Tim Tebow Leads the Broncos to Victory: How Do You Quantify Heart?
by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 5:15 PM MDT
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PrintFor 55 minutes, I sat in boredom and disbelief. Tim Tebow was awful and the Broncos were scoreless. There was a stretch from the 2nd through 3rd quarter where he missed 6 consecutive passing attempts. At the start of the 4th quarter, Tebow had 2 net passing yards. The game was, seemingly, over. There were 5 minutes and 23 second left in the 4th quarter and the Broncos were down 15-0 with the ball at their own 20.
Then, it was Tebow Time. Somehow, the Broncos came away with an 18-15 win.
Can anyone explain to me what happened? Luck? A Tim Tebow Miracle? Mile High Magic in Miami?
It's not often that you come across something you can't quantify or comprehend. As senior engineering student at the University of Louisville, I've been taught a number of methods for quantifying biological processes, creating equations for control systems or modeling mechanical functions. In football, there are a lot of ways that we can measure certain aspects of the game such as 3rd down conversions, rushing yards allowed, turnovers, etc.
But how do you quantify heart? How can you make an equation for a 4th quarter comeback? How do you model putting the team on your back?
I honestly don't know. Certain people have titled it "The Tebow Thing" but nobody knows that the "thing" is. For 3 and 2/3 of a quarter, Tim Tebow was atrocious.Tebow boasted a 39 passer rating. The Broncos offense hadn't scored a single point, in part because of 2 missed Matt Prater field goals (43 and 49 yards).
Tim Tebow was bad. Very bad. Set the running game on the backburner... He missed a wide open Daniel Fells, overthrowing him by about 20 yards, while Kyle Orton could be seen on the sidelines saying "He was (censored) wide open." Tim Tebow nearly threw an interception on his first pass attempt, straight through the hands of Karlos Dansby. He rarely, if ever, threw to his first read during the first three quarters. He lobbed a ball over the head of an open Knowshon Moreno, who ran into the left flat about 10 yards up-field of the launch point. He missed. Everywhere. You name it, he missed it. Somewhere, Merril Hoge was laughing, hysterically.
But then, things changed. Throw the numbers out the window in the final 4 minutes of the game. The Broncos scored 15 unanswered points in the final 2:52 of regulation and scored a field goal to win in overtime. Tebow gets it done, somehow.
If somebody can explain to me how the Broncos offense can be awful for 55 minutes and score 18 unanswered point to win the game? I''ve solved my share of analytical questions, but I'm truly stumped. Tim Tebow seems to evade traditional quarterbacking metrics the same way that he evades would be tacklers.
Must be a "Tebow Thing"...
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Intangibles...cant explain them and cant teach them...you have them or you dont!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Yeah.. I havent heard of any player being able to "see himself win" with practice and years.
But almost every decent athlete improves technique with practice. Im so glad we have Tim on our team. I love it and Im sure he will improve mechanics with time. Confidence cannot be taught.
If Orton was the QB
You guys would of never got the onside kick lol. Tebow’s greatness is every where lol. He is like Shaq with his free throws " dont worry coach ill make them when we need them".
The pass to Fells at the 3 yard line. WOW Perfect throw into triple coverage and the catch was amazing. Im so jealous right now
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
18 - 15.....Look at the scoreboard...clap clap clap clap clap....then how did a guy that sucks SO bad beat ya...good night now!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
You no what's messedup?
Sombody named their kid MerriL…Poor kid.
by CenCalBronco on Oct 23, 2011 5:28 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 7 recs
LMFAO
-Champ Bailey's calendar goes straight from March 31st to April 2nd; no one fools Champ Bailey-
-The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese -
hahahaha
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions
The name has an honorable history.
It’s only bad for him if somebody decides to make fun of it……………………….right?
It is time to choose sides on this bullying thing at all levels of interaction at all levels of society. I have chosen mine.
lmao. make this green people.
..We're 2-14 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..
The Chiefs shut ouut the Raiders at home, muahahahaha.
Great come from behind win for you guys and a good ass whoopin’ for Da Faiders. It’s a great day indeed.
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Yep
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Definitely a good day.
6 INTs from Raiduh’s quarterbacks. The Broncos schedule suddenly looks good. We go against the Lions next week, who have an injured Matthew Stafford. Then we go to Oakland and play the Jason Campbell-less Raiders… The next two weeks look a lot better than it did a week ago.
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 5:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah it does.
A week ago i would’ve said you guys didn’t have a chance.
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Broken hand for McGahee, sprained knee for Ayers, sprained ankle for Doom.
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I didn't know Doom was hurt, ouch.
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Willis said he will be ok. Ayers said the same.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Yeah look at the Chiefs list
I know what you mean, but I wouldn’t have picked the Broncos over the Lions with M.Stafford starting not even with everyone healthy.
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Nice job to your guys Cavey!...wow, Carson looked like a great pick up.....I just threw up in my mouth a bit.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Don't count out Palmer yet
He had like 3 days to practice with the team. I’d love for him to continue playing like he did today, but let’s not count our chickens before they hatch.
by BroncoinOCCali on Oct 23, 2011 9:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Not magic - it was the Dan Reeves effect that or the collective consciousness
When I used to watch Dan Reeves’ Broncos teams play it was the same thing. Pound the ball for 45 minutes and then light ‘er up. I was young then and I didn’t understand why they didn’t just play that way the whole game.
