What Do We Expect From Tim Tebow On Sunday?
by Colby on Oct 20, 2011 8:20 PM MDT
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On Sunday we could witness the start of a new era in Denver. Tim Tebow will make his first start of the season for the Denver Broncos and his fourth start of his young career. The expectations for Tebow are quite strange. The college success makes a lot of people thinking he should do great things and hoping he becomes the next great quarterback in the NFL. Lots of others expectations are very low because of the style he plays.
Tim Tebow is going to get an 11 game audition. I think the fate of Tim Tebow as a Denver Bronco will be decided in those games. Think about it.
Tim Tebow when he is not a starter is a distraction. You cannot deny that. It is hard for him to be the leader that he is when he is not on the field. The past season and a half, every time Kyle Orton played poor, people called for Tim Tebow. Most quarterbacks do not get that treatment but when you have the name Tim Tebow on your roster it will happen. Every week this season, we heard about new ways fans were trying to get Tim Tebow to play. If Tim Tebow wins say two of his eleven starts, the Broncos will draft a quarterback. Brady Quinn and Kyle Orton are both free agents. If the Broncos draft a quarterback, Tim Tebow will have to leave. It is too much of a distraction to have Florida Gator fans and uneducated football fans calling for Tim Tebow every time the new starter performs poor. Agree or not?
Remember how nice it was when we all loved Cutler and every week, we knew who our quarterback was going to be? If the starter for Denver is not Tim Tebow next year, he will have to leave because we cannot continue to have our starter questioned. I think 11 games is enough for Tebow to prove we won't take Andrew Luck or enough to show that we don't have a choice.
Now, instead of looking at next year, lets see what Tim Tebow has to do to stay the quarterback. I think that stats are not going to mean a lot for Tim Tebow. We have seen in the four starts that Tebow is not a conventional cookie cutter quarterback that the league seems to want. Tebow is not a quarterback, he is a playmaker at the quarterback position. That is not a bash at him either. Tebow is not afraid to make plays. There will be some games under Tim that are ugly. But there will be some really exciting times. Tim Tebow is going to have to show that he does not turn the ball over. He has done a good job in his 3 and a half games so far.
I picture two different Tim Tebow scenarios of what will happen this season.
1) Tim Tebow will shine. Tim Tebow will find a way to win about 5 or 6 games at maximum for the Broncos We will see Tim Tebow play a lot like in college. He will have designed runs and will check one or two receivers on plays. We will see a lot of missed sacks. But he will will the Broncos to wins. We have seen Tebow have slow starts but as he adjusts to the offense and learns it, the starts will get faster. He will continue to will the Broncos to comebacks and create excitement. Tim will learn to adjust his game and continue to play the way he does. If Michael Vick can continue to run, than why can't Tim Tebow? Tim will throw for about 20 touchdowns and rush for 8 or 9.
2) Tebow will only win about 2 games. He will miss a couple starts because of injury. We will see what the experts were talking about and where Tim Tebow will struggle is adjusting to teams who have adjusted to him. He will struggle throwing across the middle when he has to and teams will take the sidelines away because it is his favorite area. He will throw for 10 touchdowns and still rush for 7 or 8. The team will be forced to find a trading partner for Tim Tebow because they are going in another direction.
It seems really extreme but what will actually happen will be somewhere in between there. We need to be realistic though. We need a quarterback that can win games. We will find that out. This team is become very healthy and there will not be any excuses. He can still run the ball, but has to learn to run situational football when called for and if he can prove he has learnt these things, ladies and gentleman Tim Tebow will be the Denver Broncos starter for the future because he will take us so far out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, we will not have to worry about it. If he gives the Broncos the opportunity to consider another quarterback, than his career with this team will be over because we have to move on and cannot have the distraction of him as a backup. Having him a starter is damn exciting though is it not? I have not been this amped up for a game between two teams with one combined win in my life.
I want Tim Tebow to succeed and exceed my expectations and I expect him this Sunday to have a good game. If we cannot defeat the Dolphins, I worry for this team who we will actually be able to beat. Tebow can do this as long as he can find a way to beat the pass rush from Miami because trust me, it will be coming like any team would to a rookie quarterback.
The Broncos will win this Sunday. How could they not when Miami is honoring our quarterback with Florida day?
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I think the reason Tebow hasnt thrown many interceptions
Is because if he doesnt have a throw, he runs it.
