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NFL Collective Bargaining? Sure, But How About A Reorg...

With the Collective Bargaining Agreement hanging like a dark cloud over all avid professional football fans, I found myself wondering what the NFL could do to improve their product once this labor dispute is cleared up. It appears we'll likely see an 18 game schedule, which is a plus for us and the owners, but not so much for the players.

The one aspect of the make up of this league that, I think, cheapens the product on the field is number of divisions in each conference. Winning a division should mean something more than a home playoff game for a below average 7-9 or 8-8 football team and getting into the playoffs as the top ranked wild card team should have a little more value than a grueling four game road to the Lombardi Trophy.

The current make up also cheapens the waning weeks of the regular season as once divisions are locked up, wild card teams really have nothing to play for as being the five or six seed doesn't really matter much. But what is the NFL to do? Aside from leaving things as they are, the NFL could do one of two things to vastly improve the drama and meaning of games late in the season. Both options involve a return to a three division per conference make up.

Star-divide

The first option is to remove two franchises from the league and return to a 30 team league. If you ask me, the Jaguars/Panthers expansion of the mid 90's was a mistake, but that's just me. It doesn't really matter anyway because like the American government, the National Football League is fully vested into the "endless growth" ideology of prosperity. Any step back will be seen as weakness or failure, so in reality, the only option on the table is the second one, which I will lay out for you here.

This plan would not happen overnight, rather it would be an incremental or phased plan in which the first step would be to consolidate the league back into three division conferences. Obviously, this would make one division in each league six teams large. This would cause scheduling problems as the current set up makes for a mathematically perfect cycle. Mathematical perfection doesn't necessarily correlate to a better product nor does it mean more fair. This is how I would reorder the divisions:

American Football Conference
East Central West
New England Patriots Pittsburgh Steelers Denver Broncos
Indianapolis Colts Baltimore Ravens Oakland Raiders
New York Jets Cleveland Browns Kansas City Chiefs
Miami Dolphins Cincinnati Bengals San Diego Chargers
Buffalo Bills Tennessee Titans Houston Texans

Jacksonville Jaguars
National Football Conference
East Central West
Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers San Francisco 49ers
Philadelphia Eagles Chicago Bears New Orleans Saints
New York Giants Minnesota Vikings Atlanta Falcons
Washington Redskins Detroit Lions Arizona Cardinals
Carolina Panthers Tampa Bay Buccaneers Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams

The new make up will keep the old rivalries together, while also renewing some forgotten ones. More importantly, it gives the NFL a road map to adding four more NFL franchises sometime in unforeseeable future. Shortsighted minds will likely have problems with expansion talk right now, but economic times go through history in waves. Right now, the world is in the bottom of that wave, sooner or later it will rise back up to the top of the wave once again. The NFL should be forward thinking, not reactionary to the times. They have a product that grows even in the worst of times, so they should already be planning for growth in the best of times. I'll get into potential expansion sites later.

For now, moving to this set up instantly makes the final weeks of the season and the first round of the playoffs interesting again! Just for fun, even though the schedule and records couldn't possibly have been the same, let's see what the playoffs would have looked like with this league:

AFC BYE: NE & PIT

AFC Wild Card: IND@KC & NYJ@BAL

The important aspect is that the best wild card team received the reward of a home playoff game. Being a wild card shouldn't automatically exclude you from a home playoff game and Baltimore deserved a game a home for the season they had.

NFC BYE: ATL & CHI

AFC Wild Card: NYG@PHI & GB@NO

The big thing here is that the unworthy Seahawks' season ended, while the three win better New York Giants got a rightful place in the tournament. Only two teams destinies in both conferences were changed, and in this bloggers opinion, for the better.

Winning your division in this scenario still means a home playoff game, but the change brings back importance and drama to the Wild Card teams. A bad division winner, like say Kansas City, would still get to host a playoff game, but several bad division winners won't ensure a 10-6 team like the Giants are ousted from tournament play by a 7-9 division winner.

This change would also play well into the scheduling for an 18 game season. For the five division teams the formula will remain perfect some of the time with eight divisional games and match ups against one division from each conference. However, when a six team division crops up then each team will play five teams in the other division according to record. Whether that will work mathematically, I am not sure, but a computer will find a way to sort it out. The six team divisions will have ten divisional games each season, but then would have to play four teams from each division according to record.

