If Supporting American Troops Is Wrong, Eric Decker Doesn't Want To Be Right
by John Bena on Nov 14, 2011 12:32 PM MST
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During the Broncos win over the Kansas City Chiefs - forgive me, I just like typing those words - anyway, during the Broncos win over the Chiefs - IN KANSAS CITY - Eric Decker was penalized 15-yards for an excessive celebration. Specifically, Decker was called for taking his celebration to the ground.
What did Decker do? Just look above. Decker, in a tribute to the men and women of the US Military - on Veteran's Day Weekend, no less, went to one knee and gave a little Mile High Salute. As Chris Chase from Yahoo's Shutdown Corner points out, the NFL is a wee-bit hypocritical here:
Legal in the NFL: Scoring a touchdown and then running 100 yards down the sideline to give the ball to your girlfriend who's a cheerleader for the opposing team.
Not legal in the NFL: Scoring a touchdown and saluting the troops on Veterans Day weekend.
How correct Chase is.
At the time, I called Ron Winter and his group of keystone cops with worst officiating crew in the NFL. Along with Jeff Triplette, Winter's crew is at the tops of the NFL in penalties per game. They are doing all they can to take the fun and excitement from a game that is played with passion.
To Decker's credit, he took the high road, on Twitter last night, saying he was 'sad to get a penalty for saluting the men and women of the U.S. Military.' So am I, Eric, as are millions of Broncos fans and Americans who are trying to figure out what the NFL is trying to do with penalties like these and so many others we see every week.
The next move is up to the NFL. Will they actually fine Decker for his penalty? I'd be hard-pressed to think so, but in a day and age where a defensive lineman can mock Tim Tebow after a sack by feigning prayer, or Tony Scheffler can do the same after a touchdown yet Eric Decker can not salute the men and women of the military, anything is possible.
Luckily for us, those freedoms that are protected by the men and women Decker is saluting allow me to rip Ron Winter and the NFL for making the call. I love this Country!
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I say fine the officials
If the Jets have a fourth and a foot situation, Rex will probably go for it
by Broncs55 on Nov 14, 2011 12:38 PM MST reply actions 6 recs
That really is a good idea. Seriously.
I mean, none of these penalties are review-able. So, why dont they have a panel on Tuesdays, that reviews all penalties from that weekends games? Figure some way of correcting or coaching the refs, or finding ways to improve the officiating.
And for especially STUPID penalties, or game-changing penalties that should/shouldnt have been called. Small fines, or docks in pay (I know refs dong make that much, but their decisions have HUGE repercussions)
..We're 3-13 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..
BS calls like the one here on Decker
and the one on Goodman are two in one game that shouldn’t have been called in my opinion
If the Jets have a fourth and a foot situation, Rex will probably go for it
I would love to see this
Players are fined for a hit that wasn’t flagged during the game, so the same should be done to the officials. I have never heard anything whether this happens or not, so I hope it does.
I mean what is so different than all the other “Mile High Salutes” the Broncos do as well as what the opponents do. No consistency.
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I read somewhere
That the officials do get reviewed. These result in “scores” being given and are used in deciding who gets to work post season games.
There is some accountability as to who gets to continue working NFL games but I don’t believe there are any fines or other penalties. However, considering they could lose officiating priveledges, I would think they should be trying to “get it right”.
Go Broncos!
Totally agreed!
They should be fined for blatant horrible calls (example a given- though there are numerous types of blatant horrible calls, i.e. a couple of Clady’s “holding” penalites),
And they should also be fined for blatant no calls. That would be harder to do, but the people fining them should have the same amount of accountability the officials do. Which pretty much equates to ‘woops sorry’ (Ed Hochuli anyone?), but would then equate to woops we screwed up fining you Mr. Official, because you DIDN’T make that call. What’s that, your back was turned, you can clearly see multiple angles of replay that your back was turned, so there was no way for you to see it? Oh well, we already issued the fine dude, now pay up. Then they’d empathize a little more often/better, I have the strangest feeling they would.
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An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Nov 14, 2011 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
How is this not green?
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Total crap
I’m speechless… I couldn’t even believe that K-State got penalized for saluting the troops in their bowl game last year that ruined their chance at a comeback (read about it here) and that’s much more strict than NFL rules. The fact that they called this excessive celebration in an NFL game is just beyond stupid. They showed they were inept the way they called the rest of the game. But with that call, they showed they should never work another game in their lives.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Nov 14, 2011 12:40 PM MST reply actions
I might be wrong but didn't Willis McGahee do this in Oakland?
