Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 11/1/11
by Tim Lynch on Nov 1, 2011 8:15 AM MDT
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Well ladies and gentlemen the worst happen Sunday. The Broncos were blown out by the Detroit Lions 45-10 at Mile High. To make matters worst Tim Tebow played his second bad game. At what cost do we as fans have to witness this horror. This hurts bad.
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I've mentioned this a couple of times in various comment threads and am mostly just getting mocked, so I figured I would put my notes here. I re-watched the first half of the Detroit game and honestly thought that Tebow showed more good than bad in the first half.
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I love me some McGahee. Dude is 100% heart, willing to play with a busted hand. That said, I hope he’s benched til the hand is better, might make it hard to hold onto the ball
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
That game last night was hilarious. Seeing the pained look of defeat on Rivers face never gets old. Now they get Green Bay on a short week…
They could be 4-4 at the midway point. Typical Paper Tigers except this season, their schedule gets a lot harder in November and December.
I was there!
Oh there will be many delicious tears drunk here in San Diego next week.
I caught some flak from co-workers after Denver got owned by GB and I told the lone Packers fan that the Bolts fans just don’t know what’s coming. They have this strange delusion that because they’ve dominated this weak division for so long that they are in the same league as the NFL’s elite. They’re about to find out how wrong they are.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
bleep the Dolts
it’s not like anyone cares, as soon as adversity strikes, no one goes to the games, even in years when they have won the division, a bunch of disloyal undeserving losers
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
We'll beat the Raiders.
They’re a mess at QB right now so that playing field will be level and if the rest of the Broncos roster isn’t chomping at the bit to redeem themselves after being embarrassed in front of God and everybody, then they have truly quit on this season. I said we’d split with the Raiders before the season started and I’m sticking to it.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
If Tebow can eliminate the three and outs, there is no telling what will happen. He is best in a groove, in the red zone and in short yardage.
Can’t do what you do best unless you move the ball early and in-between the 20s.
Hopefully he also hits a big play or two. Should make a huge difference if any of these things happen. Detroit had a ton of players in the box and several 6 and 7 man pass rushes. McCoy, Tebow and his WRs need to adjust.
I was there!
McCoy can't call games like he's playing madden
Calling for hail marys 33% of the time…
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Funny Thing...
If he were just a bit more accurate they would work
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
That is not true
The WRs also need to create separation. That fault lies with both the QB and WR.
DT and Royal are playing terrible ball and Decker was getting owned by V Davis in Miami. Tebow needs to throw a better ball and our WRs need to learn how to get some separation. Our guys can’t get open vs one on one coverage nor are they making plays on the ball outside of Decker.
Teams are daring us to throw deep, but we don’t have a deep threat right now. DT’s injury, rust and other factors with his play are problematic.
I was there!
Decker isn't #1 WR material
Doesn’t have the speed to get separation, DThomas is still hurt or doesn’t give a crap. It’s hard to see Dez Bryant making plays when we took the lame Thomas instead…
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I have no idea why McJedi ever felt the urge to trade up for a 1st round WR at the 2010 NFL draft to begin with.
I don’t think it’s a conversation between Bryant or D Thomas. I’d rather we spent that pick on defense. Just draft Devin McCourty (CB) or Brian Price (DT).
I was there!
A 1st round WR with a broken foot, no less
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Decker is very good #2 WR material. Every good team has ten+ Deckers on their team (good, but not great starters).
We have three. Decker, Kuper and Robert Ayers. It’s reason #1 our team doesn’t play complimentary football. We have a few studs and a bunch of below average players.
I was there!
Kuper shut down Suh all day. He did well on Sunday
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Kuper has been a bright spot
At times it looks like he’s playing bad, but having Walton (who’s getting better little by little) and Franklin he’s probably an island most of the time.
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We need at least 7 more Kupers and these guys are usually found in rounds 3 to 6, which is where we usually draft Seth Olsen, Parrish Cox, Eric Olsen, Carlton Powell and David Bruton.
I was there!