It wouldn't be as mathematically perfect as it is now, but its workable - where eventually - all divisions will have six teams. Once that is the case, math will once again become easy for the NFL's schedule makers. Each team will then play ten divisional games, two conference teams based on records and an entire division from the opposing conference. Switch back to three divisions per conference will give the NFL a model that works both now and with future league expansion.

Now if that wasn't confusing enough for you, where in God's name would the NFL expand in the future? It really does feel like every team that needs an NFL team has one, maybe even a couple that don't. The easy pick, so long as the Chargers stay in San Diego, is Los Angeles. That is the one city that should have a team. After that the list gets muddled and stretched to the limit. The best I could do, with the help of mdierk, was San Antonio and Portland. After that? Beats the hell out of me! I guess you could throw Salt Lake City in there, or maybe somewhere in New Jersey. The NFL won't do Las Vegas, so count that out.

One idea that really makes me excited about football is an NFL team in an International city. London comes to mind and a few large Canadian cities. As much as our Canadian brethren love their CFL, I have no problem with the NFL poaching their territory. In fact, if the NFL expanded into Los Angeles and San Antonio, they could also even things out by expanding into two International cities. 

Looking above, I can see the Los Angeles expansion team heading to the AFC West, while San Antonio gets dropped into the NFC Central. Meanwhile, London would get a spot in the NFC East and Toronto or Montreal would land in the AFC East. I thought about adding Tokyo into the mix as the Japanese seem to love American football, but the only division that made sense for was the AFC West and I'd rather not see my favorite team travel across the globe for a divisional game every year! Mexico City is also an idea, but Mexico is(has) collapsing(ed) into a violent narcostate. If they ever recover, then perhaps a Tokyo/Mexico City expansion could happen in the far distant future. Anything can happen.

So back to the central theme of this post. Having just three divisions in each conference vastly improves the sanctity and validity of division winners, justifying a home playoff game, while also adding drama and suspense to the Wild Card race. Hopefully, the NFL understands this or we may not have seen the last of mediocre division winners.

What do you think?

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I get that there is a difference ...but

I think to realign the divisions just because unworthy Seattle got in the playoffs is not warranted … If you remember Seattle beat the defending champs … that is pretty good drama.

by isaiahkyler on Jan 22, 2011 10:06 AM MST reply actions  

I'm not just talking about Seattle.

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree...but what team goes over to the NFC? :)

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

jacksonville

maxwellsdemon if your reading this i won the bet!!

by Pmoreno95 on Jan 22, 2011 11:12 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

We can trade them with SD.

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by weazel on Jan 22, 2011 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

hard to make that appeal on one of the original AFL teams!

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by Jon Tollerud on Jan 22, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh I know.

They will probably end up moving to LA soon anyways.

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by weazel on Jan 22, 2011 4:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I named them the LA Chargers in my post above, but removed it before posting.

I should have left it…damn.

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

You should have said

The San Die…..uh I mean LA Chargers. LOL

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by weazel on Jan 22, 2011 5:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes, that would have rocked!

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes it is.

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by weazel on Jan 22, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Their 1st season was in LA

I doubt they’re leaving SD. I’d bet money on it and I don’t gamble.

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by SSinSD on Jan 23, 2011 12:19 AM MST up reply actions  

The Seahawks

playing the Cardinals/Rams/49ers just seems wrong, of course, Seahawks fans have become my friends so that would be one negative about them becoming divisional rivals again. However, it is better for one Bradfather to have his priorities trivialized than for an entire NFL to languish in nonsense. Let’s just not have the Falcons and Saints return to the NFC West….

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

I was trying to keep NO and ATL together...I suppose the EAST is a possibility.

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 3:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Atlanta and New Orleans never belonged in the NFC West. Used to be. Never should again. :-)

by KansasBronco on Jan 22, 2011 4:44 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I love our current allignment. There will always be meaningless games but reducing the divisions INCREASES the meaningless games

Plus the Seattle thing which basically NEVER happens (so therefor should not be reacted to) has the flipside of good divisions making it harder to earn wild card positions… this makes things interesting. Our league is Excellent. If we have to watch two more games …ok.

