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Tim Tebow talks to Broncos TV about his comfort level as a pro quarterback, the offense's success against Oakland and preparing for another divisional road game.

Broncos follow trend to maximize Tebow's ability - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
The Denver Broncos may have looked as if they invented the NFL version of the read-option offense last Sunday against the Oakland Raiders, but what head coach John Fox, offensive coordinator Mike McCoy, and the rest of the team’s coaching staff installed to get the most out of quarterback Tim Tebow’s(notes) abilities was actually one more point in a narrative line.

Broncos' offensive coordinator McCoy calling the shots - The Denver Post
Mike McCoy had one big, and very painful, reason to be wary of running the option offense. When McCoy thinks "option," his mind drifts back to that September day in 1993, when, as the quarterback for the University of Utah, he ran the option play for the first — and only — time.

Broncos need to have flexibility off their read option vs. Chiefs - The Denver Post
Given that December has been the unkindest month to the Broncos in their annual visit to Arrowhead Stadium, perhaps a 3-5 team looking for its first two-game winning steak in almost two years

Notes: Woodyard Practices; Broncos Mix Up the Defensive Looks | MaxDenver.com
Wesley Woodyard returned to practice Friday for the first time since injuring his knee against the Raiders last Sunday, but only worked on a limited basis and is questionable for Sunday.

Broncos' Miller fined $15,000 for hit on Raiders' QB Carson Palmer | First-and-Orange
Broncos linebacker Von Miller was fined $15,000 by the NFL for his fourth quarter hit on Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer last Sunday.

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Head Coach John Fox gives the week's final injury report and talks about the significance of Veterans Day.

Sounds from the Locker Room | DenverBroncos.com
Hear Champ Bailey, Von Miller, Brian Dawkins, Willis McGahee and Eric Decker talk about this weekend's matchup against the Chiefs.

NFL.com news: Tebow's heart will go on: 'I can't focus on the naysayers'
Tim Tebow hears the icy words, the criticism -- and the acclaim, too -- but he's not about to change for anyone else. His priorities in life are set, and they don't include pandering to the masses.

Craig Daily Press / Broncos meet Chiefs in key AFC West showdown
Tim Tebow doesn’t understand why he’s such a polarizing figure, why some fans love him and so many others loath him.

Q&A: "Playoff contender" a relative term for Broncos, AFC West - The Denver Post
Todays question comes from William S.: I have read all kinds of things since the Broncos win over the Raiders. Can the Broncos honestly be talking about the playoffs?

Fantasy Spotlight: Broncos' McGahee good for another 100-yard game - The Denver Post
Stopping the zone-read is all about maintaining discipline using a zone front. I expect Kansas City to try that look defensively this week, but it doesnt have the players capable of slowing down the Broncos ground game.

Bailey will have his hands full with Chiefs' Dwayne Bowe - The Denver Post
On his last trip to Kansas City, Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey added a career highlight to a resume that already includes a record 10 Pro Bowl trips.

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Defensive Leaders Making Their Mark | DenverBroncos.com
With Elvis Dumervil's 1.5 sacks and Champ Bailey's two interceptions last week, Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen likes the direction his defense his heading.

Champ Bailey And Dwayne Bowe Meet Again In Kansas City - Predominantly Orange
Champ Bailey has covered two big receivers in Brandon Marshall and Calvin Johnson this season. However, perhaps no receiver is as crucial to stop as Dwayne Bowe is this weekend in Kansas City.

Broncos vs. Chiefs: Game Preview - Predominantly Orange
The Denver Broncos (3-5) are on the road again this week to take on the Kansas City Chiefs (4-4). With a win, the Broncos could move into a tie for second place in the AFC West. They are looking to win their second game in a row which has not been done since 2009.

NFL Week 10 Picks: Can Denver Broncos Prove Experts Wrong? - SB Nation Denver
With quarterback Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos (3-5) set to take on the Kansas City Chiefs (4-4) on the road in Week 10 of the NFL season, more experts are weighing in with their picks. Here's a look at the most recent predictions.

NFL News

HGH testing still on hold | National Football Post
It sure sounded good at the time. As part of the new ten-year agreement between the NFL and its players, a pioneering testing plan would begin: players would be tested for human growth hormone (HGH).

