Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 11/14/11
by Tim Lynch on Nov 14, 2011 7:54 AM MST
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Field level highlights and broadcast audio from the team's 17-10 win against Kansas City.
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The Broncos rushing attack racks up 244 total yards in a 17-10 road win over the Chiefs.
Broncos defeat Chiefs 17-10, winning back-to-back games for first time since 2009 - The Denver Post
In an NFL game Sunday that set football back at least to the height of the Woody Hayes-Bo Schembechler rivalry in the 1970s, the Broncos defeated the Kansas City Chiefs 17-10 at Arrowhead Stadium.
Tebow leads Broncos to 17-10 win vs. Chiefs – USATODAY.com
Tim Tebow remains a model of imperfection, his passes as likely to hit dirt as an intended receiver. Sunday, the Denver Broncos all but shut his left arm down.
Broncos use variety of looks to keep run-first offense fresh - The Denver Post
Wilt Chamberlain once said nobody cheers for Goliath. And those who have lived by the run through the years have had a chip on their shoulders about their way of doing things.
Michael Vick-led Eagles blow yet another fourth-quarter lead; Tom Brady, Patriots win - Peter King - SI.com
Tim Tebow came, he saw, he ran the Veer, he conquered. On a gorgeous 67-degree day in Kansas City with weather being no factor, the Denver Broncos completed two passes, never trailed and forged a three-way tie for second place in the mighty AFC West. Denver 17, Kansas City 10. Victories since Oct. 23: Tebow 3, Tom Brady/Michael Vick/Philip Rivers (combined) 2.
Denver Broncos News
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Hear the players' reactions from the locker room after Denver's win over the Chiefs.
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Head Coach John Fox talks about Denver's 17-10 win over Kansas City.
Broncos at Chiefs: Tebow | DenverBroncos.com
Quarterback Tim Tebow talks about Denver's victory in Kansas City.
NFL Videos: Believe in Tebow?
Is it time to put your faith in Tim Tebow? Deion Sanders and Michael Irvin discuss the Broncos QB in this week's edition of "Bump-n-Run."
NFL Videos: GameDay: Broncos vs. Chiefs highlights
Despite losing their top two running backs to injury early on, Tim Tebow and the Broncos came away with a 17-10 win vs. the Chiefs on the road.
Broncos vs. Chiefs - Recap - November 13, 2011 - NFL - Football - SI.com
The former Heisman Trophy winner connected with Eric Decker on a 56-yard touchdown pass in the fourth quarter, helping the Denver Broncos beat the Kansas City Chiefs 17-10 despite playing almost the entire game without their top two running backs.
Tim Tebow, Lance Ball lead heavy ground attack for Broncos vs. Chiefs - Don Banks - SI.com
Too bad it wasn't Throwback Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, because John Fox's time-warping Broncos would have fit right in.
Sorting the Sunday Pile: Week 10 - CBSSports.com
If I told you that Tim Tebow would go two of eight passing on Sunday while Willis McGahee and Knowshon Moreno left the game early with an injury, you'd assume that a) the Chiefs rolled the Broncos and b) Tebow got benched. You would not assume what actually happened, which is that the Broncos beat Kansas City 17-9 to hand the Chiefs their second-straight inexplicable victory.
Krieger: History repeating itself with Denver Broncos' run-first plan - The Denver Post
Dont look now, but the Broncos could be a playoff team.
Kiszla: Tebow sticks with secrecy about big pass play - The Denver Post
Refusing to reveal the secret, quarterback Tim Tebow nervously tugged on his tie in the locker room and zipped his lip. The Broncos needed to drop one, and only one, perfect pass on Kansas City to win 17-10. All I wanted to know was the name of the dang play.
Mellinger: Chiefs hit rock bottom against Denver 'dogs' - The Denver Post
The worst loss of what is again a miserable Chiefs season has an organization on tilt. Players are angrier. Openly questioning themselves.
Chiefs say this loss to Broncos will sting for a while - The Denver Post
Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson stood in the locker room after another disappointment. Another home loss to a struggling team.
Broncos' young O-line showing big improvement - The Denver Post
Way back in October, the Broncos offensive line was getting knocked for not protecting the quarterback, for not having the strength to move goal-line piles, for not blocking well enough to win.