NO BIG (clearly drug/boredom induced) changes please!

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by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 22, 2011 10:19 AM MST reply actions  

I guess watching inferior teams get the privilege of playing at home is great football.

I think having wild card teams fight for a home playoff game would add excitement.

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Why not just seed by record then?

by poorboywilly on Jan 22, 2011 10:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Because that also cheapens the importance of winning your division.

The point is to keep the importance of winning your division, but also increase the drama of the Wild Card races. With so many divisions, we completely lose whatever drama there could be once the Wild Card teams are decided. No incentive to improve your seeding position from the bottom. Who gives a damn, they’ll just be playing a road game anyway!

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

agreed.

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by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 22, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Why does this cheapen winning your division?

What is so special about winning a division if your division sucks, such as was the case in the NFC west this year. In fact, winning a division like that is even less prestigious, because you get to play 6 games against crappy opponents, so why should you be rewarded for that with a home game. I say, the reward that you get for winning your division is that fact that you are allowed in the playoffs, even if your 7-9, and I think that’s enough. Record should decide who gets a home game. Why is it fair for a 11-5 team who happened to be in a really tough division to have to go on the road against a 7-9 or 8-8 team. It’s not. The 11-5 team earned a home game because they were more successful during the season, the 7-9 or 8-8 team deserves to be in the playoffs because they were the best team in their division. I truly believe that if the Saints were at home, they would have beaten the Seahawks, but because the Hawks had an unjust home game, they were able to ride the 12th man to victory, and thus the Saints were robbed of the chance to repeat, and the Bears got a gimme home game. It messed up the whole aspect of the playoffs this year. Keep the divisions, seed by record is what I think should happen.

by BroncoinOCCali on Jan 22, 2011 8:19 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Although

The three divisions allowing for more expansion teams is intriguing. That way, LA gets a team, which is certainly justified, given how big LA is. Portland would be a good option, as well as San Antonio. But, there is one HUGE market that you forgot about. Not meaning to be a homer, but the population of Orange County California easily justifies having a football team. We easily support the Angels and the Ducks, and a football team would be no problem. We could put them in Irvine or Anaheim or Santa Ana or Orange, and it would work.

by BroncoinOCCali on Jan 22, 2011 8:33 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I lived in Garden Grove when the Rams were there

I lived a mile from the stadium. They almost never sold it out. Too many imports living in OC.

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by SSinSD on Jan 23, 2011 12:22 AM MST up reply actions  

as it turns out it was!

I’m ok with them giving up home field, just not the play-off spot.

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by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 22, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Well

the NFL is better than this pile of garbage and always will be so let’s not have a lockout for that. Of course, seeding by record is really intriguing to me but I believe divisional winners should be rewarded. Oh well, let’s just have a new CBA by the deadline and go from there!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I would rather see expansion/realignment than 18 games

Seeing Seattle move to the NFC was odd but not really that big of a deal. Not as big of a deal as the Brewers moving to the NL, which has different rules than the AL. Expansion and realignment can and probably will happen again in the next economic upturn, whether that’s a good thing or not.

I agree on Portland and San Antonio, and we all know that LA is inevitable regardless of how smart that is. (The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.) I lived in Salt Lake City for 12 years and I don’t think the area is big enough to support and NFL team. What I think is more likely to happen is that Goodell decides to add 4 international teams, probably all in Europe.

The 18 game schedule is what really bothers me. Part of the reason the NFL is so awesome is that every game does count, because there are so few of them. In addition, the elimination of camp, OTAs, and evaluation time will make the quality of the product for the first few games worse than it is now. As I have seen posted on MHR before, without preseason games, TD would have never made the Broncos. And we haven’t even gotten into the injury factor. But all of these points have been argued before.

What I think the NFL is really missing is that 18 games won’t necessarily cut down on “meaningless” games. For example, the Colts roar off to a 13-0 start, and the second place team in the AFC South is at 7-6. 5 games to go, 6 game lead, the division is locked up. Do you think they’re going to trot Peyton, Reggie, and the others out there for all of the final 5 games? What does history tell you they’re going to do? How meaningful will those games be, and will the Colts lose one near the end to a playoff-hopeful team (say, the Jets) and compromise the competitive integrity of the league?

