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KB Rant: Kyle Orton, Heartbreak, and the Denver Broncos' Playoff Hopes

I was asked if I would want the Broncos to make the playoffs if I knew they'd lose in the first round.

Let me think... OF COURSE!

A wise man once said, "You play to win the game". A corollary of that statement is that by winning more than you lose, (usually) you make the playoffs. Therefore, by asking me if I wanted the Broncos to make the playoffs, what he was really asking me was if I wanted the Broncos to win.

Easy question. Easy answer. As a Broncos fan, I have to say "yes".

Now, does losing in the playoffs make me happy? Of course not. However, we are nowhere near the "suck for Luck" range. There's no point in losing games on purpose. That's not what football is all about. What would be the advantage of losing the week 17 game against the Kansas City Chiefs? You can't come up with an answer off the top of your head? Don't worry, I'll wait...

Star-divide

If you're still sitting there thinking, let me go ahead and talk about why losing to the Chiefs is not an option. Quite the opposite, really... losing to the Chiefs will be one of the most devastating losses in recent history (which is no small feat, considering how Broncos fans have had our fair share of devastating losses, as of late). The biggest reason why losing would be devastating is Kyle Orton.

Kyle Orton

John Elway, John Fox and Brian Xanders made the decision to waive Kyle Orton a few weeks ago and were probably thinking that Chicago would be the prime landing spot for Orton. Most of the country thought the same thing. But when the Chiefs stepped in and took the 2 million dollar hit to get Orton, there's no doubt that the Broncos triumvirate was having seller's remorse. Maybe not right away, but as the season unfolded and the week 17 match up against Kansas City loomed, a sick feeling probably came over them all. How awful would it be to lose a game against a quarterback that you shipped out of town just a few weeks ago? One word... Very.

I can tell you, for a fact, that Kyle Orton wants to beat the Broncos. He doesn't just want to beat us, he wants to embarrass us. Wouldn't you? You're minding your own business in Chicago when you're involved in one of the biggest offseason dramas in recent history. You arrive in a city that is still angry that Jay Cutler left and you're thought of as just a bridge between Cutler and "the next guy". How's that feel? Good? You put in all this work and win your first 6 games and suffer a few injuries while the fanbase and organization continues looking for "the next quarterback". You're benched for some unproven hybrid quarterback/fullback and then put on waivers a few weeks later. Now, all of a sudden, you're presented an opportunity to knock this team out of the playoffs. This week, if Kyle Orton is spending fewer than 25 hours a day in preparation for this game, I'd be very surprised.

The opposition really wants this win, but what about the Broncos? I bet they'll be playing inspired ball, too. After suffering an embarrassing thrashing against the Bills, Denver will be looking to get this nasty taste of losing out of their mouths. Looking back on the game, as a fan, I'm ALMOST glad that we lost (maybe it's a coping mechanism). If we won the game in Buffalo, we'd still need to win at Kansas City to guarantee a playoff berth. The way I see it, we might as well be playing with a major chip on our shoulder and a feeling of desperation. If we had beaten the Bills, I could see the week 17 Kansas City game unfolding much the same way the 2006 49ers game did. However, after listening to a lot of post-game reaction from the players, I think it's easy to notice how motivated they are to put forth a good effort this Sunday. I hope their play is as good as their preparation.

The Ramifications of the Game

There are just a few days until the regular season is concluded. We have to face Kyle Orton and the Chiefs. It's all on the line. The stakes haven't been this high against a division rival since the 2008 December beatdown we suffered against the Chargers.

Who's the guy that will get the majority of the praise/damnation after this game? Tim Tebow, of course. I don't care what John Elway said a few weeks ago, this game will make or break the Tim Tebow era. If the Broncos win, we ride into the playoffs aboard our orange and blue bandwagon, singing the praises of our left handed beast of a quarterback. If the Broncos lose, the critics will swarm, conjuring stories of Tebow's inability to win at this level and slandering Broncos Country for our inability to play in December.

Granted, we should be excited that the Broncos have done so well following their 1-4 start... and I am. Before the season started, I said that I'd be completely satisfied with a record near 8-8. However, now that we've achieved that mark, I will be unsatisfied with anything less than 9-7. Circumstances change. It's great that we're doing well, but it's never satisfying to have a division rival prematurely end your season. That's unacceptable.

I'll be completely honest with you, too. If we lose the game on Sunday, I'll be in a very dark place for a while. The Broncos will have had December playoff hopes in 2006, 2008, 2009, and 2011, only to have the door slammed in their face. Then, consider the Damien Nash and Darrent Williams deaths after the 2006 season and the Kenny McKinley suicide a few years later. That is a lot of heartbreak in a short amount of time. This team hasn't been in the playoffs since Jake Plummer led us to the AFC Championship game in 2005. That's too long, folks. It has been a lot of fun to be able to talk optimistically the past few weeks, but it would be doubly as painful to have our playoff hopes squandered in the final week of the season... again.

We need a shot in the arm. This team needs a playoff berth as much as this fanbase does. The first decade of the 2000's are behind us, but we can't let the demons of yesterday affect us today.