Thats true. This teams problems run much deeper than QB. We should have never let Lloyd go
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Lloyd didn't want to be here... We shouldn't have traded Gaffney
Gaffney liked Tebow and worked with him a lot over the lockout
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Yeah but Lloyd was in a contract year
he would have played his a** off
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
and although I like the Gaff trade at 1st
I’ll readily eat crow on that one. We didnt get anything at all for him. Just essentially cut him
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
I was sad to see Gaff go from the beginning to be honest.
Do you know what you got into? Can you handle what he's about to do? Tebow is about to make it rough for you...I bet you thought that he was soft and sweet. Thought angel swept you off your feet? Tebow is about to turn up the heat...
Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..
by Tuscani on Nov 1, 2011 10:45 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Well we have a 5th round pick so we didn’t let him go.
What matters now is if we turn that pick in to a Chris Kuper or a Kenny McKinnley (whom was on the verge of being IR/waived before his unfortunate death).
We’ve been a really bad drafting team and it’s F’d up our roster to the point that we try to pretend below average players (Moreno, Bruton) so-so (M Thomas, DT, Royal) players are good players. The results on the field speak of themselves.
I was there!
Oh right the 5th rounder
maybe we can turn that into the next Parrish Cox. We gotta stay in the race with Cincy for most arrests, you know.
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
And I'll argue that DT and Royal are so-so
I’d say they’re playing worse than Moreno right now
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
So many starters on this team are riding the pine almost anywhere else.
Goody, Dawk, Mays, our entire d-line after Doom who hasn’t been so hot lately either. Our entire O-line besides Kuper and Clady, all of our receivers and backs, and our starting QB should probably be holding a clipboard on a team with an established QB who has 3 or 4 years left. But at least our kicker and punter look good, Champ has a couple years left, we drafted a legit young LB in Von and we’re still in wait and see mode on the rest of the guys we drafted.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
I think Decker, Kuper Clady, Ayers, Elvis, Von, DJ and Champ are starters on most teams.
Most of our other starters are backups elsewhere. Guys like Vaughn, Wilheight, our entire backup O-line, Mays, Bruton, Ball and Rasairo don’t even make most teams.
I don’t think we have a legit starting QB on our roster either, but I guess I’ll hold out hope for Tebow one more week before Fox pulls the plug.
I was there!
...and I see maybe three guys there who would make the pro-bowl
Clady, Champ, and Von.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
by MrFNSunshine on Nov 1, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
we must draft better
please McGeorge, tell Rain Man ERRRR X-Man who to get
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
The Packers and Lions are serious contenders to go deep in the playoffs. Of course they embarrassed us.
The Raiders are more our speed and this should be a close game at the least. ( I knew I shouldn’t have picked the Broncos over Detroit with that glaring turnover differential but my heart just couldn’t pick against them.)
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
Im the same way
I can never pick against the Broncos. I always tell myself “any given sunday”… Been doin that a lot this year and last
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
I be tied with Mike Birty for the number #1 spot this week if I had not picked them.
Oh well, the heart wants what the heart wants.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
Yup, my record on picks on Yahoo would be much better if I picked with my head instead of my heart
although it improved now that I use my head on the ’skins. At least my number 2 team is doing well
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
The only game the Lions
really “sucked” in (they lost by 7 to the Falcons), they broke even in turnover ratio because the Falcons were gangbusters, that game.
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions
agreed....
where are the screen passes and quick flares? Those passes require little to no read and should keep the D honest. Ideally 5-10 yard quick slants are the counter to do this, but that’s where Tebow really struggles.
Agreed. I’d also like to see a reverse. Teams follow Tim’s direction with all three LBs.
Mike McCoy is not the most creative guy.
I was there!
Funny
Not long ago, many were complaining about Bubble screens being thrown way too much and that they need to throw long. Now it is the opposite. Just saying.
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Kirk,
the issue is we see very little adjusting to the schemes we are seeing. We are not good enough to impose our will on any team in the NFL at this point. So with that being said they need to make adjustments to the coverages/ schemes.
Unless we are just soo over matched on both sides of the ball that we just need to take beatings until we can get some talent on the roster.
Management needs to earn my faith, the past has taught me too much.
I believe that has to do with the personnel
including the limitations at QB.
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if thats the case why even take the field. If McCoy is that handcuffed he should quit.