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:26 PM MDT reply actions
which is better than the alternatives…
Throw it away – no gain
Take a sack – loss of yards
Throw a pick – turnover
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I would say his style of play lends itself very well to Fox's system.
Run the ball, dont turn it over, and control the clock.
I would also say his style leads to less INT, although Cam Newton is doing his damnedest to prove otherwise.
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I would say that it leads to more fumbles if he runs..
BUT, Tebow tucks pretty well and is like a RB with good ball protection. So yea, agree!
..We're 1-15 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
No evidence that fumbling has ever been a problem for TT
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Actually, this was a charge that had been leveled against "No. 7" early in his career, also.
I don’t know how many times that I heard game announcers criticize Elway for forcing the ball through a tiny window between defenders, and I don’t know how many times that I heard the game announcer’s partner (who generally had some NFL play experience) then having to patiently explain to the listening audience that this would typically change as the NFL QB matures in his game and gains experience.
As to the hero mentality (could be called a winner’s mindset by some, I would imagine), younger QBs are known to take risks, and that’s a given even among the young in general. However, young QBs with “The It Factor” and “All of the Intangibles” see themselves as winners, visualize the win, and practically impose their will to win, and so these, naturally, take even the bigger risks. And, furthermore, this is what any NFL fan should want in his team’s starting quarterback, anyway, I would think. This exceptional trait is shared by many a special NFL quarterback, and I would submit that this is a trait of Tebow, too, based solely upon the state high school championship at Nease and the national college championship at Florida, alone.
Excellent post 9798, fully agree.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions
That's what Merlin Olsen always said
during games he served as color analyst, of course, Dick Enberg was smarter than NFL play-by-play men we see today, Marv Albert anyone?
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Oct 21, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
I could be because he has game and sees where not to throw it.
Don’t ya think?
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, and Davis.....
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
duh...
If he doesn’t have a throw (he doesn’t seem a good throw, or knows not to throw a bad ball) he runs it.
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 9:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Can not that be a good thing?
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, and Davis.....
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Since when did it become "bad" for a QB to run with the ball if
his receivers are not open. Perhaps if you are Craig Morton, Dan Marino or Kyle Orton it’s a bad idea but if you are a really good running QB like TT then the run is a viable and valuable option. I think the real question re: running is does he know “when” to run? Still need to be pass first, go through all your options, but then pick up positive yds w/ your legs and do so in a way that you minimize potential injury to yourself. I hate it when the “professional commentators” talk about QBs not running because they should not expose themselves to injury! Ridiculous! I have seen many more QBs get injured because they “cannot” run or move and their only option is to get noodle-slobbered in the pocket! While TT is not the most polished passer (yet), he has the gift of football savvy and this is what will carry the day for him. We just need to have some patience, I am convinced, if we are, we will be greatly rewarded.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Also interceptions are random
skip down to the section titled “regression way past the mean” at this link. Ultimately guys with way below average interception rates will throw interceptions.
i keep dancing on my own.
The Beauty of It All
Is that this will all play itself out on the field.
11 weeks from now, we will all know how it turned out.
I hope for the best, but we will see what we get.
Definitely agree that Tebow either needs to be The Man or he needs to go.
I can see Russia from my house.
yup yup, cant have that sort of distraction
If he doesnt win enough, then hopefully we can at least get some value out of him.
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Alaskan, I'm cannot agree more with you! I am TT's biggest supporter but I too
am weary of all the talk and speculation. I simply want to see him play now and let that be the determining factor. If the grading process on him is correct, then the standard will not be in the stats but the W-L column. I went back and looked at John Elways QB rating and it was always average at best, improving with age (and a better system, and with TD) but never high as the upper echelon of QBs. If W-Ls are the measure for TT I feel we are going to be alright in the long run.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm expecting the same that I did from Orton.
Except with the added ability of being able to run when things break down and not take a sack, to extend plays in general with his feet. To sell screen passes better (which Orton was miserable at) and bring an enthusiasm to the team because they, like us, will have some hope, like we haven’t had for a long time with Orton.
Overall I would guess a stat line like 16/24, 200 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. 10 rushes for 50 yards and a TD.
Basically I am expecting Orton with legs and leadership.
I am a fan of a team in the NBA, MLB, NHL, and NFL. I haven't seen the playoffs since April 28th, 2008 (1st round exit by raps). I haven't seen playoffs past the 1st round since January 26th, 2006. Stop and think about how insane it is. And depressing.
that'd be nice.