Beating the Chiefs and going to the playoffs is the best way to move forward. Is this a Super Bowl year? Probably not, but it doesn't mean we should quit and hope for a higher draft pick. This game means a lot. It means playoffs. It means beating a division foe. It means vindicating the decisions of John Fox, John Elway and Brian Xanders. It means shutting up the critics. It means bragging rights for the next 8 months. It means laying to rest the December demons that have haunted this team over the past few years.

The Broncos have to win.

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This will go down as one of the most epic games in Bronco history.

The hype and story to it is too good.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Dec 28, 2011 11:04 AM MST reply actions  

They mug unleash the Tebow, play from the shotgun, and do some easy dump offs to rbs and shallow crossing patterns...let Tebow get in a rhythm and keep the defense off balance.

They haven’t done it for weeks….here’s hoping they pull their heads out of their posteriors and fully utilize our weapons and make sure they always have to guard against the Tebow run.

The wise man knows that he doesn't know everything, not even close...

by Soonerbronco on Dec 28, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Mug was supposed to be must...autocorrect....

The wise man knows that he doesn't know everything, not even close...

by Soonerbronco on Dec 28, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

this

release the Tebow

if he’s a gamer, will be just fine

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks.

The wise man knows that he doesn't know everything, not even close...

by Soonerbronco on Dec 28, 2011 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Epic? We win the next 5 in a row and that would be epic...

"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...

by bfree2bronc on Dec 28, 2011 4:25 PM MST up reply actions  

we'd have to invent a new word.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Dec 28, 2011 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

"Tebowed"

We already got one, as in telling the other team the Broncos beat, “You’ve just been Tebowed.”

If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.

by OrangeandBluesBros on Dec 28, 2011 7:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Epic

I agree it will be epic either way. I just sooooo hope for a win, no matter if it’s by 1 point in the last 3 seconds of overtime. But….I would soooo like this Broncos team to put a huge whuppin’ on another team this year. I would like it to be KC. That would be wonderful, for all the reasons listed above and by others. To shut people up for the offseason (mostly) would be absolutely wonderful. To get in the playoffs, even if they lose the first game, would be great.

Even if the Broncos lose though, and the Raiders get in the playoffs this has been a remarkable season. I just don’t want it to end that way due to all the noise that will be generated by this one particular loss. I really hope this franchise can avoid that. I think they will though. I believe the Broncos will win. I just hope they can do it in epic style as well, to answer those questions beyond all doubt. THAT would be a great ending to the season even without playoffs.

by Sinthor on Dec 28, 2011 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

We will finish

we cannot choke forever and it’s Kyle Freaking Orton on the other side for heck’s sake, let’s do it

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:05 AM MST reply actions  

Freaking indeed.....

I am so used to saying another F-word with regard to Kyle…

J

by Jezru on Dec 28, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

we Mormons try to keep it clean :)

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

What the french, toast?

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Where's The Fire truck?

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2011 7:31 PM MST up reply actions  

The Huck?

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Dec 29, 2011 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Shut the front door!

"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe

by CH74 on Dec 28, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

There is no F in WAY :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Dec 29, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

very well said

"Ubaltulargo"- Together striking fear into the hearts of unbelievers.

by ZTC_87 on Dec 28, 2011 11:05 AM MST reply actions  

Great post

GO BRONCOS!

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 11:07 AM MST reply actions  

Seattle fans had the same situation last year

And while it did affect their draft, I know their fans wanted that playoff game more than anything. I also agree that if we lose, making the playoffs after losing 3 straight is almost as bad a feeling as the end of 2009. I also agree both teams, and QB’s, will be motivated to win this game. The biggest thing I’m worried about aren’t the Broncos, it’s the fans who are writing off the Chiefs, a team that has the potential to play very, very well, especially at home. While I think the Broncos win this, I’m not expecting the Chiefs to just lay down like a lot of fans are saying they will. Great post Troy.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:08 AM MST reply actions  

You do know

this game is in Denver right? It will not be easy even in the Broncos yard

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I know, I was mostly refering to the loss of home field advantage by the Broncos.

While the Chiefs home field advantage is still among the best in the NFL.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

uh no Topher

Arrowhead has not been a stronghold for the Chiefs of late, they have had similar woes at KC that we have at Denver

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

Since 2000

The Broncos home field record has been steadily going downwards, while the Chiefs has remained at a steady pace. Add in players voted it 3rd hardest place to play. I don’t see why this offends you, the Broncos will likely win, I just don’t like fans writing this game off as an easy win.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Over the past four seasons

the Quiefs are 12-21 at Arrowhead Stadium, their home field advantage is SO much better, genius

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

What is

Denvers home record over the same period?

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

14-16

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Small sample size

Look big picture, past decade, and you have to look at trends. Why do you want to argue about this?

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

it sounds like someone

was caught with his pants down and it’s not me

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey I have a graph all pulled up

With nice trend lines, both teams are losing home field advantage since 2000, but the Broncos are losing it at a faster rate.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Heres a stat

Chiefs 1-9 all time at Invesco/Sports Authority field

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

There we go

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

And I'm not saying the crowds won't show up and make noise for this game

Just that Mile High doesn’t hold the same power it used to.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

oh

I have to admit grudgingly that this is true, Mr. Bowlen got his mansion but the old Mile High had a special magic to it. I was there in 1999, we beat the Faiders in 1999 even in one of our ugly years.