Still, I’ve got to hope they go no huddle or do whatever they need to to get Tim throwing the ball a bit more in the first 3 quarters. 2 passes per quarter isn’t enough.
I’m wondering if Tebow isn’t so closely identified with the archetype of the prodigal son that we’re all simply believing in him to such an extent that we’re manipulating physical reality with the weight of our collective consciousness. If you read Amit Goswami, he says physical reality is a product of consciousness rather than consciousness being a product of the brain. If that is so, then we may very well be manipulating the laws of probability where they concern Tim Tebow.
That’s the only way I can explain a comeback so unlikely… that or I need to go down to the church and convert. ;)
Go Broncos!
by ddtraveller on Oct 23, 2011 5:31 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
But in opportunities where Tebow had the ball in his hands and had to throw, he was bad.
The Dan Reeves style of playcalling was boring, but Tim can’t start out the way he did passing the ball. That can’t happen. If you get a passing play, you have to take advantage. You can’t miss open receivers by a mile. That has nothing to do with playcalling.
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 5:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I think the conservativeness got to Tim too
If you heard his press conf, it looked like he was trying too hard to not make a mistake and overthrowing receivers.. at least thats one of the things he thought he had to improve.
Yeah, it's a lot different when the game is on the line and he just has to make a play.
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah thats what it looked like to me
When it came to a point of an incompletion was not an option he started playing normal. I think that confidence will come in time, espeically if TT knows his job isnt in jeopardy. We shall see.. Im just stoked with the win.
He is uncomfortable, because Fox is not letting him be himself.
Maybe, just maybe Tebow could develop into more of a pocket QB if they would just let him play. Even if Tebow does take off and run, at some point in the game it will open up the passing game, because the opposing defense will have to account for Tebow running.
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by CPT.Caveman on Oct 23, 2011 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
8.1 ypc...but you're right 25% of his yardage came on one play...
his 21 yard run on 3rd and 20…..good stuff
Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
by broncofaninIL on Oct 23, 2011 7:27 PM MDT up reply actions
*sorry 33% of his yardage
Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
by broncofaninIL on Oct 23, 2011 7:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
And he’s got to get the ball out of there quicker. Too many sacks.
i keep dancing on my own.
by atomiccafe on Oct 23, 2011 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
That Decker miss about killed me
That was almost like Orton fumbling while trying to throw to a wide open Fells against the Raiders. The whole point that I wanted to make throughout the game was that without accuracy, its going to be really hard for Tim to improve as a quarterback. The other point is, we were so high on him being the starter and we are high on him after a comeback win, but as a fanbase we need to check ourselves so that we allow the guy some time to improve. I’m not down on him I just want him to succeed because he could be really great and our team could be really great with him as our QB.
Good points Mike....but here is the counter to this....
A lot of the fans REFUSE to see any improvements in him. Not many QB’s could have comeback form 15 with 3 minutes left. in fact, its the first time it has ever been done.
Fox even siad he improved, and will continue to improve, but that seems to be ignored too.
Here are the facts:
- He has led 2 4th Q comebacks in 4 starts for wins. He broke records on both these wins.
- He has played well in all pressure situations.
- He is learning. As Fox mentioned, he made the right 2 point call this week. Last week, he was more aggressive and failed.
I laugh at fans point out “Yeah, but 2 comeback wins against 2 bad defenses”…well, its the NFL….all the defenses are good, all the guys can make plays…some are better than others.
There are WAY more positives than negatives with his play…yet people will harp on only what they can see, as they dont have the knowledge to recognize what they cant see.
This team plays for Tebow, he and the team believe. When guys like Bailey and Dawk react to a kid in his 4th start like that…well, that speaks volumes compared to all us arm chair critics.
Not at you mate, just generally……he has things to improve, but man, there is a whole lot to be impressed, and excited about…including some of his throws in the 4th quarter.
GO BRONCOS!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
That pass to D.Thomas that was 10 yards to the left at the sideline
was not a bad pass in my opinion. i know it was no where near the WR, but a vet WR like Lloyd would of reconized it sooner and drifted to the sideline to make the play
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
Yep...they panned to Thomas on side line who, from his reaction, ran the wrong route.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Yes, I thought that also
typically the route leads away from the defender, who was on the inside. DT seemed to have started that direction then redirected to nearly a seam route, which is not a typical route for a wideout.
Sorry dude! I meant to rec you and pushed the wrong button
Great post! Quantum Tebow. Way cool.
First they ignore you.
They then laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then, you win.
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by Santa Fe Bronc on Oct 23, 2011 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions
He will be seeing those Blitzes in his sleep for the next few nights.
by CenCalBronco on Oct 23, 2011 5:44 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Where were the screen passes to stop the blitzes?
I know screens are basic and dont work all the time but with the attention Tebow gets the screen pass will keep a Defense honest
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
I thought the Dolphins sniffed out most of the screens
and flairs pretty well though, so maybe it was just not working great.
i keep dancing on my own.
