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Numbers Might Be For Losers, But Tim Tebow Still Outplayed the Entire AFC West

MIAMI GARDENS, FL - OCTOBER 23:  Quarterback Tim Teebow #15 of the Denver Broncos rolls out against Jason Taylor #99 of the Miami Dolphins to end the game to overtime at Sun Life Stadium on October 23, 2011 in Miami Gardens, Florida. Denver defeated Miami 18-15.  (Photo by Marc Serota/Getty Images)



We said it would be ugly. We said it would be unconventional.

They said he couldn't start, they said he couldn't do this, or that, etc. etc...

Whatever you want to say about Tim Tebow is fine. I will agree that he obviously isn't going to get away with this kind of stuff probably ever again being that it was one of the most unlikely and historic comebacks in the history of the NFL.

For now, that's all I really care about.

For the future, I definitely want to see Tebow spread out the success he has had in the fourth quarter of the last two games through the other three quarters. This game was eerily similar to the Houston game, where Denver scored zero points in the first half and appeared to be completely incapable of any offense whatsoever.

Then, some kind of magic happens. Where does it come from?

Right now, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that the Broncos won and both the Chargers and Raiders lost. The Chargers have not yet beaten an opponent with a winning record and while Kansas City is hot right now, we've seen how low they can get. Oakland looks great one week and then they get shut out on their home field.

Star-divide

Still, while some have given Tebow the grade of "F" for his performance as a quarterback against the Dolphins and others have said he was "abysmal" or "atrocious" or even "awful," I think everyone is failing to look even within the rest of Denver's division to note one simple fact--Tebow out-played every other quarterback in the AFC West.

Tebow's stat line was 13-27 for 161 yards and two touchdowns. He attempted eight passes through the first three quarters and obviously struggled quite a bit. But, the Broncos won the game and Tebow helped spark a comeback in the final five minutes. Tebow finished the game with no turnovers.

Philip Rivers and the Chargers also traveled East on Sunday to take on the New York Jets. The Jets are considerably better than Miami, but nonetheless, Rivers completed only 16 of his 32 passes for 179 yards, one touchdown, and two interceptions.

I wonder if he should move to h-back.

Okay, so we'll give a pass to Rivers since he has proven that he is an elite quarterback in this league. But how about those pesky Kansas City Chiefs?

They went to Oakland with Matt Cassel and won 28-0, but they honestly won despite Cassel's pathetic display of passing, where he completed 15-of-30 passes for 161 yards, no touchdowns, and two interceptions.

How often is Kansas City going to get six interceptions to cover up such a dismal display of football?

Should we even mention the quarterbacks in Oakland?

Kyle Boller had virtually no confidence from his coaching staff, but hey, he is a former first round pick, a veteran who knows the offense, and by golly he's playing in front of his home crowd.

Boller was benched after going 7-for-14 for 71 yards and three picks.

Boller's replacement was Carson Palmer, who is fresh out of his street clothes and a guy who was just acquired for what could amount to be two first round picks.

Nice work, Carson.

The guy who quit on the Bengals didn't need to quit on the Raiders, he just helped them to one of the most embarrassing performances of the weekend when he threw 21 passes--eight of which were completed, three of which were picked off by Chiefs defenders.

Yikes.

Furthermore, did anyone see the Jaguars vs. Ravens game on Monday night? How about former first round picks Joe Flacco and Blaine Gabbert combining for a ripe zero touchdown passes.

Flacco completed just over 50 percent of his passes at 21-for-38 for 137 yards and an interception to end the game. Flacco completed eight more passes than Tebow, and finished the game with 24 fewer yards and had a desperation touchdown. In fact, he rarely even got close.

How about the golden boy, first round pick Blaine Gabbert who has a pretty throwing motion and long, flowing, golden locks?

He completed 9-of-20 passes for 93 yards and no touchdowns, but he got a win so all is well for Jacksonville at the moment.

Other quarterbacks that Tebow arguably out-played on Sunday? How about Colt McCoy, Charlie Whitehurst, Matthew Stafford, Josh Freeman (29-51, 2 TD, 4 INT), Jay Cutler (17-32, 1 TD, 2 INT), Matt Hasselbeck (14-30, 1 TD, 2 INT), A.J. Feeley (20-33, 0 TD, 1 INT), and the great Curtis Painter (9-17, 67 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT).