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

poorly written

the game is in DENVER, not Quiefville

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Read above

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

I did

and yet, strangely (sarcasm), I remain unimpressed

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Wait so you are unimpressed that you misunderstood what I was saying?

That must suck.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

you're a troll

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

How?

What did I say? My comment was valid, my point true, sorry if that bothers you. What part wasn’t true?

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I expect it will be, and hope so too

And I’m not trying to be clever just wanted to make a point, the Broncos home field advantage isn’t what it used to be. But for this game, I expect a lot of fan noise.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

well

if you’re not trying to be clever, trust me you succeeded. This blog is for Broncos fans

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Haha Brad, I have no idea what you are talking about

This is maxwellsdemon, I’ve posted here for years, I’m a staffer, I have no idea what I said that ticked you off.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

OK, all is forgiven

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Sorry if what I said bothered you

I didn’t mean to upset you, I just wanted to point out Mile High isn’t what it used to be, not that the Broncos will lose, I’m expecting them to win.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions  

the only reason

I took umbrage with the Chiefs’ supposed home field advantage is because during the Sunday Night game when they choked against the Squealers, Al Michaels brought up a stat suggesting their home field advantage had deteriorated. I hope you can forgive me, I was a little too angry

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

It's fine, we can get caught up

And I did change my picture and name, so I could see how you might think it was a troll. The Chiefs have lost some of their home field advantage, but even Rodgers said it was one of the toughest places he’s ever played, I know Stink felt the same way. KC isn’t the toughest place to play anymore, same with Mile High, but let’s hope that the fans can do their part this week to get the win.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

fair enough

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

maybe not a 'Must Win'...

broncos aren’t a good team. yet. don’t get me wrong, i’ll be HUGELY disappointed if they poop their pants again, but i still consider this an average to below average team in rebuilding mode—i mean, 4-12 last year and all that. they’ve made decent progress this year and i want them to seal the deal. i think they will, but if they don’t i guess i wouldn’t be shocked either…

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 11:21 AM MST reply actions  

We're good enough to have a division lead. We should be good enough to keep it.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree

if Broncos lose, TT era might not last much longer

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

I hope it lasts at least through 2012

While I’m not sold on Tebow, I think he deserves one more year to try and prove himself.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

If TT and company lose this next game...

Tim Tebow would STILL be 7-4 as a Starter this year. I have a hard time thinking his ‘era would be over’ with that record. Next year is his make or break year – but I’ll think we’ll see the best Tim Tebow yet.

by AlwaysRightSometimes on Dec 28, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree

Tebow seems taylor made for games like this weekend

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

This was the second worst team in the NFL last year. This team was well on its way to Suck For Luck at 1 and 4. It is unbelievable that this team has been the talk of the league for going on two months....are you not entertained? Every week is...

Extremely exciting. We have an up and coming rookie qb…barely played last year and no training camp. What kind of odds would you get that we were going to win our division when we were 1 and 4? 1000 to 1? More? People’s expectations have been blown way out of proportion….Tebow has played well, the defense stepped up during our win streak, and all of the worries about depth were forgotten. Now we lose a couple and it’s time to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The team is much improved, Tebow will continue to improve and we are on a good path. Rant completed…

The wise man knows that he doesn't know everything, not even close...

by Soonerbronco on Dec 28, 2011 1:29 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

If they don't want me to get my hopes up

They shouldn’t win!

;)

Go Broncos!
I believe.... 9-7 till we ain't baby!

by Sean in Pa. on Dec 28, 2011 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

could be. i think that’s more on him though. the broncos could lose with tebow playing pretty well, but if he throws picks and fumbles this sunday, he might be in trouble. even so, it’s pretty late in the game to try to find a better QB for next year. we’re out of draft range for that kind of guy and i’d be pretty confused if they go looking for another club’s reject veteran to take the reins. i hope overall that tebow’s proven enough already to be trusted going into 2012.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

He would still be 7-4...that aint bad...we all tend to forget that...and he played well against the Pats...Bills game bad but he has been steadily improving.

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions  

sure. but it’s not like we’ve been world beaters or anything. it’s a bad division that we’ve got a tenuous lead on. if you were a better broncos fan you’d agree with me. :)

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

hahaha touche on both counts.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

It be different if we were facing the Pack or the Saint to close out the season

but this is the Chiefs were talking about. The dudes that just lost at arrowhead to a Raider team that was down a lot of starters, including DMF. Losing Sunday would be unacceptable

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

unacceptable, but not utterly shocking. we’ve got holes, cali. lot’s of ’em. a lot of which seem custom made for orton and his solid mid-range throwing abilities.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Right not utterly shocking

although last week did come as a shock to me

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Right. A loss to the Chiefs would be like the loss to the 49ers all over again...