Yea atom it looked like the Dolphins D was definitely ready for the screens
Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
by broncofaninIL on Oct 23, 2011 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions
i guess so
our defense is good, just not in the 4th
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
Nolan absolutely owned McCoy today!
Only after McCoy was forced to let go of the reins and let Tebow play did anything happen!
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
Noticed this as well
once the 2 minute offense came in, and TT did his thing, he was just fine. McCoy needs to open up that damn playbook, the preseason playbook had more imagination than that. On the other hand, Tebow had some atrocious misses, the one to decker and the one to fells come to mind. I think once he gets in sync with his receivers these throws will come. Just hope theyre ready for next week! I’ll be there!!!
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Yep
He admitted in his presser that he was trying not to make mistakes and then just missed some throws badly. Lucky guy, that Detroit game should be a good one!
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
As I thought
he seemed nervous and off, like he was really trying not to turn the ball over. Ironically this reminds me of Orton
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Hmmm, could this be a coaching pattern?
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
maybe just each QB putting too much on themselves
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
it was miami, let see what happens when we play a better team.
a win is a win, we just need to play some offense the first 57 minutes.
live and die blue and orange
I'm not to concerned for Tebow's accuracy.
I think it one of those things where he is just so focused on things about his motion, reads, pressure, not screwing up, that he forgets to throw an accurate ball.
Let’s not forget that he threw at a 60+% clip in college. I know its against lesser competition, but you dont do that unless you can be semi accurate.
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 5:46 PM MDT reply actions
First Broncos win on the road against Miami. Ever.
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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Tough to go east and win in Florida, and at Giants for Denver. Huge to win in Miami.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
And the Broncos 1st road win anywhere in 9 games
Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
by broncofaninIL on Oct 23, 2011 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions
As Champ said:
“First win in Miami ever and only took Tebow to do it.”
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Champ said that?
Do you have a link or something, so that I could see/hear that? I was curious about what some of the players had to say about today…Thanks :)
It's in the DP article "what the Players are saying"
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
I watched this kid play four years at florida. I am one of his biggest believers, but even I must admit he wont get opportunities and wont be successful playing the way he did today. he must improve.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
by chaucer on Oct 23, 2011 5:47 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
He will
he does the things you can teach, and struggles with the things that require coaching, reps, and experience. He has the tools, he just needs significant development over the next 10 weeks
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions
This is the question
most QBs get at least some coaching and demonstrate some improvement on those “teachables” in college. If they are unable to learn how to read a defense, they don’t get drafted.
Tebow intentionally eschewed that instruction in favor of a system that played entirely to his strengths and offered no opportunity to improve his weaknesses. That is why Tebow was such a risky pick, and in my mind one of the reasons he is so controversial.
i keep dancing on my own.
we have seen what excellent reads, accurate passes, and standing tall in the pocket gets us. If Tebow becomes half the “Quarterback” that Orton is, then He will be just fine.
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Not sure why i capitalized “he”
Freudian slip?
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions
The problem is, most QB’s in college get some sort of coaching (read: teaching) when it comes to things that will help at the next level. Tebow, until his senior year, got none. Even then, the only thing worked on was his throwing motion. What you see now, is an improvement from 2006-2008.
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Is tebow the next flutie? Flutie was probably better passer.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
by chaucer on Oct 23, 2011 5:48 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
No he's too tall:P
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and too huge, and too strong, but similar stories
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions
There is magic in the universe...
but it doesn’t live in left-brained linear equations…it lives in the heart and emotion. When you put your heart on the table and you play for each other like this team did today, you evoke a field of enchantment that allows miracles to happen. There’s no way we could have won this game today and yet we did!
I was a physics major in college and I never saw an equation that defined consciousness and the meaning of life. What we witnessed here today was the beginning of the return of magic to our team, and they are bringing it home to Mile High to defeat the struggling Lions next week!
Tebow will improve in time…they need to enter the first quarter as if its the 4th..just let him go out there and light it up and play his way…then we would be unstoppable…and might win a superbowl THIS YEAR…LOL But you’ve gotta know how to speak and perceive the magic in the universe…it has nothing to do with his Christian Faith…it is quite universal…and its high time we restored the magic of our beloved Broncos…It’s going to be a fu season after all.
by Brazenwood on Oct 23, 2011 5:55 PM MDT reply actions 6 recs
Brazenwood, this needs to go green.....I have seen this first hand...and its hard to explain to those that have never been part of it...
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Instead of Fox calling a play that has Tebow running, why not spread the field out with a called pass play.
Then if no one is open tell Tebow to do his thing, it makes no sense to me when they call a run for Tebow if they’re infact trying to help him develop.
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That’s what makes Tebow … Tebow.
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Still in it.
With SD and Oakland losing, we’re only 2 games out. If we had one of two more plays vs. SD, we’d be tied with them, and a half game behind the Raiders. As strange as it seems, we’re still in it. Go Tebow!!
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
I wouldn't say that just yet, but you're heading in the right direction.
Lets talk again after Tebow gets a taste of the Lions defense and go from there. You’re not going to get those on-side kicks every time you need one, and the Lions defense is alot better than the Dolphins.
