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Making a Move | DenverBroncos.com
The Broncos hope starting Tim Tebow at quarterback is a change that will lead to wins.

The Future is Now in Denver | National Football Post
With the much-anticipated announcement in Denver that Tim Tebow is now the starting quarterback for the Broncos, let’s look at a few angles of the decision (I think there is a cottage industry in the media simply discussing Tim Tebow).

NFL.com news: Broncos players deal with QB switch, look forward to Tebow
Out of respect for Kyle Orton, Broncos players wouldn't rejoice in Tim Tebow's promotion to starter, although they're excited to see if the QB can turn things around after a 1-4 start.

Royal Reunion: WR Practices for First Time in Four Weeks | MaxDenver.com
When wide receiver Eddie Royal injured his groin during the second quarter of the Sept. 18 game against Cincinnati, he feared he might not see the field again for a long while. Instead, he was only absent for three and a half weeks.

Broncos have more positions to deal with than just quarterback - The Denver Post
Most will return to their offseason home. A few will be spotted on the sideline of their college alma mater. Las Vegas draws its share of NFL players during the bye week.

Play of Tim Tebow Will Determine the Denver Broncos' Draft - NFL Mocks
Denver Broncos fans got what they asked for–it’s finally Tebow time, and the excitement level in Denver couldn’t be higher.

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Denver Broncos News

Bye Week - Wednesday: Fox | DenverBroncos.com
Head Coach John Fox talks to the media after the team's final practice before breaking for the bye.

Bye Week - Wednesday: Allen | DenverBroncos.com
Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen talks about how the defense will need to improve after the bye week.

Bye Week - Wednesday: McCoy | DenverBroncos.com
Offensive Coordinator Mike McCoy talks about Tim Tebow starting at quarterback next week against Miami.

NFL.com news: Trading winds: Deals that should get done before deadline
Denver trades Kyle Orton to Miami for a draft pick, which the Broncos then package along with Brandon Lloyd in a deal with Carolina for Jimmy Clausen.

NFL.com news: Ex-Broncos CB Cox's sexual assault trial delayed until next year
The trial of former Denver Broncos cornerback Perrish Cox on sexual assault charges has been postponed until February.

Thumbs up, thumbs down for Tebow | London Free Press
While the announcement that Tebow was taking over the starting quarterback job in Denver was made on Tuesday, it has been in the works ever since the Broncos made him their first-round pick in the 2010 draft.

Woody's Mailbag: Ignore the hate, Tim Tebow ready to be Broncos QB - The Denver Post
Sports columnist Woody Paige answers your questions in Woodys Mailbag. In this installment, Woody tackles seven questions, including two wondering why everybody likes to pick on Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow.

Broncos coach Fox concerned about offensive timing over bye week - The Denver Post
As Wednesdays practice concluded, Broncos coach John Fox sent his team into a four-day weekend with a simple message.

Rod Smith: Former Bronco talks Tebow, receivers and autographs - The Denver Post
Fan Mail: In this weeks installment, Rod Smith, the Broncos all-time leading receiver, talks about Tim Tebow, Denvers current receiving corps and the art of signing autographs.

Broncos' Orton isn't likely going anywhere despite demotion - The Denver Post
Todays questions about the Broncos come from Gabriel. Q: Now that Miami is on the hunt for a quarterback, what are the odds that Denver receives another call about Kyle Orton?

Broncos can't accomplish much during their bye week - The Denver Post
The Broncos sent their players into the bye week after Wednesdays practice and wont seem them again until Monday morning.

Denver Broncos Blogs

Royal Back At Practice | DenverBroncos.com
Wide receiver Eddie Royal returned to practice and hopes to play against Miami after the bye.

Rookie Watch: Solder flashing potential - ESPN
Miller didn't play a ton of snaps due to injury and only saw the field in Week 5 during passing situations. But he did notch yet another sack. Denver's bye could do him a lot of good after his worst game as a professional.

Putting Von Miller’s numbers in perspective - BroncoTalk
Broncos rookie linebacker Von Miller has recorded five sacks in five games this season, notching a sack in four consecutive games.  Just how impressive is that?

Broncos receivers mending for Tebow’s debut - BroncoTalk
And on the last day of practice, The Appointed One said, "Let there be targets."

How long will Tim Tebow lead the Broncos? [Poll] - LA Times
Tim Tebow has earned the starting quarterback job with the Denver Broncos, but how long will he keep it (assuming he stays healthy)?

NFL Trade Rumors: Denver Broncos Shopping Brandon Lloyd? - Turf Show Times
The NFL trade deadline is next Tuesday, October 18. Between now and then, you will hear any number of NFL trade rumors floating around the internet and  talk radio...and very few trades actually happening. The low level, unconfirmed, probably bogus talk about the Denver Broncos shopping wide receiver Brandon Lloyd surfaced again last night. 