So, as bad as Tebow may have been on Sunday, he was still better than nearly half of the league's quarterbacks.

I don't hear ESPN questioning any of their NFL futures. How many of the guys that started this weekend had fewer than five career starts?

It's all about perspective, and obviously that is lacking in some parts of the media. People choose to ignore certain things, and they decide to amplify others.

But, the Broncos won, and Tim Tebow isn't going anywhere for now, so the Broncos will continue to press onward and upward, despite it all.

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Suck it MSM

I’m gonna +1 this just for that right there!

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Oct 25, 2011 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Me too.....I am beginning to think WE all know more than these experts...

And to be honest, who knows more about THEIR team: An educated fan that watches EVERY snap,or a sucky MSM type that tries to know all 32 teams and needs controversy for success? You tell me!

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Oct 25, 2011 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

You do know more about the Broncos than 90% of the MSM "experts"

Not only because you watch every snap, but because you talk (blog) Bronco football every day with other fans that focus on the same team you do.

The politics and controversy you refered to, can not be overstated. This explains alot of the silly things that fall out of their mouths. For example, pushing the Tebow being 3rd string.

That said, I watch it. I fast forward and rewind looking for anything said about my Bronco’s. Then I complain about the content……

luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan

by chikndnnr on Oct 25, 2011 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know right!?

As much as I know Im going to hate it, I cant wait for the Monday morning dribble that somehow makes its way onto NFLN or ESPN, or some lousy Yahoo article about how Moreno almost fell off a exercise bicycle that broke underneath him.

..We're 2-14 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..

by Teboner on Oct 25, 2011 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks man...hardly...but I am trying to learn more every day.

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Oct 25, 2011 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

When the purported experts

work as salaciously as possible, it is not hard for any Broncos fan to know more about the team than they do. The Internet is the latter-day equivalent of the Guttenberg printing press. Even as the written word became more readily available to the common man via the press, the same thing has happened with the Internet and blogs such as these, in terms of enhancing the knowledge of Joe Fan.

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 25, 2011 7:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

omg, it was the first comment, AND its green.

You guys are making me blush :)

..We're 2-14 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..

by Teboner on Oct 25, 2011 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

My wife always said I had a nack for making grown men blush

sometimes I wonder where she is going with comments like that…

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Oct 25, 2011 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Thats the thing about statistics

67.2% are bogus or can be amplified to say anything you want them to say

While Tebow’s first 55 minutes were atrocious – he still played in the top 15 of the league as far as QB’s go. It was a bad week in general for anyone not named Drew Brees, Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers.

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Oct 25, 2011 2:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Well Tom Brady had a bye week lol

so Tebow out-played Brady this week. But I got your point hahaha

Man's only as good as the strength of his/her convictions

by TheGr8Henry on Oct 25, 2011 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lol

Brady’s stat line was terrible! 0-0, no yards, no TD’s. He needs to play fullback! (lol)

...and then the Broncos rose from the ashes

by postpunk27 on Oct 25, 2011 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nah he's too fragile

He should play place-holder, or tackling dummy

Man's only as good as the strength of his/her convictions

by TheGr8Henry on Oct 25, 2011 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

hey man

0-0 is 100% accuracy rate – that’s pretty awesome!

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Oct 25, 2011 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

actually 0-0 is 0% accuracy

pretty terrible

Von Miller and Dumervil are basically racing to see who's first to the QB...Love this feeling!!!

by DaLostBoy4 on Oct 25, 2011 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not exactly

0/0= (according to my calculator) “Result of function is undefined.”

Not even Brady can divide by zero.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Oct 25, 2011 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tim Tebow can divide by zero

Man's only as good as the strength of his/her convictions

by TheGr8Henry on Oct 25, 2011 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Chuck Norris can too

but only when he wears Tebow Underoo’s!

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Oct 25, 2011 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

This was proven last Sunday.

...and then the Broncos rose from the ashes

by postpunk27 on Oct 25, 2011 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol

I didn’t even realize – thanks for pointing it out :)

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Oct 25, 2011 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Matt Ryan had a solid week

even though statistics suggest he was mediocre, he galvanized that Atlanta squad as a true leader should

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 25, 2011 7:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

For all his stats, don't you think Dan Marino would trade them all for

just one Super Bowl victory? I think that tells you everything you need to know about what really is important in the NFL.

