Offseason Priority #1: A Defensive Field General
The Problem: The popular narrative on MHR is that we must draft a CB at all costs, most likely in the first round. While I agree that CB might be a big defensive need in the near future, there is something that is even more pressing on the defensive side of the ball. When Brian Dawkins, who is old and past his prime, is off the field, our defense changes. I have noticed, as many others have, that our defense is not as cohesive when he is gone. Dawkins is a leader, vocally and physically. We have no leader on defense other than Dawk.
Champ Bailey, D.J. Williams, Elvis Dumervil, and Von Miller are all great players, but for various reasons, they are not on the same level of leadership that Dawkins is on. In Champs defense, it is really hard to be the vocal leader on defense when you are thirty yards away from a play chasing the opposing teams top WR.
Right or wrong, for better or worse, a team's defensive identity is usually formed around it's middle linebacker. Sure, teams can win without a strong middle linebacker (Packers among others), but it seems rare. I think our team needs a defender who will call the plays, put everyone where they need to be, and bring a cohesion between the front seven and back four by way of communication and clarity.
The Remedy: Luke Kuechly MLB 6'2" 240lbs.
I can give out all of the glowing scouting reports but I won't. I will just show you some of his numbers for the last three years:
Year Tot Solo Ast Sack
2011 191 102 89 0
2010 183 110 73 1.5
2009 142 81 61 1.0
Refutations against probable arguments:
1. Kuechly is not athletic enough. Actually, in my mind, productivity trumps measurements. There have been few players as productive in the history of college football as Luke Kuechly. People said the same thing about James Laurinaitis a couple of years ago and Kuechly is twice the player that Laurinaitis was. Reportedly, Kuechly runs a high 4.6 to low 4.7 40, which I'm not too concerned with. The primary thing to remember is that instincts are king when scouting a MLB.
2. Kuechly is not big enough to be a MLB. As I said recently, Sean Lee, for the Dallas Cowboys, is playing out of his mind. Sean is under 240lbs and is playing MLB in a 3-4. Mike Mayock said that Sean Lee does not want to play over 240lbs because he is less effective if heavier. Mayock said that with the evolution of the passing game in the NFL, a MLB under 240 is almost preferable now.
3. We need a CB now because we are getting hammered. I don't disagree with this. I would just say that we need a defensive leader more.
4. We need to give Nate Irving time to develop. I'm not necessarily against this. I just have serious doubts about a guy not able to crack the lineup when Joe Mays is playing so average.
Some arguments for Luke Kuechly:
1. Evaluation is easier than projection AND evaluation. In other words, Luke Kuechly plays in a 4-3 as a MLB and we know almost exactly what we are going to get. If we draft him we are going to get someone who will likely average over 125 tackles a game for years. He is a known quantity.
2. Chris Harris has been playing amazing football. I don't know if I would be the farm on him yet but I am very comfortable with him in the nickel and I am curious if he is capable of moving to our #2 CB position next year.
3. Champ Bailey literally shows no sign of slowing down. If Champ were suddenly getting beaten week in and week out, I would probably change my tune. However, I think he has another couple years left in the tank.
4. We need a defensive leader for years to come. Luke Kuechly will enter the NFL and arguably have the best instincts in the entire game. He has not been injured and has not missed a game. We need a player to bring cohesion to the front and back sides of our defense. A LB trio of DJ, Von, and Kuechly would be crazy!
I have very strong thoughts about some other players I want in later rounds but for now I will focus on this. I apologize, I won't be able to comment and respond too much on this post immediately because I have tons of family in town and have to go to work. What are your thoughts?
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I remember Champ getting beat bad only once this year by Calvin Johnson
And that was mostly because Champ fell. If this MLB is the real deal, I have no problems with grabbing him up in the 1st round. That doesn’t mean that I give up on Irving either, Irving played on the outside as well in college and could be used as a solid rotational guy, regardless Irving has played well on special teams and has a role there. Here is what could happen:
Champ remains #1 for another year or two, Chris Harris becomes #2. Goody is either let go, or becomes a nickleback. Next year we’ll have Squid return and he can be the nickleback of Goody isn’t here——or grab a guy like that from the middle rounds. Use the #1 or #2 rd pick on this guy you speak of.
Anyway, we have depth issues in the secondary, so if no great prospect is left where we’re picking, we can get a field general.
by Bronco Mike on Dec 27, 2011 11:10 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I watched this kid play tonight in the bowl game, Louieville vs North Carolina St.
12/26/11: Cole has put together a solid senior season. In 2011, he has recorded 98 tackles with 9.5 tackles for a loss, 3.5 sacks, four forced fumbles and four passes broken up. Cole can be a tough defender in the tackle box with good instincts. In the spring of 2011, North Carolina State moved him to the middle linebacker spot. In 2010, for the second straight year, Cole led the team in tackles. He recorded 97 tackles with 10.5 tackles for a loss as an outside linebacker. As a sophomore, Cole led the team in tackles with 85. He needs to get bigger for the NFL.

Audie Cole, ILB, North Carolina State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 239.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
Projected Round (2012): 3-4.
He had some good plays and he had some not so good plays, but overall it wasn’t too bad. On 2 consecutive plays he shadowed the TE in coverage and made a tackle for loss on a 4th and 1. He passed rushed out of the SLBer position, blitzed from the MLBer position and made plays at the WILL. Basically he was everywhere and has very good instinct to the ball even though he takes a bad angle every once in a while.
