Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 10/06/11
by Tim Lynch on Oct 6, 2011 8:09 AM MDT
in Horse Tracks
Email
Print
MHR Ticket Center - Don't miss a game, use Mile High Report's own ticket resource!
Week 5 - Wednesday: Fox | DenverBroncos.com
Head Coach John Fox talks about Champ Bailey full participation during practice and preparing for the Chargers.
Broncos QB Orton still No. 1 but starts to feel the heat - The Denver Post
Kyle Orton knows all the stats. He knows the Broncos won only once in the first quarter of the season. He knows that he has thrown six interceptions and lost two fumbles in four games, and he knows the Broncos are tied for last in the AFC West.
Broncos WR reshapes body to get results - Boulder Daily Camera
ENGLEWOOD -- Before Eric Deckers rookie season in Denver last year, about all he could do to stay in shape was pump iron at the gym while he recovered from an operation on his left foot.
Fox Buoyed By Close Losses: ‘We’re Not Light Years Away’ | MaxDenver.com
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. – Last January, the Broncos staggered into the offseason having lost 10 of their last 12 games, including five defeats by 14 or more points.
Peyton Hillis' success emboldens Broncos fans with Tim Tebow at QB | First-and-Orange
With the Broncos playing the AFC West leading San Diego Chargers this Sunday at Sports Authority Field at Mile High, followed by a bye week, this may be the biggest must-win of the Bronco-Orton era.
Denver Broncos News
Week 5 - Wednesday: Orton | DenverBroncos.com
Quarterback Kyle Orton talks to the press after Wednesday's practice.
NFL.com news: Broncos rookie tackle Franklin excused after death of brother
Broncos rookie right tackle Orlando Franklin was excused Wednesday to deal with a family tragedy.
Bronco excused to deal with tragedy - Boulder Daily Camera
ENGLEWOOD -- Broncos rookie right tackle Orlando Franklin was excused Wednesday to deal with a family tragedy.
Broncos QB Orton believes team about to turn tide - The Denver Post
So explain this, Kyle Orton critics. In 33 quarterback starts for the Chicago Bears, Orton averaged just 161 passing yards a game. He threw almost as many interceptions (27) as touchdowns (30). His passer rating was a less-than average 71.1.
Chargers will show Broncos a different kind of challenge - The Denver Post
One school of thought says the Chargers team coming to Denver this weekend is not quite on par with San Diegos teams that won the AFC West four of the last five seasons.
Until reinforcements arrive, Broncos have to limit dents on defense - The Denver Post
Todays question about the Broncos comes from Sammi in Golden. Q: With the Broncos playing a 3-3-5 defense, I can see Elvis Dumervil and Von Miller shining as pass rushers.
Denver Broncos Blogs
Getting Back on Track | DenverBroncos.com
With the Chargers in their sights, the Broncos are looking to 'get back on the winning track' in Week 5.
Wednesday Practice Notes: Dawkins, Fells Sidelined | MaxDenver.com
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. – No one returned, and two more starters went to the sideline as the Broncos began preparations for the San Diego Chargers here Wednesday morning.
Could Miami revisit Orton talks? - AFC West Blog - ESPN
It is doubtful the Dolphins would want to trade for Orton now that they are 0-4 and Orton would have 12 games left on his contract. The Dolphins are simply trying to get through this season. Miami is likely focusing more on getting a quarterback early in the first round of next year's draft.
Chargers Vs. Broncos: Vincent Jackson Did Not Participate In Wednesday's Practice - SB Nation Denver
The Denver Broncos might find the San Diego Chargers down another weapon by the time Sunday's game at Sports Authority Field at Mile High kicks off. Tight end Antonio Gates is already expected to be out for several more weeks, but wide receiver Vincent Jackson's status has changed drastically over the last few days.
Michael Conniff: Con Games: Buffs, Broncos Hoofin' It in Hell | Huffington Post
I've tried to root for both the University of Colorado Buffaloes and the Denver Broncos in the No Fun League -- and it's been no fun at all. It's not just that they lose because losing I can live with.
NFL performance matrix: Broncos get point at Green Bay, not win | First-and-Orange
With 23 points in a Week 4 defeat Sunday at Green Bay, the Broncos improved their scoring average by one from 19.3 points to 20.3.