"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."

by rubincarterrocks on Oct 25, 2011 2:18 PM MDT reply actions  

It’s great that Tebow played well in the last five minutes, but he definitely cannot afford to play like he did for the first 55 minutes against the Lions. But, the play calling sure didn’t help his play. Eight passes in the first half is ridiculous.

I also think that if Matt Prater hits those first two field goals, Denver could’ve taken momentum early and run with it.

"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".

"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.

by broncoholic on Oct 25, 2011 2:21 PM MDT reply actions  

The best part
It’s great that Tebow played well in the last five minutes, but he definitely cannot afford to play like he did for the first 55 minutes…

Its ok, he knows that, Fox knows that, Elway knows that. The best part is worrying about getting better and what needs to improve… after we won the game!!!

by NZBroncoFan on Oct 25, 2011 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Oct 25, 2011 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

There is a reason guys like Hoge are commentators and not coaches.

They have no intuition, no gut feeling cannot think, see or anticipate beyond what they’ve heard others say or what statistics say. The guys who win superbowls and put together great teams know that intangibles are absolutely critical to superior teams. Think Rocky Bleier, Rod Smith, Karl Mecklenberg, Tyrone Braxton…heck, even Terrell Davis! It’s the guys who can see past the other stuff and can see the heart, the football acumen, savvy, desire, drive, leadership of the player and how they affect those around them, they are the ones who put together championship teams.

"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."

by rubincarterrocks on Oct 25, 2011 2:26 PM MDT reply actions   3 recs

Not only well said but very well said!

Football very often comes down to heart. I’ve seen men with superior strength, speed, and talent that cave in to the guy who is unwilling to quit trying to hit harder and longer than they do. It’s called “heart” and Tebow has a ton of it. In addition, these types of players often inspire a similar effort amongst their team mates, hence “at TEAM sport”.

IF, and it is a big IF, Tebow is allowed to play to his current strengths while developing his pocket game he will pay dividends in immeasurable ways, like taking us back to the playoffs. I find myself getting tired of this on-going debate as to Tebow’s and am moving strongly to keeping my mouth shut on the topic and letting the season speak for itself. Now, I’m betting there’s someone out there who will no doubt express their pleasure at this prospect. It could be a play-action fake, however;O)

"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."

by BroncoCUbuffs on Oct 25, 2011 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Rudy Phenomenon.

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Oct 25, 2011 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

another great article!

MSM needs to put te week into context like you just did! Thanks for the ammo for me to use as a Tebow advocate. It may not have been perfect or even pretty but he is 2-2 as a starter with 2 comeback wins – lets give him some time to get comfortable with the 1s then look out! Since i live in San Diego i LOVED the Rivers comment haha!

by SDBronco on Oct 25, 2011 2:27 PM MDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Just looking at numbers is also a problem.

One of Cassel’s picks was on a hail marry at the end of the first half. The other was a stupidly thrown ball. Cassel’s completion % wasn’t great. However, Cassel made some important throws on third down situations.

The Raiders have been hard on the last two QB’s that faced them. Schaub only completed 47% of his passes and had two int’s (and 2 TD’s).

Stats don’t tell the whole story.

by bossmanham on Oct 25, 2011 2:41 PM MDT reply actions  

It should not be forgotten

that the Broncos with Tebow came back against the Chargers twice now, once last year in the last game of 2010, and then in the third game of this season, only to lose by a lousy 5 points each time. And that’s huge, Sayre, considering how the Chargers have been dominating us, points wise, in recent history. Think about it. If it were not for time simply running out in both of those games, we would have only needed to score a TD, and not even needed the point-after to win. That’s how close the Broncos came to having two other wins with Tebow in there. Just thought that this should be mentioned.

by 9798 on Oct 25, 2011 2:44 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes he did..all his GOOD stats are in the fourth quarter

.Sayre stated it best. “need to see him execute in the first 3 quarters”.
Review all his play and almost all are in the late 4th and Denver behind.
Tebow gets in the hurry-up shotgun and against the prevent defenses.
EFX “need to evaluate as a pocket QB”. WOW we know he can scramble.

"It's amazing the crowd Tim draws. It’s like he can’t do no wrong. But I’ll tell you what – if you don’t win in this league, it won’t last that long."
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by myerda00 on Oct 25, 2011 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

The "W" is all that really matters.

