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Luck will never ever ever sign with the Colts and here's why:

 

On a slow say, I thought I would talk about a different sort of topic.  Jim Irsay (owner of the Colts) said recently he would definitely consider taking Luck if he was in the position to do so.  He pointed out how Rodgers sat behind Farvre for a few years.  The MSM picked this up and ran with it for a while.  All of the MSM discussion really focused on it from the Colts point of view.  I believe there is no way Luck would sign with the Colts and here is why:

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  1. He is a junior and can go back for his senior year if he wants.
  2. I'm sure this talk of being the best prospect since Elway has swelled his head and probably wants to play as opposed to hold a clipboard for 2-4 years.
  3. This is the most hyped QB in decades and I suspect he has no intention of riding the pine for those previously mentioned 2-4 years.  Consider that his contract will be 4-5 years.  Think of the money he could lose by riding the pine.  He wouldn't have a chance to prove himself for a huge next contract.  Second, he will not be getting the big endorsements if he doesn't play.  If you were his agent, would you tell him to play for the Colts?

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I think there is significant money involved, so yes.

If he goes back to school, he will almost definitely be starting in the NFL in 2 years. If he goes this year and is drafted by the Colts, he could be sitting for the entire first round contract. What if Manning goes all Farvre and plays into his 40s?

"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!

by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

my understanding is that

Luck’s family is far from broke and Money isn’t a big factor.

"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow

by MTBroncosFan on Oct 19, 2011 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

But do you think he really wants to not play football

for a few years? And I’m sure they have some money, but not the kind of money we are talking about here.

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by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

They have a lot of money...

You may be right about wanting to play rather than ride the pine, but I really dont think money is a factor. I also doubt that he went back to school simply to avoid the Panthers

From Boston.com

Andrew Luck did, in fact, grow up in a family of substantial means. His father, Oliver, was a standout football player at West Virginia who spent four years with the Houston Oilers before retiring and earning a law degree. He was the general manager of the Frankfurt Galaxy of the World League of American Football and later the league president. He was CEO of the Houston Sports Authority. He is currently the director of athletics at his alma mater. He may not be Bill Gates, but I suspect he’s worth well into seven figures.

"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow

by MTBroncosFan on Oct 19, 2011 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Luck and The Broncos...3 degrees of seperation

Oliver Luck was indeed the GM of the Frankfurt Galaxy and guess who he hired as his head coach, none other than Jack Elway. Things that make you go “HUMM”

by bubba lou on Oct 19, 2011 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

BTW

I am not trying to hammer a point here, I am just trying to say that Luck is not even close to your average recruit. You cannot look at him the same way, he is likely unpredictable. Which I guess in a way strengthens the authors argument.

"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow

by MTBroncosFan on Oct 19, 2011 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

One of the reasons I started thinking on this was...

…something on ESPN today saying there were several knowledgeable people that thought he could very well pull an Eli Manning (or Elway ;0 ) and have some say on who he plays for. Who knows if any of this is true, but I thought it would be an interesting exercise to dissect if he would play for the Colts if the “knowledgeable people” were correct.

"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!

by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

The interesting thing is...

no one even knows for sure that he wants to play pro football. It’s a lot of pain to go through if you don’t need the money. Maybe that had something to do with him staying out of the draft for a year. I agree, this is an interesting topic. The situation is so unique. I do think that the talking heads are likely talking out of their stink holes. They will take any way to get Luck in the news…

"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow

by MTBroncosFan on Oct 19, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Then the Colts will probably go all Packers like

and get rid of Manning before he really wants to retire. However with the type of neck injury that Manning has, I seriously doubt he plays till he’s 40. We’ll probably see him for another couple years but his retirement will come sooner rather than later.

And now for something completely different

by AlbertaBronc on Oct 19, 2011 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

and if things don’t go very good with the recovery, sooner could be before the draft. This is not his first neck injury.