Didn’t see him do get flagged for it and he was taunting the fans! Hippo-crats!!!!
by valas40 on Nov 14, 2011 12:41 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I thought McGahee remained standing, but I could be wrong.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Nov 14, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
You are absolutely correct.
I think Willis did it both scores against Oakland, matter of fact.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Nov 14, 2011 4:13 PM MST up reply actions
We wouldn't taunt Chiefs fans
for the most part they are classy, Raiders fans on the other hand…
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 3:15 PM MST up reply actions
and...
opposing teams have done it by using Tebowing as a derisive celebration after sacks, etc. Was not called then, either.
Disapointing behaviour by Winter & crew. Decker was respectful. Hopefully someone can lobby the NFL to re-think the wording of the rules.
Clearly the NFL is OK with the concept of supporting US troops as evidenced by the invites of troops to matches and the support that broadcast crews give the military. I like the way the US supports its military at sports events. Its something that has caught on over here in Britain. Its a positive thing.
I doubt Winter realised Decker was supporting the troops – which is more ignorance on their part rather than maliciousness.
Hopefully the NFL can learn from this. Perhaps an email to Peter King might help highlight the injustice.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Nov 14, 2011 12:48 PM MST reply actions
This is dumb.
Players go to one knee all the time after scoring a TD. They say a little prayer, point up to God, and trot to their sideline. I’ve seen it this season with no penalty flag. Is this illegal now too?
GO BRONCOS!!!
I never thought Commish Goodell was an atheist
perhaps so
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
That Detroit could "Tebow" on our field
But Decker could not in Arrowhead just shows the inconsistency that we all hate. It won’t end but if the NFL follows up with a fine I will scream very loudly!
Go Broncos!
by Sean in Pa. on Nov 14, 2011 12:50 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
I'm pretty sure McGahee did this exact same thing last week
with not flag
If the Jets have a fourth and a foot situation, Rex will probably go for it
Absolutely, Sean....
this is ridiculously inconsistent, and a double standard that screams to me of a rogue ref that is not in step with the others.
It's a Tebow thing
thanks for pointing it out – i didn’t even notice
If the Jets have a fourth and a foot situation, Rex will probably go for it
I also assumed it was Tebowing with a Mile High Salute when I saw it during the game.
Gaff and Lloyd both worked with TT in the off season. It would be nice if we still had one of them.
That's the first thing I noticed
Someone needs to like Eric know that’s not the way to do it…
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RIP Barrel Man - 12/5/09
by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 14, 2011 3:56 PM MST up reply actions
I understand why the NFL doesn't want taunting, its to keep the players from getting into fights
I love celebrations…even if they are against the broncos. Andre Risons “spiderman” routine was awesome, even when it was against the broncos.
The NFL should define taunting as if a player is LOOKING AT AN OPPONENT, then its a penalty. 3 or 4 guys in the endzone doing some dance…how is that gonna piss a player off more than the fact they just let the other team score?!?!?
taunting was what the lions did to Tebow in between plays
not what Decker is doing here – who is he taunting, Tebow? That’s like McBean stalking a woman – it just can’t physically happen. How does a 300 pound man stalk anything?
If the Jets have a fourth and a foot situation, Rex will probably go for it
if you mean like Jack and the Beanstalk
I don’t know, McBean should be the giant in that movie if they ever make a live-action version
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
Being 300 lbs maybe that's why he was caught
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Nov 14, 2011 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
If taunting is the explanation
the refs don’t understand the definition, Decker is taunting nobody….and Aaron Rodgers blatantly turns to Dawkins and flashes the belt, that was taunting….but who got the penalty…it’s a joke, and a rule thats needs to be revoked or more clearly defined!
by cfive4Broncos on Nov 14, 2011 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
Fine Decker?
Honestly, I never even considered that this could be a possibility. BUT if the NFL fines Decker for this… which I strongly doubt… then I think I need to find a new sport to follow. What kind of message would the NFL be sending if they were to fine Decker?
Clearly this is not taunting as cfive4 pointed out.
"I got a dirty mind, a gutter mouth, I'm makin time for goin out with your wife... cuz I'm a lowlife... livin the high life" Kid Rock
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Decker is a stud, he is like Sir Thomas More, willing to do the right thing, notwithstanding the taunts of “superiors.”
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
God Bless America
and bleep Rashard Mendenhall, anti-Americans running amuck on Veterans Day weekend smh
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 1:27 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I agree Bronc55. Officials should be fined!
All in all, most officiating crews do a pretty good job. But that crew was just aweful yesterday! The calls against Goodman and Decker were just horrid! I’ll say this though, as Decker did his salute, the KC cheerleader in the background was Awe-strusck!!
