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No Matter What Happens On Sunday, The 2011 Denver Broncos Season Was A Success

DENVER, CO - DECEMBER 18: Place kicker Matt Prater #5 of the Denver Broncos and teammates stand in the tunnel before taking on the New England Patriots at Sports Authority Field at Mile High on December 18, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. The New England Patriots won, 41-23. (Photo by Patrick Smith/Getty Images)

I have recently been in a long Facebook discussion in someone's post. This guy is arguing that we fire John Fox and we fire John Elway because they are not using Tim Tebow correctly and other than Von Miller, all our draft picks our busts......yeah........enough said.

If the Broncos do not make the playoffs on Sunday, I can guarantee you that I will be as disappointed as everybody else at Mile High Report. We all invest a lot of time and money in this team, whether it is buying a jersey or merchandise and then of course reading MHR and other Bronco news sources or blogs.

However, lets not forget where the Broncos were coming into this season. The Broncos had arguably the worst season in 2010 in franchise history finishing with a 4-12 record. What we saw this year is what none of us realistically pictured coming into the week 17.

Star-divide

The Broncos have an opportunity that a lot of teams do not have. A lot of teams in the NFL wish they could be in the position that the Broncos are in this week. I should not have to state it again but I will:

If the Denver Broncos defeat the Kansas City Chiefs on January 1st 2012, they will make the playoffs.

Isn't that fun to say? We can win and we are in.A lot more fun than wondering what pick we will have in the draft that isn't for four months.

But for a second I want to talk about what would happen if the Broncos do not make it. I understand it is a negative idea. A lot of fans have been upset over what they saw the past two weeks. Me to! We all are. Turning the ball over is annoying, especially when you have a team right where you want 'em. But before the season, if I presented you with this week 17 opportunity, you would have took it. Without a doubt you would have. 4-12 to opportunity to be division champs? Yee-Haw!!

But if we do not make it, was this season a success? Absolutely!

Think about what has improved for the Broncos this season. We saw glimpses that we may have a quarterback of the future. We do not know for sure yet, just like every team with a young first year starter does not know for sure yet. We won games in Elway-like fashion with late comebacks capitalizing off mistakes from the opponents.

We saw a glimpse of what a deadly pass rush will look like in years to come. If Von Miller can be this good in a rookie season, there is no limit to where Von can take his talents. Dumervil has 100% recovered from his surgery and is now dominating again.

Orlando Franklin has improved a lot and been very good in run blocking. This offensive line has developed chemistry and become one of the hardest working offensive lines in the NFL. Critics will look at sacks but lots of them have become partially because sometimes Tebow holds onto the ball too long and runs around. Different than last season, we had an offensive line that that started every game together. Correct me if I am wrong but I think Ryan Clady, Zane Beadles, J.D. Walton, Chris Kuper and Orlando Franklin have started every game together.

Of course there are weaknesses. Every team has them, especially after a 4-12 season. They were not going to all be improved after one year it never is. Just like the problems right now won't all be fixed after this year. We are young and binding together to become a good team.

Those are just a few things I noticed that I really liked and I am happy with and some things I wanted to see going into this season.

I hope to heck we win on Sunday. That would be the ultimate success. But I enjoyed this season a lot. I saw a lot of improving. Our off-season acquisitions worked well, I trust our management to not make scary decisions that hurt the franchise for years. No matter what, this season was something we should be proud of coming off the disaster that was 2010.

What do you think? Was 2011 a success to you?

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finally someone said it.

if you would have told me that we win eight games and tebow is the starter i would have been excited!

by slicka007 on Dec 29, 2011 12:00 PM MST reply actions  

Amen!

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 29, 2011 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Is it ok to say a flawed success?

Yes, I agree this year has been better than the past year/s. But still to be in a place that all you needed was one win and not to close it out to me has to be flawed somewhat. I know this team is young, but that looks like the Denver Broncos we used to know. I know the game hasn’t happened yet and Denver still controls the outcome, but not to make the playoffs this year would really hurt. More in morale than anything.

Maybe we could just say this season was a Success but add an * to the end?

by MileHighPride on Dec 29, 2011 12:10 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

Its hard to look at it this way, because we know the potential of this team.