"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow

by MTBroncosFan on Oct 19, 2011 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

If think if Manning is forced to have another neck surgery

then the last we saw of Manning was him running a terribly designed play for his skill set (a QB rollout) on 4th down of an 2010 AFC wildcard playoff game.

It’s unfathomable and I know Manning is trying his hardest to return but it’s a real possibility.

And now for something completely different

by AlbertaBronc on Oct 19, 2011 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

If I could only think of a precedent!

Is it possible for the Colts to draft the No. 1 quarterback coming out of college and then trade him to Denver? Aw shucks, things like that only happen in the movies. ( or in NativeFan4Life’s Ultimate Stories).

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by firstfan on Oct 19, 2011 12:41 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

good one, ff

but most won’ t find this humerous. As another poster said, Karma?
Still laughing

Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.

by Boiler etc on Oct 19, 2011 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or worse. Irony!

We end up with the #1 pick and he refused to play for us.

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by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Can you enter the draft without signing with an agent?

Just wondering, because I don’t think he can return to school if he’s signed. I think if he really doesn’t want to play for the Colts, and it appears that they are the most likely to sign him, he just won’t declare for the draft. If that’s the way he’s thinking.

Personally, I’m sickened by the fact that the Colts are actually in this position. I’ve had enough of them being at the top of the standings for the last 12 years. If they get Luck, and the reports on him are accurate, I’ll have to go through it all again. I’d almost rather he go ANY other team. Except NE. I’m sick of them too. Oh, and maybe Pittsburgh :)

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by Jason Witte on Oct 19, 2011 12:47 PM MDT reply actions  

I also do not want him with any team in the AFC West...

….I’m actually ok with him going to the Dolphins. I don’t want McD to have him either!

And if he doesn’t sign with an agent, then he can go back to school…

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by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

The only way McD get's Luck is if he's fired from St. Louis

and is hired by the team that picks Luck. St. Louis has been bad but it’s not because of Bradford. There’s no way they are giving up on Bradford even if they finish 32nd.

And now for something completely different

by AlbertaBronc on Oct 19, 2011 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Unless they trade Bradford and go with Luck.

Which is what I would do. I would think they could easily get a mid-late first for Bradford unless he completely tanks this season.

Record since the start of last year:

Kyle Orton: 4-13
John Fox: 3-17

Forgive me if I'm less than patient building a franchise around these guys.

by Kgrone on Oct 19, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

It is a possibility

but they’ve already put a lot of time and effort into Bradford. Luck might be a better prospect but Bradford is their guy and he’s a darn good prospect as well.

I could see it happening if Spags is fired and the new coaching staff decides to go with their own guy and instead of Bradford but I think Spags would keep Bradford and take the next best player for them which would most likely be either Jeffrey or Blackmon.

And now for something completely different

by AlbertaBronc on Oct 19, 2011 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nah, if they don't take Luck....

…they trade the 1st pick for an absolute bounty.

"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!

by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

that's what I meant

either if they pick 1st or 10th, they’re taking a WR with CB as an outside possibility

And now for something completely different

by AlbertaBronc on Oct 19, 2011 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

no worries about McD

he’ll package a 2, 3 and 4 to trade up and snag ryan tannehill.

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by orange cube on Oct 19, 2011 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think Manning has more than a couple years left

due to the shape of his neck so I doubt Luck would ride the pine for the entire length of his 1st contract.

Luck also doesn’t strike me as a guy who would complain about sitting behind a QB like Manning. In fact he strikes me as a guy who would love it. One of Luck’s many attributes is that he’s incredibly smart and a student of the game. I’m sure he’d love sitting behind Manning and learning everything Manning has to teach. He still might opt to stay for his senior year to play one more year but it won’t be because he has to sit behind Manning.