The story has been the same all year including the preseason going back to last year. the offense is stagnant at best and cant execute in the red zone.
Its been the same story all year long, eventually the coaching should be able to figure out how to adjust and if they cant they need to question the caliber of job they are actually doing.
Management needs to earn my faith, the past has taught me too much.
and limitations at WR, TE, O line, D Line, LB, Safety, CB...they are all as bad as at QB...but we have 2 good kickers!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
we do have two good kickers
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
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and some awesome gymansts
seriously, the guy in the pic was awesome
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
kind of generous. Prater seems pretty average this season. 7 for 10 with a real stinker vs Miami
I was there!
On those 3 and outs it would help if Royal and both Thomas's would catch balls that hit them right in the hands
Sure Tebow throws wildly often, but the most frustrating part of watching that game was the awful drops by Royal, Thomas’s, Decker had one, and Ball. All were catchable
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Yup, that's why I said both Thomas's
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
and on TE's
did Thomas get benched on Sunday? Was it just me or did Dante Rosario have a catch in that game?
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Dante Rosario and Fells were on the field a lot. And no, I don’t remember Rosario making a single play.
I was there!
I think he may have had a tackle on ST (Rosario)
I was texting a lot during the 2nd half, wasn’t really worth watching although I had great seats
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
You didn’t miss much. Decker’s got some talent and fight in him. That’s about all you missed worth seeing.
I was there!
Oakland is favored by 8 points
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
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I saw 9 this morning on ESPN
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
I don't doubt that.
It opened at 8 yesterday and probably isn’t through moving
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
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Our only hope this Sunday is if Palmer still looks crappy and
McFadden is still injured…
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Why wouldn't he look like crap? Is all that rust gonna fall off after one game?
Unlikely. And it’s gonna make for epic lulz if Tebow looks better than Carson does.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
That would be awesome
but this game could go so many different ways. We could end up seeing a 6-3 game like Browns vs Seachickens
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
if we win, I don't care!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm definitely taking that.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
I bet Denver to cover this weekend…my wallet’s a bit lighter now….stay away from inconsistent teams…betting 101
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
The Broncos didn't quit
we were destroyed by the Lions, but I saw solid effort throughout the game, but in garbage time, things don’t often work the way you may have hoped
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Im not so sure
The GB game there was no quit. The SD game there was no quit. I saw a lot of quit from the D especially in that game. They werent in it from the Lions’ opening drive
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
To be fair
Direct TV deleted my DVR inadvertently, so I didn’t get to rewatch things with the naked eye as I usually do, be it as it may, let’s not quit any more
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Demaryius Thomas and Eddie Royal
Have been playing like they want the season to end… I’m not sure why Royal has regressed so much, but DThomas is a dangerously close to being a bust. Even though Dez Bryant is a nut job, at least he runs good routes and has the “I want the ball” mentality that Thomas doesn’t have.
Eddie shouldn’t be re-signed next year, and again WR is going to be a big need next year…
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Eddie continues to play out the string with this attitude of “get me to the off-season healthy so I can sign a one year incentive laden contract with a passing team with a better QB”.
I can’t blame him, but I don’t think we’ll miss him. I contend we still traded the wrong disgruntled WR.
I was there!
MHR Radio?
What time?
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by weazel on Nov 1, 2011 8:46 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
do it at 10:00 MDT!
that way it can be early Wednesday morning for you, Bena! Just kidding, if the podcast is available for later, I’m cool with whatever
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I hope it's at 10 est too
I don’t want to miss this one.
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by weazel on Nov 1, 2011 1:38 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Listening to John Elway on the radio...
It’s clear to me that Tebow is gone next year… Tebow will probably be traded next year (no more Tebowmania in Denver). Get used to the idea of Matt Barkley or Landry Jones as QB going forward. Maybe sign a vet as a backup.
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Hello Jake Delhomme
Maybe we even hang onto Orton. No one wanted him, even for peanuts
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
What did he say? I believe you, I’m just wondering if you can paraphrase some of his comments that you led you to posting this since I didn’t get to hear it.
Seeing no improvement in Tebow (Which I thought there was)
How he’s GOTTA make all those throws. I dunno, there was something about his tone that made it seem like he wants Tebow out.