NFL performance matrix: Broncos far from leaders in total yardage | First-and-Orange
Which team leads the NFL in total yards with 495.2 per game? Not the Denver Broncos, who enter their bye this weekend with an average of 303.6 total yards per game — good for 25th in the league.

The trouble with having Kyle Orton as Broncos captain | First-and-Orange
It’s not so much weird that Kyle Orton is not the Broncos’ starting quarterback as it’s awkward to see him in the front line leading the team stretch as a team captain and backup quarterback.

Plenty of tickets remain for Broncos-Dolphins game | First-and-Orange
According to South Florida Sun-Sentinel columnist David Hyde, there are nearly 30,000 tickets still unsold for the Oct. 23 game between the Broncos and Dolphins at Sun Life Stadium.

NFL News

WalterFootball.com: NFL Picks Against the Spread - Week 6, 2011
Week 5 Recap: The good news is that I went 9-4 overall and 8-4-1 with totals, though that latter figure is probably a fluke. The bad news is that I went 2-3 with the five three-unit picks I posted last week. I have a complaint and an apology about this. Let's go with the apology first, since that's least interesting.

N.F.L. Week 6 Game Probabilities - NYTimes.com
Atlanta is favored over Carolina, no surprise given their seasons last year, but statistically they're nearly identical teams, with one critical difference.

Pat Modell, actress and wife of Art Modell, dies  | ajc.com
BALTIMORE — Patricia Modell, the wife of former NFL team owner Art Modell and a longtime television actress, has died.

NFL's miking of linemen not sitting well with all, including the New Orleans Saints - NOLA.com
The NFL, in its endless quest to make the game more interesting to a vast television audience, is apparently asking players to pay for it. The league reportedly fined Baltimore Ravens center Matt Kirk $5,000 for refusing to wear a microphone nestled in his pads last Sunday.

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Brandon Lloyd for Clausen?

No thanks

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 7:59 AM MDT reply actions  

No kidding no deal

What is Brandt thinking? Tebow, Quinn, and Clausen, and Weber? I don’t see that happening even if Fox drafted Clausen for Carolina and Quinn is in the last year of his contract. All the rumors of the Broncos shopping Lloyd are qualified as “unfounded.”

If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.

by OrangeandBluesBros on Oct 13, 2011 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would rather have Weber or Quinn backing Tebow than Clausen

Lloyd for Clausen the panthers would have to throw some picks in there and maybe another player. A starter caliber player on D

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not just Lloyd...

Lloyd and the pick Miami gives us for Orton to get Clausen. How does that guy even have a job?

by Tazzik on Oct 13, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow I didn't read the article

I stopped here at Lloyd for clausen. Now we even throw a pick in there? Is That McD writing under the guise of some mock drafter?

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

WTF?!

Brandt said obtain Clausen in a three way trade and send Lloyd packing?

What the….I don’t even….?

Chuck Norris once asked Tim Tebow for advice on martial arts.

by prototype on Oct 13, 2011 8:09 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm not usually as down on the MSM as most here but the Clausen- Lloyd trade is perhaps the silliest rumour I have heard in a long time.

I’m not against trading Lloyd per se, but Clausen? Seriously?

I see they also think the Pats should trade a 1st for Jared Allen. Again cannot see that happening anytime soon. Not the Patriot way.

What would Blackie Lawless do?

by British Bronco on Oct 13, 2011 8:19 AM MDT reply actions  

Let's trade a stud WR for the second coming of Brady Quinn.

As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"

by MrFNSunshine on Oct 13, 2011 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Kind of like

trading a stud RB (Hillis) for the first coming of Brady Quinn. No.

If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.

by OrangeandBluesBros on Oct 13, 2011 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

He must think McDaniels is still the HC here

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh right

Gotta go with ur NE homies

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Brandt was right on this part anyway...
Following the nasty divorce between the Packers and Brett Favre in 2008, Green Bay finished 6-10 yet felt satisfied and hopeful for a bright future. The transition to a new face of the franchise — Aaron Rodgers — was clear; the won-loss record for that season was secondary. The same is now occurring in Carolina. The won-loss record for 2011 is secondary; Cam Newton has brought hope to the franchise for what they hope to be a long time.

That is exactly the situation as it stands.

I’m slightly annoyed by the new CBA restrictions on practices and time off…..I really wonder if the players don’t dislike them as well….

W-L record doesn't matter to me.... I just want to see a team on the rise at the end of the year!

by Broncotodd on Oct 13, 2011 8:25 AM MDT reply actions  

Actually

That was one of the key points they lobbied for Todd. Too much practice and OTA’s.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

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by KaptainKirk on Oct 13, 2011 8:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah...but I bet there are some who might regret it.

14 full practices for an entire year seems silly… It could very easily be the explanation for why the tackling around the NFL this year has been worse.

