Some Clarification is in Order - Off-Season Stats: Rookie Quarterbacks
Well, I'm back from my MHR vacation, feeling rested, relaxed, and ready for the off-season.
As I continue Some Clarification is in Order, I wanted to try and mix up the off-season bore with something different then "mock off-season #219." Now I always enjoyed posting in the off-season more then the regular season because the site quiets down, people become more rational as they begin to review the past season. So along those lines, Some Clarification is in Order will be dealing with stats that may have been overlooked or over simplified during the season.
Now these won't just be reviews of the past season, but will be looking at trends in the league as well as our specific players. This first post will be review the rookie wide receivers of this season, and looking back at past seasons. Let's begin with the quarterbacks shall we.
Quarterbacks:
This section will be reviewing the status of each QB drafted in the first three rounds of the draft going back till 2000. It won't deal with their statistics on the season because each team usually only has one quarterback, and backups only come into play because of injury, in our case or Cleveland, or because the game is out of hand.
This table will cover where they were drafted, did they start game 1 of their rookie season, how many games they started that season, and are they starting now. Each draft also will list the number of rookie starters and how many of that draft class are still starting.
For the rookies of the 2010 season, since we aren't sure of their future status, their starting status is left blank.
|
Year |
Draft Spot |
Rookie Starter |
Games Start as Rookie |
Starter Now |
|
2010 |
1 |
|||
|
1 |
Y |
16 |
||
|
25 |
N |
3 |
||
|
48 |
N |
13 |
||
|
85 |
N |
8 |
||
|
2009 |
2 |
3 |
||
|
Matt Stafford |
1 |
Y |
10 |
Y |
|
5 |
Y |
15 |
Y |
|
|
17 |
N |
9 |
Y |
|
|
44 |
N |
0 |
N |
|
|
2008 |
2 |
2 |
||
|
Matt Ryan |
3 |
Y |
16 |
Y |
|
18 |
Y |
16 |
Y |
|
|
56 |
N |
3 |
N |
|
|
Brian Brohn |
57 |
N |
0 |
N |
|
2007 |
0 |
0 |
||
|
1 |
N |
4 |
N |
|
|
22 |
N |
1 |
N |
|
|
36 |
N |
1 |
N |
|
|
40 |
N |
5 |
N |
|
|
43 |
N |
3 |
N |
|
|
92 |
N |
9 |
N |
|
|
2006 |
1 |
1 |
||
|
3 |
Y |
15 |
N |
|
|
10 |
N |
12 |
N |
|
|
11 |
N |
5 |
Y |
|
|
49 |
N |
2 |
N |
|
|
64 |
N |
4 |
N |
|
|
81 |
N |
0 |
N |
|
|
85 |
N |
0 |
N |
|
|
2005 |
0 |
1 |
||
|
Alex Smith |
1 |
N |
9 |
N |
|
24 |
N |
3 |
Y |
|
|
25 |
N |
0 |
N |
|
|
67 |
N |
5 |
N |
|
|
69 |
N |
8 |
N |
|
|
85 |
N |
0 |
N |
|
|
2004 |
0 |
4 |
||
|
1 |
N |
9 |
Y |
|
|
4 |
N |
2 |
Y |
|
|
11 |
N |
14 |
Y |
|
|
22 |
N |
4 |
N |
|
|
90 |
N |
1 |
Y |
|
|
2003 |
1 |
2 |
||
|
Carson Plamer |
1 |
N |
0 |
Y |
|
7 |
Y |
11 |
N |
|
|
19 |
N |
15 |
N |
|
|
22 |
N |
3 |
Y |
|
|
Dave Ragone |
88 |
N |
2 |
N |
|
97 |
N |
2 |
N |
|
|
2002 |
1 |
0 |
||
|
1 |
Y |
16 |
N |
|
|
3 |
N |
14 |
N |
|
|
32 |
N |
9 |
N |
|
|
81 |
N |
0 |
N |
|
|
2001 |
1 |
2 |
||
|
1 |
N |
8 |
Y |
|
|
32 |
N |
1 |
Y |
|
|
Quincy Carter |
53 |
Y |
8 |
N |
|
59 |
N |
1 |
N |
|
|
2000 |
0 |
0 |
||
|
18 |
N |
1 |
N |
|
|
Giovanni Carmazzi |
65 |
N |
0 |
N |
Review:
This season doesn't seem much different then those of the past. Sam Bradford was the only one to start the season as the team's starter, but Tebow, Clausen and McCoy all saw playing time, either because of injury of because they replaced the starter. obviously some drafts of the past have been more successful then others. Looking at the 2004, with all four quarterbacks starting, and two have rings, it was a fantastic quarterback draft, while others, like 2007 or 2002, didn't turn out quite as well.