Broncos' defense starting to jell - The Denver Post
John Elway stood in the corner of the Broncos locker room Sunday afternoon, sandwiched between Elvis Dumervil and D.J. Williams, two of the Broncos most veteran defenders.
Broncos' Tim Tebow already prepping for New York Jets - The Denver Post
Tim Tebow has had plenty of firsts already in his time as a starter this season, but this week will be another. With the players getting Monday off, the team will have only two full practice days before facing the Jets on Thursday night at Sports Authority Field at Mile High.
Denver Broncos Blogs
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Defense pressures Cassel; Run game fuels offense; Tebow getting comfortable.
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Lance Ball set career highs in carries and rushing yardage to pace Denver's rushing attack in its 17-10 win over Kansas City.
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On the strength of 244 rushing yards, the Broncos defeated the Kansas City Chiefs 17-10 at Arrowhead Stadium.
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In an unexpected, roundabout way, Tim Tebow has proved John Elway to be prophetic.
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An unusual win like Sunday’s at Arrowhead Stadium here brings out a myriad of emotions — none angry, mind you, but decidedly mixed from the sample of Broncos Country that responded to our Six Words tweet as the final gun sounded.
Broncos 17, Chiefs 10: By the Numbers | MaxDenver.com
The media that covers the Broncos hasn’t heard that quote, but in Carolina this was a staple of John Fox press conferences every time a positive number was thrown his way in the days after a defeat.
Broncos 17, Chiefs 10: Three Observations | MaxDenver.com
Three observations from the Broncos’ 17-10 win over the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium here on Sunday.
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The Kansas City Chiefs dropped a tough one against the Denver Broncos on Sunday in Kansas City by a score of 17-10. I went ahead and charted the Chiefs personnel packages each play and the results from those plays in a hope to find some useful information.
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There's not much to say about the Kansas City Chiefs loss to the Denver Broncos. (I take that back. I just wrote a few hundred words about this game.) The defense wasn't at their best considering Tim Tebow and Co. just passed twice but the offense gets more of the blame in this one.
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The Kansas City Chiefs knew what was coming, even after the Denver Broncos’ top two running backs went down with injuries. Their AFC West rivals were going to keep running behind Tim Tebow until the Chiefs proved they could stop them.
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It looked to be something out of a rough-and-tumble contest between the 1920 Canton Bulldogs and the Dayton Triangles — a 10-0 game at the half, with the winning team completing a grand total of zero passes on four attempts, and leading by rushing for 169 yards.
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Tim Tebow believers have always viewed him as a miracle worker, and after the Broncos' 17-10 win over the Kansas City Chiefs yesterday, they've got more inexplicable evidence to support their argument.
Completion Rate Not A Concern For Broncos' Tebow - Predominantly Orange
You might think that a quarterback’s 2-for-8 completion rate would make his head hang low. Not Tim Tebow.
Broncos Run To Victory Over Chiefs With John Fox's Game Plan - Predominantly Orange
Running away from your problems never works, but in football, running into, around, and over them is most acceptable. John Fox knows that with running the football, you get out of it what you put into it.
Tebow not connecting, but winning - AFC West Blog - ESPN
Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow did nothing in the first half to help prove he can be an effective NFL passer.
NFL News
Everything You Need to Know: Week 10 – Audibles - SI.com
Amazingly, it took Tim Tebow until the third quarter to complete his first pass and until the mid-point of the fourth to hit pass No. 2. Even more amazingly, that second completion came on a 3rd-and-10 with Denver clinging to a 10-7 lead and went for a 56-yard touchdown to Eric Decker.
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Bill Belichick and Tom Brady already have their names in the NFL record books, but the three-time Super Bowl champions added another achievement to their historic careers on Nov. 13, becoming the winningest coach-QB tandem since the AFC/NFC merger in 1970.
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The Juan Castillo's Philadelphia Eagles and Michael Vick collapse again, Tony Romo leads Dallas Cowboys past Buffalo Bills, and Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets fall to Tom Brady New England Patriots.