But not necessary, at least not for me at this point of the season.
We won’t be in the suck4luck campaign but that doesn’t mean we won’t take a QB in the next draft. The FO has shown that they aren’t in love with any QB on the roster at this point. They only play Tebow because Orton was so awful it would have been inexcusable to keep him in there. Let’s say we go 4-12, which would put us out of the suck4luck campaign but still in the top 5 picks. Do we take a Landry Jones or Matt Barkley as our next QB? That is what will be to Tebow over the next 11 weeks. He has to show that he can be the QB of this team for the future beyond a shadow of a doubt. So all I need his for him to answer that question one way or the other.
I am a fan of a team in the NBA, MLB, NHL, and NFL. I haven't seen the playoffs since April 28th, 2008 (1st round exit by raps). I haven't seen playoffs past the 1st round since January 26th, 2006. Stop and think about how insane it is. And depressing.
And passion
and excitement
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Eddie.Teach... one of the best aspects of his game is his ability
to set up the screen. He executes this amazingly well. I would love to go back and see a compilation of all the screen passes he’s thrown see how they graded out because from my general observations, they always seemed to work and it seems that TT set them up well and knew exactly when and where to release the ball. Plus, they always seemed to be accurate. I think this has to do with the fact that to make a screen really work the QB cannot tip his hand too early and allow the time for everyone to set up. This is hard if the QB does not have 2 things: (1.) Great football instincts (savvy) and, (2.) Nerves of steel, willing to stare down DL that have been basically turned loose on you, and yet not panic.
Oddly enough when I see him execute those so well it tells me that he will be handle the other stuff eventually really well also.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions
My prediction is simple
and I’ve said it a billion times here but I’ll say it again.
I think Tebow’s gonna show enough that he could be our future franchise guy and EFX will stick with him as the starter next year but I don’t think he’s gonna show enough that EFX will put all their chips in on him. Come week 1 next year I think Tebow will be our starting QB but we’ll have a QB who was drafted in the 3rd or 4th round on the team as insurance just in case.
And now for something completely different
I'd say this is the safe way to bet on it
Plus we’ll bring in a veteran second-stringer to be ready just in case Tebow goes down and the rookie is no where ready to take over.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Oct 20, 2011 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:52 PM MDT reply actions
ugh… why the pic fail?
I wanna be one of the cool kids that post witty photos….
Someone help…
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
NM
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions
This is what we expect from Tebow
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 20, 2011 8:56 PM MDT reply actions
and unfortunately, that is what UF/Tebow fans think of him as.
..We're 1-15 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
Perhaps Teboner, but his appeal is not so much the "Jesus" connection (I'm a Christian)
but just simply the the “real” connection. He is walking the talk. I think if he were a Hindu and was honest and faithful to his faith there would be great respect for him and a desire to see him succeed. As Americans we get so tired of the over-hyped athlete who always seem to fall from the pedestal we/they have placed them on. Think Kirby Puckett, or more recently, Tiger. TT has had scrutiny since his high school years and has not let us down. We want to pull for guys/gals like that because it represents ideals that we all would like to aspire to (honesty, integrity, consistency, etc). We want to see people like this succeed, it’s good for all of us.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
That's true
Ruben, as a Christian myself, Tebow is a person of integrity even if he were pagan, he does what he said he would and gives it all that he has GO BRONCOS!!!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Oct 21, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
not a serious post
By the way, The Hurricane was pretty BA. plus he had a really catchy song made about him
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 21, 2011 11:12 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't see scenario #2 happening.
I see more either Number One, or something between One and Two. I’m not into polar extremes. I’m also not into predictions, but I’m gonna make one anyway.
One way or another, Tebow will be here next year, competing for the starting job, even if we draft a guy.
Tim Tebow Built My Hot Rod.
expect the Dolphin players to take great exception that they are the away team in their own house
not saying it will affect the outcome, but clearly they will have their pride wounded a bit over that
From what the Phinsider says
It’s not an uncommon experience for them. He says 50/50 is pretty much how the crowd is regularly. I remember going to Charger games back in the late 90’s and it was like that.
" I Find Your Lack of Faith Disturbing," Darth Vader.
In My Humble Opinion. ......Elway is going to go for Luck come hell or high water.
The better Tebow plays the higher his trading value will be and Elway is going to get Luck someway somehow . For the higher trade pick Tebow will bring, if he is successful, will give Elway more power to deal. Bank it!!!