Last Sunday was the first time since 1970 that a team came back to win a game after being down by 15 points, and the Denver Broncos under Tebow did that. Tebow’s a gamer, and the entire team…offense, defense, and special-teams…stepped up their game to win, and when it’s all said and done, that’s all that really matters, anyway. Everything else can be worked on with the coaches in good time. However, what Tebow brings to the Denver Broncos, when it really does matter, can’t be coached.

by 9798 on Oct 25, 2011 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

At 4-2 San Diego is a fraud

the Chargers got extremely lucky against the Broncos and Chiefs and had Chad Henne been healthy, I think the Dolphins beat them

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 25, 2011 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree

Although Henne joined the mob that trashed Tebow before the Draft, and then he didn’t stick to his convictions, choosing instead to back-pedal his way out of it.

by 9798 on Oct 26, 2011 6:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great read mate...

Many may not agree with me on this one. However, i think Tebow is easing US into this new era. I think he knows that he only needed 5 min to beat the dolphins. He knows that the world is not ready for 60 min of “full on” Tebow, just yet. Now i am not sure how many minutes he will need to beat the Lions. In years gone by, it would have been the same as the dolphins, give or take a few ticks.

Now my sources say it could take up to a whole qrt this week to put away the Lions, so look out for another wild ride. Thank you Tebow for not blowing our minds with 4 qtrs of Tebow football. The MSM just isn’t ready for that yet. However, by the time we plat the Faiders again…CUT LOOSE ON THEM SON!!!!
GO BRONCOS

by Downunder Thunder on Oct 25, 2011 2:46 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Funny..

.. but you can tell Tebow it’s okay to unleash a full 60 minutes of pure unadulterated ass kicking the next time we play the Chargers. At least then Phyllis and Norv will have something real to cry about.

"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson.

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by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Oct 25, 2011 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

The world is not ready...

nice one, mate

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by PositivIntegral on Oct 25, 2011 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

great post sayre, I was actually thinking of writing an article about this very same topic

Ryan and Flacco (drafted in 2008), Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman (all drafted in 2009), Bradford, Tebow and McCoy (drafted in 2010) and Newton, Gabbert and Dalton (drafted in 2011) are all starting quarterbacks.

For their careers, only Matt Ryan has a QB Rating over 70 (according to the rating I created) who has played more than 16 games. Tebow actually has the highest rating at 77.8, but the smallest sample size of the group. Newton is second and Dalton is third.

Widely touted quarterbacks like Flacco, Bradford and Sanchez have struggled immensely.

For the season, only Matthew Stafford is even playing at a good level, with the only rating above 80. Stafford currently has an 88.6 rating.

While their accuracy has been better than Tebow’s, only 5 of the 11 QBs listed above are completing at least 60 percent of their passes. Good quarterbacks complete around 62-63 percent of their passes. Even with proper mechanics and fundamentals, most of these starting quarterbacks listed above are not accurate passers.

Also, of the above, only Stafford and Tebow have a TD:TO ratio of 2:1 or better. (if you include Tebow’s 3 starts last year for more data, he has 11 touchdowns and 3 turnovers in 4.5 games). This season, he has 4 touchdowns and 0 turnovers.

Only Cam Newton and Matthew Stafford join Tebow with a Yards Per Attempt average over 7 this year.

The reality is Tebow has an unorthodox throwing motion, but he produces. The stats actually do indicate that regardless of how he looks on TV, he has played just as well as the other quarterbacks on this list that are deemed “NFL caliber” quarterbacks.

by intelanalyst on Oct 25, 2011 2:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Well, it's obvious.

Next stop, Super Bowl. Getcha popcorn ready.

Tim Tebow Built My Hot Rod.

by TheMastermind on Oct 25, 2011 2:58 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Great article by Ted over at IAOFM

If I’m allowed to say that. He went over every drop back for Tebow and described how some of his passes were actually excellent, and that’s before the two TD drives. It made me feel much better about his performance overall.

If you add these two posts together, we all have reason to be optimistic!!

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by Jason Witte on Oct 25, 2011 3:04 PM MDT reply actions  

I have a lot more reason to be optimistic than that!

Wife is making lasagna tonight!!!