NFL.com news: Chemistry experiment blows up in the face of Reid, Eagles
John Fox, head coach of the Denver Broncos, is in the business of trying to win football games any way he can and after this week I realize he's willing to turn his clock back 30 years to get it done.
Jason Gay: Could Green Bay Win by Losing? - WSJ.com
The defending Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers are undefeated. But the question now becomes: Is it healthier for a great team to suffer a few defeats?
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The San Francisco 49ers are for real. Can the same now be said about Alex Smith? Not quite. One strong performance doesn’t erase 6 1/2 seasons of disappointment that comes with being the underachieving first overall pick of the 2005 NFL Draft.
WalterFootball.com: Week 9 NFL Game Recaps | WalterFootball.co,
Has an NFL team ever won a game without completing a pass? Yes, actually, it's been done before. The Broncos nearly accomplished that feat at Arrowhead; Tim Tebow completed two balls in the victory.
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The New York Jets loss at home last night against the Patriots was another example of why the team won’t make the playoffs this season. The sickness continues. Offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer needs a trip to the doctor’s office.
Denver Broncos Fans
Broncos vs Chiefs Studs and Duds - Mile High Report
Another game. Another dominant rushing performance. Another victory. I could get used to this winning thing. For the first time since 2009, the Broncos won back to back games after beating the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead by a score of 17-10. The talk of the day was undoubtedly the fact that Tim Tebow only threw 8 passes and completed just 2 of them. We are going to talk about all that and much more so let's jump into the Studs and Duds.
The Broad side of a Barn - Mile High Report
The Denver Broncos came to town One early November Day.... In arrowhead stadium, they stood Inviting the Chiefs to play.....
Hello Again and Then Some Apples to Apples - Mile High Report
First off, Hello Again! I'm going to open with a past game, tell you why, and then we'll move on to what I consider to be the best comparison we should be making when it comes to The Tebow. I gotta hit the shower and head out to watch the UFC match tonight, so sorry in advance if there are extra typos and whatnot...
BRONCOS @ CHIEFS BY THE NUMBERS, Tebow stats, and other thoughts - Mile High Report
Here are the week 10 numbers for both Tim Tebow and our Offense. I’ll include some breakdowns after the numbers, but I want to say it feels damn good for our TEAM to go on the road two weeks in a row and physically dominate our hated AFC west rivals!!! Great win guys!!!
It's The New York Jets, Not The Boogie Man - Mile High Report
I’ll leave for others to argue and debate the fashion in which the Denver Broncos got their win on Sunday afternoon. As with the players and coaches, my mind is already in Mile High Stadium where the New York Jets will be visiting for a nationally televised Thursday Night showdown. Each team will have just three short days to prepare and only two of those will be full practices.
I wanted more passing too, but let's count our Blessings.... - Mile High Report
So during the live game thread I was very angry about the lack of passing plays called for a couple reasons. First, when you don't score at every early opportunity on the road you generally don't win. I also am a member of the church of Tebow but the Broncos are are and always be my top priority.
HOW DOOOOO! - Mile High Report
I know that Nick Cast is going to write a great post this week but I can't help but share some opinions right now. Right now I'm feeling kind of like Emile Hirsch in the movie Into The Wild standing on top of that snow covered mountain with Eddie Vedder music blaring in the back ground, hands spread wide and the sun beating down on my face.
Like Our Own "Batman", I'm Baack.. But This One Is Actually About "Robin" - Mile High Report
Well boys, I think we certainly got this one right. A few of us were calling Von Miller "special" and "elite" before he even stepped foot on the field - not just saying someday, but clearly saying he’d be immediately elite. That's ballsy. I've never used the word about any rookie like that before. I'm sure neither have you guys. Still, it looks like we got this one right.
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A two game winning steak? Being happy about Bronco football two consecutive Monday’s? I totally forgot what that felt like.
Turns out, it feels awesome.
Go Broncos. Does Von Miller have a fan club I can join?
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
sorry.
winning streak… but a steak is good too. Today is a good day. Good good good.