And now for something completely different

by AlbertaBronc on Oct 19, 2011 1:09 PM MDT reply actions  

My thoughts as well

I actually think Luck would prefer a team like the Colts for these reasons. Plus the Colts are already set up for his style of play. Instead of having to be on the typical bottom feeder and waiting for them to build a team around him, he’d have everything set.

None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal

by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Oct 19, 2011 1:24 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Are you sure he would have everything set?

Without Manning, they can’t win a game. That tells me there are many, many holes on this team.

"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!

by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's a team set up to run with a great QB

Without one they were bound to fail. So for Luck, this would be the perfect opportunity to come in and show what he’s got.

None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal

by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Oct 19, 2011 1:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or die without one.

Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.

by Boiler etc on Oct 19, 2011 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Colts minus Manning...

Are a typical bottom feeder. That’s why they may be in position to draft Luck. Goes to show you what a great QB can do for a team, and also why I’ve always rated Manning above Brady.

Record since the start of last year:

Kyle Orton: 4-13
John Fox: 3-17

Forgive me if I'm less than patient building a franchise around these guys.

by Kgrone on Oct 19, 2011 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I disagree

They’re not typical because all they’re missing is a great QB. The typical bottom feeder on the other hand has gapping holes in most if not all positions.

None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal

by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Oct 19, 2011 1:56 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

they do have gaping holes though

Their offensive line is one of the worst in football (Manning covered up a lot of that with his quick release), Addai is good, but not young for an RB and Brown is terrible, and their entire defensive scheme only works if they are ahead and they know the opposing offense has to pass.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Oct 19, 2011 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

There is no guarantee that Manning will play again. And even if he does, that he would play for 4-5 years.

The Colts aren’t going to draft Luck, pay him #1 pick money and keep Manning. That would be too much $$ tied up in the QB position. The Packers could do it with Rodgers because he was drafted late first round.

If the Colts take him, he will be their starter.

I think he didn’t come out last year due to the lock-out uncertainty. He didn’t want to sit a year not playing at all. He will come out now. Too much $$ on the table to risk getting injured in college.

Behind the scenes, I wonder how the Colts feel about Manning. The gave him big $$ but allowed him to waive the physical and now he may never play again. If they get the #1 pick, they have to seriously consider moving Manning and getting Luck.

by McJay on Oct 19, 2011 2:02 PM MDT reply actions  

Rookie pay is much different now.

With the new agreement, they could definitely afford to keep both.

None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal

by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Oct 19, 2011 2:20 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Manning gets something like $20M/year. Even at $8M for a back-up they really can’t afford it, they need to pay other players to field a decent team. They need their back-up to make pennies.

You are right the rookie pay is less now (Luck won’t get a $60M contract) but it is still high for a 1st round QB vs. a back-up like Painter.

by McJay on Oct 19, 2011 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thats what tebow's contract was under the old scale at the 25th pick

I bet they can afford it

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by Calikula on Oct 19, 2011 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

They can definitely afford it

Cam Newton’s contract is only guaranteed $22 million over four years, or just over $5 million a season. The Colts are also currently more than $7 million under the cap. Luck would be able to fit in just fine no matter who he replaces on their roster.

None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal

by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Oct 19, 2011 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Can they afford not paying that $7M to an OT or elite defensive player? I know they have the $ to afford it—I was talking about whether they can field a competitive team if 25% of their CAP is at one position (and a position where only 1 of the players is in the game at a time)?

I say the answer is no.

If they keep Manning they have to go for a SB and to do so means they need to sign more talent.

by McJay on Oct 20, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying

Your premise is that if they keep Manning, it’ll be for a win now at all costs type of deal. I don’t really see it that way. I think the most value you can get out of Manning at this point is to let Luck watch him play for a year or two and have him pass on anything and everything that he can. Maybe I’m giving up on the old Colt too soon, but with this neck injury, I see Manning’s best days behind him.

None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal

by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Oct 20, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Intersting post

But as Broncos fans why should we care?

by SoCalBronco7 on Oct 19, 2011 2:09 PM MDT reply actions  

I care where he goes...

