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Quarterback Time Tebow talks about what he learned in Miami, Detroit defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and Florida's game against Georgia.

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There aren't many young quarterbacks receiving more attention than Matthew Stafford. The one he hopes to face Sunday certainly seems to be. If Stafford can overcome an injury to take the field, the Detroit Lions surely have a better shot to bounce back from consecutive losses and spoil Tim Tebow's first home start of the season for the Denver Broncos.

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Tim Tebow said that while last week's comeback win was great, he and the team would prefer to start fast enough that a comeback isn't necessary.

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The Detroit Lions

In the 2008 Super Bowl (2007 season), the New York Giants pulled the upset over the undefeated New England Patriots. The Giants had a dominant running game and a stout defense that could stop the run and rush the passer.

I listened to a podcast yesterday at ESPN in which Ross Tucker and Mark Williamson broke down the Detroit Lions’ loss to the Falcons last Sundaay. And what they concluded was that the Lions no longer have a decent running game and cannot stop the run because of injuries and other reasons. Yes, they still can rush the passer.

But because of the sport’s media propaganda machine’s desire to take down Tim Tebow because of his threat to the status quo as an unconventional QB and their discomfort with Tebow’s fervent and outspoken religious beliefs, I predict you will not hear this idea promulgated by the talking heads.

Instead you will be left with the idea that the Lions are as vaunted as the Super Bowl Giants and the fact that the Lions have lost their last two games will receive scant attention or mention and that Tebow has no or very little chance to prevail against the Lions.

In reality Tim Tebow and the Broncos have a far better chance or opportunity to beat the Lions this coming Sunday than the Giants had to beat the Patriots and thus the task is nowhere as daunting as the Giants faced against the Patriots a few years ago.

Don’t believe the hype.

by technopeasant on Oct 27, 2011 8:42 AM MDT reply actions  

The spread is only 3 points in favor of Detroit.

Vegas doesn’t think Detroit is considered a slam dunk to win Sunday.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 27, 2011 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tebow feeds off the crowd

Denver 28, Detroit 21…

Von gets another sack
so does Dawkins and Wilhite (Safety Blitzes)

Tebow throws for 230 yards 2 TD 1 INT and and 60 yards rushing and 1TD

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by CombatChuk on Oct 27, 2011 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’d just like to see Elvis stop being a wussy and start earning his contract for once. He could have a field day on Detroit’s sorry OTs.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 27, 2011 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jim Backus is a loser

Cherilus isn’t much better

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 27, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

backus was pretty solid as mr. howell though.

"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox

by oxmouth on Oct 27, 2011 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh Magoo

You’ve done it again.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

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by KaptainKirk on Oct 27, 2011 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

exactly.

severe nearsightedness doesn’t make a guy a loser.

"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox

by oxmouth on Oct 27, 2011 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not sure where you are getting this propaganda

Since both ESPN and NFL Network are saying Detroit could very well lose this game. Add in Tebow doesn’t threaten any status quo anymore than Donovan McNabb or Steve Young did, I wonder what you are watching or reading.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Oct 27, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

You and I are both always good too kill the over-dramatization that seems to follow Tebow, Denver, young teams, etc.

It’s a fun job IMO.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 27, 2011 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well said Maxwell. The idea that Tebow is "hated" because of his Christian beliefs in a country that is 90% Christian is the biggest load of self serving rubbish I have ever heard.

I’d say more on where these this is coming from but I don’t want to start off a political debate.

But I will say this. NFL analysts and commentators have every right, as do fans to point out what they believe are the flaws in Tebow’s game. Unlike the keyboard warriors on the internet the commentators have to put their name to their writings.

I love MHR for the depth and intelligence many of its fans But the amount of media bashing on this site can be quite unappealing. I’ve lost track of the amount of times I’ve seen journalists called very insulting names that I bet the poster would not even begin to contemplate saying to their face. And I’m sure Tebow would be the first to say if you can’t say an insult to someone’s face then don’t say it behind their back ( or post anomously on an internet blog for that matter).

Let the media hacks do their jobs and if you don’t agree with their views on Tebow then you don’t have to resort to name calling or unsubstantiated claims about hidden agendas or whatever.

Tebow has every chance now to prove them wrong. Let him get on with it.

What would Blackie Lawless do?

by British Bronco on Oct 27, 2011 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would

call Colin Cowherd CowTURD to his face, but otherwise, I get what you’re saying

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 27, 2011 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Oct 27, 2011 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be fair

I rewatched Lions-Falcons last night and they were a deflected pass and Brandon Pettigrew drop from making things really interesting . The Niners game was literally lost by inches on that 4th and Goal, we need to respect the Lions. Yes, we can beat them, but they are good.

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 27, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tim,

I find this disturbing. I just told you yesterday what the offense should do on Sunday. Now Woody Paige says the same thing. They claim that great minds think alike. Either I’m losing it by saying the same things as Paige or he’s getting to my level of thinking.

Kyle Orton is the Tin Man....No heart, can't move and the oil can is too far away!

by mdierk on Oct 27, 2011 8:48 AM MDT reply actions  

LOL

Scary thought isn’t it.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

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by KaptainKirk on Oct 27, 2011 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

hope it is him getting to my level

Kyle Orton is the Tin Man....No heart, can't move and the oil can is too far away!

by mdierk on Oct 27, 2011 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow... may God have mercy on your soul....