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
I'm so down for a winning steak right now
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 8:35 AM MST up reply actions
Best steaks I ever eat were Colorado & Wyoming steaks
Oh man do you Yanks do the best Steak sandwiches or what.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 8:56 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Happy Monday McGeorge
You have been saying for a long time that KC’s 1st round defensive lineman picks were not very good, and I think the Broncos emphatically proved your point yesterday. How bad does it suck for the Chiefs to get beat like that? People are making fun of Denver for turning the NFL back 30 years, but why not if the lame ass Chiefs can’t stop it?
Interesting stats at the bottom of one of DPs articles
show the lowest passing attempts in Denver’s games from the past and in every one of those games that had low passing attempts in them the team recorded a win….hmmm. Perhaps having a strong running game is not such a bad thing after all. (just ask John Elway)
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by rubincarterrocks on Nov 14, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
+1
Gaff and Lloyd both worked with TT in the off season. It would be nice if we still had one of them.
That Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey are two of the highest paid D-linemen in the NFL is good fun for me. Both of them are below average starters, esp Jackson. And Dorsey left on a cart yesterday.
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
I don't get the bashing on the Offense yesterday
I overheard a conversation at work. People were bashing the lack of a passing attack this morning. And when I said, “you don’t need to pass when you are averaging 5 yards per carry” they laughed at me.
Can someone honestly explain this to me? If something is working, why stray? It’s the other teams job to stop it! If McCoy and Fox saw something in KC where they said, “you know what? We can run it 45+ times and have success”. Then why not do it? Plus with another game in a few days, why not tote the rock and save our defense along with not expelling much energy from our skill positions.
I’m serious, please help me understand, because I honestly don’t get it.
I think it was fine Yesterday against the Chiefs and it worked, but sometimes you are gonna have to put more than 17 points on the board.
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think it was fine, I think it was awesome.
What could be more discouraging than having the other team continually blow your defense off the line and ram the ball right down your throat. I would not have wanted to watch that game yesterday if I was a Chief’s fan.
you act like we killed them
we won by 7. Yes im happy we won, but people are treating a 7 point victory like an absolute thrashing
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
We would have won by 13 if dipshit Prater could kick
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
maybe more if the refs would actually call the game right
like the PI against Royal, and the “PI’s” against Dawk and DJ
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
The final score
Was not very indicative of how bad we beat them. There was a six point swing there in garbage time. Denver owned the LOS for the majority of the game! When you only have to complete two forward passes to secure a victory, that is dominance. KC only had one good drive and couldn’t even get a touchdown when we were playing prevent.
"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe
only 7?
score was not indicative of how much domination was there.
Wait…did I just use domination and score in the same sentence?
Week 10 passer ratings
Tim Tebow 102.6 0 interceptions
Quarterbacks yesterday and Thursday with a worse passer rating and more interceptions
Cassell 66.5 0
Rivers 72.5 1
Gabbert 77.1 1
Painter 40.1 2
Freeman 33.6 3
Hasselbeck 79.1 1
Newton 61.7 1
Bradford 71.8 1
McCoy 97.5 0
Flacco 67.4 1
T Jackson 88.0 0
Stafford 47.4 4
Cutler 68.5 0
Ryan 81.5 1
Roethlisberger 83.5 1
Dalton 61.8 2
Skelton 82.8 2
Vick 32.5 2
Fitzpatrick 46.6 3
Grossman 58.7 2
Moore 75.2 1
E Manning 84.5 2
A Smith 85.7 1
Sanchez 64.7 2
Out of the 30 starting QB’s who have played so far in week 10, 24 of them have had a lower passer rating than Tebow and of these 24 only 4 of them failed to throw a pick.
For anyone to suggest Tebow is the worst starting QB in the NFL currently is simply wrongheaded and indicative that one has an agenda.
After watching the game yesterday, Matt Cassel might be the worst starting QB. The Redskins QB of the week, Josh Freeman and Colt or nipping at his heels.
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
Thats kinda what I thought
thats like a punter who completed a fake punt being placed at the top of the list
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 9:13 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
COME ON!
Are we really this stupid?
Let’s see how Tebow’s rating is when he attempts 30 passes. God I wish people would GET REAL. I love Tebow, but GET REAL.
by Tim Lynch on Nov 14, 2011 9:34 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Tim, I don't think anyone's stupid but there are other things to consider...