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Oct 25, 2011 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Damn, now I'm hungry..

"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson.

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by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Oct 25, 2011 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sayre-

I don’t know if I’ve ever read/seen you this direct before! You basically just told the MSM and all the other Tebow critics to go F themselves! Love IT!

by MileHighPride on Oct 25, 2011 3:09 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

MSM....Many Stupid Morons.

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Oct 25, 2011 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I fit in among those morons boydy

but like a black player in the NHL, I"m an anomaly and smarter than they are!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 25, 2011 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Present company excluded my friend!

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Oct 25, 2011 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 25, 2011 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Careful Sayre..

.. you wouldn’t want to confuse the issue with facts…

"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson.

I don’t suffer from insanity – I enjoy every minute of it!

by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Oct 25, 2011 3:22 PM MDT reply actions  

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by bloodwell on Oct 25, 2011 3:31 PM MDT reply actions  

LOL...what a funny funny post

I don’t know what your point is here other than “TEBOW ROXXORZ MY SOXXORZ!” You are comparing Tebow to the other 31 starting QBs? Child please…it isn’t the same.

Let’s talk Broncos football more and Tim Tebow less shall we? Oh…pardon me, I must have mistaken MHR for a Broncos Blog…

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by sadaraine on Oct 25, 2011 4:30 PM MDT reply actions  

Tim Tebow is a Denver Bronco, last time I checked. How can you separate the Broncos from Tiim Tebow or Tim Tebow from the Broncos?

That’s like going to a Packers blog and saying that they need to talk less about Aaron Rodgers and more about the Packers. Or going to a Panthers blog and telling them that they need to talk less about Cam Newton and more about the Panthers.

Aren’t they one and the same?

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 25, 2011 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Stop making so much sense...

it’s hard enough for team anti-Tebow to handle his continually surpassing their sure fire predictions.

by TheMascotArmy on Oct 25, 2011 4:59 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Unless you dont like Tebow, as our friend here....Ok....VON MILLER RULES!!!...feel better now?

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Oct 25, 2011 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Child please?

The 70’s called, they want their quip back.

...and then the Broncos rose from the ashes

by postpunk27 on Oct 25, 2011 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I do

They could put the caveman in Jockey underware.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Oct 25, 2011 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Best read in a LONG time!

Such common sense…too bad it doesn’t fit the msm narrative. Great stuff.

by TheMascotArmy on Oct 25, 2011 4:56 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I would like to see the offense catered more to his abilities

Get him in the gun more, get more play action reads going, it’d be no different than any franchise QB that has the system molded to his strengths.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Oct 25, 2011 4:57 PM MDT reply actions  

But Tebow just confirmed he can not start

He showed he can FINISH, though. But playing better in the first half should be a priority. This is a recurring theme from last year. His first win against Texans was a thrilling comeback because he was cold in the first half and offense scored 0 points. This necessitated second half heroics. He came up short in his comeback vs SD twice, last year because offense was poor in first half again. Against the Dolphins, he was bad for more than just a half. Yes, we still pulled out a win, thanks to major contributions from the rest of the team. But Tim needs to learn to find his rhythm sooner.

by si_ice on Oct 25, 2011 5:44 PM MDT reply actions  

Either that or...

When you’ve only started 4 games there’s no such thing as a recurring theme. He’s come from behind in 2 games and was close to coming back against the Chargers and Raiders last year. This years Chargers game he didnt play the first half so you can’t count the near comeback as being his fault. Someone who actually watched each of those games could also easily derive that the ultra conservative game plans in every game last year and Sundays game could be a contributing factor to getting behind.

"It was my fault we were behind to begin with and I'm just proud of my teammates for continuing to fight and believe and make the comeback possible"
Tebow- When asked how he was able to come from 15 points down with 3 minutes to go.

by asinsoin on Oct 25, 2011 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Those game plans are not conservative

They are DUMBED DOWN. Conservative means low risk. These plays are simple, making them higher risk and lower reward. Being creative on offense does not mean you ask your QB to sling it into double coverage all game long, or run crazy flea flickers. We need to get our guys moving before the snap and create mismatches.

by Da Bum on Oct 26, 2011 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe this week

Tebow can start slow for ONLY the first two quarters, then open up the can of whoop behind for the entire second half. Broncos at HOME in ORANGE with TEBOW! We are thisclose to a 2 game winning streak!!!

by Broncos15 on Oct 25, 2011 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've heard a couple of reports of Suh playing dirty last game, any truth to this?