"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...
BTW, if he's there in the 3rd I'd take this long haired country boy...
I failed to mention above that Kuechly won’t be available when we draft imo…I believe EFX will either finally draft a 1st rd DT or a CB. That’s my gut feeling on it…
"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...
by bfree2bronc on Dec 27, 2011 11:42 PM MST up reply actions
bfree....
You are right about him possibly not being there when we draft. The problem is, I don’t know when we are going to draft! By the way, what round do you think your Boise State running back is going to go in?
Right now we're sitting around 21-24 I believe if we make the playoffs, if we don't then maybe 18-20.
After reading Rodney’s comment down below and taking it to thought last night I sort of agree with it.
Doug Martin may go anywhere from rd 3 to UFA. We saw it happen with LaGarrett Blount and couple of years ago when he was touted a late 1st or early 2nd, He went UFA. Same with Mario Fannin. You just don’t know, but if he’s still around with one of the 5th rd picks then I’d grab him. He is one tough little dude…
"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...
by bfree2bronc on Dec 28, 2011 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
Bfree ~ swg
I think it’s a forgone conclusion Kuechly will not be on the board when we select. I would almost bet my life we’d have to trade up for him to get him.
I’m with you all the way though. A lot of people on here seem to disagree that MLB should be a TOP priority for us in the draft. John Fox and Dennis Allen need their own versions of Jon Beason and Jonathan Vilma. When both aforementioned players are healthy, they make the defense go.
Having said all that… I would happily sacrifice some athleticism for instincts / smarts / leadership. Kuechly, or someone of his caliber, would be ideal for this defense. Joe Mays is a backup / 3rd stringer on some teams…. probably enough teams to shock you. He is a 1 down thumper….. that’s it. We need a guy who can cover at MLB as well, but I think a strong emphasis should be put on run stopping, because of who we face in the division.
KC: Jamal Charles, Jackie Battle, (insert draft pick or free agent), Le’Ron McClain. This team can put up rush yards on you in a hurry. I’d preferably like to have a Mike with instincts + athleticism to stop Charles. We forget just how sickeningly good that dude is when healthy.
OAK: Darren McFadden….. nuff said. Michael Bush is most likely gone through free agency, so just bank on them finding a successful backup. They always run the football with authority, and seem to always get production out of their backups as well…… Bush…. Fargas.
SD: This is the team that really makes someone want an elite Mike Backer when facing them. You need someone who can cover with the best of them….. provide some well timed pass rush….. and have the instincts / stoutness to stuff the run. Ryan Matthews and Mike Tolbert scare me, as they should you.
I like Kuechly…. he could be a great player…. along the lines of Paul Posluszny or Laurinaitis but even better. Still, I’d love to find a guy who has great coverage skills / athleticism, along with the instincts. It’s just so rare though. Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, and Urlacher types don’t come around too often.
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A defensive field general is a major priority. I do agree but I'm not following the dots
Not all great players are great leaders. Luke is an incredibly instinctual tackling machine, but I’m confused as to why he’s being mentioned as the lone solution to our #1 priority of needing a defensive field general. I’ve never heard him called a big time leader or any other variation of it. He’s not a hard hitter. He’s not an emotional leader. And I’ve never even heard of him being called the quarterback of their defense (although he probably is just due to the nature of the position and his experience).
I think there are dots being connected here that don’t necessarily connect. There are two separate issues. Do you want to upgrade the MLB position, or are you looking for a defensive general like the title says, and like the post talks about? IMO, we simply cannot look at Luke Kuechly as a solution to us needing a defensive general. He would be an upgrade over Joe Mays and would be a replacement for Nate Irving, but he’s not going to lead our defense this year. He’s just not.
Will he the following year? Maybe. But isn’t it just as likely that Nate Irving would be leading the defense by then also? If so, what have we done by adding Kuechly? The answer is that we upgraded Irving before knowing if Irving needed an upgrade, while doing so only because we wanted a field general… while knowing that Nate Irving was known as one – as a true quarterback of the defense – much moreso than Luke.
It’s entirely possible that Nate Iring or Quinton Carter can lead the defense next year, and even more likely that one of them can step into that role by the following year. Irving was at least known for leadership and for “quarterbacking” his defense in a very high degree, whereas I’ve never heard the same about Luke. He’s not a big hitter. He’s not an emotional leader. And I’ve never even heard that teammates look to him for leadership or even to get them lined up correctly. I’ve heard he’s been working on being more vocal, which to me means it doesn’t come naturally.
Since no immediate solution can be had… Patience, instead, must be had, IMO. Bring in a vet at safety to compete with the youngsters and allow someone to earn a leadership role. A rookie isn’t going to do it anyway, so you might as well find out if we have one before we draft a guy we may not need.
Luke Kuechly would be an upgrade over Mays and a replacement for Nate Irving. If that’s your goal, then it’s a different debate. If the goal is to find a defensive leader, then we should look to a guy who’s actually been called a defensive leader a little more often (like Irving). And if the idea is to find a field general immediately, then looking to the draft is just completely wrong, IMO.
So we had a bad game. What. There's no crying in football. Dust yourselves off and keep that knee from jerking. The Broncos still control their own destiny. And I have faith in that.
by Rodney A on Dec 27, 2011 11:34 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Good points but...