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Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. It’s amazing, here in Des Moines Iowa I can pick up 850 KOA from 5-7:30 in the morning, and then again at 7:30 at night. So I get to hear a little bit of Denver radio every once and awhile.
neither can I :(
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I felt exactly the same way...
…and kind of hated John’s tone. But I can see why EFX are not so hot on TT.
by isiddiqi on Nov 1, 2011 11:14 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Elway's tone has never been very high on Tebow, ever. IMO
John is very subtle and says all the right things but I have perceived that also.
Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.
I paid good attention to the Stanford vs USC game last weekend.
I was very impressed with both QBs, but focused on Barkley since Luck is Miami bound.
I was there!
Barkley has progressed from last year and made strides. That may be a sign of something in the future or not...
I remember Matt Leinart was making the same kind of strides…
I didn’t think so. Leinart didn’t improve between his Jr. and Sr. seasons.
Barkley is a better prospect than Leinart. He has less talented teammates, worse coaching, but better skills/head on his shoulders.
I hope Denver has scouts on him vs just hoping against hope for Luck.
I was there!
A part of me thinks John is willing to give all the 2012 picks and a 2013 1st rounder
To draft Andrew Luck. Considering how the Broncos are going right now and seeing him troll the Stanford sidelines during games has me wondering.
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troll? Freudian slip? lol
I would hate it if he would gut the team for Luck
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-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
lol I'm also surprised the NCAA would allow Elway on the sidelines now that he works for the Broncos...
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The NCAA is so crooked
if you’ve not figured that out yet…
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
That trade you propose is not enough for Luck.
Good ahead and add Von Miller and Decker into your trade and then some team might listen.
I was there!
Glad to do my part setting expectations appropriately.
Our chances at Luck flew out the window when we beat Cincy and were totally gone when we beat Miami.
If Tebow pulls off another few wins, Barkley and Jones will also be bye-bye.
I was there!
I seriously think EFX will not let that happen
I wonder if playcalling to not adjust to opposition is already a part of that strategy.
by isiddiqi on Nov 1, 2011 11:21 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I think EFX would like to see Tebow fail so they can draft their own QB.
I think they could get aboard the Tebow train if Tebow gave them a reason. We’re just not seeing much of that reason.
I hear Tim (and Orton for that matter) can’t hit open WRs consistently in practice.
It’s like basketball. If you can’t hit 60% of your open shots in an empty gym, you won’t hit close to 60% of them in a real game with defenders.
I was there!
Barkley
looks like the type who can excel with talent around him, unlike Kyle Orton
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
I am starting to buy on RGIII
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
After last game I can only imagine what it would feel like to have a real WB on the roster
I still sincerely hope TT could just improve, but that is wishful thinking in current environment.
by isiddiqi on Nov 1, 2011 11:17 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Me?
Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!
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by Troy Hufford on Nov 1, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
He hinted as much in the past.
It won’t surprise me but it means the growing pains start all over again. Whatever hyped up savior we draft will only be able to do so much and they don’t play every other position where we are sorely lacking.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
Yup, Stafford 2-14 his 1st year
Manning 3-13, Aikman 1-15, so on and so on. This team has A LOT of needs. 3 years is sounding like a quick turnaround now
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Yep, it is.....does anyone else have a hard time getting a read on Fox and Elway...mine changes with the wind....so hard to read!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
They definitely are playing this rebuild close to the vest.
Reminds me of when someone is bluffing…ALL THE TIME. It wouldn’t surprise me if the tell alls that get written in 20 years all say that money was the biggest issue in Dove Valley during these dark times.
Perseverance, secret of all triumph.
by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 1, 2011 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions
sure, but you’d need to add some juicy bits, too. the one that hasn’t been done in a long time is the old beatles “paul is dead” idea. like if shanahan got pissed about the ‘this one’s for john’ proclamation, masterminded a secret coup in which the real pat bowlen was replaced by a look-alike, somewhat glitchy robot who gets stuck on saying suspicious things like “(so and so) is the second greatest bronco of all times!”
mad scientist shanahan then has all organizational income funneled directly into his lavish cherry creek mansion-slash-steakhouse until the broncos are bone dry (ellis is only a pawn). at this point shanny purposely wires glitchy pat bowlen to fire him, his own creator, (see apple, Jobs) at the perfect moment, allowing the mastermind to move on to greener pastures where money flows like wine.
