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Detroit Lions @ Denver Broncos Pre-Game Open Thread

ORANGE SUNDAY

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Sunday, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:05PM MDT

Sports Authority Field at Mile High 

Denver Broncos (2-4) vs. Detroit Lions (5-2)

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I asked the guys over at Pregame.com to give me their thoughts. Pregame.com is the largest sports betting news site compliant with U.S. law, and have been featured by ESPN, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, and hundreds of other national outlets. Pregame.com has agreed to provide us with exclusive insider analysis of how Las Vegas is looking at this week's Broncos game.

Marco D’Angelo (Follow on twitter: @MarcoInVegas)

No thanks, I'll pass. You can sell my seat to someone else on the Tim Tebow bandwagon. I am not going to buy it. This team has a bad defense and with Tebow at QB, they have a bad offense as well. For 55 minutes Tebow did nothing completing just 4 passes. With 5 mins left Denver found themselves down 15-0. Miami decided to go into prevent defense and suddenly Tebow was dinking and dunking his way down field. Denver was able to score and get the onside kick and then the Tebow love fest was born. He tied the game at 15-15 and then won it in overtime.

Detroit was the darling of the league just 3 weeks ago, but back to back losses has everyone jumping off the Detroit bandwagon. Detroit lost to the 49ers who are playing very well and that was the game following Detroit's big win on Monday Night Football. Detroit was flat off of that Monday Night game. Last week they lost to an Atlanta team who is starting to put it together and remember last year this Atlanta team was 13-3. Denver can't stop good passing teams and Detroit is just that, so I see several big plays for the Lions offense on Sunday. Bottom line: we are getting value with Detroit because of all the Tebow hype. Detroit wins by 10.

Vegas Runner (Follow on twitter: @VegasRunner)

Prior to the season kicking off, the line being offered for the Week 8 match-up was Detroit -1. This week books opened the line as high as -3.5 and received immediate money on Denver from sharp bettors. Currently, the line sits at -3 and even as low as -2.5, which is a major move since "3" is such a key number in the NFL based on 18% of results falling on that number. The move made by betting syndicates was due to the injury to Stafford, knowing that even if he does start he won't be at 100%. It was also due to the Lions looking much more like the projected 8-8 team prior to the season in their last 2 games. On the flip side, the Broncos may not have won pretty against the Dolphins, but the ends justified the means and Tim Tebow ultimately provided a much needed spark. Looking at this week's game, the Lions come in with an ATS margin of +34 and the Broncos are -15. Historically, most teams finish the season with an ATS margin of +/- 6 so the betting market should see a regression by Detroit and a progression by Denver. The Lions have won only once (1971) in Denver and I don't expect them to make it twice. Personally, I feel there is a lot of value taking +3 with the home dog and I believe we will also get a low-scoring game that'll result in the UNDER 43 cashing as well. PICK = BRONCOS +3

Bryan Leonard (Follow on twitter: @BLeonardSports)

The Lions started the season on fire offensively, but have come back down to earth in the last month. Over the last three games Detroit has scored 16, 19 and 24 points with the final total points scored in those games being 39, 44 and 37. Keep in mind that in all three of those contests both the Lions and their opponents had their opening day starting quarterbacks. That won't be the case here. Starting running back Jahvid Best is injured along with a hobbled Matthew Stafford, so the Detroit offense which has scored a combined 26 first half points the last five games will be severely hampered. Defensively the Lions have held all but one opponent to under 26 points, so we look for a conservative game plan from the Detroit coaching staff.

Denver has made the quarterback change to Tebow and the Broncos were rewarded with a victory last week against the Dolphins. Denver played a field position game and we will likely see another conservative game plan here. Tebow is a running quarterback who throws short passes. That means lots of time off the clock without any big play possibilities. Defensively Denver has held 4 of 5 opponents to 23 points or less with only the potent Green Bay offense lighting this team up. It's very possible by game time that we will see two quarterbacks behind center that were listed as second and third string coming out of camp. If Hill is announced the starter this line tumbles. Regardless we look for a low scoring defensive struggle out of both teams.

Joe Gavazzi (visit at www.JoeGavazzi.com)

The Tim Tebow era has arrived. Trailing 15-0 with 5 minutes remaining, he rallied the Broncos to an 18-15 win. There is plenty of value in this line based on Detroit's hot start. Despite losing their last 2, they have still covered the line by a net 32 points this season. At this Thursday writing, Detroit QB Stafford (leg) is expected to start. But their most explosive runner, Best, is doubtful to make post. Favor the clear momentum of the Broncos at what remains a value price.

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Go Broncos!

If Tim Tebow fell out of a boat and fell into the water, Tim Tebow wouldn't get wet, the water would get Tebow'd

"Broncoblood and Gatorblood beat tigerblood any day of the week" -Tim Tebow

by Ramon Fernandez on Oct 30, 2011 12:51 PM MDT reply actions  

First!

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 12:57 PM MDT reply actions  

Not quite.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

you have no proof.

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

The timestamp is proof.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Refresh the page.

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah... you're still second, bud. Ramon Fernandez has you beat. #Owned

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Haha I just wanted to see if you'd do it.

he has me beat by 6 mins

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Where's Ashton?

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I tried to get Zooey to host todays episode but..

she declined :/

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe I should have asked her?

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should of had Nick ask her?

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

That wouldn't have helped.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that's debatable..

lol

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

!! They're airing the Seahawk/Bengal game here...