Sometimes connecting the dots is redundant. If you have watched Luke Kuechly play, you can tell he has tremendous on the field leadership. I wrote this post for those who already have a familiarity with the draft and likely draft picks. I didn’t write it for the people who haven’t heard of him and therefore didn’t go into his biography etc.
If you Google “Luke Kuechly leader” and survey the first three pages alone, you will find many references to his leadership on and off of the field.
Obviously I want to upgrade the MLB position also. I’m not privy to inside information but I’m thinking that Nate Irving has likely been a disappointment to the organization.
Drafting a first round MLB with elite instincts almost always means the guy is an immediate starter and would contribute immediately. I don’t buy the notion that he wouldn’t contribute right away or wouldn’t lead right away.
You mentioned that he is not a big hitter. I’m not sure I agree with your premise but I will acknowledge that he isn’t known as a big hitter and is certainly more of a technician than a hitter. Joe Mays is a big hitter who has horrible instincts and whiffs in every other tackle attempt. I’m fine with someone who actually makes the tackle.
The guys you mentioned in the post like Brian Dawkins and Ray Lewis are the heart and soul of their defense. It’s what most of us think of when lusting after our next great field general. Lewis and Dawkins are incredibly rare, but the point I was making is that a guy like Rolando McClain comes in and is literally called “the heart and soul” of the Alabama defense. Even a guy like Nate Irving was raved about as to how he was the one teammates looked to for leadership – that he was the quarterback of the defense. These are the things we’re looking for in a field general.
If I google DJ Williams, Broderick Bunkley, Wesley Woodyard, Elvis Dumervil, etc.. and add the word leadership, they’re all going to come back with some leadership hits. But that’s not really what we’re talking about is it? Your guy isn’t known for being a solution to the problem you’re looking at him to solve. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not questioning whether he’s a great player. I’m only saying that he’s not known to carry the characteristics of doing what you’re suggesting he would do… be THE leader of our defense.
And your point wasn’t lost on me where you insinuated that maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about. If I’m wrong, show me. Your entire premise here is that you want Luke to be the new field general and leader of our defense. I’ve seen nothing to suggest he has that skill set any more than a guy we already have.
My take on it is that you want an upgrade at MLB and you packaged it into giving Luke credit for something he’s not often given credit for… the real big time leadership that we all hope to find for our defense.
So we had a bad game. What. There's no crying in football. Dust yourselves off and keep that knee from jerking. The Broncos still control their own destiny. And I have faith in that.
Dude,
I didn’t realize I was talking with my wife. Don’t be a sensitive internet geek. I treat my posts like I’m sitting around with a group of guys scratching my nuts and seeing who can fart the loudest. Don’t be so thin-skinned. Ray Lewis and Dawkins are once a decade type of leaders. I’m not at all insinuating that Luke is that. I’m saying that he could be a much better version of James Laurinaitis, who is a pretty good player and who seems to have similar intangibles.
Another strike against Luke is that his team’s defense sucked, which might be a negative against the leadership quality of making his team mates better. Make no mistake, your premise is well taken when you question whether or not Luke is a leader. All I know is what I see on TV and read on the internet. I’m really not sure. I have a good feeling, but I’m not positive.
Your comment of “I’ve seen nothing to suggest he has that skill set any more than a guy we already have” is outrageous. If you are talking pure leadership, I think I can see your point. If you are talking physical skill set, then I am lost.
Again, I was hoping readers could read between the lines when I didn’t really stress that MLB is a need position for us and Luke would fill that need. I thought it was implied.
Don't mistake me for sensitive for mentioning that a guy who obviously doesn't know what he's talking about was acting like I don't know what I'm talking about
Your comment of "I’ve seen nothing to suggest he has that skill set any more than a guy we already have" is outrageous. If you are talking pure leadership, I think I can see your point. If you are talking physical skill set, then I am lost.
Of course I’m talking about leadership. That’s all this post is about… leadership. It opens with leadership, it’s titled about finding leadership and it ends with leadership. I’ve been clear that Luke is a good player. I’ve been talking about what your entire post is talking about… leadership. I’ve gotten your point all along. Do you get mine?
I’m saying that you pulled the bait and switch. You spent the whole top half of the post speaking of leadership and how finding a field general is our top priority, and then once the bait is set, you spent the whole 2nd half of the post trying to selling us on your draft crush as a solution – a guy who isn’t known for being any of the things you spoke of.
I didn’t say he had to be like Urlacher or Dawkins or Lewis. I said that if you’re going to try and sell us on this guy being a solution to our current need of a big time leader then maybe you should make up some leadership quotes at least. Brian Dawkins he is not. But he’s also not Rolando McClain or even Nate Irving (yes, leadership is what I’m talking about again – quarterbacking a defense…. you know, what this post was supposedly about).
You’re baiting the audience with buzz words like leadership and field general to try and sell them on upgrading Nate Irving. When in truth, Luke isn’t known for being a field general, certainly not more than Irving. This whole post is just a thinly veiled attempt at upgrading our MLB position. It’s certainly not about finding an on field general. Because Luke Keulchy isn’t one.
So we had a bad game. What. There's no crying in football. Dust yourselves off and keep that knee from jerking. The Broncos still control their own destiny. And I have faith in that.
by Rodney A on Dec 28, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
swg77 take a look at this article that I found...

"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...
by bfree2bronc on Dec 28, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Let’s try here…
"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...
by bfree2bronc on Dec 28, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Great article! Thanks for sharing Bill! :)
I remember hearing about his car accident when it happened – it’s amazing that the man has overcome adversity. I’ve always been rooting for him… I guess off-season and training camp will show us a lot more about this young man.