Totally unacceptable.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

More like the 2009 season finale blowout

but that was due to McD losing the locker room and benching Scheff and Marshall

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Just throw all the december losses in a hat and pick one. hahaha.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Lmao true

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I dont think Foxy has lost the locker room yet

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

I hope the Denver players aren't thinking the way some of you are

This is not the most epic game ever. Its just another one. Yes, KC is definitely coming ready to play. I’m not sure who is doubting that. If someone is they are setting themselves up for a letdown. Quite possibly a letdown they would enjoy because then they can bash Tebow for losing a big game he should have won for sure (b/c KC is dead).
We can’t go into this game like its epic. We just gotta focus on execution and be stoic. Fans should try to be the same way. Why? Because the game is a big deal and it will tell us something about this team and the players.
What it tells us may not be the whole story though. If I could have it one way, I would take a loss. However, it would only be a loss that came with a Raiders loss. This way we are in the playoffs and primed to seriously surprise people. After a win or a loss we will be primed to surprise, but after a loss it will be an even greater comeback to start whomping on Pittsburgh and NE. Yes, I believe we are totally capable of that. We could definitely benefit from an air of the Broncos are dead and don’t have a chance in those contests. Further, I would love to see the Hoges of the world cring as Tebow and Co got close to doing the thing they act like is the only thing that matters.

by BideshiBronco on Dec 28, 2011 11:25 AM MST reply actions  

I don't think Tebow rolls this way
We just gotta focus on execution and be stoic

by Da Bum on Dec 28, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Gambling

I’m not a gambler. But to me the moves a sports team makes alot of times are like gambling. We made our moves, the bets are in, now we have to let the game play out. We were going no where with Orton, I would have held on to him but they didn’t. I think we will be victorious

by Baghdad on Dec 28, 2011 11:27 AM MST reply actions  

If you're a gambling man

Orton is not the smart bet

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

he probably pays more often than TT, but the return is far lower

If you’re making a single play for a W-L, he’s probably a better bet than TT…. totally depends on whether you are looking for long-term or short-term payout, and even then TT’s odds are so uncertain, its hard to be sure eitherway.

I’mn with Baghdad… the bets are in… now we just have to watch the dice.

by cjfarls on Dec 28, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Negative

I’ve bet quite a few Bronco games and TT pays off more often

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

he's played like 12 games total.

hardly a sample size to call future bets off of…. You’d have said the same thing Orton’s rookie year, and he’s a 50-50 bet.

The fact is TT has played well enough to win (yeah!), but not so great that the future is in anyway clear. Orton has a 7 year history of average QB play. TT has 12 games of good enough play. Dumping KO for TT was in my opinion the smart move long-term for where our franchise is… but it hardly is a clear cut call for winning 1 game this year.

Why folks have to denigrate KO to celebrate TT continues to baffle me. Orton is a average QB overall. TT has proven to be above average in some ways (leadership, running), and below average in others (passing from the pocket), with a higher POTENTIAL overall.

My statement wasn’t negative at all… it counter-acted the negative statements of Brad. None of what I said is an insult to KO nor TT. It just is.

by cjfarls on Dec 28, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

true 12 games

but do you know what he is against the spread in those 12 games??? Better then 50-50

I’m not saying risk the mortgage on it, just saying in my experience, he’s paid off more then Kyle did as a Bronco

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

insurance

I just thought it wouldn’t have hurt to keep him to back up, but I sure don’t think we’d be where we are with him starting

by Baghdad on Dec 28, 2011 11:33 AM MST reply actions  

that is a fair point

but I have a supposition that Lloyd was also jettisoned because he was one of Orton’s supporters, they were together in Chicago, why not?

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

They were

Though Lloyd wasn’t a starter there and hardly played.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Just like Orton ....

they had a lot of “pine” time together :)

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by Disturbed70 on Dec 28, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha though the years Lloyd and Orton were there

Orton was the starter, so that’s not really true.

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by Topher Doll on Dec 28, 2011 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

To be really truthful

they were together one season. Orton played in 15 games and Lloyd played in 11. Of course I dont know how many plays Lloyd was actually in :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Dec 28, 2011 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Lloyd was a healthy scratch for most of our 2009 games. He wasn’t riding pine, he was wearing track suits

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 29, 2011 7:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Was talking about '08-'09 with Chicago :)

Lloyd had 26 reception for 364 yds 17 1st dwns and 2 td’s while Orton was at the helm there.

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by Disturbed70 on Dec 29, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Every game is must win...

BUT… I think it’s really important that we as fans keep our eyes on the prize. The Broncos will not go to the Superbowl this year, let alone make it past the first game in the playoffs if they were to win this weekend. The reality is that this team is really not playing well enough to be worthy of a playoff spot. Furthermore, we are in the first year of a three year rebuilding process.

So… will it SUCK if Orton comes to town and lays an a$$ whipping on the Broncos? Yes no doubt, but mainly because it would have been delivered by Orton. I think the reality of the situation right now is that we really need to be looking at ways for the Broncos to improve next year and beyond.

Go Broncos!

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by tjpmontana on Dec 28, 2011 11:35 AM MST reply actions  

even so

I would be elated to make the postseason for it reushers in the culture of winning we have been deprived of the past 5 years, it drives me insane!

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes sir

I completely agree with you… that winning culture… where we expect the Broncos to win every freakin time they step on the field, no matter who is injured, etc… has been gone for a really long time. A win this weekend would go a long ways toward a) ending the season on a positive note, and b) planting the seeds for that winning attitude next season.