I certainly don’t want him in KC!

"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow

by MTBroncosFan on Oct 19, 2011 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

So you don't care about the way..

..the other 31 teams put their teams together and who they draft? I do care as a football fan. In particular, I don’t want him in the AFC West. Also I am a Bronco fan but I do detest other teams and root against them pretty hard. Therefore, I don’t want him on the Pats, Vikings, or Jets either.

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by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Personally,

I hope he wouldn’t go to any other team except the Broncos. We’ll just have to wait and see if this kid really has any morals to speak of.

by go4broncos on Oct 19, 2011 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Please do not take me the wrong way

At this point the whole Luck thing is just speculation. As a football fan I could not care less until the season is over, he declares for the draft and we know what Indy is going to do. As a bronco fan even if we finish with the #1 pick we should trade it for a bunch of picks and build our team the right way.

by SoCalBronco7 on Oct 19, 2011 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I may agree with this depending on how Tebow looks for 11 games..

..of course, if we have the #1 pick, I suspect that means Hodge is right about Tebow……man, do I hope that SoB (Hodge) doesn’t get vindication.

"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!

by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

True

But it’s a bye week, so we’ve got to fill our time talking about something. Did you happen to vote on the WWYD poll?

by go4broncos on Oct 19, 2011 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe a repeat?

Last Stanford QB that refused to sign with the Colts is now our VP of football operations …. can lightning strike twice?

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by Flunkie on Oct 19, 2011 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think he'd start right away. I, personally, don't think Peyton will ever play another down.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 19, 2011 2:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Why?

Just wondering. i personally do think he comes back next year.

by valas40 on Oct 19, 2011 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Come on Troy

You are far too knowledgeable about football to say that Peyton will not play again.

by SoCalBronco7 on Oct 19, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with him.

It has nothing to do with Peyton’s ability.

It has to do with the severity of his injury. No guarantee this last surgey will work.

by McJay on Oct 19, 2011 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

McJay hit the nail right on the head.

It’s not about Peyton’s ability, it’s about Peyton’s injury.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 19, 2011 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just look at Al Wilson’s neck injury. He shouldn’t have played another down.

by AttwaterForHOF on Oct 19, 2011 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing

How is he going to lose money riding the pine, the contracts are slotted, he will get basically what Newton got, plus a little more for inflation, his money will be guarenteed. If he goes back to school and get injured, he stands to lose that money. So no way he doesn’t come out and sign with whoever.

As many have stated above, no guarentee Manning comes back at all or even plays another 4-5 years.

Sorry, but Luck will sign in Indy if they draft him.

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by Broncoman on Oct 19, 2011 3:09 PM MDT reply actions  

Well he did go back for this year....

….so he could do it again. Also, it isn’t the current contract I talk about in my argument, it is the next contract and endorsements. I’m really just trying to convince myself that Indy doesn’t get to go from HoF QB to HoF QB without suffering first. Of course, they have to live in Indiana, so maybe that is suffering enough.

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by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

He was redshirted in 2008, so he still has a year of eligibility if he wants it.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 19, 2011 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

You are wrong.

Luck is a red shirt Jr this season.

Brandon Lloyd won the Brandon Lloyd trade. Denver lost it.

by McGeorge on Oct 19, 2011 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Redshirt Junior?

You are confusing college level and NCAA eligibility. Luck is in his 4th year of college and therefore is a Senior. Because he was redshirted 1 year doesnt change the fact that he is a Senior, he simply has another year of eligibility if he decides to enter a Master’s program. He is college SENIOR with 1 year of eligibility to play football… Not a redshirt junior…

by Damon322 on Oct 20, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

It would be a funny irony however if he did end up with the Colts...

…I for one don’t think Luck is all we’ve been fed. He’s a good QB but not John Elway. I’m also sure he will never come close to either Peyton’s IQ. That’s what made the Peytons great…Archie’s IQ about the game. He passed it to his boys and they learned.