I think that this year being hampered with no offseason teaching became a factor to starting veteran Joe Mays.
Next year will tell a different tale I believe.
"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...
I agree
I’ve read in more than one place that NFL MLB position is one of the toughest to learn. I don’t think it’s odd to hold him back for the entire first year. We used to do this regularly with offensive linemen, and we did it with Decker, too. Not opposed to drafting either MLB or WLB, and letting the best two of him, DJ, Nate, and Mays start, but I am not convinced this is a pressing need. I think the bigger need is to figure out a different answer for Woodyard and use more three-down players.
Not in the first rd anyway.
I could see a LDE in the first rd contrary to somes beliefs. I have a feeling in the offseason Mr Miller is going to go through intensive training at his original (SAM) position. He will pass rush on deguises and stunts and his production shouldn’t be hindered with the right playcalls doing it. Robert Ayers’ pass rushing abilities is about as good as Andre Goodman’s pass defense and is a liability on passing downs where we’ve had to put Miller in his place. Often leading to a run to Millers side while he’s tangled up with a blocker. The reasoning is there right in front of us (EFX) to get a potential elite LDE and leave the LBer position alone, at least in the first. IMO LDE, CB and DT is of priority now and in that order.
"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...
Aldon Smith is the perfect example.
He’s a situational pass rusher but is still at 14 (I think?) sacks for the season.
Great find, fantastic read
I’d never seen that piece before.
With no offseason for a guy that’s only played LB for 4-5 years and MLB for only two years, it’s pretty easy to conclude why he wasn’t allowed the opportunity to quarterback an entire NFL defense on the fly, especially given the fact that he’d be the 2nd starting rookie linebacker on the team and the third or fourth rookie with a major role on the defense. It’s just too much. It’s doubtful he ever got a real shot, and it’s even more doubtful that he would have thrived if he had been forced into the mix so early.
Whether the great article you just posted, or any of his other scouting reports, these are the types of things that you want to hear when discussing a potential QB for your defense – a guy that hits hard, plays with a mean streak, incredibly insanely instinctual, a leader of men, a captain, the quarterback of the defense, the guy who gets them all lined up correctly. This is what we want to hear. And this is what we do hear when reading about Irving.
Not to mention his incredible 21.5 TFLs and 7 sacks in his last year. That’s crazy good production, and I’ll be it beats any linebacker in this class. TFLs and sacks are said to transfer over better than tackles. It means the guy can stack and shed and is always fast enough to be at or behind the line of scrimmage to make huge plays. I’m still man-crushing on this kid. Thanks for the reminder! And thanks for the link!
So we had a bad game. What. There's no crying in football. Dust yourselves off and keep that knee from jerking. The Broncos still control their own destiny. And I have faith in that.
Exactly Rodney and not only with Nate but all the other rookies and 2nd year players.
This next year is going to be a very exciting offseason with many expectations in store, from Rahim Moore learning how to position himself and reading NFL offenses to tackling technigues, Quinton Carter adding a couple of pounds of muscle and working on the same technigues, to Orlando Franklin getting hands on coach teaching from Magazu. Yep. This should be an exciting offseason…
"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...
I'm all for Nate Irving suceeding, but
given the lack of talent on display by Joe Mays every week, it is hard for me to have much hope in him if he can’t even sniff the field. I’m not rendering a verdict on Irving, I’m just relaying my sneaking suspicion.
Know I love your stuff man, but I think thats really reaching...Fox KNOWS D.....he is bringing the guy along slow.....
We are all getting caught up in the chance to make the play offs. Its been an EXCEPTIONAL season when you look at some of our holes. Next year is a whole new ball game.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Bill, stop talking sense would you man. How you doing, by the way my friend?
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Yeah, I am kinded scarred how many fans want to write off Irving. Hes going to be a player...
Look at this way. he was rated a 1st rounder a scant couple of seasons ago. Parcells said he was the best ILB in the draft. Anyone else thinking that they are sitting him to help him learn and heal and that he will be really good? Mays has been OK, good sometimes. WW has been good too. We are not as bad at LB as many think. Irving will be good, I have no doubts!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Good read bfree
Irving inherited a good number. I hope he can fill the huge void that Al left, and after reading that, I see no reason why he cant
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Agreed Rodney. We also have this guy called Von Miller that might be a pretty good leader for us. I think Nate will be good and we need to go the best CB we can find...
Let Champ teach and play, and then move him into FS with Carter. Would be stoked.
We really need to look at Kirkpatrick or Claiborne. i have faith in Harris to be a #2. i would also be good looking at Tru Johnson in the 3rd as well…we really need CB help!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
I'm back and forth on the CB issue
We def need one, and I prefer taking one in the first-round, simply because the position itself is so tough to find greatness at. I actually don’t think, though, that upgrading at CB would likely best improve our team in the short term. In the short term, it’s pretty rare for a corner to come in and light it up. Not even Patrick Peterson was able to do that. In the long term, however, it’s a position we certainly need to grrom.
I’d love to see Kirkpatrick drop to us. I also like Chase Minnefiled in the first or Jonathon Banks in the 2nd. I prefer each of their size and physicality both in coverage as well as their strength in run support.
I’d go with Kirkpatrick if we ever got lucky enough. After that, probably Devon Still. Probably a tie between Minefield and Lamar Miller after that. Fletcher Cox would probably round out the list. I’d be happy with any of them, but Kirkpatrick or Still would make my day.