I’m not saying this can’t or won’t happen with a 16-game schedule (and perhaps realignment back to 3 divisions within conference would help reduce the possibility of this happening), but with a longer season and more games, the liklihood increases tremendously. Again, going back to baseball, if you’re a Royals or Pirates fan and your team is essentially mathematically eliminated by mid-July, how much fun is that?

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by QDoc on Jan 22, 2011 10:53 AM MST reply actions  

Salt Lake City

and Utah is Broncos Country. As a Utah Broncos fan, I want this to NEVER change!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

49ers too

When I lived there it seemed that half of the people were 49ers fans… but I am sure Steve Young and winning had a lot to do with that. That’s okay though… the ’9ers can have the zoobies.

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by QDoc on Jan 23, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Well

Niners games NEVER air in Utah anymore. Yes, I’m Mormon but Brigham Young University rejected me and I always liked the Broncos more anyway. Now, the flavor of the month is the Colts because of Austin Collie. I don’t mind Indy, I’m a Peyton Manning guy but at the end of the day, it’s all about the BRONX!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 23, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I can't see ever expanding overseas to either London

or Tokyo as the trip would be brutal for whatever had to take it. Mexico City, I agree, not in my life time. Toronto or Montreal? Yes, I could see that. Though I think the CFL would fight us. Portland, no. I don’t think the NW could handle another team. Maybe we could put one in NYC and the Jets and the Giants could change their names to the New Jersey Jets/Giants. The San Antonio Gunslingers, I like it.

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by hcubed on Jan 22, 2011 10:54 AM MST reply actions  

Also, I don't like the idea of an 18 game season.

Too many injuries, not enough time in preseason to check out the drafted and undrafted rookies. Bad idea me thinks.

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by hcubed on Jan 22, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

The Argos

were angry when the Bills began playing at Rogers Centre, but ultimately Torontonians know the NFL brings more riches into their coffers. It’s an interesting dichotomy between the CFL and NFL.

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I heard a guy who lives in Minniapolis say he wouldn't be surprised if the Vikings moved to London

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by SSinSD on Jan 23, 2011 12:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Living in Minneapolis I haven’t heard this mentioned at all. LA is a real possibility though. Zygi would definitely listen to any offers for greener pastures.

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by QDoc on Jan 23, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

NFC West is totally out of whack

You would have west coast teams having to travel to the east coast for division games and vice versa. Didn’t this just get fixed with the current alignment?

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by AZ BroncosFan on Jan 22, 2011 11:04 AM MST reply actions  

Traditional old division rivals.

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

But with unfair travel

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by AZ BroncosFan on Jan 22, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Seattle not with the afc west? no Cards Cowboys?

The three division thing I do not get.
yuck.

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by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 22, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Interesting topic Tim

About a year ago I wandered upon this site that discusses NFL realignment, some of which are more funny, while others are very well thought out. Take a look. Link.

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by Topher Doll on Jan 22, 2011 11:18 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Cool link, thanks!

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Denver is in the Beer division!

LOFL! That was funny!

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by SSinSD on Jan 23, 2011 12:33 AM MST up reply actions  

It's only the most awesome division ever!

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by Topher Doll on Jan 23, 2011 12:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree...especially if its a Coors Light division.

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 23, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Like the article Tim but have a couple of gripes / ideas.

As much as I’d love to see the NFL in England permanently it ain’t gonna happen. sure there’s the problem of the Broncos, Seawhawks, Chargers etc having to come over and play in England once a year but the English team will have to come over the US every other week – or do they play 3 or 4 week road trips? The logistics of having a team in London is only fixed if London’s divisional games are against Barcellona, Munich and Amsterdam and then we’re back to NFL Europe.

Secondly, I love the current NFL schedule. Having a balanced schedule is actually pretty damn good and one of the main reasons I wouldn’t want an 18 game season.