I didn’t see it, but I hope that’s not the case..and I sure as hell hope he gets nowhere near Tebow..

"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work as hard"-Tim Tebow

by Tuscani on Oct 25, 2011 8:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

He had a couple of controversial moments

but I do not believe he is dirty

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by the new Bradfather on Oct 25, 2011 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cool, thanks!

I don’t think he’s a dirty player either, maybe I mis heard what was meant to be said..lol still don’t want him near teebs though!

"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work as hard"-Tim Tebow

by Tuscani on Oct 25, 2011 10:27 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Let's hope there's no "dirty" controversy this week.

Suh plays nasty. He wants to hit and hit hard. He’s not out there intentionally punching people in the throat or roundhouse kicking them in their knees or beanbags. The media is blowing up the whole dirty thing. Even if he did say “get the cart” how is that dirty? Unprofessional, maybe. But dirty? Really? He’s not even the one that hit Ryan…. My nephew told me the other day that although sticks and stones may break his bones, words would never hurt him. Apparently that’s not the case in the NFL these days. Sad.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Oct 26, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Cool beans, the comment doesnt really bother me, just over heard a convo between some lions fans at work, I like suh alot, he’s a beast!

"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work as hard"-Tim Tebow

by Tuscani on Oct 26, 2011 12:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

The only part of the acusation that bugs me

is it just seems like people are choosing an incorrect adjective. Dirty just doesn’t seem to fit here. Unprofessional, cocky, justifiable penalty magnet, nasty, overly aggro, meanie, jerk….if any of those were used, I’d have zero problems with any of this “story” even if I still disagreed.

Regardless, he is a player your offense will have to account for.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy

by Leonuro on Oct 26, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree, wrong adjective for sure!

Suh is awesome! I went and looked it up for myself, and yeah I def agree this whole thing was way over blown. Not sure what “Dirtyness” was being described, Suh is a stand up guy from everything I can see.. thanks for your thoughts!!

"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work as hard"-Tim Tebow

by Tuscani on Oct 28, 2011 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Way over blown his comments regarding Ryan

Most Ds have high smack talking guys. That is no where near the worst of it. Romanowski anyone?

by Da Bum on Oct 26, 2011 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I say--

That he wii do better if he’s allowed to get in a rythm let him work out the kinks LET him have a real chance. Also I’m wondering if Mr. Meril(I’m sorry but that name is funny for some reason) might be on Elways speed dial I can’t say for sure but his words sound allot like Elways tweets lately. There is a Leak in dove valley and who knows who it is. Just pay attention for the next few weeks and tell me if I’m crazy.

by CenCalBronco on Oct 25, 2011 6:45 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

can u show us link to elway’s tweets? what or who are they about?

"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."

by chaucer on Oct 25, 2011 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

As a statistician by trade

I know stats in and of themselves are bereft of worth. I am rewatching the Jags-Ravens game and Blaine Gabbert did not have sexy stats but he was adroit at taking what the defense gave him, and was much better than Joe Flacco!

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by the new Bradfather on Oct 25, 2011 7:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Everybody was better than Flacco this week. He was beyond horrible last night.

"It was my fault we were behind to begin with and I'm just proud of my teammates for continuing to fight and believe and make the comeback possible"
Tebow- When asked how he was able to come from 15 points down with 3 minutes to go.

by asinsoin on Oct 25, 2011 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

He made some good throws

there were two to Jason Hill I liked

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by the new Bradfather on Oct 26, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he showed flashes for sure. Flacco was beyond awful, so Gabbert looked positively average by comparison.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Oct 26, 2011 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

naturally he performed better than half the QB's in the league

Only half of them won their game. A little luck involved so far, but Tebow has really surprised me with how little he actually turns the ball over. All of those 3 and outs were depressing but they are not the momentum changer that a turnover would be, or say a missed field goal.

Drinkin the kool-aid, smokin the Orange Kush

by boanst on Oct 25, 2011 8:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Very very few turnovers

at UF too if you want to go look it up.

by TheMascotArmy on Oct 25, 2011 8:49 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mayock critiqued him and said his motion and mechanics gets BETTER under duress.....crazy!

