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4 Denver fumbles, directly gave the patriots NET 14 points. The Tebow fumble was bad, the Ball fumble was worse, and the muffed extra point was just plain awful. But the only true INEXCUSABLE one was Quan Cosby's at the end of the half. And if it weren't for that boneheaded play, this game would likely have had a different outcome.Is he the sole reason why they lost, NO! of course not, it's a team game, but he sure as heck did not help.

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1. Why the hell are u near the football!?!?!?! Look at the freaking clock dude. Situational awareness plays paramount when battling elite teams, and he simply did not have it yesterday. If he doesn't touch the ball, it's going to bounce probably in the endzone, and there probably won't be any time left. Even if he caught the ball, what the heck was he planning on doing with it!? I mean seriously did he think he would score a TD, and even if he did he shouldn't have tried, that's not John Fox/Broncos football to take unnecessary risks. DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!

2. Those were the three most costly points of the game, it was what separated it from being a 2 and 3 score game, which in the end looked to be not that much in terms of the final score 41-23. But lets take those three points off the board for a minute and look at the rest of the game: The Patriots would have gone into the locker room with the lead at 24-16. 1 possession. They also scored first in the second half which would have made it 31-16. 2 possessions. with plenty of time left. We have all seen Denver pull out a 15 point deficit before (MIAMI), but not 18 not 3 possessions. Okay so lets assume that the score heading into the 4th reads 31-16. Denver scores in the 4th. And here is where it showed the most. IF Cosby had not tried to field that ball and the Pats don't get 3 points... IT IS A ONE POSSESSION GAME!!! with plenty of time and 8 minutes to go. 31-23 instead of what it really was which was 34-23. Now Brady very well could have marched down the field, extended the lead to two scores again, and cinched the game with a TD. But it would not have surprised me if the Denver D and the Denver crowd came up BIG and forced a punt. Giving Tebow a chance to do what he had done the previous 4 weeks, which is make a miracle happen. And does anyone doubt, that they would have marched down the field, scored and Tebow plow in for the 2 pointer I don't think so. 31-31 OT. Would they lose in OT maybe, or maybe Tebow magic would have struck again... but we will never know. But instead the Defense did not come through and the Patriots won 41-23.

3. Yes he has a cool name, but why is he still on the team? We have Royal who they put back there later, who has had several big Punt and Kickoff Returns in his career. Including one this year against the Raiders. I remember at the time when he was added, both DT and Royal were out with injury so the move made sense (with the emergence of Eric Decker at receiver it was a good idea not to risk injury with him). But now, I'd much rather have defensive help, or another running back, or Tight End, or pretty much anything. They call him a "return specialist" but I have yet to see anything special.

4. I don't like player bashing (unless its about Kyle Orton), but this kid has got to go! maybe to the practice squad, or maybe somewhere else, but I will be severely disappointed if I see him lining up to field anymore punts or kickoffs. I feel bad for him, and want him to succeed, but these games mean far too much right now, to risk having him in there. Maybe next year in pre-season we can get him some work, and maybe he can build back up a trust with the fan base and coaching staff, but right now, he can not be allowed kick/punt return duties.

So despite all of the terrible fumbles and penalties, it was the Cosby one that really cost us. 3 points seems small in a game with 64 combined points, but the Cosby fumble and the subsequent field goal, looks to me like it was the straw that broke the Broncos back.

One more thing... I want another shot at the Patriots I know we can beat them, and Denver will be a forced to be reckoned with come playoff time. They have two weeks to fix the turnovers and penalties, Denver is really close to being able to beat, "Elite" teams.

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Well it definitley would have been a different score at least

lol. But I think that the extra needed possession was just too much to handle.

by Tony Astorino on Dec 19, 2011 9:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe 3 points less to the final board so?

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by Fabio Broncos on Dec 21, 2011 8:49 PM MST up reply actions  

We still lose, but that was the dumbest play of the season and Cosby should be cut for it. can’t have stupid players on a team with no error for such stupidity.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 19, 2011 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Not sure why coach even had anybody back to field the punt....

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by bonaire on Dec 19, 2011 9:55 PM MST up reply actions  

because

he can’t predict stupidity. No sense letting them simply down the ball on the one yard line without an opportunity for a fair catch around the ten first. That is a prescription for a safety and kicking the ball back to them.

by idahobronc on Dec 19, 2011 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

with 3 seconds left?

Heck, by the time it rolled to the 1 yard line there wouldn’t have been any time. But agreed Crosby was dumb to even try to field that punt.

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by bonaire on Dec 19, 2011 10:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t get it. Fox makes one or two incredibly dumb decisions per game and that worries me.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2011 8:01 AM MST up reply actions  

What bothers me is that he is a repeat offender.

Not necessarily in fumbling, but with inadvisable returns.

by idahobronc on Dec 19, 2011 10:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm not sure about cut - Cosby has been a pretty good returner so far

I’d def. bench him tho for this upcoming game!

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by Broncs55 on Dec 20, 2011 6:54 AM MST up reply actions  

pretty good?

He has done nothing other than be average. He was good his 1st game here, and has tailed off considerably since that point. I don’t see any upside (with a few nfl stops under his belt I would expect he would be ready to move forward not backward). So I agree with the cut him sentiment. We have a couple of guys that are more consistent, and better at that job, lets bring in another guy for a shot at impressing.

by brettden on Dec 20, 2011 7:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Cosby is a dime a dozen scrub that we could replace with a few phone calls.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2011 8:01 AM MST up reply actions  

He is a returning player... and has no other shows on any other kind of play

So what’s your point to bench him? He was dumb at his only task… what would change with him being benched? nothing… cut and sign another.