NFL News
NFL notebook: Agent advised Browns' Hillis not to play | The Columbus Dispatch
Fearing that Peyton Hillis was weakened from strep throat and could risk injury, his agent advised the Cleveland Browns’ running back not to play on Sept. 25 against Miami.
NFL.com news: Rodgers not interested in verbal debate with ex-Packer Favre
Brett Favre believes Aaron Rodgers "fell into" a great situation in Green Bay, but the Packers' current QB is taking the high road when it comes to his famous predecessor.
NFL.com news: Bad blood simmering in emerging Packers-Falcons rivalry
It's not top of mind like Ravens-Steelers or Cowboys-Redksins, but when it comes to NFL rivalries featuring the most animosity, Packers-Falcons is quickly heating up. Steve Wyche explains why.
Personnel Review: NFC West | DRAFTMETRICS
Most of the analysis will concern the NFL Draft since it is generally the most important "building block" for a team. Trades, free agent signings and the ability to retain players will also be examined, though, to give a complete picture of team building activities.
WalterFootball.com: Week 5 NFL Picks
This is a home game for the Broncos, so the crowd will be going against them. Kyle Orton will start yet again for some reason, so the fans will be chanting for Tim Tebow.
40 comments
|
1 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Thanks Tim!
It’s been a couple weeks since I had time to ‘voice’ my appreciation for the Tracks!
Thanks brother. Go Broncos!
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Oct 6, 2011 8:44 AM MDT reply actions
Just asking
If we lose to the Chargers on Sunday and the coaches decided to bench Orton and put in Tebow, do we keep the same run run pass offense or do we open up the playbook a bit and air it out? Is a bye week enough time to make such a huge change? Will it even make a difference?
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
Just Answering
1. Yes. Oh, sorry, I see its multiple choice. It will change to run, pass, run, reduce the playbook for a relative rookie.
2. Its two weeks, almost as much time as this past off-season, enough time for Carolina and Cam Newton (who once played behind Tebow at Florida) or Cincinnati and Andy Dalton.
3. After the bye-bye week, anything will make a difference.
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Oct 6, 2011 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Turn the tide based on what? Orton's play?
The article paints the perfect picture. Kyle started as a terrible QB being completely carried by a stud defense and ST. He has “progressed” into a thoroughly mediocre QB who STILL needs to be carried by a stud defense and ST. Sorry Kyle, your self-assessment as a better QB doesn’t mean much when “better” simply means sub-par.
Mediocrity is like a lollipop: lick it once and you'll suck forever.
Sticking with Kyle Orton is like taking your cousin to the Homecoming Dance - you're openly admitting that you had no other options, and it's guaranteed that nothing is happening after the early dance.
There is something tragic about Orton's situation
He certainly did not asked to be traded, but I am sure he was excited about working with McD as he was then seen as an offensive genius (having a little trouble with that with the Rams). McD, they guy who choose him, totally fails. The one exception being assembling a really impressive receiver core, Decker and Lloyd were his additions and we got a defensive player in trade or Gaffney another McD guy.
On his way out the door, McD his guy, drafts a rough QB prospect. After McD is fired, Orton sits and watches this guy who is a poor excuse for an NFL quarterback have the same success in wins as he has and THE FANS LOVE HIM. The broncos try to trade you in the off season and no one wants you. No one will give a 1st, 2nd or even 3rd pick for you. It is okay though, you can go back to Denver and play out your option.
Then you find yourself, a quarter of the way through the season, at 1-3 and playing poorly personally. Your own fans are chanting for a guy who you know can’t take snaps and can’t read coverages.
If it was not for the fact that he is going to make more money this year than I will in my career, I would feel really bad for him.
by Keyworthpunch on Oct 6, 2011 9:26 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Orton has already made more money in his first 4 games than I will make in my career.
Orton is in a no win situation. He knows that he is not staying in Denver; even if Denver were to trade away Tebow (I don’t believe that), the fans would hold Orton accountable for that. Orton is trying to play well enough to earn a spot on another team. No matter how well he plays, it’s not good enough.
“No matter how well he plays, it’s not good enough.”
That is a lie. It would be good enough if Orton played well enough to win.
You heard no boos or Tebow chants during the Cincy game a few weeks ago. That wasn’t a no win situation. Orton actually won because he actually played well.
