Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 11/10/11
by Tim Lynch on Nov 10, 2011 10:01 AM MST
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Maybe I'm just being snippy,
But I’d like to know who those NFL players thought was “overrating” Tim Tebow. Fans? That’s the only possible group that I can see as being an answer. He sure isn’t overrated by the media. Over-discussed, perhaps – but definitely not overrated.
We are a crappy team, with some crappy players at every position.
Well Tony Romo is overrated by the Media.
I would guess its just the perception of the individual there.
No surprise seeing Sanchize on that list.
Loved seeing Suh on that list. He’s dirty.
Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
I loved how Kuper shut his ass down.
He’s living up to his contract.
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by CombatChuk on Nov 10, 2011 8:28 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Tony Romo is to up and down to be a good quarterback.
You never know what team he’;s playing for when he’s under pressure…
Tebow overrated?
I thought everyone thought he sucked? Players included.
Everyone says he can’t play — how can he be overrated and can’t play?
by NYCBronx on Nov 10, 2011 8:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
exactly. A lot of media attention even though he's sliced to smithereens....
and perhaps some jealousy of that attentiom
The KC Chiefs have had a roller coaster season much like our but different...
Listen to Sound FX where NFL films believed they were the real deal after trouncing the tRaiders the week before. In one part Todd Haley was tealling his ass’t to tell the players to quit ‘hob knobbing’ with the other players and get their heads in the game…The result was a painful lose to the lowly Miami Dolphins who hadn’t won a game all season. Haley’s attitude towards his players and the way he coaches leaves me to believe he is losing his locker room. Sure he isn’t afraid to go against the grain or the text book way, as we saw he do in preseason not playing his starters in the first game and then over playing them in the end. It’s go to be inovative, but there comesa time when common sense prevails…
What Chiefs team will show up this week? Go Broncos for improving every week and beating the tRaiders…
Todd Haley is a stooge
and the Broncos need to go in from the getgo and kick their trash!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 10, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
And there is something wrong with his finger
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by KaptainKirk on Nov 10, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5voqZkjdYZY
Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.
So out of nearly 1800 NFL players, 111 even answered that poll.
Very scientific. About 5-6% of players who would even allow themselves to be bothered with this poll don’t know what the word overrated means.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
Read "John" and "Tim" comments at the end of the "Tebow the most overrated..." article,
perhaps the most bizarre exchange I’ve ever read.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Nov 10, 2011 9:20 AM MST reply actions
What today's players use to grade someones worth is the money
they are making or generating. Tebow apparel and other merchandise fly off the shelves. I believe this is what they mean when they say he’s overrated. Money talks to these guys. If any of them were paying attention, it’s quite clear TT is negatively scrutinized at a level that I’ve never seen before in my 50 yrs of being a Bronco’s fan.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Nov 10, 2011 9:24 AM MST reply actions
This rating is nothing more than typical media BS
They cook this kind of crap up for idiots to read. Then I find myself reading it….
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
This Penn State nightmare is disturbing and most unfortunate, but it’s so very nice not having Tim Tebow be the focal point of everything football.
The peace and quiet around Tim & Denver this week has been much appreciated. MSM, please continue to leave us alone so we can rebuild like most teams (in relative obscurity).
Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
If the Broncos lose this Sunday we'll be the talk of the town again. Ugh
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
I doubt it. This Penn State thing is shaping into the worst sports scandal in history. ESPN seems to have turned its coverage towards Happy Valley (or not so Happy Valley).
Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
I have sworn off ESPN because of its coverage.
ESPN has crossed the line from sports reporting to editorializing with an agenda. Regardless of that agenda, it’s wrong.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 10, 2011 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
its beyond disturbing
i read the grand jury report and am beyong repulsed by all of them. Another piece that is strange to me is that the DA who was on the case later dissapeared never to be seen again. Still an unsolved mystery.
Seems like a Free Mason thing to me, with many layers and no answers.
Management needs to earn my faith, the past has taught me too much.