So we had a bad game. What. There's no crying in football. Dust yourselves off and keep that knee from jerking. The Broncos still control their own destiny. And I have faith in that.
I disagree Boydy, but I have no way of saying you're wrong in the same breath.
To me, MLB is a HUGE priority…… even slightly over CB. Goodie is gone… Vaughn and Wilhite stink…. I understand that. But I think Champ, Chris Harris and a 2nd to 3rd round rookie + free agent can get us by until that elite CB falls to us in the draft.
I like Mays okay…. he’s not a hideous player, but let’s face it, the dude has NO business starting. Either Nate Irving is taking a red shirt to learn the intricacies, or he stinks worse than Mays. Either way, I don’t feel safe.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
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by PaleHorse78 on Dec 28, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
Pale, not syaing its not a priority, I just see a lot of upside in Irving is all...
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
likely average over 125 tackles a game for years.
Draft him. Trade everyone on the defense if you have to, but draft him.
:D
8-3. I have seen the future, and the future is bright.
if this guy can make tackles for both teams all day, then get him.
Playoffs!?!? Playoffs!?!? Don't talk about Playoffs!! Playoffs?!?!
that's awesome
Tackle him and force a fumble! Wait for the next guy to pick it up, then tackle him! Every play!
This scouting report would suggest he would not be worth a 1st round pick
http://ogdraft.com/2011/12/luke-kuechly-scouting-report/
This is of course but one view – they love his instincts and work ethic but his lack of coverage skills & lack of athleticism is going to make him a liability in coverage. Which means he’s a 1st/2nd down player only.
That suggests at most a 2nd round pick. If that scouting report is accurate of course….
What would Blackie Lawless do?
I have read that....
For every scouting report like that, there are about 6 or 7 that say the opposite. I’ll take those odds!
That was the only one I could find quickly!
As a great believer in the wisdom of crowds I’m happy to go with Kuechley if the majority of reports say he is servicable in coverage. Obviously his tackling skills at the heart of defence would be a huge plus.
Anyone remember what Al Wilson was like in coverage? He was a tackling beast and provided leadership. We have not been the same since he retired.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
by British Bronco on Dec 28, 2011 6:24 AM MST up reply actions
I miss Al
One of the most underrated Broncos of my lifetime
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by SinCityBronco on Dec 28, 2011 8:53 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Amen!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
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He couldn't be worse than Joe Mays in those departments
In fact, I’d say he’s boatloads better than Mays in those depts.
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So many needs only one pick.
It was painful watching DJ and Woodyard get whipped last week since they are two of our best LBs.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Would Zach Brown be an upgrade over DJ?
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by SinCityBronco on Dec 28, 2011 8:54 AM MST up reply actions
I think so...
If nothing, that 4.3 speed is exactly what we need in a versatile LB.
agreed
DJ is a fine player, but I’m not sure he’s worth the money we’re paying him at this point. Perhaps we can package him in a deal with the Redskins???
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Speaking of the Redskins
They cut Torain recently. I think he’d be the type of back we need here in Denver, and we could probably pick him up on the cheap to see if he works. If not, cut him again.
The Redskins need some help that we can provide, for sure. A package with DJ, Royal, and maybe a 2013 pick could work out in our favor. It’ll be interesting to see how things work out this off-season.
agreed
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by PaleHorse78 on Dec 28, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
Do you think Kuechly will make it out of the top 10 or even top 15?
I have a feeling the Buccs or Eagles will take him long before we can. Our pick will likely come down to Janoris Jenkins, Devon Still, Whitney Mercilus, Lamar Miller, Zach Brown, Vontaze Burfict, Chase Minnifield, or Brandon Thompson.
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I love Mercilus, Still, Brown, or Minnifield..
Although I don’t think Still will make it out of the top 20, either.
Honestly, I hope Janoris Jenkins falls to us
I think he’d be the best bang for our buck in round 1. We could go after Derek Wolfe in round 2 if we really want a pass rushing defensive tackle. We could go after Audie Cole in round 3 for an inside linebacker.
Good cornerbacks are so hard to come by.
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by SinCityBronco on Dec 28, 2011 8:43 AM MST up reply actions
Concurred...
I just don’t know if he will work out. Look at all the CBs that have come in on the first round – none are really making an impact as a solid #1 cover corner. Not saying they won’t progress, it’s just hard to gauge 1st round CBs/DBs in general.
I think its easy to gauge their talent
What’s difficult is for teams to restrain themselves in overreaching for them in a draft because the team needs a replacement fast. CB has roughly the same NFL transition time as QB or WR or OT — two to three years before they “get it” and breakout. Teams overreach simply because some college CB’s are faster transition types and teams confuse that with upside.
Morris Claiborne – very fast transition to NFL; prob #2 upside
Dre Kirkpatrick – normal transition to NFL; #1 upside
Alonzo Dennard – fast transition to NFL; prob #2 upside
Janoris Jenkins – normal transition to NFL; #1 upside; character risk
Chase Minnifield – fast zone-only transition – but some holes: #2 upside
Stephon Gilmore – fast zone-only transition – but some holes: #2 upside
Those CB’s should all be off the board by the late 2nd round or they are absolute steals.
Below the above are a slew of normal transition, #2 upside types – Jayron Hosley, Brandon Boykin, Coryell Judie, Josh Robinson, DeQuan Menzie, Jamell Fleming, Robert Blanton, Casey Hayward, Danton Lynn.