If Luck even cones out this year...
He is going first and if you don’t have the first pick, you’re not getting him. No one is going to trade that pick away. People need to quit holding their breath for Luck around here. It ain’t happening.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
by MrFNSunshine on Oct 21, 2011 6:37 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Not to mention what we would have to give up in order to get him would set this team back for years
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
But, as I've said before...if you have a chance to get Luck, you do it.
I love TT and hope he’s our QB for the next 15 seasons but I am convinced (I live in the Bay Area) that Luck is a better prospect than Peyton Manning was, and, has more potential than he did, and is a sure thing. I would give up quite a bit to get him.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm the exact opposite
If we were terrible enough to get the 1st pick (God forbid) I hope we trade that baby away.
with those spoils we could be contenders in 2 years time. if EFX have another draft like they did this year…
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 21, 2011 11:15 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
we won't need luck to win
A great defense is what wins champs, and based on what Tebow does this year, I might feel comfortable enough with the points he can put up.
many ways to win, and luck isn’t even the best one. If he goes down, we would be boned (see 2011 Colts). With a great defense, you are able to overcome injuries better/more quickly because it isn’t just 1 guy. plus, we already have a good base.
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 21, 2011 11:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes if we have the #1 then take it
but if not, its not worth what we will have to give up to move there. I’d rather take Landry or Jones
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Would any other quarterback besides Luck be good enough to start day 1?
That is very rare, and from the philosophy Elway follows, i would highly doubt any rookie but luck gets to start for this team next year.
and since i doubt we have the first pick next draft, we dont get luck.
so we need a qb to start while the rookie develops.
tebow is the only qb under contract.
unles tebow te-blows, i would be pretty surprised if he isnt our starter in 2012.
meeeeow -cats everywhere
by Jay Fin Anderson on Oct 20, 2011 9:20 PM MDT reply actions
Andy Dalton is doing it.
2nd round pick. No offseason. And hes a GINGER!
..We're 1-15 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
OK, I'll bite...what's a "GINGER"?
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Got it. Don't know why I've never heard that expression used
that way. Once again, MHR educates…
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll have a ginger ale to honor Andy Dalton!
the Bengals won the lotto with that kid!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Oct 21, 2011 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Interesting post Colby
You raise the question that will almost certainly dominate MHR for the rest of the year. Is 11 games enough to truly evaluate Tebow and if so what does he have to do to maintain starter status?
Personally I think he deserves more than the remainder of the season for evaluation and am hopeful that the decision points will be made based on progress in key areas and not solely on wins. Yes he needs to minimize turnovers, work on reading defenses, work on mechanics etc.. But as long as he makes steady improvement in those areas and continues to bring his athleticism, competitiveness and leadership he should be given a couple of years to develop.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
He probably does deserve/require more time
And given that Elway said rebuilding is going to take 3 years, there’s plenty of time to get a quaterback after next season and still develop.
We are not going to be bad enough to get Luck.
Julian from Australia
I like the idea of the core of players that we have in place right now
growing together. D.T, Von, Doom, Moore, Royal, Decker, J.Thomas, V.Green, the whole O-Line…I see some really good pieces in place to build around. (I know, I know… I drink the Kool-aid)
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Read my sig
Rules to Follow when Talking and/or Engaging Tim Tebow
Rule 1. Don't @#% with Tebow
Rule 2. Re-read Rule 1
Rule 3. Memorize these 3 Rules
by Zac Man on Oct 20, 2011 9:25 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
We need a like button up in here
..We're 1-15 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
...its called the rec button.
I knew that
..We're 1-15 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
ive had my sig for two years. who do u think it’s referring to?
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Reeves and Elway? Chris Nolan and Heath Ledger? Brian Wilson's beard?
Rules to Follow when Talking and/or Engaging Tim Tebow
Rule 1. Don't @#% with Tebow
Rule 2. Re-read Rule 1
Rule 3. Memorize these 3 Rules
My prediction is
Tebow will bobble four snaps from center, complete 14 passes to include two for TDs, and throw an interception. He will run with the ball seven times (not counting broken plays where he just takes off running) scoring one running touchdown, and hand the ball off 19 times, once for a TD. The defense will score two TDs on turnovers, and the Broncos will lose by two points because they’re playing in Miami. Just kidding!