Tebow got only 8 passing attempts per game average in 8 quarters of his last 4 games. Against the 23rd veraged passing defense in the league.
Tebow had over 40 pass plays against the Lions 5th best passing defense in the league.
Does Fox plan on passing it 40 times next week, against the 6th best passing defense; while abandoning the run like they did against the Lions in the first half?
Point is giving Tebow only 4 passing attempts a half does not lend itself to Tebow increasing his completion percentage, especially when most pass are a high risk deep pass play rather than the high percentage pass plays Orton threw seemingly 99% of the time.
Yesterday, with the lead they had….would have been a perfect time to ‘practice’ rythm and chemistry with the recievers we have left, This is where blance comes into play. At least that’s what I was yelling for.
Gaff and Lloyd both worked with TT in the off season. It would be nice if we still had one of them.
I was referring to using QB Rating as a point to show how great Tebow is.
That is where the COME ON comes from. If I could have rolled my eyes any harder I would have gone blind.
c'mon, I think Cassell would trade all of his passes for Tebows 2 completions, the win and QB rating! QB rating is
as much about how the team did as it is about the QBs passing ability.
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by rubincarterrocks on Nov 14, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
Conversely, are we really learning anything from Tebow?
I still don’t know if he can play QB long term. Eventually, this type of offense will be stopped…just like the Wildcat with the Dolphins.
I think so.
It appears that he is doing a little better with dropping back from behind center, and is showing the ability to change the play before the snap as well as make split second decisions.
I also think that going to the run so often is stalling his development as a passer, that being said, I don’t think we will truly know if he can develop into a decent passer until he has had a full off-season with the 1st team offense.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
by Thnikkaman on Nov 14, 2011 9:56 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
i agree
he seems to be making great reads as far as keeping the ball vs handing off. Hopefully he can translate that skill to make great reads in passing as well.
We are also learning he protects the ball very well. Which is something we really need. Turnovers are too much for our team to recover from on a regular basis.
by trumanj on Nov 14, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't agree more
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by Alan_Smithee on Nov 14, 2011 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
I keep telling myself
I need to see more from Tebow and every week I get nothing.
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
Precisely. I keep asking myself is this the coaches problem or TT's?
Are they being too conservative in their play calling? Or are they doing the right thing because TT cannot do more? I guess I want to find out, let him pass more, 20x per game, with 30 runs. Let me see him do more than hand off 20 times and then throw the bomb. I think they have set it up terrifically for the short passing game to become effective now…I was shocked when we did not see him make a few more intermediate-short throws based on KCs obvious prep to stop the option and the run. This should be a “the glass is half-full” situation for the offense, we should have plenty of options on offense between the complex running system we have in place and the options it opens up in the passing game…imho. TT does not need to be Brady now, just average to above average in the passing game. It’s sort of a reverse Elway situation. We have a really good running game and now need to come up with a complimentary passing game.
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by rubincarterrocks on Nov 14, 2011 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
I think Thursday pits
the league’s two most inefficient passers against each other…..and only one can run effectively.
For all you guys that so want to draft a QB in round 1… sorry, but we’ll likely be drafting behind the several teams that want a QB desperately.
You can guarantee that these teams will have QB as their #1 priority in the 2012 draft: Miami, Washington, Seattle, Arizona, Cleveland (sorry Colt, but you suck), Kansas City, Tampa Bay (perhaps) and Indy (I think they draft Luck and cut Manning). Most, if not all, of those teams will be picking before Denver. Considering Luck, Barkely and Jones will all be gone by the 5th pick… doesn’t look like we’ll get one. The guy at Baylor is too much like Tebow so he won’t be an option either.
You guys may want to start scouting the 2nd tier of QBs for our later picks (check out Foles & Tannehill).
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
Indy would be very interesting
I can’t wait to see what they do. Imagine cutting Peyton Manning?
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 8:37 AM MST up reply actions
I doubt they cut him
If anything they would let him retire to a coaching position. But one does not cut Peyton and I don’t see a Favre situation either, Peyton is smart enough to know when to say hang up his hat.
Due to his some clauses in his contract, he is un-tradeable.
Indy could trade out of the 1st round pick, but it’s not like they are only player away right now. Their D is getting old and isn’t good. Their best WR and TE are old. Their O-line isn’t good and their RBs are not good.