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Winning against Detroit will be tough, but their D is not a whole lot better than Dolphins. Miami’s defense is pretty good, actually.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Detroit, except for a fluky KC trampling, has been giving up points, to the tune of over 20 pts. given up per game. They’ve lost the last two at home, and the Dolphins d at home is at least as tough a test for the Broncos, as the Lions in Denver, imo.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
You can mitigate the stats in whatever convenient way you like.
But Detroit’s outranked on defense by only three teams. Only one team is worse than Miami on defense; according to DVOA. Even if you want to give Miami a little bit of a boost for being at home and downgrade the Lions a little bit for being on the road, there’s still a disparity that stretches nigh half the league between them.
Every opponent that has played us has respected our defense; you’ll come to respect it too, win or lose.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Detroit has s good defense....another reason why stats never tell the whole story.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
31 st but our Defense is not that bad
out problem is our offense goes 3 and out and our defense is on the field way to long. We have a good D just not by the numbers
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
in fairness
That’s pretty badly skewed by Tom Brady being Tom Brady.
Heart is the answer...Tebow will never give up...no matter what.
I really think, but doubt we will see it under McCoy and Fox, that Tebow should go hurry-up offense the entire game. It may not work at first but it will teach him to see a repeat of the defense and thus what to look for. Not only that, in hurry-up, Tim seems to forget he’s not an NFL caliber QB and go straight to instinct.
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Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, and Davis.....
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
How do I quantify heart?
Answer = Tebow.
This is just something you can’t explain other than saying, that’s Tebow. I said the same thing with other Broncos fans I was watching the game with. I mean were totally excited about the comeback with yet were just wondering where was this team a couple of quarters ago. I guess it’s just the belief that Tebow has and it rubs off to the rest of the team.
Never give up. Boy is the crowd going to be amped up for that Lions game.
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Heart is good
But the prevent defense prevented yet another win, and the odds are we won’t convert another on sides kick this season. Also there’s a good reason the Fins are 0-5. They actually suck worse than us, although Moore actually had a better rating than Tebow in the end.
Enjoy the Tebow Kool Aid while you can, fans. This team still has bigger issues than QB.
Nice McG!! lol
Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
by broncofaninIL on Oct 23, 2011 7:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep....more excuses...keep running with them AZ
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Easy to explain
Poor game planning. Shoving square peg into round hole. Predictable play calling. No designed roll outs.
Then when the coaches had given up, they said do what you want Tim. That’s how I saw it. You could almost see the look of disappointment of Fox’s face at the press conference. Well Fox, kick your offensive coachs’ butts for not doing their job. Tebow wasn’t awful so much as the game plan wasn’t tailored to his strengths and was overly conservative. You expect rookie QB’s not to know the whole playbook, but don’t be so damned predictable with the play calling. This game plan looked a lot like every game plan they had for Orton when he was in there. Run until you have to pass, which allows the other team to tee up their blitz packages. It was the worst offensive coaching I’ve seen since — the last Bronco’s game.
by stevendbt on Oct 23, 2011 6:18 PM MDT reply actions 6 recs
Spot on mate!!
McCoy may well have called one of the most ineffective and predictable game plans I’ve seen since the Dan Reeves era! We’re not even close to being good enough to be that predictable.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
need more screens to stop packing the middle
if defenses and going to keep a LB spying Tebow then you have to exploit that. It seemed like they wanted him to do bad but with the hurry up and Tebow calling audibles the game was at last in Tebow’s hands
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
McCoy could not coach a dog to shit based on today.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Tebow Now has 15 TD's and 3 int for his short career crazy he ever figures it out between the 20's LOOK OUT
" He conquers who endures."
by bloodwell on Oct 23, 2011 6:20 PM MDT reply actions 4 recs
Wow
I didn’t even realize that. That’s remarkable.
This is why I’m willing to be patient with him. There’s SO many things he’s got going for him that you just can’t teach. The things he struggles on the other hand are all teachable things. Maybe he never will get it, but it’s insane to write him off this early.
Yep like to see him take what the defense gives him,short passes check downs then hit the deep stuff.
" He conquers who endures."
He will get into a better rhythm early in games..seems like run up the middle run up the middle..throw deep.
he started hitting the small stuff then the long stuff came in rhythm
" He conquers who endures."
It’s a win.
DT was pathetic, Moreno was poor, Franklin was the player I thought we drafted, Royal was his usual invisible self. Prater was the worst player on the field.
Was Tebow terrible? Yes, his play was just as bad as DTs or Franklin’s. We are a young team with a new QB, new #1 WR, new RT and no RBs beyond McGahee. We are not a playoff team.
But Tim will get better. McCoy will call better plays that work for Tim.
Hopefully McCoy realized Tebow is very effective out of the no huddle. We should run that at least once every 1st, 2nd and 3rd quarter of our remaining games. Tebow plays better at his pace than the Fox ball that moves like a snail.
So... At least that's over.
DT's 1st game back with a new systvm and new QB? Far from pathetic.
Prater missed two kicks and made a very long very high pressure kick for the win… worst player on the field?
McG you are the same every week.
Drama queen.
agreed on Fox/McCoy
He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which.
Douglas Adams
by Whidbey Bronco on Oct 23, 2011 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions
DT was really bad until late in the 4th quarter. Prater’s two missed FGs were close to inexcusable (esp the 2nd one).