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by tjpmontana on Dec 28, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

plus

my a-hole Bears fan “friends” have been relentless in saying we’d be screwed for years after letting Cutler go, uh, who’s screwed now? Plus, if Tebow can win a situation where Cutler failed, it shows that ultimately we came out better in the long run. Does anyone really think Chicago can ever win a championship with Cutler?

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

they’re not just your a-hole bears fans. they belong to all of us.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Of course

we all share the burden, forgive me :)

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

hah! as long as we’re on the same page…

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

As...my bad....

The wise man knows that he doesn't know everything, not even close...

by Soonerbronco on Dec 28, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

You might be surprised

I am one for keeping expectations where they should be this year. Essentially, we have made great strides, already doubled our win total from last year, added Von, improved special teams, O-line playing as unit wonderfully, etc. But heck, if we get in and host a game ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. And if it is the Ravens who come calling, they are highly beatable if we play our best. Do not want to see Pittsburgh IF we get in. Just my .02.

Yo Christian Okoye, you got knocked the "F" out!

by Safety Blitz on Dec 28, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Pitt travels to well.

Last time they came to Denver and I saw all the terrible towels it made me sick.

"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills

by Digger24 on Dec 28, 2011 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

That's true

the good thing is if you hit that raping QB of theirs, his foot will hurt and he’ll play like crap as he did in the 49ers game

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Ben raps?

"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills

by Digger24 on Dec 28, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Uh yes, that's it

raps, rapes, same diff

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 2:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't really care for rapers.

"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills

by Digger24 on Dec 28, 2011 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

and followed that up

with the single: No Does NOT Mean No! :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Dec 28, 2011 3:37 PM MST up reply actions  

:)

Good ones.

"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills

by Digger24 on Dec 28, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I take great solace in...

The fact our D is pretty solid in the red zone and that Kyle is allergic to end zone field paint…

J

by Jezru on Dec 28, 2011 11:36 AM MST reply actions  

Look at you... all fancy with your sign off...

KB

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Great post. This needs to be read to the players and needs to be in the DP

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 11:39 AM MST reply actions  

Tweet it to John Elway, then.

It won’t bother me, in the least. Maybe I’ll earn a spot on ESPN’s pregame show as “the dude who helped rile up the Broncos”….

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

the emporer Calikula doesnt tweet

he only MHR’s.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions   3 recs

well said my liege

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

You have earned my rec, sir.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

he could have someone tweet for him if necessary, however.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

I'll ask the bum that came in and bought his daily skol this morning

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

mmmm….. skol…… with a twist of malt liquor….

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Breakfast of Champions, if I do say so myself

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

really?

i thought you ate huevos.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

No, I just carry a set with me everywhere I go.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

What kind of container do you store them in?

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Tupperware, of course

hahaha

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Really? Hows that work?

Confused…

Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..

by Tuscani on Dec 28, 2011 12:57 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

meant to say

Underwear tupperware, of course

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Underwear is the secret word of the day

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 2:23 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

dude...lmao

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Isn't that from the episode where

he pulls them up over his head and makes a swing? That cracked me up as a kid, and I have ne’er forgotten

"It's okay to eat fish, 'cause they don't have any feelings" - Kurt Kobain

by JChase8410 on Dec 29, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Just don't put the lid on it.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

or maybe please do.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Lol this is the conversation I always find you two in ;)

Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..

by Tuscani on Dec 28, 2011 12:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Its a rather important one

did you get your Tebow jersey?

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

It is very important:)

No jersey lol, sold out apparently..oh well maybe my bday?! But hubbs got me some nice makeup from urban decay, and sephora gift cards, so all is forgiven;) you have a good christmas?

Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..

by Tuscani on Dec 28, 2011 1:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah it was good

I got some great presents, and I bought the gf the kitchen set she’s been wanting for a while, but it just seems like a really lame present to me. I wanna get her something better, so Im currently working on that

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Women love kitchen stuff lol, its what we do!

Hmmm what could possibly be better than kitchen stuff? Let me think…a ring? Church bells? Aww are you going to do “it”?

haha sorry if I’m waaaay off base ;)

Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..

by Tuscani on Dec 28, 2011 5:23 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Not too far off :). That takes super preparation.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 8:45 PM MST up reply actions  

more than a bottle of skol would anyway.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 8:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Ssshhhh…quit giving my training secrets away

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

eeek!

That’s sooo exciting! I’m so excited for you! That’s def better than a kitchen set! Lol do not ask her when you are drunk;)

when my hubby asked me to marry him, I thought he was playing a horrible joke, so I put the ring back in the box lol.it was xmas day, he was drinking….he didn’t even ask the “question” just assumed i’d know..so he redid it again a year and a half later :) much better that time…but we didn’t get married til last year..5 year engagements suck!

Have fun with it!

Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..

by Tuscani on Dec 29, 2011 8:25 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

EGGS??!!!

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

PANTS?!?!?!?!

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Lol you guys are so f%@king funny...

Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..

by Tuscani on Dec 28, 2011 1:05 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Balls!?!

(i had too) :)

Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..

by Tuscani on Dec 28, 2011 1:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I think you vastly overestimate how motivated the Chiefs will be. I would suspect the majority of their roster views this game as any other game. I would suspect a handful of players view this game as the last road block on the way to the off-season.