They’d be smart to take Luck and start from scratch.
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
What is up with Foles this year?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 9:10 AM MST up reply actions
Is Criner hurt?
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
Tampa Bay? They will ride out Freeman for a while yet, they can still pull the “we are young crap for this year and maybe next year”
Cleveland, I don’t think Colt sucks so much, as they are an offense that just needs some work. All they do is call 4 yard pass plays
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
Colt really does suck, so do his WRs. They’ll go QB in round 1 if one is available.
All the shine and franchise QB talk surrounding Josh Freeman has ceased. Dude has massively regressed this year. Massive regression…
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
to his defense he has no running game and his wide receivers suck as you noted
While I think both could be better, I don’t think either franchise goes for a QB in round 1
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
What about Weeden?
Could be worth a shot possibly
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by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 9:15 AM MST up reply actions
Just like DT needs to learn how to run routes and play football, Julius Thomas needs the same things and Royal needs to learn how to catch passes that hit his hands.
Tebow needs A LOT of work and so do our WRs/TEs. Or maybe we just need several new WRs.
The offseason, dedicated coaching, TC and a proper game play that doesn’t include the BS offense McCoy was running for Orton/Tebow early in the year should help Tebow tremendously.
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
He wasnt bad yesterday.
He had one bad pass, and one medium pass in 8 attempts. He could have easily been 5 of 8. He had few opportunities yesterdays, but he didn’t look as bad as the Tebow caricature who “can’t hit the broadside of a barn.” His wrs are nothing to write home about, and Ball has stone hands. His deep balls yesterday were in line with what I see from veteran nfl qbs.
by TheMascotArmy on Nov 14, 2011 12:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Elway and Xanders have already scouted Foles
Gaff and Lloyd both worked with TT in the off season. It would be nice if we still had one of them.
Believe or not the Jets fans think the Broncos will be a pushoverr
If the JETS’ players think the Broncos are patsies, then Tebow and company have the Jets where they want them.
How many sports’ pundits will pick the Broncos to beat the Jets?
Answer: How many pundits picked the Broncos to beat the Chiefs yesterday?
About zero. Just like vs Oakland. I like this underdog role A LOT.
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
Almost feels like the 80's again!
I became a Broncos fan because they were the underdog back then. First back to back wins in nearly two years feels pretty good!
"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe
Not true. 3 out of 6 CBS writers had us taking the game.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/features/writers/expert/picks
I wish you guys would stop bashing strawmen so much. It gets old.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
As the CBS crew link illustrates though it's still not zero is it though is it?
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
OK fair point but 40% of the CBS writers liked us for the game, which is not close to zero or about zero.
Sorry I just don’t buy all this the media hates us crap. As we start winning more games then the wind will change. But we have to win games first.
I don’t understand why so many here love bashing the MSM. Its up to the Broncos to put a winning product on the road consistently first, not the job of the MSM to praise us when we are still sitting below .500.
Respect comes with winning.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
selective results? 2/5 CBS writers, 0/8 ESPN writers [plus 2 for accuscore/pick em]. So 2/15.
We were not favored — that is the point, we were the underdog. We were the underdog against the raiders and we will be the underdog again this week.
The Jets are 5-4, with four of their wins coming at home. We are 4-5 with one win coming at home.
There are very few people who [I imagine] could see us going 3-1 coming out of our bye week considering there were three road games and two of those were in conference.
We have won 3 of our last 4 — celebrate!
Even if we win, I bet we will be the underdog at San Diego the following week and we probably should be the underdog there too. I think @Minnesota will be the only non underdog game for us on the schedule still, although I guess KC here we might get favored.
by Todd Jewell on Nov 14, 2011 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
Oh trust me I am celebrating Todd - no question about that.
Yeah OK I’ll concede the point to a certain extent although will you give me Waltfootball as he had us for the win? So that makes 3/16….:)
Still not about zero though, although we are possibly arguing semantics so I’ll concede the point to you gracefully.
Really my point is not about whether we are down as underdogs or not – but there is this idea by some at MHR that the MSM doesn’t give us enough respect. And as a result the MSM writers are all morons etc. Not saying you are saying that Todd by the way just to be clear.
