Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 11/8/11

by Tim Lynch on Nov 8, 2011 7:42 AM MST in Horse Tracks

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Soaking in a Win on Victory Monday | DenverBroncos.com
Willis McGahee, Von Miller and Eddie Royal spend part of their off day talking about Sunday's 38-24 win in Oakland.

John Elway says Broncos' Tim Tebow improved against the Raiders | First-and-Orange
Broncos executive John Elway said quarterback Tim Tebow showed improvement in Sunday’s 38-24 win over Oakland, but added that he needs to be better throwing the football.

NFL.com news: Broncos turn to read-option to highlight Tebow's strengths
The Denver Broncos used an unorthodox approach to better serve their unconventional quarterback, Tim Tebow, during Sunday's 38-24 victory over the Oakland Raiders.

Eddie Royal Has Best Game Of The Season In Oakland " CBS Denver
A few years ago Broncos wide receiver Eddie Royal had his coming out party in Oakland. This year he had his best game of the season Sunday afternoon against the Raiders in Oakland.

Broncos hitting target with Tebow's progress - The Denver Post
In the seconds it took the Broncos to run two plays late in the first quarter Sunday in Oakland, observers got a perfect snapshot of the Tim Tebow Experience.

Broncos' offensive front won battles to make option work - The Denver Post
The option's out of the bag for the Broncos. They trampled the Raiders for 299 yards rushing Sunday and had two players — quarterback Tim Tebow and running back Willis McGahee — top 100 yards in the game.

In Tebow Debate, a Clash of Faith and Football - NYTimes.com
At the intersection of faith and football, the fervor that surrounds both Tebow’s beliefs and his struggles in his second season for the Denver Broncos has escalated into a full-blown national debate over religion and its place in sports.

Denver Broncos News

John Fox Press Conference | DenverBroncos.com
Head Coach John Fox talks about Sunday's 38-24 win against the Raiders.

Broncos coaches go back to college for Tebow - Boulder Daily Camera
Tim Tebow is not a prototypical NFL passer and may never become one. So, the Denver Broncos used an unorthodox approach with their unconventional quarterback. The Broncos confounded the Oakland Raiders with the same system that Tebow operated so successfully at the University of Florida: the read-option run strategy.

Krieger: Broncos' Tebow earns right to keep starting - The Denver Post
Last weeks goats are this weeks heroes. Broncodom has turned into a manic-depressive support group, bouncing from the lowest lows last week to the highest highs this week.

Broncos' Eddie Royal makes most of opportunity to return punt - The Denver Post
Some things in football are well planned. Eddie Royals game Sunday in Oakland showed there always should be a place for spontaneity.

Broncos' eyes on the Kansas City Chiefs - The Denver Post
The Chiefs four-game winning streak was snapped in embarrassing fashion with a 31-3 home loss to the previously winless Miami Dolphins.

Denver Broncos Blogs

Notebook: Fox Talks Run, Royal, Record | DenverBroncos.com
Head Coach John Fox met the media Monday on the heels of Sunday's 38-24 win against the Raiders.

Offense Continuing to Evolve | DenverBroncos.com
With Tim Tebow starting at quarterback the Denver offense has made several adjustments and Sunday vs. Oakland that unit showed signs of progress.

AFC West is Wide Open | DenverBroncos.com
The Denver Broncos Sunday posted a stirring come-from-behind 38-24 win over the Oakland Raiders at the Coliseum, better known and forever regarded as the Black Hole.

Thoughts on the Denver Broncos Big Win Over the Raiders - Predominantly Orange
Thoughts on the demolition of the Oakland Raiders (In no particular order).

Tim Tebow, Denver Broncos Look Strong vs. Oakland Raiders | Opposing Views
Tim Tebow gets by with a little help from his friends. On Sunday, his friends didn’t just "help" — they dominated.

What’s a locked out NBA player to do? Tebow, of course | First-and-Orange
A few weeks ago, it was LeBron James congratulating Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow via Twitter. Now another Florida-based NBA star is getting in on the action.