Now what would be interesting is having two divisions of 16 teams with promotion and relegation similar to the way the football (soccer) leagues are arranged over here.

by mikebirty on Jan 22, 2011 11:29 AM MST reply actions  

It will

be like Hawai’i’s football team. The (Rainbow) Warriors have to stay on the mainland for four weeks at a time in certain cases. If the Broncos play a London team at Wembley, they would have to play Rome, Berlin, Copenhagen (the tobacco companies would LOVE that setup) and Stockholm or whoever….

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

This just in

$cam Newton’s agent will be Bus Crook so I pity the fool GM that drafts him

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:36 AM MST reply actions  

Seattle

being in the NFC West doesn’t bother me. That’s where they should have been to begin with. They were in that division for their first year in existence, and then they were moved to the AFC West. If Rozelle and the league would have done it right in 76, they should have moved the Colts to the AFC Central, put the Bucs in the East, put the Falcons in the NFC East, and moved the Cards to the Central or West.

by PABroncofan on Jan 22, 2011 11:40 AM MST reply actions  

Yes

that is true, if I read my NFL Record & Fact Book correctly, both the Buccaneers and Seahawks were in the NFC West circa 76. That’s insane>

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Another thought on realignment

Instead of dropping back down to 3 divisions each, I propose going to 2. Once conference could be aligned in a North and South divisions, while the other is East and West. Each division would be made up of 8 teams, so winning the division would be a substantial accomplishment. This also allows for the existing 32 team configuration. In my mind, we don’t need more teams, but some of the teams could relocate to better markets to help out those who are not drawing a supportive fan base now. 32 teams is enough, in my opinion.

If the NFL wants to expand their product into more markets, then why not add a minor league? Smaller markets like Salt Lake City could easily support a minor league team, and this would give the NFL a place to stash and develop players that could be called up to the major teams as needed. To me, this would solve a number of issues that the league now faces. The old Euro league used to fill this need, but why not do the same thing here instead, but in markets not now served? Each team could have their own minor league team instead of the existing practice squad, providing the base of players needed for the coming 18 game schedule.

by ITPro on Jan 22, 2011 11:51 AM MST reply actions  

I agree

just so long as the SLC is affiliated with the Broncos! Salt Lake City and Utah are Broncos country as I said previously. Unwar the Raiders fans who have infested my state somewhat. Thankfully most of them live far away from me

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, I agree

Each team would have a farm team in their own geographic area, and would run pretty much the same system. This would keep the players prepared in case they were call up, and make it simpler for the fans.

We could even have fun with the names. The Broncos team could be the Ponies, for example, while the Dolphins might be the Minnows. The Giants could be the Hobbits, the Redskins the Palefaces, and the Eagles the Sparrowhawks. The Packers would be a tough one. How about the Milkmaids?

by ITPro on Jan 22, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Hmmm

I think Utah MUSTANGS sounds rather classy, don’t you!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Edit

“One conference…”. Come on, SBNation. How hard is it to give us an Edit feature?

by ITPro on Jan 22, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Very hard

Plus you could make someone look like an idiot by spending a whole comment chain arguing just to go back and change it all later.

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by Topher Doll on Jan 22, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Many places

have a marker denoting an edit occured with a time stamp.

Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.

by Sean in Pa. on Jan 22, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I've seen it as well

But it would be too easy to correct yourself or change your argument. It would be awesome for fixing grammar, spelling and technical issues, but content wise, I think it would be too easy to change what you are saying.

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by Topher Doll on Jan 22, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

SLC

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

The Falcons have a decent rivalry with both the Panthers and Bucs.

The only Cali team that ever caught on as even a minor rivalry was the Niners. I like alignment how it is, but there should be some sort of a way for a division-winner to not get home field when they clearly haven’t earned it.

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by Jason Kirk on Jan 22, 2011 12:32 PM MST reply actions  

I felt NO and ATL was a good rivalry, but the AFC & NFC SOUTH divisions would get screwed in any realignment

being as they were not part of the original divisional makups. :)

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

No thank you

I think you need to have an even number of teams in each division. Scheduling would be harder with uneven divisions, especially if division record stays as a tie breaker. I could support the idea if you either add 4 teams or get rid of the Raiders and Chargers. Who likes them anyways…:-)

by MileHiMagic on Jan 22, 2011 12:49 PM MST reply actions  

3 division conference?