People are glad to throw Tebow under the bus for some bad plays, but that should go for the teammates that played the same way.
Even when Orton was playing as poorly as he did in 2011, I never failed to call out the bad games by his teammates. I’ll continue to do so with Tebow as the QB.
I was there!
Don't Start the Next Blame Game
I didn’t see a big problem with McCoy’s play calling. Receivers were wide open all over the field and Tebow was missing them by 10+ yards. That’s on Tebow not McCoy. If Tebow can play like he did in the last 5 minutes every quarter he’ll be fine. Let’s please not start more blame games accusing others for Tebow’s faults.
It's not about blame it's about reality.
And the reality in the NFL is that if a team can predict what play you’re going to run it’s highly likely that they will stop it. Run, run, pass doesn’t work because by the time you get to pass the defense is dictating terms to the offense instead of the other way around. Yep, he missed some passes and he threw some away instead of taking chances, he admitted as much, but, the play calling was quite bad.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
by asinsoin on Oct 23, 2011 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
For a recent example, see the Niners last year vs this year.
Mostly the same team, but good coaching and game plans that exploit the opponent’s weaknesses. And that is after a shortened offseason. When the D does not know what is coming, it is much harder to stop it consistently.
by Da Bum on Oct 23, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not about blame it's about reality.
And the reality in the NFL is that if a team can predict what play you’re going to run it’s highly likely that they will stop it. Run, run, pass doesn’t work because by the time you get to pass the defense is dictating terms to the offense instead of the other way around. Yep, he missed some passes and he threw some away instead of taking chances, he admitted as much, but, the play calling was quite bad.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
Sorry, not sure how the double post happened.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
There were certainly bad plays by Tim
But there were plenty of dumbed down plays that had just a couple of receivers in the pattern on 3rd and long. When we started hitting the plays was when we had multiple receivers crossing the field.
by Da Bum on Oct 23, 2011 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
hard to get any rhythm going when the QB is passing 2 times per quarter
The play-calling has been bad almost every game this year. Tebow certainly missed a couple of open guys and threw some bad balls, but he didn’t get many opportunities either. He will never get it going early if they take the ball out of his hands.
Drinkin the kool-aid, smokin the Orange Kush
by boanst on Oct 23, 2011 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
A win is win!
I didn’t get to see the game, but I was listening to the radio. I never lost hope, because I knew that when we were almost out of time, something magical would happen and it did.
That’s what Tebow brings. Start tallying up the 4th quarter comebacks. Remind you of anyone?.
It’s clear that Tim needs to play HIS game to be successful.
Go Broncos!
I've been bleedin' orange and blue since Floyd Little in '71-'72 and will 'til the day I die!
Bring back the Orange Crush!
RANDY GRADISHAR in the HOF!!!!
I very much think Luck happened...
Miami started realizing, “Oh crap, if we win this, the Broncos will have an advantage over us in the draft!”
I wish I could see the play calling, because it really sounds like Fox is too conservative and set in his ways regarding Tebow. It also sounds like he may be intentionally smashing the octagonal peg that is Tebow into a square hole, just so that he can blame this year’s record on McDaniels, next year’s record on setting up his system, and not be expected to win until 2013.
I’m pretty sure the backup WR who fumbled the onside kick cares more about his job than some college QB.
i keep dancing on my own.
by atomiccafe on Oct 23, 2011 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unless he was told his job would be secure if he fumbled...
/conspiracy 101
by Tezcatlipoca on Oct 23, 2011 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Ha!
Funny. There’s no way you mess up a 15 point lead with less than 3 minutes to go, even if you’re TRYING. Did you see the plays that had to be made in order for this to come to pass? Miami wasn’t trying to give this game away at the end. The Broncos TOOK it.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by go4broncos on Oct 23, 2011 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
And I guess Sporano getting the ass this week will be part of the grand plan too.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
That had to be a scary play for Moore the miami wr
Jumping high in the air for an onsides kick knowing every one is coming to hit you like you stole from their momma
LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
Joel Anthony is the man
Henne please don't be good be Great
Fox
Fox is coaching the way he has always coached, conservative, no turnover offense with physical defense. I think it is the best situation for Tebow to develop. Maybe as Tebow gets better he can change Fox’s coaching.
Don't disagree, in general
but being predictable is bad, even for established, highly talented offensive teams. We are young and hopefully talented. Giving the D an easy path to shutting you down is not a good idea. It is one thing to be conservative, another to be entirely predictable. Conservative is not necessarily bad, predictable definitely is!
If we can win this game the way we did.
Then the playoffs are not out of the question. Down 15 points with less than 3 minutes to go and the Broncos win? That’s about as rare, if not rarer, than a an 1-4 team making the playoffs. It can happen.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by go4broncos on Oct 23, 2011 6:55 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
It can
It helps that the AFC West doesn’t really have a dominant team. I am hoping Tebow can come out and get going early against Detroit. It would be good for my heart if we had a lead going into the 4th quarter haha.
I agree
Detroit is coming off two losses. That can get a team down when they’ve started undefeated. I’m hoping they start to question themselves and they lose their confidence. The Broncos on the other hand, have just won a tight game, and can hopefully take that momentum and build on it. Not sure about Staffords injury yet, but if we have to play withough McGahee, Doom, and Ayers, then it will be harder for us.