Hit on Broncos S Rahim Moore scary, but not as bad as feared | First-and-Orange
Broncos rookie safety Rahim Moore was already back into his gameday suit when his teammates returned to the visitors’ locker room last night at O.co Stadium in Oakland

NFL News

NFL Power Rankings, Week 10: Aaron Rodgers Is A Good Quarterback - SB Nation Arizona
Week 10 of the NFL Power Rankings is upon us and it's more of the same, really. The only real surprise is Andy Dalton and the Cincinnati Bengals, but their presence among the elite is dubious, at best.

No such thing as statement wins in the NFL anymore - The Washington Post
Here’s a definitive statement about the NFL: There no longer are statement wins. Just look what happened to the Steelers after their big victory over the Patriots, or the Chiefs after their fortunate win against the Chargers.

Indianapolis finds itself in new territory as NFL’s last winless team - The Washington Post
At the Colts complex, the first Monday of November is usually reserved for taking an extra day off and contemplating the playoff picture.

No one in the NFL can fill the void of Peyton Manning's absence - LA Times
The injured Indianapolis quarterback is the ultimate star, with his excellence on the field and regular-guy attitude and sense of humor off it. The winless Colts, of course, miss him most.

Denver Broncos Fans

Ask A Chiefs Fan - Wild, Wild West Edition - Mile High Report
Hello, MHR. I know it's early in the week, but my internet is liable to disappear by this time tomorrow (more on that later) so I'll get this up early. Meanwhile, congratulations to the Broncos on their stunning and delicious win at the hands of the Raiders.

McCoy, Tebow, McGahee, and the Zone Read - Mile High Report
So in the post-game thread yesterday I made a somewhat extended comment arguing that offensive coordinator Mike McCoy deserved a lot of credit for putting together a quality offensive gameplan. My argument was actually two-fold, and I'll summarize for those who didn't see my comment.

Broncos at Raiders Trip Report-Mission Accomplished!!! - Mile High Report
I scored some last minute tickets to Sunday's game and decided to go. What a scene out there. Going to the Smuthole that is Oakland Coliseum I had a pretty good idea what to expect and Raider fan did not disappoint.

Broncos vs Raiders: The No Bull Review - Mile High Report
Congratulations, Broncos Country! We beat the raiders in their house...just beating them is a huge deal to me. We could tank out the rest of the season and I'll be happy for this one game to be completely honest.

Luff Rumblings, The Return - Mile High Report
Hey folks! It's been way too long.... I miss you guys. I know my return coincides with our best win in years, apparently that's what it takes for a Luff to find the strength to write a fan-post. :)

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Good stuff today Tim!

Thanks for the Horse Tracks!

I can see myself years from now saying something like… ‘one day I was looking through Horse Tracks….’ and someone’ll be like ‘looking through what?’

They’re just so common to me, and I don’t, not even for a second, take them for granted. Greatly appreciated Tim.

A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill

First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Nov 8, 2011 7:56 AM MST reply actions

That's why you should write a Journal

personal histories are the future’s link to us, write about the Broncos’ successes as from now on, they will exceed the amount of disappointments, I honestly believe this!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Nov 8, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs

Great advice!

And I definitely don’t disagree with the belief either! That makes at least two of Us. Though I know there are plenty more.

A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill

First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Nov 8, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions

Thanks!

the greatest thing I ever did several years ago, was write in my journal. It has made me a historian of all things, especially the NFL and the Broncos!

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by the new Bradfather on Nov 8, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions

As always, thanks Tim.

I’ve read, on several outside article comment sections —-it seems many are not happy with John Elway right now. This is only one of them:

“Broncos had much needed total team effort Sunday against Raiders. Everything seemed to click. Elway’s public response however, demonstrates some unsettling, negative attitudes towards Tebow that bears further watching.

There is enough of a continuous, clear track record on Elway’s public statements to seriously question his objectivity regarding Tebow as a player. Elway’s latest comment following the Raider game clearly downplayed Tebow’s performance, and notified the sport’s world that Tebow was still a game away from being benched!
What kind of a negative message does this send to the fans, team, coaches and Tebow?

Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.

by Boiler etc on Nov 8, 2011 9:24 AM MST reply actions 1 recs

It's so unsettling.

Yesterday was the team’s 1st “Victory Monday” of the season and they got the day off. And Tim was right there on his day off (along with other players – he was just the only one mentioned by name in the article) watching film and studying in an attempt to get better. I guess I just can’t understand the angle of his comments sometimes. The point of publicly letting the entire sports world know that plans were in place to pull your 3-game starter if he performed like a 3-game starter (or worse) was what? Keep that kinda noise inside the Broncos’ house. There’s absolutely no reason outside people needed to know that so they can use it against Tim or put even more pressure on a kid who’s fighting for his job as it is.

I would like it so much more if he just came out and explicitly voiced his distaste with Tim in whatever it may be than these subtle negative comments.

by iBleedorangeandblue on Nov 8, 2011 9:49 AM MST up reply actions

Elway was honest.

I agree with him that Tebow’s improved in his throwing, BUT it must get better if this team is going to compete. God, why can’t people be intellectually honest with themselves. Look at reality people! Tebow is improving bit by bit, BUT he has to get better in order to compete consistently. Oh my God, I am such a HATER! Sheessh…..

PS I’m not targeting you personally Boiler, just lamenting in general. lol

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by Tim Lynch on Nov 8, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs

lamenting?

or ranting? :P heheh (I like a good rant)

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by PortlandOrange on Nov 8, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions

I have no issue with Elway's comment either.

Maybe he would have been better off not including the “he’s week to week” comment. That probably didn’t need to be aired (even though that is true too).

Overall, for a QB with 3 starts this year and only 6 in his career, I think Tebow is doing as well as most QB’s with that experience level…meaning the performance needs to get better.

Elway could have said “Tim is improving, but LIKE ALL YOUNG QB’s, he needs to improve”.

by FresnoKevin on Nov 8, 2011 12:30 PM MST up reply actions

Didn't he say we'll review Tim on a week to week basis?

Isn’t that what we’re all doing? lol

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by Tim Lynch on Nov 8, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions

Well

I think Tebow did spectacularly, but I agree with Elway in the regard that at my job, I need to give a full effort to be true to my company and myself. Perhaps the 1-game incentive methodology does work for Tebow between the ears which causes him to prepare more and play better. I won’t look at a negative angle here, hopefully that helped.

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by the new Bradfather on Nov 8, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions

Greg Bishop's story in the NY Times reminds me of just how unimaginative so many of the

writers today are. Just a total rehash of old material re: Tebow, his faith and football. It appears that commentators still don’t get it about many of the athletes and their faith in Jesus. I don’t know how many times guys have to say that they are not giving thanks to God for giving them victory over the other team but rather, are simply giving thanks to God for their ability to compete…big difference. Rich Gannon reflects the “don’t get it crowd” when he states that there should be a separation between Tebow the football player and Tebow the Christian athlete, the problem is that Tebow see’s no such distinction and would totally disagree with Gannon’s view of that. I agree with Tebow, and other Christian athletes that if your faith in God is real it cannot be segregated as just another department in your life but is what all aspects of your life are driven by. There can be no separation if it’s a real faith. So when Tebow is giving thanks to God for being able to play football he does it when they lose as well as when they win. After all, God is sovereign over all and present in all circumstances. To expect Tebow to not be demonstrative about his faith would be expecting him to place his primary belief at times in line behind popular culture and it’s expectations of what he should say and how he should behave and when he should say things. I think Tebow is more excited about and more dependent upon Jesus Christ than he is in the NFL. I can live with that and admire that kind of conviction.

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by rubincarterrocks on Nov 8, 2011 9:26 AM MST reply actions 3 recs

Another reason why politics isn't worth my time anymore.

It’s full of blowhards and ideologists. I’d rather have a conversation with a piece of cow shit than those types of people.