Orton views the game as his last audition for UFA. That’s his motivation #1. Not beating Tebow or Denver or helping Crennel. Orton is going to be playing for himself and that presents Denver with an excellent opportunity to get INTs on a guy that will be pressing.

As a team, Denver has a lot more motivation than KC. The KC coach will get a look at their HC spot regardless of the outcome Sunday. KC won’t give him the job if he wins a meaningless week 17 game or go with someone else if KC loses. Teams don’t make long term decisions based on one game. They actually do take the long view and consider multiple factors.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 28, 2011 12:15 PM MST reply actions  

You could be right McGeorge

but one could have made that same argument for the 2009 3-12 KC team that came in and thrashed us 44-24

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

or last week for that matter.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, the Bills too. ugh

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

When you think of Brandon Marshall and Scheff in that game (or how they bailed on it), think of the KC players this year heading into UFA.

Our season was over as well if you remember. We had been eliminated by kickoff.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 28, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought we had an outside chance

but a lot of unlikely things had to happen, like the Ravens and a couple other things happening. Lets hope some of the KC starters dog it so they dont get injured as they head into UFA

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Focus on Bowe, Carr, Alberts and Thomas Jones as guys that may well “dog it”. Also focus on their rookies to see if their heads are somewhere else.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 29, 2011 7:29 AM MST up reply actions  

True, this isn't the end all be all, but the legacy of this team will be based on whether or not they make the playoffs.

Year to year, that is how teams are evaluated. Look at the 2006 Broncos and the first thing that should jump to your mind is the week 17 loss to an inferior 49er team. Look at the 2009 Broncos and the first thing that should jump to your mind is the terrible finish to a 6-0 start.

None of them are good memories. I want to have good memories when I look back on the 2011 Broncos. Going from 4-12 in 2010 to a playoff berth in 2011 sounds fancy to me. I’d rather think about that than “going from 4-12 in 2010 to suffer a miserable december that cost us the playoffs in 2011”. Both of them are improvements from 2010, but I want to reach the playoffs. We haven’t been there in a long time.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm w/

fancy pants on this one, playoffs please

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 28, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

You should already have good memories of the 2011 Broncos. I know I do.

Win or lose this Sunday.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 28, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Rec'd Kentucky.

The reason some fans DO hope we lose is they DO hope the Tebow era would be over with a loss.

"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills

by Digger24 on Dec 28, 2011 12:19 PM MST reply actions  

and anyone who thinks that way

is not a real Broncos fan and no, unlike my spat with Maxwell, I’m not apologizing for this comment, the Bradfather has spoken

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd Brad-dad

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Dec 28, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

You'er right, a team learns more from a loss than from a win

Our special teams had been playing absolutely terrific all year. They’ll learn more from getting knocked off that high horse once than they would have from another week of business as usual. The defense was easily the strongest of the three phases last Sunday, and yet they now know that they need to tighten up because late game heroics can’t happen EVERY game.

We’ve all seen how Tim Tebow handles adversity… he destroys every team in his path to play flawlessly for the rest of the season (“The Tebow Promise”). We know that Brian Dawkins and Champ Bailey are veteran savvy enough and desperate enough to get to the playoffs, that even Champ is likely to get in someone’s grill at practice if they’re not showing extreme dedication.

I think the loss is good. Like you said, it could be a coping mechanism, but I don’t think so. We’ve got veteran coaching and veteran players on defense and a determined quarterback that’s already shown that he kicks adversity in the balls. I think this team will rebound and grow from this loss. And I don’t think the Chiefs have the ability to stop them.

Course, for full disclosure. I’m absolutely horrible in picking games this year ;D
Rec’d. Great read.

So we had a bad game. What. There's no crying in football. Dust yourselves off and keep that knee from jerking. The Broncos still control their own destiny. And I have faith in that.

by Rodney A on Dec 28, 2011 12:22 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Kansas City

is a shell of what they were even a year ago, there is no excuse, I demand victory

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

one thing i do like about the last couple of games

is that it’s quieted the ridiculously stupid tebow buzz from all sides. tebow fanboyz and tebow haters have moved in a bit closer to center after the last couple of weeks. tebowmania needs to settle in a bit and i think the extremists are starting to realize that A) Jesus won’t be winning games for tebow and B) he’s not hopelessly incapable either. he’s a solid young QB who’s working toward improvement. i’m betting that helps him and the team.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Christ has never won games for Tebow

Nevertheless, as those who believe that sort of thing will tell you, He inspires you and sometimes gives adversity to separate the bandwagon believers from the true ones. Tebow is a true believer so he will come out and do his best. I believe this will suffice in making us a playoff team this season and in the future

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

tebow himself has said that God’s not out to win football games, yet that’s the myth that idiots like bill maher like to perpetuate. now that the panic about Jesus winning tebow’s games for him is clearly over, i just think it’ll help the broncos get away from the “is tebow magic??” questions they’ve gotten incessantly since he became the starter. that can’t be a bad thing. oh, and he not magic. just to be clear. :)

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

for sure

if you ask those of us purporting to be Christians, such as Tebow, Spence Larsen, Dawk and myself what we think, we will all say it’s not God’s will to win football games but he will use anything that can be construed righteously to further His work, no there is no magic, only true power!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Thank you very much and well said Bradfather

Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

by broncofaninIL on Dec 28, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions  

you could ask me too then for that matter, and i’d still say that Jesus isn’t out to win football games like tebow’s been accused of claiming. he’s said as much. do you get the feeling neither of us is addressing each other’s points? weird, huh.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 8:23 PM MST up reply actions  

RE: What would be the advantage of losing the week 17 ......