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Oct 25, 2011 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mayock knows more than pretty much anyone about football

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 25, 2011 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah..pretty fascinating man!

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Oct 25, 2011 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Seems to agree with the assessment that he is being tentative

Trying to do something new always has that effect. If it pays dividends and can become more natural… we will see rapid improvement.

by Da Bum on Oct 26, 2011 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

"Lets move Rivers to H-Back"

I cant help but imagine P. Rivers trying to block Joe Mays, or anyone for that matter. I will have great dreams about this tonight.

by Broncolove on Oct 25, 2011 9:29 PM MDT reply actions  

Joe Mays

will go Joe Frazier on some chumpy kid at the local ring on Felipe Rivers!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 26, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

didn’t he have a fumble?

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by chaucer on Oct 25, 2011 10:34 PM MDT reply actions  

did anyone notice one sack in particular where it appeared as though tebow slammed the miami defender into the ground before he himself hit the turf? i think he’s the strongest qb in the nfl.

"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."

by chaucer on Oct 25, 2011 10:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Sure he sucked

But they sucked worse, is that your point? I’m glad that makes you feel better. The truth is he played poorly against one of worst teams in the NFL. He was gifted with two extra last minute posessions or he would have lost. You can dump sugar on it all you want, but it still stinks.

Enjoy the Tebow Kool Aid while you can, fans. This team still has bigger issues than QB.

by azdenfan on Oct 26, 2011 6:38 AM MDT reply actions  

You know what pisses me off?

 Throwing mechanics not withstanding, I watched Trent Dillbag on ESPN totally rip Tebow for how he played the game in Miami and basically said that he is not an NFL QB. He then moves on to Cam Newton and says he is the real deal. He was essentailly saying that it was ok for Cam to run as a QB, but Tebow has to klearn not to run. I was thinking, “what an ass. He Likes Cam but hates time for exactly the same reasons”.
As an avid fantasy football geek, I pay close attention to stat lines and knoticed that many QB’s this past weekend were worse than Tebows’. However, the only one that was in essence ridiculed by the sports casters was Tebow. How is it that this contradiction is not noticed outside of Bronco Country?
Anyway, I expect a better statistical performance out of Tebow this next week and he will be going against a better team, but it will happen. I just want to know what these so called experts are going to say when his numbers start to match those at UF, which they eventually will.
Go Broncos.

by AConn on Oct 26, 2011 1:24 PM MDT reply actions  

And that is the only way the critics will every be silenced

And maybe not even then. Hoge is probably so stupid that even if Tim hoists the Lombardi, he will still try to tell us Tim cannot play. As long as Tim and the Broncos get better and win games… who give a crap.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools!

by Da Bum on Oct 26, 2011 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

A few corrections

it’s learn not klearn, and Tim, not time, noticed not knoticed

by AConn on Oct 26, 2011 1:26 PM MDT reply actions  

Additionally,

Tebows 4th quarter rating is highest in the league despite the small sample size. Something like 117.whatever.

by AConn on Oct 26, 2011 1:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Great data and post

I like this post! I felt the same way about Flacco – one yard net passing in 1st half and no expert panel discussions that he can’t play… he looks good passing while TT looks strange. I went back and watched the game over to concentrate on TT. My 1st impression was he was a DOG the first 55 minutes and a miracle worker the next 5. The second impression is the entire offense was out of synch, no rhythm at all. TT had some great plays escaping the rush. Had some good pass attempts that could have been completed and a couple of really bad ones that were just terrible throws. He had a hard time reading the defense and blitzes. The nutshell is he played like a talented raw QB – what else would we expect? Just like Elway’s 1st year, we waited to see him deliver on the goods like a “normal” QB… he did against the Colts at the end of his 1st season. I want to see TT make some standard NFL throws, lead his team in a sustained manner, convert some key third downs in long drives. I know he can pull off athletic feats of wonder so let’s cross that off the list (as well as he won’t quit, is tough, seems like a good leader and can run). I just want to see him run a smooth offensive game plan now. In the interim, the critics and zealots will cling to their already cast opinions and over analyze him. Until there is more tangible data on TT we will endure this. I will enjoy watching him be all that he can be, wherever that lands him is okay with me.

TEBOW!!!!!

by turnman on Oct 26, 2011 1:52 PM MDT reply actions  

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