GO BRONCOS!!!
I'd rather face a team that lost 2 in a row...
…than a team that was 6-0. It means they aren’t as good as their start indicated.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Stafford injured too.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Look Im happy with the win and all
but the team offense needs to improve all around in order to even end up with a decent record. This was the ugliest broncos win I’ve ever seen, and it was against the worst team in the NFL. I hope McCoy can start becoming more imaginative with the play calling, and Tebow can improve the accuracy, cause our D isn’t going to hold up like that against better offenses. Which is everyone left on the schedule
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
True...against any other team in the league that comeback wouldn't have happened.....
…because we wouldn’t have been within 15 points.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
That's an interesting paradox Bonaire.
You could also speculate that if we had been down by more earlier McCoy would’ve had to be less conservative and let Tebow be more aggressive sooner. But it’s all speculation.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
Another good point
Kinda like last year against the Texans down by 17, took the training wheels off and came back for the win
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Entirely so
This game was so much like the Raiders game last year. In that one, they barely let Tim put the ball in the air. Man, I hope we do not need to be down 17 before we take some advantage of his skills
you watch sunday night football tonight?
the colts are waaaaaaaaay worse than the dolphins.
"Ubaltulargo"- Together striking fear into the hearts of unbelievers.
Far and away worse
theyre gonna end up with Luck. Boo
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Colts and Rams looked waaaayyyyy bad today.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
Im not sure who I want him to end up with
just not in AFC West
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Pulling for the Rams since they're NFC
But with Bradford there it would be interesting to see how they handle the #1 pick.
"It was my fault we were behind to begin with and I'm just proud of my teammates for continuing to fight and believe and make the comeback possible"
Tebow- When asked how he was able to come from 15 points down with 3 minutes to go.
Mike McCoy could do a little job at creating some plays that fit Tebow's strengths.
It could get ugly next week with the same dose of the playbook…
he could do well
by creating plays that the O-line would block for. Orton would have been sacked 10 times today. It was awful.
Tebow will improve with:
a. more experience
b. a better understanding of the offense (it should amplify his strengths i.e. better coaching)
c.better reading of defenses
d. better recognition of mismatches
e.better timing with his receivers
f. better play of the OL
All of this means good stuff ahead for us. Yahoooooooo!
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
"As a quarterback, all you want is an opportunity to lead your team to victory" - Tim Tebow
by azbroncomaniac on Oct 23, 2011 7:36 PM MDT reply actions 6 recs
i skipped a lot of that crap above to THIS well said!
goodbye luck!
He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which.
Douglas Adams
by Whidbey Bronco on Oct 23, 2011 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Go Green azmaniac
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions
And hello Eric Decker, Demarius (sp?) Thomas, Matthew Willis, Orange Julius, ....
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
"As a quarterback, all you want is an opportunity to lead your team to victory" - Tim Tebow
Was sure i hit reply to Whid's comment, but then I'm giddy on the win and kool aid lol
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
"As a quarterback, all you want is an opportunity to lead your team to victory" - Tim Tebow
by azbroncomaniac on Oct 23, 2011 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions
DT YES!!!
DJ WILLIAMS YO!!! Did you see him AND WW in together??
F@CK YES!!
He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which.
Douglas Adams
Those catches...a thing of beauty. As well as the DJ effort. Great to see such inspiration!
And several others at crunch time. Man I love this stuff
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
"As a quarterback, all you want is an opportunity to lead your team to victory" - Tim Tebow
by azbroncomaniac on Oct 23, 2011 7:47 PM MDT up reply actions
the perfect solution
i think i have figured out how to make everyone happy .. think or mariano rivera … in pads and a helmet … thats tim tebow .. the NFL’s first closer … let orton keep it close and then bring tebow in for the last 10 mins to push them over the top into the win column
No freakin' way. Orton stays out, Tebow gets his experience.
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
"As a quarterback, all you want is an opportunity to lead your team to victory" - Tim Tebow
by azbroncomaniac on Oct 23, 2011 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Haha. Faiders fail!!
Great come from behind win, guys. Tebow is something else. He’s hard to quantify. I hope he succeeds for you guys. Just not against the Chiefs.
Sunday night football at halftime leads with Tebow Time. Gotta love it
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
"As a quarterback, all you want is an opportunity to lead your team to victory" - Tim Tebow
oh and KB... this must be hard for you.
no explaining this.
We were really bad on offense.
McCoy might just SUCK …or Tebow is tough to game plan WITH or FOR
GO ORANGE CRUSH!
He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which.
Douglas Adams
Bingo!
The one thing I’m really taking heart to is our improved defense. I know there was nowhere to go but up, but we are going up. They are making plays. And with another good draft…
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
"As a quarterback, all you want is an opportunity to lead your team to victory" - Tim Tebow
by azbroncomaniac on Oct 23, 2011 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions
THIS!!!
One more good defensive draft, and we are set
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't like being confounded, but if we keep winning, I'll be just fine. :)
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 8:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I couldn’t watch or listen today, so all I have are highlights. Love to get a win. A win like this one can do wonders for a team’s psyche.