Phil B’s Top Ten NFL rankings — Pack ‘n’ Niners | Colts blog
At least the San Francisco 49ers keep winning, which means there’s almost a 1B to the Green Bay Packers at 1A. Well, almost.

Teams around the NFL believe they have found the blueprint for stopping Patriots' | masslive.com
There are whispers spreading throughout the war rooms in NFL cities that a blueprint to combat the New England Patriots' high-powered offensive attack now exists.

Tampa Bay NFL Blackout Shows Need to End FCC Policy, Groups Say - Bloomberg
U.S. regulators should void a rule that keeps professional sports contests, including National Football League games, off cable and satellite television when stadiums aren’t sold out, five groups said.

Denver Broncos Fans

Tim Tebow, the unconventional quarterback, has company - Mile High Report
Throughout history there have been many men and women who have been scorned and ridiculed for being different, pursuing a different path than others, or performing a certain skill in a different way and eventually society has come to the conclusion that their iconoclasm actually was of benefit or was successful.

The Tale of Two Teams - Mile High Report
As we head into this funny weekend I think we both face a couple 'sometimes tough' teams. KC is funny all-around, one week good one week bad, and the both bad and good. Funny syndrome! If I knew how to spell "Jeckle adn Hyde" I would use that as an example for both. Both teams we face remind me of my Broncos right now...ain't got a clue what I'm about to watch.

Denver’s playoff run just got a bit tougher. - Mile High Report
Denver is just one game out of First place in the West. This is really good news knowing what our past has looked like.  Denver will have full control of its own destiny which is something that hasn’t been said in quite some time. Denver’s remaining schedule is going to push this young team but one that can win us the Division.

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OC Mike McCoy!

Boy, did they do some pback peddling after the Lions game. McCoy got his head out of his butt and began to do damage control with the offense doing like we said he should be doing when Tim Tebow fist took over. Making the offense doable with read-option that fits what Tebow was doing in college. Whether it will beat every team is to be seen, but I like what McCoy IS finally doing to win. Tebow could develop out of this system and become the pocket passer they hope he will be down the road…

Von Miller fined? The NFL is desperate…

I hope WW is OK to play this week, we need ya fella. Or would Mike Mohamed take his place?

Looks like “I thought I died for a second” might get to play this week after sustaining a wicked hit of his own man on the very first play of the game last Sunday…Get well #26 we need you…

Beating the tRaiders and the Chiefs all in 8 days will be the best thing this team had done in years! It could happen, stay tuned….

by bfree2bronc on Nov 12, 2011 9:03 AM MST reply actions  

After we got crushed by Detroit and Tebow was 1-1 as the worst 1st round pick in NFL history and worst QB to ever play in the leauge. A few of us wrote how crazy it would be if Tebow was 3-1 just 14 days later.

Well, we are half way there.

And I still think Marcus Nash, Middlebrooks and Jarvis Moss were worse 1st round picks. To name a few of hundreds.

Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?

by McGeorge on Nov 12, 2011 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

his win over the raiders won him one more start in Kansas City

if he beats KC, it will earn him 2 more starts, regardless of the Jets game.

If he plays well against the Jets, regardless of the outcome, he will earn 2 more starts.

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Personally, I think he's earned the rest of the season already.

It makes no sense to not keep travelling down this road we’ve set out upon. Either it ends in a QB in the 2012 draft or it ends with Tebow as the QB in 2012.

by Tim Lynch on Nov 12, 2011 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree that I would like him to keep going through the remainder of the season

BUT, I don’t think they’re giving him that long of a leash. If he plays atrocious like verse the Lions for a couple games – that will be the end of it IMO.

I am rooting for the kid to develop and keep his job though, even for next year. It would be nice for my kids to look up to him – the NFL needs Tebow more than Tebow needs the NFL.

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

That was honestly the way 2011 should have started. Great shame we wasted TC and 25% of the season on Orton.

whichever idiot at Dove Valley keeps leaking how awful Tebow is and how Denver dodged a bullet in not trading Kyle…. well that idiot needs to go. Even if it’s Elway.

Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?

by McGeorge on Nov 12, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions   2 recs

+1

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

If I was a betting man

My money says he’s now playing his home games in Missouri, but who knows.