But you have to take the playoffs out of the equation. Playoffs are a bonus. 4-12 to 9-7, even 8-8 is a success. Improvement is improvement. Bottom line.

..We're 8-8 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..

by Teboner on Dec 29, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

We're 8-8 till we're not!

Do you mind changing that to 9-7-It would just make me feel better! Kinda superstitious

by MileHighPride on Dec 29, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Ive been keeping at the lowest possible since like week 3.

Its a facetious attempt at humility. But believe me, I am looking forward to changing Sunday..

..We're 8-8 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..

by Teboner on Dec 29, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Sure I agree, but...

It still isnt over. We could still be here in a few weeks thinking about the game ahead.

I am taking it one day at a time and if I had to say the 2011 season was a success today, I would have to say that it was, without a doubt. Especially compared to last year.

by DBconvert on Dec 29, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

heck

drinking souse and eating pine needles is a success compared to last year

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

depends

on the quality of the souse.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 29, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

You get a double thumbs up from me. Definatly a success

We are laying the ground work for being a major contender in the years to come. It is almost scary to think of how this team will be if they can continue the growth, as a team, that they have achieved this year!! Just ponder that thought for a minute or two.

by DBconvert on Dec 29, 2011 12:10 PM MST reply actions  

Amen.

If the season stopped today, I would still be a happy man. Thank goodness we are on the right track with the best yet to come.

by anti382 on Dec 29, 2011 12:17 PM MST reply actions  

I've got to say incomplete

but it’s not because of the game this Sunday. Rather, its because I saw this at the beginning of the year as a two year rebuild and I need to see another draft and a full offseason’s worth of preparation.

I like it so far — but I can’t grade it yet

by yibberat on Dec 29, 2011 12:17 PM MST reply actions  

You're right Colby

but…..if we lose and miss the playoffs the sky will definately be falling at MHR.

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by Idaho Nate on Dec 29, 2011 12:18 PM MST reply actions  

This may be true

but I want to win anyway, I lust after the playoffs, I’ll admit it

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 12:23 PM MST reply actions  

On Sunday night

We will all be discussing our picks, chances and actions that will lead us to our next victory in the playoffs.

I am with you all the way.

So, the questions should really be, “How far into the playoffs do we need to get, in order to consider this year a success”?

by DBconvert on Dec 29, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

making the playoffs suffices for me

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Agree

Not just a playoff game, but a home playoff game and a division title. Sure, it was a down year for the West but worst to first is more than anyone thought this year.

by AttwaterForHOF on Dec 29, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

When isn't it a down year for the West?

of course, we’re on the rise

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Success, but only relative to preseason expectations

A team’s performance should exist on a sliding scale of expectations. We were left for dead – even worse than preseason expectations – back when we were 1-4. And yet, we rocketed from there on. Given how the team has performed the last few months (last 2 games notwithstanding), missing the playoffs at this point should be considered nothing less than a major disappointment.

by neumdaddy on Dec 29, 2011 12:26 PM MST reply actions  

Not relative to when they were 1-4?

As you state, this is an even lower position than preseason expectations (for most). By isolating only the 7-1 record and judging the team (or it’s future expectations) on that period of time, methinks you’re not seeing the whole picture or judging the team (or season) fairly. But that may just be me.

" I Find Your Lack of Faith Disturbing," Darth Vader.

by broncomack on Dec 29, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Definitely a Success

I’m just dreading that if we lose we’re going to have to spend the entire offseason listening to people whine about how Tebow is not the answer and that this team is still awful. You know that’s what’s going to happen if Kyle Orton beats us this Sunday. If we can pull it out there will be no doubt to anyone that we are heading in the right direction. Based on the last several years, I’d hate to spend another offseason bickering as a divided fan base. This Sunday has a lot more at stake than the 2012 playoffs if you ask me.

by rybjammin on Dec 29, 2011 12:27 PM MST reply actions  

All I wanted was...

to improve. We’ve done that. To be relevant in week 17 and to have the possibility to go to the playoffs after the horrible year we had last year is all gravy. I think we’ve set ourselves up for a great off season and I am positive that we’ll be a contender next year for all great things.