Being able to sing, “Turn out the lights, the party’s over….”
Followed by, “Wait’ll next year”.

by rockymtnhiman on Dec 28, 2011 12:25 PM MST reply actions  

hahaha, touche.

Although, singing “We are the champions” would be more fun, imo. Division champs. Can you imagine?

It’s easy if you try.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 28, 2011 12:29 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

I have a great imagination. But, you may be asking too much ?
I’ll give it a shot…..after all I’m still wearing my back to back SB rally hat.

by rockymtnhiman on Dec 28, 2011 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Karma?

I above all people want the Broncos to win and win BIG…but the way the fan base treated Kyle Orton, thus giving him a ton of motivation to really get into this game. I was down right embarrassed by the way people personally attacked the guy and these kind of things have a way of biting you in the butt….I really hope I am wrong…. but I have bad,bad feeling about this game

Michael of the clan Barthel

by merf1955 on Dec 28, 2011 12:35 PM MST reply actions  

Yep, but the Broncos displayed GREAT karma releasing Orton and giving him a chance to catch on with someone...it was in the stars...it was meant to be!

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2011 7:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Since when did the Chiefs become a juggernaut that the Broncos are incapable of beating??

What’s that you say? When Orton started playing? Sorry to break it to some of you that have your panties in an uproar…but Mr. Orton is the same old, same old. Yessir, he’s 1-1 as a starter for the Chiefs…how average is that?

Some on this post have convinced themselves the Chiefs are invincable even though their 6-9 record says differently.

Me personally…if I’m worrying about anything it’s the execution, especially in the secondary on defense due to BDawk’s injury and the special teams coverage units.

Run it down their throats and we won’t have to worry about Mr. Orton and his revenge because he won’t be on the field…well maybe between the 20s.

Execute baby, execute!!
Here’s to becoming the AFC West Champions!!
Go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

by broncofaninIL on Dec 28, 2011 7:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Any chance they play Champ at safety?

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2011 7:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't see them playing Champ at safety...

but it would be interesting for sure. Just not sure what they’d do at CB.

Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

by broncofaninIL on Dec 28, 2011 7:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep...look man, I agree.....I am not sure why WW has not been tried at SS to be honest...anyway, pray Dawk is OK.

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you just nailed it...WW at safety

Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

by broncofaninIL on Dec 28, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks man...he is very quick and has played some MLB , and as a captain, would keep the crew organized.

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2011 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree man by the way!

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2011 7:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Every time I thought the anticipation before a game couldn't be any bigger... it gets bigger.

Even if we lose (and miss the playoffs), I do think our 2012 is full of promise.

A troubling note for me is that for many of us, one of the immediate frustrations after a loss now is knowing we have to deal with detractors within our own fanbase calling for firings- even after a 7 straight stretch, which normally would be proof that we have ‘something’ worth building on.

It’d be nice as a Bronco fan if we could unite behind our QB for at least season (or even 3 quarters of one) before turning on each other. I realize people feel simarlily about the KO situation but IMO, he was given at least that long before things got ugly, and he was an experienced QB to begin with.

Having said all that, if we get away to a good start on Sunday and McCoy suddenly goes all conservative, I say we ship him :-)

Just because I speak with authority doesn't mean I actually know what I'm talking about.

by tonks on Dec 28, 2011 12:42 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

Agree 100%

Especially with the “let’s score a TD on the opening drive and then suck our thumbs ’til the second half” approach. I think it was Mr. T in the Snickers commercial, who may well have been talking to McCoy, “Get some nuts!”

Yo Christian Okoye, you got knocked the "F" out!

by Safety Blitz on Dec 28, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Meant to rec...my bad...

The wise man knows that he doesn't know everything, not even close...

by Soonerbronco on Dec 28, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

i like Denver's chances

One win and they are afc west champs. It is even better that Tin Man Orton is standing in the way. They must take care of business this weekend.

Elvis and Von: Smashing QBs since 2011!

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2011 12:53 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

The people frightened by Tin man are comical. No team was willing to trade us even a 7th round pick for Orton just a few months ago. Orton is one of the worst QBs we’ll face this season.

Not that Moore or Bruton will be able to do anything about it, but I’m more worried about KCs D than Tin Man.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 28, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

i’m not so much frightened by kyle as much as i am our DBs. defense has been swiss cheese lately and even kyle might have been able to punch a couple in against us on saturday. overall though, i agree—we should win this game. should.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Yum

Swiss cheese with a Swiss miss, sounds delightful

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup...