I will pass on that. Things are good the way they are and realigning the divisions and an 18-game schedule would just mess it up as far as I am concerned. I am sure that an expansion in the future is possible, however I do not want it outside of this country. I know Goodell has mentioned a team in Europe. Football is not their sport, it’s soccer and just imagine the traveling this team would have to do in an 18-game season.

You win your division then you get a home game regardless of your record. That is just the way it is.

It will be interesting to see how this CBA plays out because it looks like the possibility of an 18-game schedule is going to be a big breaking point. I don’t think the owners are looking past the dollar signs they see the 2 extra games will bring. More games will lead to more meaningless games where the starters will be sitting. No point whatsoever.

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by weazel on Jan 22, 2011 12:55 PM MST reply actions  

CFL is brutal

I’m from canada, played canadian football my whole life, as well as university football and I can assure you, anyone who knows anything about football up here does not like the CFL. I would rather watch a return of the XFL.

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by David G. Little on Jan 22, 2011 1:24 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

My two cents

I cant see this happening, however all the expasion teams wont have a say IF there is realignment. (as this happened prior to realignment on 2002). However in the History of the NFL there has only been one division winner below .500 and (i maybe wrong on this) there has only been TWO .500 teams making the playoffs. In each of those years the NFL didnt have knee jerk reaction. One of the reasons they went to the current format is scheduling. There is more common opponents. There is no more of that ridiculous 5th place schedules. Now each team knows who they play the follwoing season, but two teams. That will be based on where they finish. The main reason teams who win their division get a home playoff game in the NFL wants a reward for winning the division. I dont see this being an issue in the new cba.

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 22, 2011 2:51 PM MST reply actions  

Dude...long time...

My central point was bringing back meaning to Wild Card competition. And strengthen the meaning of winning your division.

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I know its been a while

Well you see the AFC this year both WC teams had 12 and 11 wins. I agree with that sentiment, but too me this year was an abberation.

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 22, 2011 6:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm old fashioned. :)

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 22, 2011 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

The players agrument

against an 18 game schedule is so weak to me, this thing about more injuries, when the undrafted free agents rookies and scrubs are literally playing a 20 game schedule,(all 4 preseason games and the 16 regular season games if they make the squad, which quite a few do) it’s the premadonna players that get to sit out most of the preseason and then only start playing the regular season (and oh BTW they are the ones that are paid in the top 10% of the league).

Then there is the matter of them complaining about having to truly tackle CORRECTLY rather than launch themselves from 20 yrads in the air stricking the other player not only with such force that the other player goes down, but the since heaad first the tackler receives a concussion too. Sorry, but our own Champ Bailey doesn’t have any problems tackling without hurting himself and or other players and he is only 190lbs.

I say great for 18 games and if they want to cut back on all the offseason stuff that’s fine. But the players shouldn’t be complaining of injury when they are the ones causing them in alot of cases.

Just my 2 cent rant. Now back to the program.

by broncos314 on Jan 22, 2011 3:16 PM MST reply actions  

Well

314. the truth of the matter is the players have no leverage. DeMaurice Smith HAS to know it is in the players’ best interests to cave and acquiesce to the 18 games if need be. Smith does not have the players’ best interests at heart however and has future political aspirations. If there is a lockout, and I’m still holding out hope there won’t be, it’s all his fault.

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 23, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Reorganization

Why make this hard, with six divisions? Why not just four?

How about an NFC with an East and West division, plus an AFC with an East and West division. East and West rather than North and South in order to minimize time zone differences between rivals.

Each Division would have a division winner, who would get a bye week and home field for the playoffs.

The next 4 best records in each conference would play the wild card week to see who gets to play the division winners, and best records would determine home fields and matchups. The winners of the division wild card games play the division winners for the division championships, and the survivors play for the conference championships and the right to go to the Super Bowl.

Since this adds one more week to the season for the playoffs, the regular season would remain at 16 games, or at most be extended to 17 games, and the preseason shortened accordingly, maybe by 2 games. How does this sound? To me, it’s fewer preseason games, with an emphasis at the end of the year on more important games and the criticality of having great records, not winning a small, lousy division.

by bill2975 on Jan 24, 2011 12:45 PM MST reply actions  

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