Orton holds all the cards in terms of how he is perceived in Denver, on his future contract and his spot in the NFL.
Kyle Orton makes $8.8MM in 2011 to lead the league in INTs on a 1-3 team with the 22nd ranked scoring offense, 24th in yards per game? In his contract year! Staying such a course isn't rebuilding, it's just lunacy.
THIS
if he played well and stopped having the crucial TO then fans would ease up. Problem is seems like every game he fumbles or gives up an INT at a time that crushes the team.
Release the Tebow!
I want to know when a turnover is not crushing!
When is a turnover not a seven or 14 point swing. A loss of momentum.
Look, I get the whole Kyle is not clutch bit. I really do. But to try and quantify (sorry if I butchered that) a turnover is just silly. The fans will not ease up until Tebow is playing. Orton could play a great game but if we lose then it will be because he stumbled in the second quarter and screwed up the timing of a handoff making McGahee miss the hole that would have sprung the game winning touchdown.
Go Broncos!
winning cures all
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Orton asked to be traded after the 2010 season.
And he has said many times he doesn’t care about the fans or their opinion of him. No one should feel bad for the guy. He doesn’t feel bad for himself.
Kyle Orton makes $8.8MM in 2011 to lead the league in INTs on a 1-3 team with the 22nd ranked scoring offense, 24th in yards per game? In his contract year! Staying such a course isn't rebuilding, it's just lunacy.
Nothing could make me feel sorry for the guy
You want tragic? Wait until he gets injured (pretty much a foregone conclusion given his history) and no one in Denver cares. You may actually hear cheers the second he doesn’t get up. The cheers will not be for the injury – Denver fans are too classy for that, even with a player they cannot stand – but Orton’s injury will trigger a renewed sense of hope give that someone, ANYONE, else is coming in to play QB. When that happens, if you care enough, you spend your pity on him.
Mediocrity is like a lollipop: lick it once and you'll suck forever.
Sticking with Kyle Orton is like taking your cousin to the Homecoming Dance - you're openly admitting that you had no other options, and it's guaranteed that nothing is happening after the early dance.
That is just sad
And very cold hearted. I realize it is just a sport and on TV no less. But those are mean words.
I simply don’t see how anyone can continue to disparage his play as being so bad given the way QB’s overall are performing this year. Week after week names like Brady, Rothlesberger, Flaco are making headlines with worse play than Orton. Rookies are putting up great numbers in losses, which I suppose if providing for better entertainment, but not good enough for me. We have been competitive so far except for GB as much because of Ortons play as there is blame for his mistakes. Seriously happier with Orton than I would be with Romo if I were a Boys fan.
Go Broncos!
Worse? You're dreaming.
Even? Maybe with Rothlesberger and Flacco. With the exception of the Buffalo game, Brady is playing on a level that is just sick. The reason they make the headlines even when they have those games? People actually have expectations of those QBs because they’ve earned the attention in the past. They’ve won, they have come through in clutch situations time after time and teams would kill to have them at the helm of their squad. No one expects anything out of Orton because he’s NEVER DONE ANYTHING. We’ve been competitive in three games thanks to our sub-par defense holding on for dear life while Orton does everything humanly possible to give the games away. Quickly: name the last time an Orton-led offense scored 30 points! You’ll be heading back a ways. QBs are putting up numbers this season that are absolutely ridiculous (literally, it’s almost irritating) and more importantly, most of them (not the rooks) are winning while doing it. Orton is doing neither. And he never has. He’s a QB that must be carried by a team at all times.
Mediocrity is like a lollipop: lick it once and you'll suck forever.
Sticking with Kyle Orton is like taking your cousin to the Homecoming Dance - you're openly admitting that you had no other options, and it's guaranteed that nothing is happening after the early dance.
What if EFX actually like Tebow and want to protect him?
In a post article this week, it indicated that EFX were 1-1-1 about who to play at quarterback. Elway and Xanders were on opposite sides and Fox cast the deciding vote. What if Fox really cares for Tebow and wants to give him more experience before throwing him to the wolves? It would be really interesting and funny in a sad way, if Fox really did like Tebow and had plans for him, but just not this year. All the fans that want to boil Fox in oil because he won’t start Tebow, and Fox is actually trying to make sure he developed into a quarterback.