Maybe the ref just got jealous! (than again, maybe I’m just jealous!! ;)
Taunting?? NO WAY! Capturing the Awe of Fans? Priceless! Do it again, Decker!
Go Broncos
how about D.J. Williams'
“pass interference?”
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
Or Dawkins "interference"?
Fact is the refs always give the broncos some bullshit calls at arrowhead. But Flowers gets to hang onto Royals left arm without looking at the ball and that one is let go
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
actually the brunette cheerleader in the background is saying
“Hey Eric will you go out with me after this lousy game?”
Gaff and Lloyd both worked with TT in the off season. It would be nice if we still had one of them.
THAT’S what he did??!? I saw the penalty call but didn’t see what he did and they didn’t ever show a replay so I could see what it was. Seriously? This was it? Taking a knee is now excessive celebration? Why then are people allowed to do a Lambeau leap? That’s way more excessive than a kneeling salute.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
Maybe the officials flagged him
for saluting with the wrong hand…
by Christopher Shaw on Nov 14, 2011 1:47 PM MST reply actions
I think Goodell would have a conniption if any did that
during one of HIS games…
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
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by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 14, 2011 4:02 PM MST up reply actions
It won’t be long before the refs throw a flag for scratching their butt. “15 yard penalty for excessive crotch scratching.”
"If we cannot find a way, we will make one." -Hannibal
by AvalancheRescueDog on Nov 14, 2011 2:01 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
refs who confuse the crotch with the butt… this is not good.
by David T. on Nov 14, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
he only threw it cause it was a right handed player scratching with his left hand
If the Jets have a fourth and a foot situation, Rex will probably go for it
by Broncs55 on Nov 14, 2011 2:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It was officially announced as U*nsportsman like conduct..
For taking a celebration to ground. And CBS very pointedly did not show it or show the replay of it or to try to explain it.
"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers
exactly. CBS wouldn't dare point that out to the NFL
Gaff and Lloyd both worked with TT in the off season. It would be nice if we still had one of them.
Obvious why that was a penatly
Everyone knows you salute with your right hand – NOT the left.
(Please, please, apply fitting amounts of irony and sarcasm)
Decker is a good American
so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but your comment is droll!
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
Help out the poor dane...
… how would one explain droll? – never seen that word before :P
Droll
means amusing and it really was :)
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by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 3:47 PM MST up reply actions
Too much info??
Main Entry:
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Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: amusing, farcical
Synonyms: absurd, camp, campy, clownish, comic, comical, crack-up, diverting, eccentric, entertaining, for grins, funny, gagged up, gelastic, humorous, jocular, joshing, laffer, laughable, ludicrous, odd, preposterous, quaint, queer, quizzical, ridiculous, riot, risible, waggish, whimsical
Go Broncos!
Well, I was actually going to say that and...
…to do it standing. Don’t take me wrong, I truly appreciate the gesture being a military member myself (ok, I am in the Canadian military, but I did work in C Springs), but I think it would looked better if he would do it standing.He probably wants to be a little different, but it just looks awkward.
God Bless the Mounties!
, I hope everyone remembered to get a poppy for you on Remembrance Day. Don Cherry mentioned it on Hockey Night in Canada which I watched on NHL Network!
Brad James
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Nov 14, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions
One of THE worst officiated games I've witnessed.
And I’m a Broncos fan, so I’ve obviously seen some horrible officiating in my 20+ years of watching the NFL. The bias against the Broncos doesn’t exist solely in Canton.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Nov 14, 2011 4:16 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
E Decker salute
Amen on loving this country. Nice job, Eric….both the TD and the salute!!
Inconsistency is the word
No penalty for Detroit DL to go to the ground after sacking Tebow in an obviously taunting celebration , but one for kneeling after a 50 yard touchdown?
by Kosty on Nov 14, 2011 7:24 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I always think the NFL is a little hysterical on celeberations.
This just takes the cake.
Julian from Australia
by j-mac31 on Nov 15, 2011 3:49 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Aren't you supposed to not go to the ground?
I think that’s the deal here, isn’t it? I mean, everyone wants to go hyperbolic with this and claim he was penalized for saluting the troops. But I doubt the refs looked at each other and said:
“Hey, what’s he doing?”
“Why, I think he might be saluting the troops! Someone stop him!”
I think you’re not supposed to go to the ground. I think it’s a dumb rule, but it’s still the rule.
"Thank the Lord I don't have to live with the roller coaster that you all make out of my life" - Tim Tebow
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