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by Tim Lynch on Nov 8, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions

You 'dung' blew my mind Tim...

by bfree2bronc on Nov 8, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions

SCREW politics

my employer makes me write political articles because an election year is coming up but I hate the process. All politicians are scumbags, Mitt Romney included. Yes, I am throwing one of my own under the bus, they don’t care about the American public, they care about enhancing THEIR profile, THEIR lives, not OURS and US, talk about something that is poison in the locker room or anywhere else… smh

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by the new Bradfather on Nov 8, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs

Please Brad, don't fall into that "all politicians are scumbags"

I’m being complimentary when I say that gross exageration is beneath you.
I’ve been an elected public offical on the state level (before my mind crashed…. lol) and I will tell you explicitly that , at least where I came from, it simply is not true.

In the interest of not being flagged or banned I will say nothing more.

Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.

by Boiler etc on Nov 8, 2011 4:50 PM MST up reply actions

Speaking as one of those Godless European atheists Fox News warns you about I agree with you.

If one belives one’s life is driven by a deity then it does not seem unreasonable for that person to acknowledge that every now and again. As you say so long as it does not cross the line from giving thanks for playing football to giving thanks for victory over Team XYZ….

As an atheist Tebow’s faith doesn’t bother me in the slightest. I don’t demand that my Bronco players exhibit outstanding morals at all times in order for me to cheer them on, but I would feel uncomfortable supporting a team full of players with say multiple DUI/animal cruelty convictions, or sexual assault allegations either (for example) simply because they are wearing the Denver uniform.

So to me Tebow’s example as a human being is refreshing and I like it. It’s nice to get behind a great kid who treats everyone around him with respect and who makes an effort to look after those less fortunate than him. My only source of disagreement would be my belief that the Tebows of this world are just as capable of behaving in a good just and humanitarian manner without the need for faith in the first place. But that is a debate for somewhere else.

What would Blackie Lawless do?

by British Bronco on Nov 8, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs

Is that Mr. Belvedere on your avatar!

he and Geoffrey Butler are the coolest TV British butlers of all time! Mr. French was all right too.

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by the new Bradfather on Nov 8, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions

I believe its Magnum P.I.

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by Tim Lynch on Nov 8, 2011 12:59 PM MST up reply actions

that's epic too!

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by the new Bradfather on Nov 8, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions

Religion vs sports? Who cares?

I have my faith just like Tim Tebow and I think he wears his pants just like I do…There is nothing wrong with being religious and being an athlete, there are far more religious people in the world than not, so why make an issue out of it? If you want to be agnostic or a nonbeliever so be it, that’s your choice in life, but don’t make me think just because Tim Tebow is a faithful follower of his Lord and savior Jesus Christ tha he can’t be competive in sports…That’s ridiculous.

by bfree2bronc on Nov 8, 2011 10:28 AM MST reply actions

In addition, there are hundreds of athletes at every level who do the same thing.

Pictures all over the internet of large groups of football players on a knee en mass, both before and after games. (the one I recently and accidentally saw was maybe twenty Packers and_______ (couldn’t tell from the other team’s helmets) That is just one example.
Did the NYT do a negative article about them? Geesh.

Earth to Fox: Let Tebow play his own game.

by Boiler etc on Nov 8, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions

Have you even read Bishop's article?

John Elway’s so called honest assessment is biased against Tebow, compared to Bishop. There’s nothing written as an editorial by him, it’s all just gathering what others have said, and
an assessment of the state of Tebow as a football player, and as a Christian, and the polarization of people’s opinion toward him, and why that has happened. And it isn’t political, as mentioned somewhere, above. Not at all. How does a guy writing for the Times about the Tebow debate automatically make this political? It isn’t, political and it isn’t a negative article, unless you choose to view it that way. Actually, Bishop’s completely neutral. Many choose not to properly read what’s going on, and just assume it’s a bad thing, which is unfair, at best. Showing ignorance, at worst. Rich Gannon made some comments that might cause debate, but the truth is, he gave an opinion and there are many others…Kurt Warner, Tim Hasslebeck, Howell Scott and Lincoln Blumell who have a say in this article. Gannon’s been cherry picked to fit the narrative of a post, most of Bishop’s article quotes pro Christians, and Greg Bishop’s article isn’t some NYT negative article.

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 8, 2011 9:09 PM MST up reply actions