Denver at Kansas City
Here is an example of circuitous and false logic. A scribe tried to make the point that because the Broncos had beaten the Dolphins and the Dolphins had beaten the Chiefs last week, that the Chiefs should therefore should beat the Broncos on Sunday.
Anyone with an elementary standing of math can see how illogical this premise is. Instead the premise should be that the Broncos should beat the Chiefs. But in the NFL that kind of logic simply does NOT work.
We all know that the Broncos have won 2 of their last 3 games under Tebow and the Chiefs despite the Dolphins loss last Sunday have won 4 of their last 5 games played.
But if you ask most NFL coaches and sports’ pundits they will most often throw cold water on the idea of momentum in the NFL determining any particular game.
So if momentum is NOT the determining factor in the outcome of the game what will be? Here are 5 factors that imho will determine the outcome of the game;
a) Turnovers-who wins the net turnover battle; in case you haven’t kept track, Tebow has only been intercepted once this year while throwing 6 TD passes while Cassel has been intercepted 9 times while throwing 9 TD passes.
As a team over the entire season the Chiefs are -1 in turnovers while the Broncos are -5 but with Tebow at the helm starting the Broncos are 0 in the past 3 games.
b) The health of the respective teams. There is word now that the Broncos will be healthier this week than they have been for a long time.
c) How do the defenses of the Broncos and the Chiefs stack up against the run?
Broncos: 115.5 yards/game
Chiefs: 120.2 yards/game
d) Home field advantage
e) Red zone conversion
For the last 3 games:
Denver Broncos (under Tebow):3 out 6 (50%)
KC Chiefs: 3 out of 8 (37.5%)
Conclusion:
If not for the home field advantage to the Chiefs, I would give the Broncos the slight edge. But since the Chiefs are playing at home the fact that the oddsmakers have made the Chiefs a 3 point favorite is NOT out of line.
But the unknown factor is how duplicatable is the “read offense” and can the KC defense which has only had a week to prepare for it really stop Tebow? If they can prevent Tebow from getting more than 50 yards in rushing and cause him to throw a pick or two, KC will win, but if KC allows Tebow to rush for over 100 yards with no picks I really believe Denver has an excellent chance to prevail.
Good points techno but I do agree with the point spread that we get 3.
I certainly hope Tebow does not need 100 yrs rushing for the team to win,
This game is going
to give us a much better idea of how much Tebow’s passing skills have improved. This could be Decker’s breakout game with DThomas right behind him. Is it Sunday yet?
Don't forget to add in one little stat.
Chiefs are dead last in sacks in the NFL…9 all season.
I don’t think Tebow will be under the intense pressure we have seen without the Chief paying a price.
tim sounds a bit like forrest gump when he talks lol
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
too much truth to that.....
run forrest run
Management needs to earn my faith, the past has taught me too much.
even though the broncos were super effective in running the ball against oakland, their playcalling was just too predictable and rather boring. they need to open it up in the passing game. i am still waiting for tebow to throw over 250 yards, which i firmly believe he is capable of. it wasn’t just his running skills that made him remarkable at florida. it was his ability as a passer, first and foremost.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
A rule in sports
If something is working, stay with it until the opposition can stop it.
The “read option” is more than a temporary solution or gimmick. It is a legitimate offensive strategy that should NOT be dismissed.
Dare the Chiefs to stop it. The Broncos should stay unconventional imho.
by technopeasant on Nov 10, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
I remember back in '98 we'd run the same stretch run over and over and over and over....
Opposing defenses just couldn’t stop it.
by Tim Lynch on Nov 10, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Or the "Denver Toss"
I remember that play absolutely killing people every time. Granted, TD probably had a lot to do with its success, but I remember just how brutally effective that play was.
We are a crappy team, with some crappy players at every position.
by TheMorseFile on Nov 10, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
I would
like to see some sort of PA pass off the read option, especially early to keep em honest
Release the Tebow!
So it's boring
to win 38-24? Sorry, no offense, but I have to call that a bad take
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 10, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
Well...
I’ll take a boring win over an exciting loss. But that’s just me.
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..."
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