A Comparison of Two First Rounders
Recently, Knowshon Moreno has taken a lot of heat. His lack of big play ability seems to be the main target to these criticisms. All of these criticisms inspired me to compare Knowshon's stats in his 2nd year with those of LaDainian Tomlinson. I also took into account the number of years of experience both players' offensive lines had.
Rushing Stats--LaDainian Tomlinson
Games 16
Attempts 372
Yards 1,683
Yds/Game 105.2
Avg 4.5
TD 14
Rushing Stats--Knowshon Moreno
Games 13
Attempts 182
Yards 779
Yds/Game 59.9
Avg 4.3
TD 5
Just looking at the rushing stats between the two, three categories jumped out at me: attempts, average, and touchdowns. Tomlinson, in his second year, had twice as many touches as Knowshon did. Twice as many! I think that if it ever appeared as if Moreno had disappeared from the game, this would be the reason why. When a running back plays 13 games and only gets 182 touches, that certainly isn't his fault. As we know, the offensive line was young and trying to find their chemistry; we had a coach that liked to throw the football, for more than half the year. Add these two components together and there you have it--a 1st round running back, in his 2nd year that only got 182 rushes this year.
The next stat that jumped out at me was the averages. Despite Moreno's limited rushing attempts, he still managed to keep his average yds/carry just two tenths below Tomlinson's. If he was having that much success running the ball, why wouldn't we keep feeding the rock? This is obviously the part where the playcalling comes into play as well.
Finally, the touchdowns. This is very concerning to me, but then again, I guess that was what LenDale White was for. Then he went down and it was up to Laurence Maroney. However, when a team is in the red zone, running the football becomes extremely important. There is a smaller amount of space for WRs to run their routes, therefore, the end zone and the sidelines are acting like a 12th defender. If you run the ball, you take that 12th man out of the equation. The lack of Moreno's rushing touchdowns could be a result of two components: despite the 12th man in the red zone, Denver still wanted to pass the ball OR we couldn't run the football in the red zone because teams can put extra defenders on the line to defend the run (using the 12th man to their advantage). I think it was a combination of the two. Once Denver got up against the extra defensive lineman, it was tougher to run the ball, so in effect, we were forced to pass. This would definitely account for Moreno's lack of touchdowns.
Offensive Line Experience--San Diego Chargers
RT Vaughn Parker 8 yrs
RG Toniu Fonoti 0 yrs
C Jason Ball 0 yrs
LG Bob Hallen 4 yrs
LT Damion McIntosh 2 yrs
Total years of experience: 14 years
Offensive Line Experience--Denver Broncos
RT Ryan Harris 3 yrs
RG Chris Kuper 4 yrs
C J.D. Walton 0 yrs
LG Zane Beadles 0 yrs
LT Ryan Clady 2 yrs
Total years of experience: 9 years
So between the two offensive lines, the Chargers had the edge by 5 years of experience. However, both teams had two rookies on their lines. The biggest difference though, is that the Chargers's most experienced lineman had 8 years of experience while Denver's had 4 years. It will be interesting to see how our offensive line holds up next year and whether or not the new head coach is going to bring a power or zone blocking scheme.
Conclusions
I think that Knowshon Moreno had a frustrating 2010-2011 season, not because he did not perform well, but because he wasn't given enough opportunities to make plays. If he was given more attempts, his numbers would have increased and Denver could have won a few more games. I do however, think that we need to draft another RB to spell Moreno because I think that our backfield lacks speed.
Whoever the new coach is, I also hope that they retain LenDale White, or if they don't, at least acquire a power back and get some sort of backfield together that looks like the Wisconsin Badgers's backfield. Acquiring two backs that can share the load with Moreno, I believe, could do wonders for this team and for whoever the quarterback is...be it Tebow or Andrew Luck (darn, almost made it through the post without mentioning either one). If the new staff wants to keep Lance Ball, I would not have a problem with that, because he seems to have good skills for the position. I still think we need one more RB, so that Moreno can stay off the inactive list along with the other backs. With a three-back system and an offensive line that will gain another year of experience, I think that this team will have no troubles running the football next year.