For those guys, they will be equivalent to Perrish Cox (without the rape charges) or SydQuan Thompson in their first two/three years. Nickels with upside but you cross your fingers if you actually need them to start at CB opposite a good WR early on.
by yibberat on Dec 28, 2011 9:38 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
As an aside --
The reason the truly top CB’s (the 6 above) often appear “overdrafted” is because teams stick them in the starting lineup too early — and CB mistakes are easily the most costly mistakes of any player on the field. One big pass interference penalty or one lapsed coverage mistake and boom — the team has a loss.
by yibberat on Dec 28, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Valid point...
My take is that maybe FA would be a better option considering people like Finnegan and T Porter (NO) are going to become available.
I do still want a young CB, but for me, it’s difficult to determine how much more of an impact the first 6 guys you mentioned would have in comparison to the rest of them. If the separation isn’t distinct and absolute, I don’t see a reason to waste an early round pick on a CB.
I also think it’s much easier to gauge DTs and LBs in the early rounds, as the play makers in those positions are typically a safer bet to fill other holes that we need. :)
I think FA is prob the best option too
Last year, the need at CB was less immediate — but the top CB’s (except Brandon Harris) were gone by the time we were picking in the 2nd round. For whatever reason, the Broncos must not have liked Harris — or they drafted for need at free safety (which was more immediate last year).
At any rate, that window of opportunity closed last year. This year, we need a #2 who can step in on day one. I like Tracy Porter or Terrell Thomas as possible FA’s this year.
If Kirkpatrick falls to us in the 1st or Gilmore in the 2nd, I have no problem drafting a high CB. They have very long careers and far better to have too many than not enough. But trading up for them (losing draft picks we need) or overreaching is a problem.
Same happens with some MLB's too. Maybe our guys playing it smart bringing along Nate slowly?
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Good post SWG
I want an upgrade at MLB so damn bad. I’m just not sure that any of the first round MLB’ers will be BPA over say DT and CB. I think Beason is a FA this year. That would be sweet if foxy could pry him from Carolina.
I think we’ll all have a lot better view on the draft after Free Agency ends. There are a lot of really good FA I’d love to add this year.
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Nate if you have time check out the article above below Irving's picture...
It was written last May but it is a good post of information on him…
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BTW; Nate Irving had better stats in his last uear than Audie cole does now....do the math! Burflict is the best
We need a Cb, however picking around 21-25 has DT/DE/OT being the higher grades. Most top CBs are 4-20 (Morris Claiborne et al). We’d pick Devon Still or Brandon Thompson or Poe (Memphis).
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I am curious as to why you think Burfict is the best.
Your tag lines read," character is who you are, reputation is what they say about you"
“always have character, don’t be one” I have been paying a lot of attention to him this year, b/c I heard people talking about what a beast he is. He definitely is a beast. Unfortunately, he has a 10 cent brain. No control whatsoever. He picks up the stupidest personal foul penalties at the worst times. Do we really want someone like him? He has poor character.
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Why was Burfict benched against BoiseSt.? I never heard why.
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Kuechly's athleticism is a problem
I agree that he is the most “field general”-like MLB in the draft. But he is still gonna be a snot-nosed rookie and any team that puts a snot-nosed rookie in a general’s job is — well — North Korea. The way he will earn “field general” status on the Broncos is via his play on the field — and that will depend heavily on applying his athleticism/skills – successfully – at the NFL level – for a couple of years minimum. Unless his intangibles are so overpowering that they are akin to a jedi-mind trick for opposing offenses.
His athleticism is 2nd round talent — lower than either Donta Hightower or Vontaze Burfict. Better intangibles than those two — but overall – I see those three as all very equivalent – low bust, starter-level upside. Using our 2nd round pick to pick up whichever is available would be a far more effective drafting strategy IMO. If we had a very late 1st round pick, then I’d see a 1st round case for them
Don't get me wrong SWG.... I 100% agree with you that we need a field general...
but I think he may already be on the roster. Mr. Von Miller was a complete player / field general there in College Station. I believe with a couple more years of experience, he will take that Al Wilson / B Dawk role by the horns and become that QB for our defense.
If he doesn’t, which I highly doubt (rooks rarely plug in day 1 as a field general), I agree we need to find that man in a hurry.
I love Tim Tebow, but most of my buddies wouldn’t believe me when I told them Brian Dawkins was the glue that held this defense, and team to a point, together.
In a few years, Lord permitting, I believe Tim Tebow and Von Miller will be supreme leaders of men.
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Everyone seems to be forgetting
Dont’a Hightower. Is he really more out of reach than say Burfict? Hightower is a force in the middle of the best college defense in the nation
I'd be thrilled
Nick Saban gets those boys ready for prime time.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
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"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Dec 28, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
I'm not so sure...
Current NFL players from Alabama that are actually making an impact:
Marcel Dareus
Le’Ron McClain
DeMeco Ryans
Terrence Cody
Mark Ingram
Rolando McClain
Julio Jones
Sure, these are great names – but there is a list about 5 times bigger with names you probably wouldn’t recognize. Don’t get me wrong, I love Bama products, and I have nothing but love for Saban (I’m a Bama fan) – but I don’t think Hightower has the individual skills to be elite. He is the product of a solid defensive system where he isn’t really required to step outside his comfort zones.