My Tebow prediction
He has a monster game with 300 plus yards passing with 2 passing TD’s and around 75 rushing yards with at least 1 rushing TD.
I’m predicting a huge win of around 34 to 16.
I’m also predicting Bronco fans will then hail Tebow our savior even though Miami is the worst team in the league.
Go Broncos!
"Vegetarians are cool. All I eat are vegetarians - except for the occasional mountain lion steak "
Ted Nugent
setting the stage for him to run for Gov of Colo and eventually he's in the
White House sitting in the Oval Office…it’s all making sense to me now.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
i wpuld vote for him.
The only honest politician that ever was.
But Tebow will work for his faith after he is done playing, mark it down.
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 21, 2011 11:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i expect a win
i’m a bottom-line type, just get me a bunch of w’s and make this season interesting, at least. think tebow has given up on the playoffs, yet? no.
i also expect miscommunication in the passing game due to the trade of lloyd and the return of 3 targets, combined with the limited time between tebow and the starting wr’s…
regardless, this is going to be nuts with all the hoopla, and i cannot wait. i believe tim will show plenty this season to force efx to build around him(imagine that). we have other needs.
taste my blintzkrieg!
the 3-man rush is an admission of lunacy, cowardice, and defeat-please stop.
My guess is that someone with TT's drive,
he comes in with the idea that he’s going to lead the team to the playoffs…this year. That’s what I like about him. I don’t think he’s going to ever give up on anything.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Oct 21, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Better yet, what does Tim Tebow expect from Tim Tebow??
Having watched this guy for four years in college, and the times he has played in the pros, Tim expects 125% from Tim. This guy will keep fighting until the last second to win. And better yet, he’ll expect everyone else on the team to do the same. This guy is a leader. He may not be Mr. Perfect on his passing technique, but the guy knows how to play football.
by Mark Roy-Brooks on Oct 20, 2011 10:37 PM MDT reply actions
I think Tebow shows the Broncos enough
To give him the keys to the franchise in 2012. If Denver drafts any QB early, Tebow would definitely be out of town. There undoubtedly will be a huge amount of pressure on Tebow to shine in this small 11 game window from the media and fans. What I find interesting is how the media gives no credence to Tim’s college accomplishments because “this is the NFL”, but then they break down his play as if he should be an elite QB after 3 starts in the NFL.
by knoepke84 on Oct 20, 2011 10:40 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Tim Tebow = Excitement
Finally it’s worth watching a Denver Bronco’s game again. It’s been a while were we have a QB with an attitude of winning. Tim will bring excitement and worth watching for.
Go Tim !! Go Denver Broncos !!
This game might break the curse...
We’ve all heard of the Madden curse, but ever since Shanahan benched a 7-4 Plummer for rookie future-whiner Cuntler, we’ve had nothing but strokes of bad luck: Darrent Williams shot dead right after the season crashed and burned…Shanahan’s defenses sucking, McDaniels EGO (I supported him at first before I realized just how not ready and immature he was)…getting rid of Pro-Bowl players and Hillis…about 6-7 injuries at the RB position in one season… a revolving door at the Defensive Coordinator spot every year (ugh!), Kyle Orton collapsing in the clutch, the list goes on….could we descend any lower?
In comes Tebow and everyone’s excited again. We can’t wait to watch our 1-4 team beat the tar out of their 0-5 team. Tebow is having his homecoming with the Dolphin’s honoring his championship…it couldn’t be more picture perfect. I hope this SUnday marks the end of the curse of bad luck that has sunk our beloved team to such a low after their rise to greatness…
But here it really is, the cold hard truth. If Tebow loses this game in any way shape or form, the usual cast of experts will be calling for his head and it will be a long season…who can get passed losing to one of the worst teams in the league with your future star Qb given a full head of steam…but if Tebow rocks..and we beat em by a huge margin, then it’s on! We could still make the playoffs if that becomes the new tempo, the new rally behind an inspiring leader…. Wouldn’t that be grand! The Raiders will probably smoke the chiefs so we’ll be tied for third in our division and moving on up!
This could be the turning point we’ve all be waiting for! Go Broncos! Maybe it takes a Jesus freak to really break the curse over our weary horses!
We don't have to blow them out
there’s no BC$ in the NFL, thank goodness, but I agree, let’s have a decisive victory, 27-17 would be perfectly fine as far as I’m concerned. GO BRONCOS!!!