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 27, 2011 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL.....

I will get to confession soon!

Kyle Orton is the Tin Man....No heart, can't move and the oil can is too far away!

by mdierk on Oct 27, 2011 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

remain calm.

i’ve had that scare before. slow things down and don’t form opinions until you’ve read woody’s columns. once you have, just disagree no matter what. do that for a week or so til you’re feeling on your game again.

"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox

by oxmouth on Oct 27, 2011 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

LMAO!

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

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by KaptainKirk on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

That is scary

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Oct 27, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe Woody is reading MHR and copying you.

For what it’s worth, I agree with you. Shotgun / no huddle from the start.

by FresnoKevin on Oct 27, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

if Woody is reading me, then he is reading my mind.....

I have not posted any thoughts on this on MHR. Either that or I need to get a better cell phone since he may have been tapping my conversations.

Kyle Orton is the Tin Man....No heart, can't move and the oil can is too far away!

by mdierk on Oct 27, 2011 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL, now that is scary.

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by weazel on Oct 27, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

He's tough

Broken bone is his right hand that required surgery Monday. It’s Wednesday and McGahee is listed as day-to-day?

That dude is pretty bad ass.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 27, 2011 9:01 AM MDT reply actions  

as long as he doesn't drop the football

Kyle Orton is the Tin Man....No heart, can't move and the oil can is too far away!

by mdierk on Oct 27, 2011 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think the Ravens

would rather have McGahee than Ricky Williams to spell Ray Rice, this is the only time we got over on the Ravens!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 27, 2011 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'll bet

McGahee’s fumble in the Dolphins game is when he broke his hand, of course, he played really well for a little while after that, the trainers probably took his helmet away

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 27, 2011 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah saw that too he is a man, looking like a better pick up day by day, Willis is the man

by Den97winben on Oct 27, 2011 10:34 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

San Diego’s 1st round picks since 2007

2006 – Cromartie (plays for the Jets)
2007 – Buster Davis (Bust – no longer with team)
2008 – Antoine Cason (about to be benched)
2009 – Larry English (IR – could be cut in off-season)
2010 – Ryan Matthews (meh)
2011 – Corey Liuget (decent starter with potential)

All in all, it’s pretty sorry record for the overrated AJ Smith. Not to mention that San Diego hasn’t exactly been lighting up these drafts in the mid to later rounds either.

That team is getting by almost entirely on having star or core players in their 30s (Rivers, Jammer, Hardwick, Dielman, Gates, Garay & S Phillips).

As father time catches up with this team, you’ll see player regression, injuries take longer to heal, more injuries, loss of speed, burst, etc). As a team, they are like America’s economy in 2007. A bubble that is about to burst.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 27, 2011 9:16 AM MDT reply actions  

They do have a lot of good players entering their post prime career.

IMO – Jammer and Phillips are the two best defenders on that team and have been for a long time.

If there was any QB in the AFC West even close to Rivers, I think SD would already be considered a has been. There 9-7 record last season was indicative of exactly where they are as a franchise and it’s only going to get worse IMO.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 27, 2011 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

fine with me

the Dolts had their chance, when we’re good, we win championships, San Diego chokes in the postseason one Super Bowl appearance, it didn’t come with Dan Fouts and Rivers will never get there, it was Stan FREAKING Humphries, that is still so incredible to me

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 27, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

SD at KC

This is a huge game. If KC wins and the Broncos knock off the Lions here are the standings:

CHARGERS 4-3

RAIDERS 4-3

CHIEFS 4-3

BRONCOS 3-4

by technopeasant on Oct 27, 2011 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

looks like Denver's drafts in the early 2000's

Kyle Orton is the Tin Man....No heart, can't move and the oil can is too far away!

by mdierk on Oct 27, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

And how did that work out for us starting around 2006?

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 27, 2011 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

i know, i know......

3 coaches, multiple DCs and major turnover since

Kyle Orton is the Tin Man....No heart, can't move and the oil can is too far away!

by mdierk on Oct 27, 2011 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Try to remember this conversation in 2014-2016 when San Diego is picking in the Top 10 off all three of those drafts.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

and hopefully Denver will be running the AFC West again

Kyle Orton is the Tin Man....No heart, can't move and the oil can is too far away!

by mdierk on Oct 27, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

I like our chances against a Javid Best-less Lions team with a Hobbled Matt Stafford

I hope Dennis Allen blitzes the hell out of them and keep his confidence low… I also hope the gameplan for Tebow allows for a faster start. I think as Tebow starts practicing more and more with his receivers things will start falling in place.

Willis McGahee as day-to-day… HOLY CRAP, dude must eat nails for breakfast.

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by CombatChuk on Oct 27, 2011 9:27 AM MDT reply actions  

and tacks for snacks...

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 27, 2011 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

and fruit rollups.

i mean, to kind wash everything down…

"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox

by oxmouth on Oct 27, 2011 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

We really need to

be aggressors early in the game, yes, Mike McCoy, I"m putting you on BLAST, give Tebow a chance to excel you ninny

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 27, 2011 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hey-o

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 27, 2011 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

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