His numbers are mediocre through his first few years. I’m not denying him as an athlete, but I’m not sold on him either. I’m not really sold on any LB prospects this year outside of Zach Brown — but I’m also of the mold that his speed will allow him to do things that other LBs can’t. His ceiling, IMO, is higher than any other LB in this draft, but I also don’t think he could be an impact player from Day 1.
Agree in some regards, but I would say if we go for an MLB we go
Donta Hightower, granted, he is a more traditional 3-4 ILB, but I think he can transition well to a 4-3 mike. I think he has more upside and did better against better competition. I also think he has those leadership qualities that you are looking for.
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I like Hightower
It all depends on his range in a 4-3 system
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by SinCityBronco on Dec 28, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Nice. I was just about to write the same thing. If Kuechly is on the board I think EFX will take him. I just have my doubts that he will be there when we pick. Hightower could be a excellent alternative as the BPA at a position of need. If Rolando McClain can make the transition to a 4-3, than there is no reason Hightower can’t do the same. Great instincts, leadership, and can be a nightmare in the middle for running games. The only issue with Hightower in the 1st may be his lack of pass coverage skills.
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by AvalancheRescueDog on Dec 28, 2011 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
Spot on!
It’d be like having Karl Mecklenburg (143 Tkls), Simon Fletcher (175 Tkls) and Michael Brooks (173 Tkls), our three LB’s of the 90’s, back in town during their best years. Run stuffing sack artists all rolled into one! It’s certainly what we need every year!
Your point is well taken. Now is the perfect time to get that guy in here and acclimated so that when Champ and Dawk are gone the transition will have been made smoothly. A Steve Atwater type at FS and a SS like Dennis Smith taking over for Brian Dawkins wouldn’t hurt us. Anybody know where those guy’s replacements are?
Together from 89’ – 93’ they each averaged 126 tkls apiece, for five strait years.

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What I don't understand from this
- an MLB pick in the 1st round - is why you would give up on Nate Irving so fast. He was just drafted last year – with a lockout – and a training camp injury. I would find it stunningly incompetent of the Broncos if we drafted a free safety, a tight end, or a linebacker this year. Those three positions accounted for seven of our draft picks last year.
Yeesh — with the lockout, you gotta give rookies a pass this year.
It worries me that Irving has only 4 tackles this year.
If he’s our go-to guy for next year, I would’ve liked to see him getting reps and playing time between Mays and Haggan. This would make sense as evaluating a player in the off season/OTAs/etc. isn’t nearly the same as being able to see their impact at game speed.
It’s concerning to me that this hasn’t happened with Irving or Mohammed. I’d love to see them do well and be on our starting roster next year, but who knows…
I think our TEs are covered – Thomas is a one-year-wonder at TE and is a basketball player; he obviously needs a little time to adjust to NFL football. What I’ve seen of Green so far, I’ve liked. He’s been putting up solid blocks in the run game and I believe he had a pretty decent catch against Buffalo.
Free safeties – I don’t know so much. Moore and Carter have been mediocre at best, and aren’t the kind of disruptive force we need.
Here are this years top 2011 tacklers.
D.J. Williams, 65
Wesley Woodyard, 60
Joe Mays, 58
Chris Harris, 54
Von Miller, 51
Andre’ Goodman, 40
Brian Patrick Dawkins, 38
Quinton Carter, 38
The production of the players playing the positions of the above group must double or triple for us to be in proper form. If Andre’ is in our top 8 Team Tackler group with just 40 tackles, then it isn’t hard to see that we have an issue.
However, when you review history, you see that the greatest tackling team we’ve had took a couple of years for most rookies to reach their potential, so like it or not, rebuilding takes time.

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by metalman5050 on Dec 28, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
So
any thoughts on how far and the cost of moving up to get Kirkpatrick? Estimate of course. Do you think this year’s 1st and next year’s 1st would be enough?
"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills
Doubtful.
Kirkpatrick and Claiborne are both projecting to go around the early double-digits in the first round. I don’t think we can drop 10-15 spots to get them without paying a king’s ransom. Unless one of them drops significantly, we’re best off looking at the likes of Minnifield, Jenkins, and some of the others out there.
I can see EFX trading some people to get ourselves an extra pick or two, but that’s about all the dissonance I can predict. They have the BPA mentality, and that really doesn’t open itself up to major changes in the 1st round draft order.
It depends
Amakamura fell right into the Giants lap at #19 last year. So it could happen that Kirkpatrick falls to #15 or below and we pull a draft day trade. But most likely the price will be too high.
Actually the opportunity that the Amakamura drop created is that the Giants may now be completely loaded at CB and might not feel like they need to sign Terrell Thomas.
footballsfuture's take on
Terrell Thomas (NYG) – Thomas was an above average number two cornerback prior to suffering a season-ending injury. He’s also one of the best in the league in run support, so if he can make a full recovery, he would be a valuable pick-up for a team looking to get physical on the perimeter.
"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills
I've always liked Thomas.
I think he’d be a solid guy on the other side of Champ, and learning from an 11-time pro-bowler could make it a fantastic comeback season for him.
Only ILB worth taking in 1st 3 rounds.
I watched him in 4 games you don’t play side line to side line like he has if you’re not athletic. Also check out his interception and pass defended numbers below. In Denver’s zone defense the MLB has to get a deep drop to protect the middle zone I have seen Kuechly do this very well. I don’t believe he will get past Philadelphia at 11 but I would trade quite a bit to move up for him.