     I’m quite happy that I can this weekend listen (they’re not airing the game here) to Tebow play.

I may even join this weekends thread to see all your excitement.

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by Mike Clark on Oct 19, 2011 5:44 PM MDT reply actions  

You should definitely join the thread Sunday Mike!

Just be prepared for the first mistake Tim makes and at least 5 “see I told you so’s”.
I can’t wait to see Tebow lead this team!!

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by asinsoin on Oct 19, 2011 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

As far as I care it will be just one Pre-Season Game that starts a very long Pre-Season...

Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, and Davis.....
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.

by Mike Clark on Oct 19, 2011 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Very, very good point Mike

So I hope fans keep this in perspective.

Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.

by Boiler etc on Oct 19, 2011 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think they will....

…until McDaniels Denver fans were quite fine students of football. I’m not quite sure what happened as we watched McD dismantle our team….it just happened. I really believe, however, that the one thing McD did (that will haunt him that he’s not playing for him) isTim Tebow.

at least I hope something haunts McD……………………

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Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, and Davis.....
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.

by Mike Clark on Oct 19, 2011 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Right. He is a senior, but he still has a year of eligibility. He has only played 2 full seasons at Stanford and is partially through his 3rd.

So, although he is a senior, because he was redshirted as a freshman he can play another year of college football if he elects to do so.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 19, 2011 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

NO ONE would advise Luck to stay in college another year.

He is at the pinnacle right now, and his jazz and hype will never be higher.
If he is a class act guy and has all those intangibles MSM says are there, he will sign with whoever drafts him.
Of course, uness his dad advises him against it. P:

Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.

by Boiler etc on Oct 19, 2011 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

You could have made the exact same statement last year...

…and he went back.

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by bonaire on Oct 19, 2011 6:35 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

this. +1

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 19, 2011 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think he went back this year because he didnt like the situation in Carolina

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by Calikula on Oct 19, 2011 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that

I think it was because he doesn’t need the NFL money and he wanted to enjoy his senior year and have a shot at a national championship. Remember college? I had a lot of fun and I wasn’t big man on campus like he is.

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by MTBroncosFan on Oct 20, 2011 6:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

 haha, no never got to experience big name college, with dorms and such. Went to the service, and am currently enrolled in a PTA program at the local community college

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"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
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by Calikula on Oct 20, 2011 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Then remember all of those cheesy frat house movies. Looked like fun right…

"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow

by MTBroncosFan on Oct 20, 2011 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it did look like fun

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by Calikula on Oct 20, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

You are wrong Damon.

Luck is a red shirt Jr. and he has one of year of eligibility beyond 2011. He could enter the 2013 draft if he so chooses.

Brandon Lloyd won the Brandon Lloyd trade. Denver lost it.

by McGeorge on Oct 19, 2011 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Actually I am right...

He is a SENIOR… While he may have an extra year of eligibility left that would involve him entering a masters program but still doesnt change the FACT that he is a senior.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/380470/andrew-luck

by Damon322 on Oct 20, 2011 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

You crack me up Damon.

The context of the conversation is clearly centered around whether ot not Luck has another year of eligibility left. You incorrectly asserted that Luck had no eligibility left and McGeorge correctly asserted that he has one more year left. The rest is semantics.

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by asinsoin on Oct 20, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

I disagree to a point. I think the fact that he is a Senior and would need to enter a masters program could definitely influence whether he plays a fourth year. Masters programs are much more intense and thus harder to play football and make the grade.

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by MTBroncosFan on Oct 20, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Lol, do you really think that would factor?

No disrespect but if Luck determines that he doesn’t like the team that he would be drafted by i seriously doubt he would even consider how hard a Masters Program would be since he would only be in it 1 year anyway. Think about it…..

