher schedule than this last years with a depleted roster that will be difficult improve significantly in one off season – especially with only six draft picks.
I think we should be patient as long as we see subtle improvements next year.
I desperately wanted a coach with prior head coaching experience.
Of the available coaches, Fox fit this criteria the best. Lets hope he still has the magic to bring us to the championship game in 2 years. Hell, I would be happy with a winning season. All in all I am happy with this pick, and look forward to seeing him coach.
by Papamag on Jan 13, 2011 4:22 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
me too
I am still scared how good or bad Xanders will turn out to be… The fact that McD is telling people that nobody was ready to take decision and he had to make decision really worries me..
Well, the fact that McD managed to get rid of anyone who dared to question his decisions (Goodman, Nolan for example) served to stifle independent thinking at Dove Valley. None the less, your right: if indeed Xanders was opposed to the terrible decision making of the McDaniels era, it’s hardly a matter of comfort that he doesn’t appear to have been outspoken with his point of view.
We shall see….
I live in houston and yesterday john mcclain of houston chronicle
was talking about how denver broncos is so cheap and fox may not be willing to sign on with another cheap team after his carolina’s experience…i just caught the end of this conversation, so didn’t get the full conversation
but good to know that Fox signed on with us…
btw, Dennison is getting pilloried in houston radio’s for his “I am just working in Houston”, with the radio host calling for his head…
Really? They're calling for his head?
Come on back to Denver Mr. Dennison. We’d love a running game again.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Jan 13, 2011 5:11 PM MST up reply actions
there was this radioshow at 5:00 pm on 790;
where there were three participants one asked him to be fired, other person wanted the entire coaching staff gone and third one wanted a public apology…
Fox will take Da'Quan Bowers in the draft
Possibly Nick Fairley, but I think Carolina might take him first. His first order of business will be building a monster D-line. And just like he built a defense around Julius Peppers his 1st year in Carolina, I think he’ll try to do likewise with Bowers.
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I would be ecstatic with a monster front.
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I would love DL that manhandled the OL on a regular basis.
Make other teams fear going up against our D like they do with Ravens and Steelers, etc.
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Just curious, is larry coyer the last co-ordinator
to retain his job as defensive co-ordinator? is this post as jinxed as the Defense against Dark arts post in Harry potter?
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