I have to say, this season is shaping up in terms of morbid curiosity in a really engaging way. Will Tebow start at all this year? Does the FO really care for him and have plans for him? Will they draft a QB? Do they like Weber that much? Will the Broncos start winning and will Orton start playing really well? Will Orton be back next year? In a male soap opera sort of way, this season will be interesting to the very last.
So much for "consensus".
You can be dumb... that's ok! There are many dumb people.
You can be an a$$hole... that's ok! There are many of these as well.
Unfortunately you cannot be both...
Ok... prove me wrong.
Remember when 3 days into camp
Orton was declared head and shoulders above Tebow and made the starter after that exhaustive qb competition? Me too. I can also imagine how head and shoulders above tebow he would have looked had he been the one playing with the two’s (and that line) against the ones.
What a farce that was. Fox is the worst.
by TheMascotArmy on Oct 6, 2011 9:56 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
And thanks for horse tracks,
I look forward to them every day.
by TheMascotArmy on Oct 6, 2011 9:57 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
John Fox..
“I’ve got to do everything in my power to get this right. For me, if it ain’t working, I’m not one to do the same old stuff.”
Um,k….if you say so…
by Tuscani on Oct 6, 2011 9:59 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, I don’t care what he’s looking at or what time frame.. Week after week he gives the “same old” answers and keeps trotting the “same old” crap product on the field…sorry, but that quote just screams irony.
by Tuscani on Oct 6, 2011 10:31 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Seeing us throw so many bombs in GB after that pathetic coaching debacle vs Tennessee was actually an encouraging sign for me.
Our coaches did actually adjust instead of running the ball up the middle a bunch of times for no gain, even on 4th down vs a vastly better run defense than our run offense.
Kyle Orton makes $8.8MM in 2011 to lead the league in INTs on a 1-3 team with the 22nd ranked scoring offense, 24th in yards per game? In his contract year! Staying such a course isn't rebuilding, it's just lunacy.
This
There were some encouraging things in the GB debacle…especially the offensive play-calling. But that was all overlooked because our D dropped an absolute stink bomb on us.
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
Chad Henne is Out For Season
will Sparano make a trade with his butt on the hot seat? stay tuned!
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that Tim Tebow should be the quarterback for the Denver Broncos. ~ Abe Lincoln
They'd trade for Tebow
before Orton.
by TheMascotArmy on Oct 6, 2011 10:15 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd be ok with that.
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that Tim Tebow should be the quarterback for the Denver Broncos. ~ Abe Lincoln
Which tells you how the league feels about our 7 year vetern QB
Orton has less trade value than our “unready” inaccurate inexperienced backup.
They will sign Garrard.
Kyle Orton makes $8.8MM in 2011 to lead the league in INTs on a 1-3 team with the 22nd ranked scoring offense, 24th in yards per game? In his contract year! Staying such a course isn't rebuilding, it's just lunacy.
they are opposed to paying Qbs money and Garrard can sign with Indy.
Orton is already paid. We’d have to get more comp for sure but now there pretty desperate.
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that Tim Tebow should be the quarterback for the Denver Broncos. ~ Abe Lincoln
looks like there rolling with Matt Moore and Spicy Sage Rosenfels
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that Tim Tebow should be the quarterback for the Denver Broncos. ~ Abe Lincoln
"you know"when Fox is lying?
It is whenever he says “you know”.
Has anybody else noticed how often he says that?
by TheMascotArmy on Oct 6, 2011 10:17 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Ryan Leaf
is getting interviewed by Jim Rome right now and he says I was the best August player of all time! Kyle Orton begs to differ…..
Brad James
Follow me on Twitter
With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Oct 6, 2011 11:10 AM MDT reply actions
I think its a little unfair
To compare Orton to Leaf.
Orton has actually won a few games
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 6, 2011 12:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
but on the flipside
Leaf was actually held in high regard at some point in his career, even if it was at college
by Trapped in O.C. on Oct 6, 2011 12:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I know these must take a lot of time
and I want you to know, Tim, how much we displaced Bronco fans appreciate the tracks.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Mile High Report
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
Getting Social With MHR
Web Stuff
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Detroit Lions DT Nick Fairley arrested again; now has more NFL arrests than NFL sacks
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