…how depressing…

Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, and Davis.....
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.

by Mike Clark on Oct 30, 2011 1:09 PM MDT reply actions  

They're not showing the late game on Fox here

Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, and Davis.....
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.

by Mike Clark on Oct 30, 2011 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Try CBC or NBC, forget which.

They are not showing it on Fox here either, though that is where it usually is.

by idahobronc on Oct 30, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

where are you Mike?

I’m also supposed to get the late Fox game but right now it’s on UFC Primetime. Is that showing up for everyone?

Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.

by Boiler etc on Oct 30, 2011 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Young WRs

Hope all of the young WRs do a good job today. I think their our best asset.

by Bucking_Bronco on Oct 30, 2011 1:11 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

First!

aw crap.

"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox

by oxmouth on Oct 30, 2011 1:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Elvis is active!!!

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 30, 2011 1:21 PM MDT reply actions  

he needs to get a sack

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

These early games are about to get interesting. It seemed like a few of these were looking to be blowouts.

Now, they aren’t.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:22 PM MDT reply actions  

Greetings Kaptain...thanks for hosting the thread again.

"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."

by BroncoCUbuffs on Oct 30, 2011 1:23 PM MDT reply actions  

Miami beating NY

better than they seem or NY is not as good as they seem?

by MileHighPride on Oct 30, 2011 1:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Maybe Miami is just good for 3 quarters?

We’re about to find out.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Miami against the Broncos is a horrible football team.

Miami against the Giants is a team with a lot of heart.

Go figure.

by Tim Lynch on Oct 30, 2011 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Brandon Marshall told the media that they shouldn't be surprised when the Dolphins beat the Giants.

Marshall is such a reliable source.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lloyd is dropping balls just to get us mad..

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:28 PM MDT reply actions  

good point lol

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

He caught 4 so far..

today, and one for a TD..it was weird and strangley nostalgic to see Lloyd in a Rams throw-back Jersey..doing his “Can’t See me” gesture…after the TD. He is going to be bummin…when we make the playoffs and he is sitting on the RAMS team watching from the couch…LOL But thanks for the 5th Round pick brother! Please make those 20 other catches!

by Brazenwood on Oct 30, 2011 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ravens take the lead. Finally.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2011 1:29 PM MDT reply actions  

Yahooooo!!!

COme on Defense, prove those betting sites listed above wrong! We can defend the pass! Tebow CAN throw the deep pass (especially out of the Spread)…let’s just say it…we are at home on Orange Sunday and Dawkins will have em’ fired up..and Tebow too! We will dominate the faltering Lions!

THIS IS OUR HOUSE BABY!

GO FRICKIN BRONCOS! (Got my white Moreno Jersey on!)

by Brazenwood on Oct 30, 2011 1:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Lets go Tim Tebow

"When you die, there's going to be a tombstone. It's going to have your name, it's going to have the year you were born, and it's going to have the day you died. In between, there's going to be a dash. And that dash is going to represent everything that you did in your life; good and bad. It's how you're remembered. What do you want your dash to represent?" ~Tim Tebow

by ibailey_24 on Oct 30, 2011 1:38 PM MDT reply actions  

thats a bit extreme lol

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

If you want to be linguistically correct...

Jesus’ real name should be Joshua… In Hebrew it is Yehoshua…which made it into the Greek as IYASUS, which went into latin/spanish as Heysus, which came into English as JESUS… so if the Jersey said Yehoshua (Joshua) that would be cool…LOL

by Brazenwood on Oct 30, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Andrew Luck is the best college QB I’ve ever watched and Matt Barkley is another guy that could be a #1 overall pick in some drafts. Landry Jones has also been impressive.

This could really be a year where QBs rightfully go #1, #2 and #3.

I don’t think it will matter for Denver but the 2012 draft could be the most interesting Top 5 ever.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 30, 2011 1:49 PM MDT reply actions  

You know I’m on the Tebow wagon. Mine isn’t really a Bronco related comment.

But still, this is a damn impressive QB class entering the 2012 draft. Miami picked a good year to suck. So did Arizona.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 30, 2011 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

aren't the Cards

compelled to pay Kolb for several years though?

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 30, 2011 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Luck vs Barkley made for fantastic tv.

Neither was perfect, but both played great.

Such a great game to watch last night even if my Trojans lost.

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by Nick Cast on Oct 30, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

it was a fantastic game to watch. Both QBs were nails in OT.

I was there!

by McGeorge on Oct 30, 2011 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Triple OT. Such an incredible game. If only Curtis McNeal (USC RB) could have held onto the damn ball.

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by Nick Cast on Oct 30, 2011 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wanted to cry at the end.

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Such a terrible way to lose a fantastic game.

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by Nick Cast on Oct 30, 2011 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ditto

"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."

by BroncoCUbuffs on Oct 30, 2011 1:51 PM MDT reply actions  

Link anyone?

Not showing game here in NW Iowa

In Tebow I trust

by nacaboose on Oct 30, 2011 1:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Fellow Iowan

Where at in NW Iowa are you? I went to college at BV.

by wiebrod on Oct 30, 2011 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Live in Rock Rapids, went to school at SD State.

In Tebow I trust

by nacaboose on Oct 30, 2011 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

We need more Jackrabbits in the NFL

Vinatieri is the only one I can think of

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 30, 2011 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

GO BRONCOS!!!

Brad James

Follow me on Twitter

With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Oct 30, 2011 2:00 PM MDT reply actions  

$5 says Megatron gets 0 catches

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore

by Pmoreno95 on Oct 30, 2011 2:02 PM MDT reply actions  

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