"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe

by CH74 on Nov 12, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

heh, he does have his worshipers

Q: Why was Todd Haley upset when the Kansas City Chiefs play book
was stolen?
A: Because he hadn't finished coloring it.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Afraid my money is on Elway in this one.

Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?

by McGeorge on Nov 12, 2011 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I can see that

however I also think Elway likes Tim, he juts wants to draft his own, plain and simple.

He may not be able to draft one as high though, if Tim keeps playing well, thus will probably work with Tebow a bit more going forward.

I was shocked when Elway was reported as playing catch with Tebow during week 2 or 3 – which tells you they probably had a heart to heart and Elway mentored him a bit.

If Tim keeps playing well, Elway will roll with Tebow. He won’t have any other choice really.

Q: Why was Todd Haley upset when the Kansas City Chiefs play book
was stolen?
A: Because he hadn't finished coloring it.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

We shall see. I’m far from sold on Elway’s role with this team and if he is ready/capable to be a Front Office leader in the NFL. Maybe he can, but if it becomes apparent that he is not fit.. Denver better cut bait as quickly as they did with Josh.

Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?

by McGeorge on Nov 12, 2011 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm not certain he is ready or capable myself

although if he keeps the drafts going like last season, it’s a good indication we’re on our way up and out of the hole we dug ourselves into.

I think Bowlen has a mancrush on Elway, just like the rest of Broncos Country does. That’s all because of what he meant to us as a player, however. I would venture 60% of the people out there are sold on him because of what he did mean in the 80’s and 90’s to us.

I think Elway is that son Bowlen always wanted – I think he wants to leave the team to Elway when his health declines, or when he passes.

He brought Elway up the right way, by placing him in a smaller teams (semi-pro) front office and having him run that. Elway won a couple championships on that team in the front office. Running the front office in the nfl can’t be that much different, except your office has more funding, thus more people running it, and you have more talent to draw from in drafts and on the open market.

I’m willing to give Elway a few years to see which way he’s leading this team. I’m more sold on Elway than I am Fox. I think Fox is more or less a temporary coach in order to get us back into check – after that – they’ll bring in my cousin (Dennison)- I’m sure of it!

Q: Why was Todd Haley upset when the Kansas City Chiefs play book
was stolen?
A: Because he hadn't finished coloring it.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Rick Dennison is ready for a head coaching job

the man is intense!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

If John learned anything

From his father, he’ll be fine. By the accounts I’ve seen, Jack had a great eye for talent.

"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe

by CH74 on Nov 12, 2011 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Jack Elway and Archie Manning

are probably the greatest talent evaluators of all time!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I personally have no problem with how Elway has handled team affairs so far, but that doesn't give him a pass either...

I think Elway’s ability to assess players comes with how he had to gameplan and study different positions. There was mentioned at one time that he evaluated OLinemen and DBs. I don’t know where the article came from or where it is now, I just bring that from memory. Being a quarterback, one would think he would have plenty of knowledge of what a QB should possess to be successful, but in Tebow’s case, this is trully a rare event and different quality…

by bfree2bronc on Nov 12, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Playing QB

Gives him great insight into the nuances of the entire offense. On defense, Elway has Fox to sort of lean on and fill in any gaps. So far, the 2011 draft has produced more talented rookies than we have seen in Denver in quite some time. I am pretty sure Elway evaluated Franklin. He’s the one that was comparing him to Zimmerman as far as nastiness. If Franklin has that much potential, fans need to let up on him and give the line a bit more time to gel.

Tebow is an oddity and a rarity. He has those things you look for as a leader and he has some tools you look for in a passer. What Elway has to decide is if he has enough of those tools as a passer to build on. As much as the fans want that answered now, I am not sure we are going to get a clear answer until they spend time with him in the offseason. Right now, we’re winging it with Tebow and a lot of that goes back to the preseason and the first four games we were stuck with Orton.

"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe

by CH74 on Nov 12, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions  

My money is on Rain Man

ERRR Xanders

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Was Darius Watts a first-rounder too? He sucked

the worst #17 in franchise history

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

round 2. but yeah, he really sucked. Most teams had him rated as round 7 so Shanny blew that one.

Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?

by McGeorge on Nov 12, 2011 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Mohamed is on the practice squad, so unless they are willing to cut someone to make a spot for him he wouldn’t be playing. My guess is if Woodyard can’t go they are pondering either leaving Mays in on nickel snaps or having Carter come in as SS (assuming Moore is starting) and Dawkins move into a LB role for the nickel.

by poorboywilly on Nov 12, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I was glad to see Aaron Curry was fined $20,000 for his hit on Tebow that somehow went unflagged.

Well the NFL flagged it all right. Good job NFL.

Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?

by McGeorge on Nov 12, 2011 9:11 AM MST reply actions  

I agree

I also agree on fining Miller for his hit on Palmer. It was a pretty brutal hit and it was about 2 or 3 clicks after Palmer launched it, Miller just didn’t notice for some reason. Miller isn’t a dirty player though, so it wasn’t on purpose I’m sure.

Miller should ask for a reduction for this since it was his first offense (that I can recall). Turn that 15k fine into 7k!

Q: Where do you go in Miami in case of hurricane?
A: To Dolphin Stadium - they never get a touchdown there.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

I was not surprised to see the fine for Miller.

Tim Tebow's career record is 3-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER!!!! He is embarrassing!!! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?

by McGeorge on Nov 12, 2011 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

not sure

I think so, they said it was hit in his head/neck area

but he took a couple pops by different Raiders, I just can’t recall..

Q: Why was Todd Haley upset when the Kansas City Chiefs play book
was stolen?
A: Because he hadn't finished coloring it.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Could have been. There probably should have been three Raiders fines…one of the Raiders put the crown of his head into Tebow’s temple, which I thought was the worst hit of the day. They fined for the hit where Moss (I think) grabbed his neck and slammed him down. I’m not sure which one the second fine was for.

by poorboywilly on Nov 12, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Commissioner Goodell is good at fining people

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

as probably one of the best Yahoo has ever done actually

I’m okay with our QB running the option, it will only open up the pass in the game for him where he can set his feet.

Q: Why was Todd Haley upset when the Kansas City Chiefs play book
was stolen?
A: Because he hadn't finished coloring it.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

especially for play action

Q: Why was Todd Haley upset when the Kansas City Chiefs play book
was stolen?
A: Because he hadn't finished coloring it.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

anytime Royal does something good, it's beautiful!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Yahoo has a couple decent analysts (in this case it’s Farrar, who actually knows what he is talking about) but much of what they do is pure sensationalism. Like ESPN. Michael Silver e.g. is awful—he’s always writing these speculative articles with quotes from unnamed sources seemingly just for the sake of getting fans riled up. And then blame the fans for overreacting.

by poorboywilly on Nov 12, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Silver baits me on Twitter

he just likes ruffling my feathers

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah he's such a homer for the Raiders too

Even after getting shut out at home by KC, he still had em top ten. Only after they got beat by the Broncos did he drop em to 16th. Now that they’ve beat SD Im sure they’ll be top ten again

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Nov 12, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Guess who the major interviewee was on

Al Davis a Football Life, if you guessed Michael Silver, you get my applause and a bunch of Twinkies!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll e-mail you my address for said Twinkies

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Nov 13, 2011 7:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Anyone else have a good feeling about tomorrows game?

If Tebow can keep defenders distracted, or thinking about his runs. It could open a lot of holes.

by Kronis on Nov 12, 2011 10:03 AM MST reply actions  

I'm actually half tempted to throw down a bet on this game in favor of the Broncos.

Q: Why was Todd Haley upset when the Kansas City Chiefs play book
was stolen?
A: Because he hadn't finished coloring it.

by Broncs55 on Nov 12, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Contrary to NFLNetworks belief, I think we should win this game...

The Chiefs are terrible on offense and I don’t think our defense is going to let down their guard and give Cassel the keys to the kingdom…That boy will be fighting for his life before the half is over.

Now, I’m not sure how successful Tebow and the offense will be, bec ause I count the Chiefs defense better than their offense. We may struggle to muster 17 points in this one, so, I’m hoping our defense gets some of the take aways we’ve been missing this season…Its about time…

by bfree2bronc on Nov 12, 2011 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

NFL Playbook gets worse and worse

as the season progresses, it’s a shame

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 12, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

NFLN is geared more towards the casual fan.

High on entertainment and low on substance. Us hardcore fans end up sticking to blogging.

by Tim Lynch on Nov 12, 2011 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

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