What unit breaks down more? Our secondary or their offensive line? We better get Von going and Elvis better bring his A game. I want Von coming from all over the place. I want them to think Von is coming only to have DJ or a strong safety come from elsewhere while Von drops off into coverage. We need to bring the heat. Champ will take Bowe away. But the rest of the secondary is a liability big time.

Yo Christian Okoye, you got knocked the "F" out!

by Safety Blitz on Dec 28, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

great comment

Dont trip off the glitz that I'm gonna display..

by Tuscani on Dec 28, 2011 12:59 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

yep. that’s alls i’m sayin.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 28, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Rec'd ya..

.. for a nice post. However, I would have rec’d you just for your signature line alone! I was at that Monday night game – an absolfrickinlutely great time!

"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson.

I don’t suffer from insanity – I enjoy every minute of it!

by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Dec 28, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

AGREE COMPLETELY... rec'd

…. and I put a A TON of value on statistics.

Win or lose, DEN is a young team with high-potential guys at a number of positions. We have some obvious holes in the secondary, MLB, and RB depth, but the future looks bright.

Beginning of the year I hoped for and predicted a roughly .500-season, with hope at the end from some maturation of the rookies and young players. We underperformed early due to injury and abnormally bad QB play, then got a bit lucky in the streak to even things out. We’ve seen our young players develop and the future looks bright, so a division championship and playoff berth is gravy on the season.

I’ll be really disappointed if we lose (we should beat a beat-up KC team at home), but a small part of me will get some perverse joy if the folks who treated KO so poorly the last few years get some comeuppance… definitely not worth the loss, but perhaps a little sugar pill for the medicine. ;-)

by cjfarls on Dec 28, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

You are correct sir.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 29, 2011 7:32 AM MST up reply actions  

It's sad really

that we’ve gone through so much playoff disappointment in these past 6 years that we are scared to be in this position in week17. From our 1st playoff in ’77 to our last in ’05 we made the playoffs in over 62% of the time.After a few failures we now need a win and a playoff appearence to recall the feeling we used to always have, which is that we are good again.

"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills

by Digger24 on Dec 28, 2011 1:17 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

If we can't

beat a sub par team like the Chiefs AT HOME with a division title ON THE LINE, then we don’t deserve to make the playoffs. Mile High needs to rock and the team needs to respond. Party at my place for the next two weeks and beyond!

by Broncos15 on Dec 28, 2011 2:18 PM MST reply actions  

where do you live?

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

In Inception.

hcamhfcolanholanwsanvlaplayoffsljahnanlanvamwehpncwnwlnsuperbowlljcanlncnfjlhwvjdlvknhsglsjvscandiceswanepoelolkjmvpjaofchajhvajchajhflawhgak

Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Dec 29, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, due to my military

obligations, I am not in my GREAT HOME STATE OF COLORADO, but supporting the Special Forces at MacDill AFB in Tampa, Florida. Hope to be home soon.

by Broncos15 on Dec 28, 2011 2:30 PM MST reply actions  

All of Mountain Time is Bronco Country

(Canada too, gotta give Alberta Bronco some love:) and apparently so is MacDill AFB in Tampa!

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 28, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

No prob

we can come to Tampa and party.

If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.

by OrangeandBluesBros on Dec 28, 2011 7:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks for your service man!

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2011 7:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I wish you the best and thank you for your service 15...

Hope you get home soon!!

Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

by broncofaninIL on Dec 28, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Article Troy

As I was reading the part about Orton and wanting to beat Denver I had to think of people that have no clue. Even though Tebow and the media are everywhere, there is bound to be a large number that really won’t even realize it is Denver’s X starting QB they are playing against.
Anyway I enjoyed the read, you should write more ;) I hope we win because even if followed by a 1st round loss we take confidence into next season.

Go Broncos!
I believe.... 9-7 till we ain't baby!

by Sean in Pa. on Dec 28, 2011 3:45 PM MST reply actions  

And we know so much about that X QB. Our D must be licking it’s chops to use their knowledge of his game against him.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 29, 2011 7:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Why don't we just go on a 5 game winning streak and forget about all the madness going on?

"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...

by bfree2bronc on Dec 28, 2011 4:36 PM MST reply actions  

every time Tebow is mocked he goes on a winning streak.

hcamhfcolanholanwsanvlaplayoffsljahnanlanvamwehpncwnwlnsuperbowlljcanlncnfjlhwvjdlvknhsglsjvscandiceswanepoelolkjmvpjaofchajhvajchajhflawhgak

Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Dec 28, 2011 5:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Whoever asked you that...

…is an idiot. Even if you concede that the Broncos would be an underdog, upsets, injuries, funny bounces, hot streaks, cold streaks and inexplicable match-up advantages still happen. Six-seeds have won Super Bowls, the Seahawks beat the Saints last year.

Some deserves a punch in the ****.

www.rhunekincaid.com

by YouAreSignedIn on Dec 28, 2011 8:30 PM MST reply actions  

Jesus

Jesus and pictures of hot chicks. I’m Catholic and we always keep our perversion and religion separate so I’m kind of put off in a strange kind of way

by Baghdad on Dec 29, 2011 7:10 AM MST reply actions  

French

The hot chick picture is French isn’t it? They bring bread home every night like the bread she has

by Baghdad on Dec 29, 2011 7:24 AM MST reply actions  

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