Call me naive but I actually have a high respect for American journalists/writers. They are just doing their jobs. But the vitriol that comes their way sometimes from the internet strikes me as nasty. I have this irrational urge to stick up for them!
Like I said we need to win to get respect. That strikes me as fair.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
And for the record I apologise to McGeorge about the Strawman comment
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
And you have nice hair.
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
Throw in Yahoo too—all three of their staff picked Chiefs, and also the users’ popular vote. I think CBS, ESPN, Fox Sports and Yahoo pretty much covers all the major online outlets, and I don’t see any picks on the Fox site, just odds.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Nov 14, 2011 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
I'm siding with McGeorge on this one...
McGeorge said “about zero” (of “sports pundits”), he didn’t say “about zero of CBS picks”.
As was pointed out, picks on ESPN were 10 for 10 picking KC over Denver.
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..."
by Alan_Smithee on Nov 14, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
2 out of 5.
I don’t think “Winner” makes its pick until after the game has been played.
Avalance 2011-12 season, Mission 45 Wins.
Get well soon Juan.
That is just two of six actually (try counting that again) and I don’t read hacks like Piscco and CBS Sportsline. It’s a 4th rate site.
Tim Tebow's career record is 4-3. He is the worst 1st round pick EVER! He is an embarrassment to the NFL! Did I say that with enough conviction to get a job with ESPN?
i feel we can really win this game
Jets have to overcome a mental and physical beatdown on a short week, they have a long flight, and have to prepare for an offense that’s not ran in the nfl, plus ill never bet against the broncos anyway. I also love being the underdog. The patriots exposed some weakness on the jets o-line that should allow von miller to have a multiple sack game. Go Broncos
by BigRockTheFirst on Nov 14, 2011 9:20 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
and
all this at mile high
Lately it occurs to me,
What a long strange trip it's been. Jerry Garcia
by turnertwo2003 on Nov 14, 2011 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
Plus, if you are a run heavy team it's always
easier to game plan in a short week.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Nov 14, 2011 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
JETs
are running into a buzz saw IMO
Broncos and the crowd will be pumped up, should be a good one
Release the Tebow!
If I were Rex Ryan, I'd tell the jets players to tighten up their chinstraps because it's going to be a physical game from start to finish.
It’s hard to believe I’m actually saying that about the broncos!
by tiderfootball09 on Nov 14, 2011 9:24 AM MST up reply actions
absolutely! and I love it! We are playing so physical
on both sides of the ball right now… it’s great fun and about time!
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Nov 14, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
Really? Which Jets fans think this? All of them? Got a link to how the entire Jets community thinks the Broncos will be a pushover? Certainly not over on our sister site Bleeding Green Nation.
Our very own J-Man was over there – and the reply from the Jets fans so far is they are apporaching Thursday’s games with trepidation. And rightly so.
Look up “strawman” under logical fallacies Technopeasant.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
The Jets defense has to basically re-scheme to face a new offense in 2 days.
Most of the time NFL defenses just have to adjust to the subtle differences between standard NFL offenses, which is easy to do in a week.
The Jets have a short week and have to adjust to something they haven’t seen nor practiced.
I like our advantage there.
I remember the giants coming in here on a short week a couple years back.
Didn’t work out so well for them either.
As the ancient Tibetan Philosophy states "Don't start none, won't be none!"
by MrFNSunshine on Nov 14, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
Ditto
And I like this line from Peter King, of all people, on the Broncos chances: “the advantage for Denver is simple: The Jets have a short practice week to figure out a new offense and have to travel. Who knows? Ride the wave.”
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Nov 14, 2011 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
Peter King also made Fox and McCoy his joint Coach of the week
Tailoring the gameplan around the talent leads to winning
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
If I'm impartial...
I’d have to give the Jets the edge.
However, if McGahee is back I’d wouldn’t be surprised at all with a Bronco win. It can be a competitive game.
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..."
by Alan_Smithee on Nov 14, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
Aren't we all guzzling the koolaid this morning.
If we do beat an angry Jets team on Thursday, then I’ll certainly jump on board this bandwagon fully.