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by the new Bradfather on Oct 21, 2011 12:33 AM MDT up reply actions
We dont have to, but I think it will happen anyway.
Miami’s offense right now? ECK..
..We're 1-15 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
The whole idea of this "curse" is crazy
Like Orton, Plummer was benched because he was playing really bad. The team was winning inspite of Plummer, not because of him. That 2006 team didn’t give up a TD for like the first 5 games…. the wins were 100% DEF, as the offense was averaging like 15 points/game.
Of course, then Al Wilson got hurt, the DEF imploded (they gave up a lot of yards all year, but some lucky RZ stops early evened out late), and the team lost a bunch of games down the stretch. But the offense was, by basically every measure (yards, points, TOP), playing better under Cutler than they were under Plummer.
People need to give up on the whole “benching Plummer was a bad move” thing… it just doesn’t hold up unless you think Plummer starting somehow provided RZ DEF stops or kept Al healthy… in which case, sure… go on believing in a “curse”. A have a bag of magic beans you might interested in buying too…
Anyone remember that game – was it in the play offs? – when the Patriots did something like throw 50 consecutive times? I’d love it if all Tebow did for the first game was hand off to McGahee and Moreno.
The two scenarios cover most things. The worst outcome of the next 11 games is if it falls inbetween the two. That said, I don’t think it will matter what Tebow does – unless we’ve got the 31st or 32nd pick – Elway is going to try and get Luck
home game
this will turn into a home game for the broncos, most in florida like tebow. i wouldn’t be surprised to see more bronco jerseys in the standsd then miamisss.
Can TT actually win on Sunday no matter what happens on the field?
If we lose -meep
If we win – not an accomplishment to win against an 0-5 team with TT-homefield advantage
If he plays bad – all hell will break loose
If he plays so so – everybody will feel that they were right all along
If he plays exceptionally good – again, that means nothing against Miami
So, I’m just wondering: Should we just forget about TT on sunday (and save that for later) and rather focus on rooting for a Broncos win?
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About your last point, "forget about TT ... and rather focus on rooting for a Broncos win".
People should be rooting for a Bronco win regardless of who the starting quarterback is, if they’re true Bronco fans. I still think there are a lot of quasi Bronco fans on these fan sites who are actually Gator fans turned Tebow-as-the-Bronco’s-quarterback fans, but who don’t really care so much about the Broncos as a team. (Not saying you, or anyone in particular, fit that category, by the way.)
That said, GO TEBOW! GO BRONCOS! I’m anxious to see Thomas, Decker, and Royal as the receiving team, and I’m expecting a blowout win against the hapless Dolphins. But it will take a WHOLE-TEAM effort. This could be the most exciting Bronco game of the past five years.
by CompUser on Oct 21, 2011 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I expect:
50% completion rate, 1 TD, 1 INT, 2 sacks, 200 or so yards passing 40 yds rushing.
The Dolphins are so bad on offense that field position should be excellent, so I’d guess there’s an extra red zone chance that will lead to a rushing TD.
A good warm-up win against a terrible team, leading into an actual test the following week.
Nolan will try to design an all blitzing D on Sunday
Remember the blitzing D that Nolan had for Denver in 09. I think he will really put all out run type blitz’s in his game plan….Hopefully our game plan includes lots of tight end throws and screens…with a few long balls thrown in. They will try to confuse Tebow with a lot of motion.
Wins require more than one person....
To expect a bunch of wins simply because Tim is starting, is unfair to say the least. Maybe if we had Pro Bowl quality players at every position that might be possible…..but we don’t. It takes a team to win in the NFL.
Over the next 11 games, I want to see a team that’s improving every week. I think this will happen.
W-L record doesn't matter to me.... I just want to see a team on the rise at the end of the year!
GO BRONCOS and GO CARDS!!!
We really do set ourselves up for disappointment
by having unrealistic expectations. Realistically, Tebow will probably struggle quite a bit for the rest of the season. Hopefully, he shows improvement and helps us win a few games. Maybe, just maybe, he is the answer this team needs at QB. If not, we’re drafting a QB with the top ten pick we’re likely to have but it is highly unlikely it will be Luck.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
by MrFNSunshine on Oct 21, 2011 7:40 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe he will be the answer at QB....but
you’re right. It will be ugly at times. Nobody is perfect, so mistakes happen. I just hope fans don’t get down when the media makes great noise over the ugly things, and virtually ignores the good things (which will happen).
