FanPost

Elusiveness or Accuracy? (Yes, another way to frame the Tebow/Orton debate)

So hard to even still call this a debate, as the evidence just keeps on mounting up, but I found this interesting anyway.  As I was listening to Phil Simms talk about the Tebow-Orton controversy today, I was sick of hearing the same old nonsense from the announcers about it being a "passing league" and how ultra important it is to be deadly accurate and fit throws into tight windows.  While I do not disagree that teams with great passers dominate the NFL (when has that ever not been the case) I think it is equally important to have a QB that can be elusive in the pocket and/or have scrambling ability.  To me that essentially offsets some of the accuracy demands because the ability to scramble helps to "uncover" your receivers.  I would argue that the ability to extend plays is equally if not more important than accuracy (see Griese, Brian v Plummer, Jake).  As I was watching today's beatdown and thinking about how immobile Kyle is (probably second only to Peyton Manning and that's probably the only time we could ever say that) I couldn't help but think that at worst, Tebow's valuable skill set is at least equal to that of Ortons (scrambling vs. accuracy) and the passion and heart of Tebow puts him over the top.  At the end of the day with exceptions like Manning and Brady (who are master technicians in the pocket) its usually the QBs that can master both who can truly dominate, and it was pretty evident today that was what makes Aaron Rodgers so amazing today.  Even if you think about it over history, it led me to wonder about the breakdown of hall of fame type QBs who were great with their legs more so then super accurate...by no means an exhaustive list but on the accuracy side you have guys like Aikman, Marino, Montana, Manning and Brady, and on the other guys like Steve Young, our own Elway, Tarkenton, Staubach and others.  I've attached a copy of all of the Hall of Fame QBs for ppl to debate but seems pretty even to me.

Modern Era: Quarterbacks (23) Troy Aikman 1989-2000 George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 Len Dawson 1957-1975 John Elway 1983-1998 Dan Fouts 1973-1987 Otto Graham 1946-1955 Bob Griese 1967-1980 Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 Bobby Layne 1948-1962 Dan Marino 1983-1999 Joe Montana 1979-1994 Warren Moon 1984-2000 Joe Namath 1965-1977 Bart Starr 1956-1971 Roger Staubach 1969-1979 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960 Bob Waterfield 1945-1952

Steve Young 1985-1999

What is the point of all of this?  Just surprising to me that Elway feels like you have to win it from the pocket, he never did and wasn't close to the most accurate QB of his day (#88 - see link below)  If you're reading this Elway (which I know you're not) sorry John, always LOVED you as a player...I think you're trying not to get in Fox's way so I get it on the Tebow decision but something has to give sooner or later).

 

What say you Broncos fans?  

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

X
Log In Sign Up

forgot?
Log In Sign Up

Forgot password?

We'll email you a reset link.

If you signed up using a 3rd party account like Facebook or Twitter, please login with it instead.

Forgot password?

Try another email?

Almost done,

Join Mile High Report

You must be a member of Mile High Report to participate.

We have our own Community Guidelines at Mile High Report. You should read them.

Join Mile High Report

You must be a member of Mile High Report to participate.

We have our own Community Guidelines at Mile High Report. You should read them.

Spinner

Authenticating

Great!

Choose an available username to complete sign up.

In order to provide our users with a better overall experience, we ask for more information from Facebook when using it to login so that we can learn more about our audience and provide you with the best possible experience. We do not store specific user data and the sharing of it is not required to login with Facebook.

tracking_pixel_9341_tracker