He better, cause the Jets won't respect him at all.
Our only chance at winning depends on if we get Good Tebow or Bad Tebow.
Get in Shape, Lynch
By the time you make a decision, you’ll have to run to catch the bandwagon.
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Nov 14, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
Well, I'm not jumping on a bandwagon that hasn't shown me anything that resembles a quarterback.
If Tebow can’t play quarterback then I will be jumping on the “draft a QB in 2012” bandwagon. Hate to say it, but the crap we are running right now is NOT a long term strategy for success. Mark it down. I just hope it works long enough to win a playoff game. :P
Kind of my thoughts…while it felt we dominated Yesterday, we only won by 7 points and are one play away from losing that game. So far when we played a game where we had to score points to keep up with a team, it didn’t go very well. If we command the game by scoring first I think we stand a chance, but if we have to score points I feel we are screwed.
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
We were one play away from losing to Oakland too...
Remember that Chris Harris pick when the Raiders were driving up 7 in the 3rd quarter. Interception, 60 yard TD run and see ya! Momentum never returned to the Raiders.
ah, ye of little faith (or short memory...) tough D with a conservative, low scoring O
is what got us to our first SB with Craig Morton.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Nov 14, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
The Broncos coaching staff and verterans need to make sure they don't come out flat. Because the Jets won't that's for sure.
They shouldn’t do – after a 2 week winning streak on the road the Broncos need to take this momentum into the home stadium.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
After the past 5 years we should never again come out
flat or overconfident.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Nov 14, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
the kool aid has been being guzzled all year. Bloated in fact.
lol
Gaff and Lloyd both worked with TT in the off season. It would be nice if we still had one of them.
What are some peoples thoughts about putting in Kyle Orton during 2 minute drills?
Like Yesterday at the end of the half we were about 15 yards from FG position but we ran the ball and punted with about a minute left. I would be completely fine just letting Kyle Orton handle those pure passing situations and let him dink and dunk with 5 wide. It would be a huge change of pace for the defense.
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
I have to admit, now that we are in the think of the playoff chase, I say whatever they need to do to win games they should do. But I in no way think they will do it. Kind of like how they didn’t put Tebow in once we got inside the 10 when Orton was starting, I think they like just one guy. Most people do for that matter.
Yeah I know the NFL hates the whole 2 QB thing and what not, but I think the idea holds some merit.
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
but what if we have to pass the ball? There are only so many play actional deep balls that will surprise teams? what will we do? Halfback pass?
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Nov 14, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions
Why take the ball out of TTs hands during the time
when he is so much more effective than Orton ever was? And if you think you had QB controversy when Tebow was sitting on the bench behind Orton, try bringing Orton back now…
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Nov 14, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
afc west blog
Tebow is 2-1 as Denver’s starting quarterback this season. The Broncos continue to audition him. They want to see him become an effective passer. It is not happening. But as long as the Broncos win, they will have patience with Tebow.
3-1. The last sentence really sticks in my craw. What, no magic insider knowledge to divulge? Or even an opinion about the secret recipe to determining a franchise QB, or the ‘patience’ they should have with a first round pick? Was the story that KC’s offense looked discombobulated or that their defense gave up a lot of rushing yards? How about Denver’s rushing attack and effective defense, or Tebow’s contributions to the winning result? No…? Well OK thanks, I am so much more well-informed for reading Captain Obvious and his insights – now don’t risk pissing off the Chiefs fans, Bill, because the easy targets are all here in Denver. Sheesh. </SARCASM END TAG>
Balanced offense
I think a team with a great passing attack needs about half runs to keep the defense honest. A great running team only needs a few long pass attempts to keep the defense honest because a missed run comes with a small price, but a missed pass is a score. It is ironic the Fox may revolutionize the game.
And to everybody who brings up miami’s wildcat as the proof that it can’t work, miami didn’t have Tebow running it.
by TheMascotArmy on Nov 14, 2011 1:02 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I may be wrong
But… It seems to me that the Broncos are playing a better game in all areas. No I don’t believe that they have it right yet, but the winning is indicative of better play. Love to get a win against Jets tho. Payback for that loss last season… GO DENVER!!!
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
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I had a full day, only now I can read it..
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