It’s gonna be a fun ride!
W-L record doesn't matter to me.... I just want to see a team on the rise at the end of the year!
GO BRONCOS and GO CARDS!!!
Thanks
For entertaining the thought that he may fair poorly. This whole “destined for greatness” thing seems a little premature.
Enjoy the Tebow Kool Aid while you can, fans. This team still has bigger issues than QB.
Sorry this is bunk, QBs get this treatment all the time...
If you are playing poorly as a QB, the fans always want the back up. Hence the football phrase, “The most popular player is the back up QB”. When your team takes a QB in the 1st round and your starter is playing poorly, it intensifies even more. You don’t think Viking fans have been calling for Ponder? And McNabb has not played as poorly as Orton. The only solution is winning. If you are not winning, the team took a QB in the first round and the starter is not playing well, the call for the backup is going to be deafening.
To one of your other points, if Tebow plays poorly over the next 11 games and the Broncos lose, fans will be ready for a change at QB. It might not be what they hope for, but they will support it.
Yes Tebow could be a backup
If he does not perform fans will be okay with him as a backup. I think people are reaching when they talk about Tebow followers or diehards, Tebow has fans because he performed in the past. He did great things in the past. If he plays poorly he will join the long list of college greats who did not make it in the pros. Not many people sit around and pine for them.
by Keyworthpunch on Oct 21, 2011 7:52 AM MDT up reply actions
I disagree on the McNabb not as poorly as Orton
I watched 2 of his games, and he was god awful. He needs to retire.
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Sucking for Luck
That is the way to go. The experts have all given their money back guarantees that Luck will be the next Barry Sanders and that we can take that to the bank…wait a minute…I’m thinking of Reggie Bush. Anyway, Luck is a Lock, I’m sure of it.
by TheMascotArmy on Oct 21, 2011 8:45 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
everyone thought Rick Mirer
was Jesus in cleats too, just saying…
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by the new Bradfather on Oct 21, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
The list of "chosen ones" goes on and on doesn't it?
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
by MrFNSunshine on Oct 22, 2011 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Luck?
I think there was an article today on the Post that said if the draft were held today, the Broncos would be selecting 8-ish???
I seriously doubt the Broncos will be in the Luck sweepstakes… I predict we may win another 4-5 games… which will likely keep them at or near the #8 draft choice. They might be able to trade up for someone like Landry Jones, which is a much more likely scenario.
The Colts or the Rams are probably going to end up with the #1 choice. The Rams are pretty well set with Bradford, but given Manning’s uncertainty, the Colts would be fools to pass up Luck.
Having said all that, I hope Tebow exceeds my expectations and continues to elevate the level of play of all those around him. I hope he plays well enough to firmly establish himself as the Bronco’s franchise quarterback and then we don’t have to consider drafting a quarterback in the first round. Fingers crossed!
By the way, Zac Man, love the signature…
This coaching staff's offensive mentality tempers my expectations of Tebow
I’m afraid they’ll be ultra-conservative, pass only on 3rd downs, have designed Tebow runs on 1st down on our side of the field, and play the entire game “not to lose”.
I hope I’m wrong and McCoy can tailor the plays to Tebows strengths and not force him to be something he is not, but I haven’t seen any signs of such creativity so far from him or Fox.
Like the oakland game from last year.
I hope they are smarter than that.
by TheMascotArmy on Oct 21, 2011 2:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I pick scenario #1...
only better! I just think that Tim has a lot to prove, and that being the case, it will heighten his performance and he will quickly settle into the roll. The fact that he has the drive, and is smart, will equate to picking up his game much more quickly.
With all that said,,,,,,,,,,,I can’t wait for Sunday! I just wish that it was a Nationally Televised game!
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i loved that response of his, when asked about responding to people’s expectations of him. he said that doesnt bother him one bit. he has his own expectations, and that is what he is working towards. the kid wants to be the best qb, best leader, the best player in the nfl. and he believes that he can do it.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
what if the unthinkable happens and the broncos, led by tebow, win the next 11 games?
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
going 9-2 would suffice
10-6 is a solid season and in most instances, gets you in the playoffs
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Oct 21, 2011 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions
I expect about 150 yards passing from Tebow, 11-22, with 65 yds and 1 TD on the ground as the Broncos will end up rushing the ball 45 times for a 26-16 victory. We will learn nothing from this particular game except that the Broncs will be 2-4.
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