As I went back and rewatched each quarterbacks play this season, all have shown potential, sans Clausen. Bradford was head and shoulders above the other rookies quarterbacks. Watching him play is pretty enjoyable, and while he had some bad games, he showed poise and great football intelligence in the pocket and despite playing with little offensive talent around him, he set rookie records. And it's not just about his statistics, he showed maturity, won the team over, and with each throw, you could see his receivers trusted him.
McCoy and Tebow had similar seasons, Tebow saw limited playing time in the red zone before starting after an Orton injury. Tebow had great success running the ball, planned or unplanned, which most expected, but struggled with accuracy. After rewatching his games, he doesn't have much touch on the ball, and tends to be a half second off on his throws, something that will improve with practice no doubt. With more practice, Tebow can work these issues out.
McCoy had a very solid season, showing the same toughness as Tebow, but also greater accuracy. His interception stats are misleading, after watching his games again, most came of drops by the receivers. McCoy is showing he was a steal in the 3rd.
Clausen was skittish in the pocket, afraid to make throws, and was off-target all season, and while these are coachable things, he lacks confidence to really be great. He needs a lot of work or talent around him to help him grow.
Overall, 2010 is looking like a solid draft class.
Next time on Some Clarification is in Order - Off-Season Stats: Rookie Wide Recievers
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Rec, glad to have you back Max
Now just remember to behave yourself.
Orton, Tebow, Quinn, who cares as long as the Broncos win.
Haha thanks
It’s amazing what taking a break from internet people will do for a guys attitude.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Dude, you let me down
I soo wanted to see offseason stats for rookie QBs. How many, em, touchdowns did each one score? I mean the stuff that in non-football circles is known as scoring a HR.
Makes one wonder what an INT would stand for?
That's coming, don't worry
This is just a look at the trend of the league. Also, it’s important to take into account talent around the player as well. McCoy lacked any real receiving threat, as did Bradford, and both suffered from a lot of dropped balls, rookie stats can be very misleading, the key is do they earn a starting job later. Those stats are available on NFL.com in a very basic form if you wanted to look at it.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
rec'd
Welcome back Max
I know that this is asking a lot…but I would love to see a more in depth breakdown of what these stats mean.
There are some questions I would like to pose in case you decide to go into depth with this.
How do these numbers correlate when compared to QB’s of the past that peformed at amazing levels? Does starting off the bat, playing a few games first season then starting, or does not starting at all right away correlate to success?
also…I think you typo’d Rookie Wide Receivers when you meant QB…Just tryinta help haha.
otherwise THANKS MAX
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
From my review of the stats, as well as the general story here
Playing a few games as a rookie helps a QB, almost always, but I found that those who experienced the most success, usually don’t become starter till season 3 or 4. Rookies who start their rookie season USUALLY, not always, tend to be benched later. There are exceptions to both thoughts, but generally that’s how it works. I didn’t want to read to much into because Tebow is a touchy topic here, so I just wanted to present the table and let people work it out themselves.
And as for rookie wide receivers, if you are referring to the bottom, no that is what my next post is on, but as the off-season progresses, I’ll revisit this topic and I’ll go deeper into the stats then. This is just a look at the trends of league over the past decade on rookie starting trends.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
sure thing,
I just loved the info.
Great Read!
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
Great post max and thanks for it...
There sure are a lot of names I’d forgotten and haven’t really heard of for a while. Tebow for President!
Haha, yea, it shows that QB's, even 1st round ones
Don’t always pan out. Here’s hoping Tebow does.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Welcoem back
No rest for the weary and this fanbase is about as weary as you can get right now!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The artist formerly known as ZAPPA
Agreed, and this is going to be a long off-season
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
PS...I think after watching Andrew Luck in the Sugar Bowl against VT that he is going to be special.
Harbaugh and the kid disected the Hoakies after a couple of failed drives…The boy is NFL ready imo with the way he was reading the Hoakies defense.
Did you see Tebow against CIN in his final Sugar Bowl?
Made Luck’s performance seem pedestrian. Just sayin’…you can’t judge anything from college performance. Making the jump to the NFL is 100% mental, because all these top prospects have the talent.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The artist formerly known as ZAPPA
Agreed, anyone who thinks he's overrated
Doesn’t watch the guy play. Comparisons to other QB’s is hard because he plays so smart. I don’t think he’ll end up here, or if he should, but it’s laughable the ability of some fans to put a player down.
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