W-L record doesn't matter to me.... I just want to see a team on the rise at the end of the year!

by Broncotodd on Oct 13, 2011 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would think the Lockout is to blame for much of that

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

KaptainKirk on FaceBook

by KaptainKirk on Oct 13, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Kirk- what about all our injuries

sorry for the tangent, but can you refer me to any old MHR stories on Tuten or broncos conditioning more generally? injuries have done serious damage to our performance in the last few years, and we (+ giants?) seem to be getting hit really hard. i want to develop an informed view on whether our organization needs better guidance in the area of fitness, strength training and nutrition. Romo anybody? Just kidding.

by LouisWright on Oct 13, 2011 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can

I will e mail you some stuff.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

KaptainKirk on FaceBook

by KaptainKirk on Oct 13, 2011 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Clausen/Lloyd stuff

Honestly, I had to check to make sure I wasn’t reading The Onion when I saw that. That’s just hilariously bad.

by scooter17 on Oct 13, 2011 8:30 AM MDT reply actions  

The Rod Smith article was really good

That guy is a class act through and through. One of my all time favorite Broncos

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 8:35 AM MDT reply actions  

Absolutely!

He proves what happens when hard work meets talent

Von Miller doesn't sleep, he waits

by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 13, 2011 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

here here!

Hope Rod stays involved with the organization.

by LouisWright on Oct 13, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

How did.....

“hoping for wins” get chaged to “will lead to wins”? MSMand many “fans” have a lot invested in their boy Timmy. He’d better perform or the Crows will be near extinction………….

by Gulbrand on Oct 13, 2011 9:24 AM MDT reply actions  

If he doesn't then we have a shot

At a deep QB class at either luck, Barkley or jones. Either way it’s win/win so I think your crows are safe

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

isn't Luck

supposed to be the best prospect since peyton manning, in fact, a better prospect? not so sure any of the other qbs in the upcoming draft are worthy to mention in the same group with Luck…and Luck has 1 more year of eligibility, so maybe he tells the colts to shove it if they pick first.

by LouisWright on Oct 13, 2011 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

And then he comes to us?

We screw the Colts yet again…

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

klis makes a good point about selecting captains.

now the broncos have orton as their captain, leading warmups and sitting on the bench. i’ve always wondered about that and i still don’t see team captains as having much value. if you lead you lead; it shouldn’t be a matter of wearing a C anyway.

"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox

by oxmouth on Oct 13, 2011 10:03 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

do we have to grow up?

The “C” is like the little gold stars we used to get for doing our chores or getting an A in spelling. A handy badge of honor that indicates peer recognition and favor, great for truing up our behaviors to an externalized version of the ‘good.’

Rec’d your comment by the way….

Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 13, 2011 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

i’ll take that rec’d. klis can get his own.

we got star stickers in jr. high for making a good play. that would make sense in the nfl. always helps to know who’s top rooster (and equally important who’s not). in fact, didn’t some college-turned-pro coach try that once in 80s or something? probably switzer. let’s just say it was switzer.

"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox

by oxmouth on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gil Brandt

Was partially responsible for the Cowboys’ disastrous player personnel decisions in the 1980’s, and gets a little too much credit for the organization’s success prior to that.

His suggestion is just the sort of thing McDaniels might have tried, am I wrong? I wouldn’t trade a day old onion bagel for Jimmy Clausen, let alone our best wideout.

And I like how Tebow’s TD percentage over 14 quarters is somehow worth comparing in an equal light to Tom Brady, who started every game over that same period and handled the ball five times as much. That’s just a garbage stat designed to prove a preconceived argument.

It’s all about the wins. Simple as that.

First get me some wins. I never drink Kool-Aid on an empty stomach.

by TheMastermind on Oct 13, 2011 10:56 AM MDT reply actions  

Landry Jones and Matt Barkley

Do these names keep coming up on this blog because they are what we hear from the MSM as top 10 picks or are they popular because we’ve watched them play and think they’re a good fit. Honestly having watched Landry Jones quite a bit over the last 2+ I have not been very impressed with his accuracy. Barkley is a little more impressive but doesn’t stand out to me as Top 5 talent.

Luck on the other hand, I get the fascination.

IMHO Ryan Tannehill is more raw than any of these three but might have a higher ceiling than Barkley or Jones

Von Miller doesn't sleep, he waits

by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 13, 2011 2:37 PM MDT reply actions  

For me its MSM

I dont really follow college, except for Arkansas, and only because thats my gf’s team

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Oct 13, 2011 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Appreciation

I’ve been a member of MHR for a couple of years now. I haven’t posted a comment in about two years as well. However, I read the Horsetracks post every day and get my daily dose of Broncos media. Just wanted to say thank you to KaptainKirk for his time and efforts in giving us the daily reads! Thank you sir !

by luvmymeg33 on Oct 13, 2011 3:29 PM MDT reply actions  

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