Luke Kuechly*, ILB, Boston College
Height: 6-3. Weight: 237.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2012): Top 20.
12/26/11: This season, Kuechly was all over the field, giving a weekly illustration of how effective a linebacker can be when he has elite instincts and top-notch intelligence. Kuechly has enough speed to get in position to go along with excellent tackling technique. Against Miami, he set ACC and school records for career tackle totals, along with providing the game-winning score on a 45-yard interception return for a touchdown. The junior had nine tackles and his interception, plus a pass breakup that came deep downfield in tight coverage on speedster wide receiver Tommy Streeter. Kuechly was all over the field against Florida State, recording 20 tackles (plus helped force a fumble, but was not officially credited with it). All game, he made big plays and was always around the football.
For the season, Kuechly amassed 191 tackles with 12 tackles for a loss, three passes broken up and three interceptions. Kuechly was the lone bright spot on a disappointing team. If Boston College was bowl eligible, he would have, almost certainly, exceeded 200 tackles on the season. Assuming Kuechly enters the draft, he will leave college with a tackle total of 532. Kuechly has been racking up post-season awards, and there are no indications as to whether or not he is leaning toward entering the draft.
8/25/11: Luke Kuechly, a consensus All-American, led the nation in tackles in 2010 with 183. That included a 110 solo tackles. The All-American also contributed 10.5 tackles for a loss, 1.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and three interceptions. Kuechly has fabulous instincts and is extremely intelligent. He is a hard-working student of the game, and is a safe pick to be a productive, in-the-box run defender. As a freshman, Kuechly had 158 tackles with 13 tackles for a loss and four passes broken up. Kuechly is not an elite athlete, but definitely is a top-20 pick.
Report take from Walter football
Interesting
I found a player on our roster who was a highly rated ILB out of college (one spot above Joe Mays in the same draft year). Name is Spencer Larsen. Here’s the CBS scouting report from then (2008)
Positives: Has a well-proportioned frame with developing upper-body muscles and good thickness in his thighs and calves, with room to add at least another 10 pounds of bulk without losing quickness … High-motor type who plays with good intensity and aggression … Very alert and active to key and diagnose plays, showing the awareness, vision and instincts to call defensive assignments … Demonstrated much better ability and strength taking on blocks as a senior than he did in the past, as he refined his hand placement and improved his hand technique to prevent the blocker from gaining leverage … More quick than fast, but keeps his pad level down and shows the loose hips to redirect and chase down plays from the backside (see 2007 Southern California, Stanford and Washington games) … Has the power to take on fullbacks and clog the interior rush lanes. Does a nice job of staying on his feet and making plays moving down the line … Has the hip swerve to redirect and close from the outside (looked a bit stiff in his hips earlier in his career, but has shown a quicker flow to the ball as a senior. See 2007 Brigham Young and Stanford games) … Shows the lateral agility to flow with the play, staying low in his stance to extend his arms, wrap and secure the ballcarrier near the line of scrimmage … Unquestioned team leader who will not hesitate to take underperforming teammates to task … Shows no hesitation closing on the ball and is quick to track down ballcarriers, doing a nice job of redirecting the corner runners back inside … Has good tackling form, taking the ballcarrier’s outside leg to impede the opponent’s forward progress … Rare to see him fooled by misdirection or eye the backfield too long when playing in the zone … Uses his hands with force to jolt the blockers back and also in redirecting and jamming the tight ends at the line … Gets physical when taking on the tight ends, delivering strong hand placement to reroute his man away from the play, as he uses his strength effectively to easily jam the opponent … When he keeps his pads down, he shows the ability to slip through blocks … Combative working through trash, using his hands well to defeat the blockers attacking his feet … Has greatly improved his body control as a senior, as he no longer overextends when attempting to make tackles … Shows aggression filling the rush lane, lowering his head and driving with his legs to engage the fullback … Versatile athlete who can play the “Will” or “Mike” position … Reliable tackler who can break down and face up … Does not have the speed to play in the deep zone, but has the functional quickness to stay with slot receivers and tight ends in the short area … More of a downhill tackler, but is capable of making plays in front of him … Shows good anticipation skills and has developed good rip and swim moves to generate a quick outside blitz … Very intelligent, both on the field and in the classroom … Generally in position to make plays and engages the bigger blockers well, playing at the proper pad level with good knee bend … On the blitz, he has a solid hand jolt to maintain separation knifing through traffic and the closing burst to disrupt the quarterback in the pocket.
Negatives: Active and physical at the line of scrimmage, but must continue to improve his hand punch and keep his hands inside his frame to prevent the bigger blockers from getting underneath his jersey and washing him out of the play … Has good closing speed, but will struggle at times to recover and redirect when he outruns the play … Might be a better fit at the “Mike” position to compensate for a lack of explosive quickness to chase down the perimeter runners going long distances … Plays with great intensity, but will sometimes get too aggressive and get taken out of the play … Shows the functional foot agility to drop back in pass coverage, but does not have the pure speed to stay with the receivers on deep patterns.
Compares To: JAMES FARRIOR-Pittsburgh … Whether playing on the weak side or in the middle, Larsen is a high-intensity type who does a fine job of making plays in front of him. He has great field vision and ball-awareness skills and with his intelligence, he might be a better fit calling defensive signals from the middle. He has made very good strides improving his hand placement and punch as a senior and is relentless in his pursuit of the ball working through traffic.
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