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I was just about to type the same thing......
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
He was just pointing out that Moreno did not get the opportunity to showcase his talents
184 carries is not a lot, plus a inconsistent o-line did not help at all.
Exactly
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Also
his time lost to injury doesn’t help either. I was just surprised to see something besides Tebow and Luck!
You present a compelling argument
I really do not think that our running game will be a problem when we are healthy. Then if you chalk on another year of experience, I think the issues with our running game our over blown. Then if you stick Tebow in to the mix where you have no idea if he is going to throw, hand off, or keep it, I personally think that our offense will find it self in 2011.
Injuries to our offensive line played a part in Knowshow's no runs...
With a year under their belt this OL imo can be very good if they stay together…
Stats can be used to support any position.....
…….I know, its my job ;) Moreno has a hard time staying healthy and seemed to come out of many games. Also, he has a hard time breaking tackles. LT has amazing speed and moves. A first round RB, even those with a terrible line should have some Wow runs. Moreno has very few. So IMO, his inability to stay healthy, break tackles, run away from the back, or really even make the first guy miss with much consistency is why he will just be an average back in this league. No where even near LTs jock strap. But I’d love to be wrong, it happens all the time.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
I’m not saying that Moreno is better than LT. I just wanted to point out that Moreno isn’t a bust or close to being one. If Moreno had the same amount of attempts LT did in his 2nd year, I don’t think that we’d have a problem with Moreno. Plus, the more chances you get, the more chances you have to break a long run.
Your points are well taken. Another reason I did the comparison was to confirm that we need another RB to help keep Moreno healthy. Moreno’s health certainly played a factor in his lack of carries, but missing three games isn’t going to take away 150 carries.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
I hope you are right about being satisfied with him eventually....
…..I just think he will be remembered as average, which isn’t what we want from a 1st round RB. Of all of the skill positions, I believe RB is the last one to take in early rounds. It seems good ones can be found throughout the draft. And on top of that, they have such short windows (in most cases) it just isn’t worth taking early.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
MJD’s longest run of the year this year was 37 yds, but I know that stat can be twisted around as well. A RB doesn’t have to break off 80 yd runs every four weeks to be effective. I think you’re right, Moreno does lack the speed to break off longer runs, but that’s why I said we need to draft a speedy back in the draft.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
I'm one of those that have been critical of Moreno...
His production jumped a bit at the end of the season and he showed some flashes…particularly when catching the ball. But, I still believe that we need another RB…not to spell Moreno…but to have Moreno provide the change of pace. I see Moreno as a #2 back…able to come in and carry the rock 8-12 times a game and catch 3-5 passes. I think he is too fragile and can’t hold up to a full workload every game. We need a back that CAN carry the rock 15-20 times a game and that won’t break down but that can get stronger as the game goes on. I just don’t think that is Moreno. And that is why he was a bad choice as our first pick couple years ago…but not a bust.
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How many games has this guy played when he wasn't injured?
I think Moreno is a joke and anyone who thinks he is going to all-of-a-sudden play healthy is a mystery to me.
Moreno can't stay healthy enough for 182 carries let a lone 300+
I’m not sure we’ll ever get to see Moreno touch the ball that many times to find out. I personally think Moreno is a very good back but he is not a home run threat when he touches the ball.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 4, 2011 9:06 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
your comment says it all
oldcoachB
"The will to win, the desire to succeed, the urge to reach your full potential...
these are the keys that will unlock the door to personal excellence."
Agree with Broncomath101
Defenses don’t have to prepare for Moreno like they do C.Johnson, A.Peterson, or even L.T. He will never IMO be that type of back.
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by timmaybronco on Jan 4, 2011 10:16 PM MST up reply actions
can we stop saying knowshon moreno will never finish a season that he will never be a star 2 seasons does not predict how his career will be . thomas jones is a pretty good back right? ist round pick 2000 draft he was often injured didnt have 1000 yard season until 2004! im too lazy to look up more running backs but knowhon once again has 1000 yards from scrimmage he has 8 total tds he is a threat and can improve

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