It will be interesting to watch how coaches make adjustments throughout the year. Not the defenses – our own coaches. There has never been anyone quite like Tebow, at least not in the modern era. The coaches are learning how to coach him. Wonder what it will look like in Week 17.
Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.
Game Rewind on NFL.com
Its like $40 bucks for the season. Watch games all the way back to ’09. well worth the $$$
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 8:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Eh, I don’t have that kind of time. I’m an ag teacher, which means that I’m busy 24/7. I have a DVR, but I couldn’t get it to set to extend the end time on my phone for some reason. I have Sunday Ticket, but I’ve used it once this year.
Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.
Just checked again, and its down to 29.99
Thats the beauty, its literally something you watch whenever…
they have condensed mode that lets you watch it play by play, no commercials, no huddle.
But to each his own, i def hear working 24/7 tho
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 23, 2011 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions
What I do is just dvr the game. It beats the heck out of paying the extra fee for game rewind.
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
Follow @MHR_Troy
by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I had to get NFL Sunday Ticket, too. Living in Louisville, I NEVER get the game.
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
Follow @MHR_Troy
by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions
plus i work on sundays
slaving away in a cubicle, trying to achieve the american dream….
One fish, two fish, red fish, DOOM fish.
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 24, 2011 12:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Certain people have titled it “The Tebow Thing” but nobody knows that the “thing” is.
It’s very simple. Every Gators fan knows what it is. Y’all eventually will as well. I’m not going to answer it for you, because the answer is right in front of you. It’s just a matter of time before it hits you.
Editor at Alligator Army - The Florida Gators Blog
The Florida Gators - The most despised team in all of college football - Which is fantastic.
Man, you can't just hold the carrot out there like that and take it away. lol.
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2011 8:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Haha, the best part for y’all, is that it is just beginning.
Editor at Alligator Army - The Florida Gators Blog
The Florida Gators - The most despised team in all of college football - Which is fantastic.
On my bike ride home tonight from a cafe...
I thought, wow, what if the Chiefs get lucky and beat the Chargers next week…they would both be 4-3….and the Raiders lost so they are 4-3 as well with their bye next week. So we could have a 3-way tie for 1st in our division at 4-3. And if we beat the Lions, we’ll be 3-4 and in perfect striking range! And we play the Raiders at the Black Hole the next week while San Diego plays Green Bay…and the Chiefs play Miami..it could be possible that the Chiefs would be 5-3 (if they beat Chargers next week and Miami the week after) and we would be tied for second with the Raiders and Chiefs all at 4-4! How cool is that? We are not out of it yet folks! This is the most excited I’ve ever been to see the Broncos at 2-4 and skulking along the bottom of the division…LOL Cause we are on the rise!
And then...
If all that transpires, then we would be gong into the Chiefs game 4-4 vs their 5-3 ready to take the lead in our division…all we gotta do is beat Detroit and the Faders… all Chiefs have to do is get lucky against the Chargers next week…any team cn beat any other team on any given day…
good point he really came out from center way better
not great but better by far
He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which.
Douglas Adams
by Whidbey Bronco on Oct 23, 2011 9:14 PM MDT up reply actions
The problem:
Its a give away we are running when under center. 13 from 13 on 1st downs, the majority from center.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Our worst fears were almost confirmed today Tusc
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
I'll die of heart failure by January then
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Haha, I Know!!!!!
I didn’t think I was even going to make it through the game today( and that was BEFORE the comeback) lol…I might actually get tanked before next weeks game, so I just calmly laugh and smile at everything…no pressure. I’m only 26 but damn, I aged about 20 today!
I'll be at the next game!!!
I may die on the spot.
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Aww, jealous! well, I'll phone ahead to the stadium, and ask them to put paramedics in your section just incase, better to be prepared for these things ya know!
by Tuscani on Oct 23, 2011 11:07 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
haha thanks
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
okok that was fun
Meanwhile Tebow?
Looked REALLY bad.
Almost as bad as Our coaching
He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which.
Douglas Adams
Thus, as you say
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Amazing thing is we were on the verge of getting shut out for the first time since, what is it, ‘92? Tebow sets everyone up for the biggest epic fail in the history of the Broncos, and BOOM, an improbable win. I’d think the media was about as polarized as it could get on Tebow, and he goes one further. He tops his worst and his best, in his first start under EFX, and we’re no further along figuring out whether he’s going to be a Bronco next season, or not. Elway said nothing new, one way or the other. What did he say? Didn’t make much sense. It’s fun to watch guys like Stephen A Smith arrogantly and calmly diss Tebow, while Skip Bayless rants and raves all over Timmy. They’re gonna have some kind of loud, this week. Probably the rest of the season and beyond.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Yeah, I was way bummed and cursing Prater for that
2nd longest streak in the NFL. And yeah, this is gonna be a weird week for the MSM.
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Eff the msm!
I’m not going to read any of their junk this week.. We won, yes it was mostly ugly, yes tebow needs improvement, but we won, I’m happy, looking forward to next week.. If the media wants to go on a tebow/bronco bashing tirade, have at it..it won’t change my opinion of my team or qb.
by Tuscani on Oct 23, 2011 11:18 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
that was a stinkbutt 3 and half quarters for sure.