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by Fabio Broncos on Dec 21, 2011 8:50 PM MST up reply actions  

he sucked...

But let’s not make him the goat. Maybe he made himself the goat, but let’s not make this a witch hunt. Haha. Im just saying sometimes people and players funk up but if you give them just that one mo chance they come thru in ways you never expected. Ahhh to hell with it, I’ve always maintained champ bailey should return everything and be our #2 reciever

by LC43EU on Dec 19, 2011 10:13 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

He deserves to a goat.

Tebow got a lot of bad field position or no position at all due to Cosby. If he watched tape of NE’s special teams on coverage he’d have known it wasn’t worth the risk trying to make something out of nothing.

Lance Ball too. The Patriot DT who knocked that ball out said he saw that Ball had a weak grip on it. Ball security and special teams are fundamentals.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Dec 19, 2011 10:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I will agree that Cosby had a terrible game and made repeated mistakes, but I think to blame him as why we lost the game is foolish. Up until that game, Cosby had one of the highest return averages in the league. The talent is there and he could become a real asset in the future for this team. I say give the kid a break. He had a bad day. Who hasn’t? If this becomes a trend thats one thing, but lets see if he can shake it off and get back to his form prior to Sunday’s loss. It’s not like he is the only player on the 53 man roster who screwed up at crucial times during the game.

"If we cannot find a way, we will make one." -Hannibal

by AvalancheRescueDog on Dec 20, 2011 12:55 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

eh

He is # 5 in kick return yards per return (26.9 I think), but not enough returns to make the list (only 17). He did have one big return (63 yards), and his other 16 returns average about 24.5 yds per return. According to Football Outsiders we are 21st in the league in starting field position (11th on the defensive side). Maybe that is on Quan, maybe on the group as a whole. Bottom line he is not exceptional, and in recent weeks he has been more detrimental than average. I expect that is not a situation that keeps you around long. If he does not improve he will be gone soon. Only exceptional talents typically have the opportunity to make more than a few major mental errors before they get gone.

His punt return numbers put him in the middle of the pack . . .

by brettden on Dec 20, 2011 7:53 AM MST up reply actions  

No sense crying over spilled milk...

Now that he’s made the mistakes, maybe it will reduce the chance of him messing up again. I doubt he’s on the team next year… and honestly… if it keeps Eddie healthy for the next 2 weeks and we have Royal back there in the playoffs… Its worth keeping him.

by Triz06 on Dec 20, 2011 8:06 AM MST reply actions  

Cut Cosby find a Veteran safety (like

Make Royal permanent KR/PR (4th wide receiver).

Matt Willis has better chemistry with Tebow anyways so he can go to slot.

Find a veteran Safety to take that roster spot (like convince Darren Sharper to come out of retirement) since our Safeties suck without Dawkins.

Atheist for Tim Tebow!

by CombatChuk on Dec 20, 2011 9:15 AM MST reply actions  

to me it seems

Matt is catching the ball better than Royal also. Another fact, Royal was the pitch guy on Tebow’s fumble, granted he isn’t the largest guy on the field, but he should have been able to get to that loose ball faster than a lineman. I have been unimpressed (to say the least) with Royals production for the last two seasons. I say keep him for ST and we get one more solid WR in the draft.

As far as our safety’s, the two rookies played like rookies in this game. Both missed too many easy tackles that resulted in HUGE plays for the Pats. Against an offense like that you need to get back to the basics. To me it seems as if the coaching staff hasn’t taught them a damn thing in the way of proper tackling form, i.e hitting at the waist and wrapping up!! They are constantly hitting high and not wrapping up. I put the blame for that on coaching, this should be drilled into them at every practice until it sticks, if it doesn’t set in then get rid of em.

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by Disturbed70 on Dec 20, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Cosby isn't playing with confidence

I look at Cosby and I see a guy perpetually worried about having a job. He’s looking to make an impact and taking gambles. I appreciate taking a risk for a big payoff, but get it done. If you aren’t getting it done. We can find someone who can.

by Kwon on Dec 20, 2011 9:51 AM MST reply actions  

Have to chime in on this subject

The problem with having Cosby as the return man is that that is his only job. He is selfishly worrying about making an impact instead of doing the smart thing and just fair catching the ball or taking the touchback. His mistakes were huge, and they must not be repeated.

by cskilly on Dec 20, 2011 4:36 PM MST reply actions  

I think its a horrible idea to put a starter in at PR/KR

Remember when McD ran D. Thomas out as a kick returner? Dude got killed!

You put your starting WR in at PR/KR and he is not long for this world.

by charlesnelsonreilly on Dec 20, 2011 5:50 PM MST reply actions  

That was just one reason...

why McD was a complete moron. He took a first round draft pick with very little NFL game speed experience and a history of injuries and threw him into THE most dangerous job on the field. Royal should have been the returner and DT should have been 2nd or 3rd receiver with Decker and Lloyd.

Speaking of Royal, I love the guy (have his jersey), but at this point he needs to switch over to returner full time and work only from WR screens. He hasn’t been able to gain separation for 2 years now and Tebow doesn’t have the accuracy / timing to hit him on many short routes.

by Linmoo on Dec 21, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

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