"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox
I think if Tebow plays better and we end up 8-8 we will go with him forward
But at the rate the team is playing Im getting ready to see Barkley, Jones, or this RG guy next year. Tebow will likely be successful on another team that gives him better support, ala Newton in Carolina
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Thank you for helping put this in perspective.
Not any rookie QB could have made the Brocnos look good Sunday.
Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.
Very few experienced good QBs would have looked good on Sunday
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
I watched a lot of Stafford in his first year
and for his whole career mind you…(I’m a closet Det fan). He was vastly superior to Tebow on an otherwise inferior team.
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
Will another team trade for Tebow?
Even the handful of teams who might be willing to take on the Tim Tebow Experience would probably just wait for the Broncos to cut him.
by Broncologist on Nov 1, 2011 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
It sounds to me that John Fox is going to make a 'pocket' passer out of Tim Tebow or bust a gut trying...
So Tebow’s the starter ‘for’ this week…What happens if we lose? Orton back in there? And, for what? Or would they put Quinn in there? Either way this season is just about over for any chances the Broncos might have so why not let Tebow finish it out and let him develop into that passer you want him to be? Quit threatening the him and the media and let them know that he is the guy!
This season and the job itself has gone so sideways on Fox, I don’t think he has a plan beyond this week. He is just biding his time until the off-season so he can start making real changes.
I was there!
Yeah, who really thought game manager Orton would regress that bad? I think the plan was to have Orton lead us to 8-8 or something like that, and let Tebow take over next year, with a full offseason under his belt
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Well, it was a dumb plan, but such is life when you have a lockout.
Be glad the 2012 draft is good at the top. We’ll need damn good scouts for rounds 2-7 because it’s not a great draft beyond the early picks.
I was there!
Yeah, Im mentally preparing myself to see another QB next year
This is the year that El-Fox show what they can do as far as scouting goes for the later rounds. Im still convinced that X is only a yes man and had little to do with last year’s draft
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
You could sense Quinn based on John's interview with Vic and Gary
by isiddiqi on Nov 1, 2011 11:25 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Quinn starts I wont be watching.....you think Tebow is bad...Quinn will be an unmitigated disaster...wish him well, but interest level will be very low.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Mike Silver says Quinn
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Mike Silver molests collies!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
By the way, why is the Geico caveman giving me that "hey sailor" look?
Not making me want to be a customer.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
They're trying to seduce you into buying their insurance
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Do not want the caveman buttsechs at any price.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
Not even for a 15% or more savings on car insurance?
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
apparently he sees something he likes in your shiny new dinosaur avatar…?
"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox
It's not gay if it's with Tebow.
Oh wait yes it is.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
maybe just go with state farm or something…
"Well, it's not like we signed him off the street..." — J. Fox
I went with Progressive. Flo is kinda hot in a 40 year old chick trying to look like a 20 year old hipster chick kinda way.
Definitely better looking than the caveman.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
Allstate's mayhem commercials reeled me in
There still hasn’t been one that didnt at least get a chuckle out of me.
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
I like the State Farm commercial with the supermodel new girlfriend
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 1, 2011 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Starting Quinn is idiotic and only proves this team is directionless
They haven’t been building towards anything since firing Shanahan. McDufus was an 18-month failed experiment in trying to convert what few assets the team had left into a win-now program.
Since firing any head coach less than 3 years into his tenure indicates it was a bad hiring to begin with, in the four years since Shanahan was here this team has, generally speaking, added no talent to what they had in 2007 and have regressed in several other areas. The Broncos are probably one of the worst three, if not worst over all, teams in the last 5 years at adding value via the draft.
Tebow is still a work in progress but at least it is a direction for this year to try and develop SOMETHING, anything. Giving Brady Quinn snaps is just throwing time away. Quinn will not be here next year and I’d say that other than our club nobody is even looking at him as a backup.
If they go to Quinn it proves they want to Suck for Luck.
by Tim Lynch on Nov 1, 2011 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