"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox
Never seen a QB miss receivers by the length of a first down, like that…
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Some were intentional throw aways and not bad throws.
He admitted in his presser that he was being very careful not to force passes and threw some balls away that he should’ve tried to complete. He paso admitted je made some very bad throws and needs to get better too. On The long throw to DT, Demaryious confirmed that he ran the wrong route.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
Lol...paso = also..unless you live in El Paso and then Paso = Paso.
"I'm just honored and blessed to represent the Denver Broncos and will do everything in my power to help this team win games" Tim Tebow when asked how it felt to be named the starter.
Yeah, I thought Tim understands his own ability for the late game comeback, and didn’t want to give up field position, early, then didn’t want to give up a pick six, late. I don’t care that much if he misses by a mile, early. Fact is, he didn’t have a turnover, and has confidence to beat that 2 possession deficit. Just keep it close, and he knows he can win it in the end. We haven’t seen that in awhile. But that Eric Decker pass was really a piss poor throw. I thought it was first game starter jitters, too. There was a lot of stuff going on. I think he calms down more and more, and gets better, as he gets more starts.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
through the first 3 quarters, he had what 12-13 passes total?
That’s a recipe for putting a ton of people in the box to stop the run.
keep in mind i didn’t get to watch the game here in milwaukee despite my desires to…
Most of the passes i saw on the ticker seemed to be incomplete deep, as if hewas going for a TD every pass.
Still, his comeback might actually shut up some of his ESPN critics. I was never really a fan of him in his florida days, but becuase of ESPN, I’m starting to grow fond of him.
The guy has heart, true toughness and resiliency; something jay cutler(who since his time in CHI seems to only be good when his team is winning by 7 or more) could jot down a note or two about. Sure, perhaps he’s not the progenitor at the position, but he is strange enough combination of passer, bruiser, speedster, and will to make defenses stop and force a gameplan around him to stop him.
In a lot of ways, it seems like he’s capable or running a permament wildcat offense, call it the raging mustang or something.
He is going to have to learn better vision, get better at reading coverage, and be much more accurate when throwing to his guys. If not, once defensive coordinators figure out his habits, he’s gonna be in a lot of trouble.
RR: "Nyjer can't talk right now"
Reporter 1: "What about T-Plush?"
RR: "Nope, he can't come out either"
Reporter 2: "What about Tony Tombstone?"
RR: "I'm sorry, he's not here today?"
Reporter 3: "Is T-Clutch here today?"
RR: "All variations of the baseball player known to be called Nyjer Morgan are currently in my office serving a time-out. He won't be available until he calms down a bit."
Reporter 4: "Can we talk to his helmet?"
---RR slaps his head and moans.
Keep in mind that the number of pass attempts..
…is not actually the same as the number of times he dropped back to pass. He was sacked several times and scrambles a few more. But it was very conservative play calling.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Here's the profile of a comeback
over on Advanced NFL stats
As you move the cursor across the chart, the win/loss probability changes according to the outcome of each play. Pretty awesome tool, and what a comeback!
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
Loving it!!!
And a hearty shout-out to my homeboy Virgil Green of Nevada. Young man has hands.
I love the solid play of our less-sung cast, too; Tebow energy seems to help. Quan Cosby in particular is doing a killer job of slowly advancing field position, which Denver has failed at…forever?
But when did Prater start getting a gut? I have a feeling he’s going through hard times and wish him well.
"Aggression, discipline, accountability, effort" Brian Dawkins 9/29/2009
"Life is a daring adventure or nothing." Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace
by PositivIntegral on Oct 24, 2011 9:23 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Man, regardless of whether you think this kid will succeed or not as an NFL QB
Who doesn’t love it when their leader says stuff like this
“One of the great lessons you learn in football is that courage to keep fighting when you’re down,” Tebow said. “When you’re knocked down over and over again, you’re going to keep getting up. I was proud of our team that we kept getting up.”
And he not only says it but he lives it.
GO Broncos! I hope you improve next week Tim and get us another win as well.
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
What I liked...
Was the heart and courage it took of this team to stick with it, even after everything looked hopeless. It wasn’t all about Tebow… several other players stepped up in the last 5 minutes to pull this one out… and the Dolphins made mistakes that helped it along too.
I liked McGahee’s strong running… I was impressed that even Knowshon had a few nice runs and demonstrated a little ability to break through tackles.
I liked the defensive play… and I have to believe that with a better performance on offense, the Dolphins would have been hard pressed to gain any of their momentum. Poor offensive play gave the Dolphins their opportunities, and if you give any team enough chances, eventually they’ll make something happen… as they did.
What I disliked…
McGahee’s broken hand… just when it started to look like he is getting his mojo. I fear that this team, minus McGahee, is gonna have trouble against a quality opponent.
There was not much to like about the first 3.5 quarters. Missing wide open receivers time after time was disheartening, to say the least.
2 missed field goals? Prater is normally very reliable… Hopefully this was just an off day. Missed scoring opportunities almost always come back to haunt…
Turnovers… enough said.
All in all, I feel encouraged yet cautious. The offense will need to play better if they expect to win another game this season. I hope this was just a bad game for a team with much much more potential than what was shown yesterday. Even the Elway led Broncos had days they couldn’t get anything going…
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