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by asinsoin on Oct 20, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Stanford isn't State U.

most graduate programs at Stanford would be very wary of accepting Luck unless he shows a real commitment to the program and a willingness to work just as hard to finish it as anyone else.

They’re not going to just let him sit around in a graduate program so he can finish out his final year of athletic eligibility.

And before you start busting on me about diminishing State Universities, I’m a graduate of a California State school (and darn proud of that too!). I just understand that Stanford is in another class academically, and takes that academic standing VERY seriously.

by DanReynolds on Oct 20, 2011 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

You're confusing graduate programs with doctorate or phd programs Dan.

Masters programs, even at Stanford are more a product of GPA and are not that hard to get into as long as you qualify and can afford them since they’re typically not funded. My daughter just went through the process and had numerous unfunded Masters degree offers (including Stanford), the real challenge was getting into a funded PhD program. I have no issues with your state school comparison since that’s my background as well. Given Luck’s connections I can guarantee you they would gladly accept him and his money even if it was likely only for a year.

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by asinsoin on Oct 20, 2011 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes I really think that it is a factor.

See DanReynolds response.

I do however think he could take more undergraduate credits towards a second bachelor degree, possible turn his minor into a double major situation. That seems more plausible. In my opinion the fact that he is a Senior about to graduate could be a factor. Only he knows how much of a factor if any. At any rate, it probably isn’t worth our time to argue whether Damon meant one thing or the other. Can we just take his word for it and leave it at that.

"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow

by MTBroncosFan on Oct 20, 2011 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed, good points, but way off topic.

"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.

by asinsoin on Oct 20, 2011 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

He doesn't "have to" enter a masters program. He could just take cake classes for a year and focus on football, if he wants.

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by Troy Hufford on Oct 20, 2011 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I made a simple statement that Luck wasnt a Junior but a Senior...

I never asserted that he didnt have any eligibility left… If I did please point to where in the thread i claimed he had no eligibility left. Please read my very clear statement above. McGeorge is wrong Luck is NOT a “redshirt Junior”. I simply corrected the simple mistake of people believing Luck isnt a Senior. He is!!!!

by Damon322 on Oct 20, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Luck was a redshirt sophomore last year. That is why he was eligible for the draft.

He is a redshirt junior this year. He could go back to school if he wanted.

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by Nick Cast on Oct 19, 2011 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Then he says he’s gonna play for the Yankees instead of Baltimore Indy? And they trade us the pick? Deja Vu…

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by Calikula on Oct 19, 2011 8:56 PM MDT reply actions  

my 2 cents

1 off great 4th q by tebow but he missed 10 14 pts out there and to get where we want to be tebow needs to copy steve young let say tebow is our guy we need to hire steve young as our QB Coach or OFF corder out only hope to get luck is STL gets the first pick or MINN MIA shouild get him but i think we need ethier a 1 RB or A 1 WR Decker is a 2 WR we need a guy like blackmon or Jeffey or Greg childs from ark noone is a bigger luck fan than me but we have no shot to get him now

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider

by j-man on Oct 23, 2011 6:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Come on j-man

Sure, he left some points on the field, but it was his fourth start. Give the kid a chance to learn and grow.

After today’s game, there shouldn’t be anyone clamoring for Luck as a Bronco. Not for what Tebow did on the field, but for the fact that he has shown the ability to perform when the game is on the line and not get rattled. Those qualities just can’t be taught, and are the foundation for a successful quarterback.

by DanReynolds on Oct 23, 2011 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

dan

we need playmakers to heip tebow that all i meant because he runs too much and will get hurt yes the game was one of the best things i seen in 5 years i do not mean to sound so neavtive about tebow i guess i will have to audjust what i value in a qb idk about u but my blood pressure was sky high today

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider

by j-man on Oct 23, 2011 7:54 PM MDT reply actions  

ROFL, but high in a good way:)

Wait, is there any scenario where high blood pressure is a good thing?

by DanReynolds on Oct 23, 2011 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

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