That said, let’s beat the snot out of the Chiefs and bring home some playoff wins.

J

by Jezru on Dec 29, 2011 12:29 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Suit yourself I define success by winning more than you lose

A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves

by waterboy31321 on Dec 29, 2011 12:30 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

I'll rec this for plain simplicity +1

An idiot looks to change last year, a fool looks to change yesterday, a Wiseman tries to change today, and a winner will change tomorrow!

by MileHighPride on Dec 29, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

except that my team was 4-12 last year with not much talent going forward, and that can complicate the winning part significantly.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 29, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Well that can be said but...

We are still playing with a lot of the same guys from last year. The style of play has changed. So I can’t agree with “not much talent” idea, but a change in style I would agree with. This team is more physical and better coached. So the talent level outside of Von Miller is about the same. This was a 7-9 to 8-8 team last year just needed a good direction.

by MileHighPride on Dec 29, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

that's a pretty big "just"

" I Find Your Lack of Faith Disturbing," Darth Vader.

by broncomack on Dec 29, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Good read

and as an avid Josh McDaniels detractor I have been saying the same thing about this new HC, FO and coaching staff all year. So I will be proud of the Broncos win or lose this week and playoffs or not.

I think the Broncos will have their hands full this weekend and I had them winning 10 games pre-season.

Victory is sweet, even deep in the cheap seats.

by KoloradoKaos on Dec 29, 2011 12:35 PM MST reply actions  

Your McJedi detractor card is in limbo because you never came to battle with me during that 2 year tenure.

IMO, you are a McJedi detractor “after the fact”. Much less cred.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 29, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

of course

the important thing is we all know McDumbtard is a hack and always was, shame on those of us who did not have your prescience, but then who does? McGeorge for GM until he’s not!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Are you serious G?

Call me what you want but don’t call me late to the party band wagon Josh McDaniels detractor. Second one, of the announcement of his hiring I was by far the biggest detractor that I knew. I honestly cannot imagine that there is another person in the world that was more upset, confused and out spoken about the Josh McDaniels hire and his subsequent actions then I was. My friends and family took the wait and see approach with him but there was never a moment that I though the right person was hired to replace Shannahan and I was proven correct. Yet again.

You may be confused because I’ve only been a member of the MHR since mid 2010 but I have went my rounds with the glut of Josh McDaniels supporters here and have admired your unwavering stick-to-itiveness regarding the disaster that was. Trust me, there are several in the audience that have left because of me and or really wish that I would just go away. I have never been nor will I ever be tightlipped or ashamed to point out the atrocity that was Josh McDaniels.

I only visited the MHR that summer to get away from the DP. The main reason that I stayed initially was because I was completely taken by surprise by all of the seeming ‘blind’ Josh McDaniels supporters. I could not believe it, I could not understand it, I could not comprehend how supposed knowledgeable Bronco fans could actually think that Josh McDaniels was not only the guy for the job but also though that he was dismantling that great offensive team for a reason other then spite, jealousy and immaturity. I will gladly go to battle with you or any other Josh McDaniels detractor but I do not need your permission to carry my McJedi detractor card nor do I need to prove to you that I have maintained my stance on him from the git-go .

Where you and I seem to differ most is the fact that you agreed with Josh McDaniels and his idea to wreck the best core of talented young offensive players that the Broncos have ever known and arguably the youngest and most productive core of talented young offensive players the league has ever know.

Victory is sweet, even deep in the cheap seats.

by KoloradoKaos on Dec 29, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Whoa

the important thing is now we are no longer bewitched by McDaniels, NONE of us, I’ll admit I liked him for a while but something about cheating and embarrassing the franchise I loved made me want him gone the moment it happened. Mr. Bowlen was fooled as well but the important thing is all of us know what a fraud he is. No need for backbiting on this point, GO BRONCOS!!!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope the Tebow haters

never have the chance to fight over who hated him most and first.

The best of the 2011-2012 season is yet to come.

by Digger24 on Dec 29, 2011 4:13 PM MST up reply actions  

You're welcome.

You are talking about the quarterback we gave you, right? He’s an episode of NFL Follies incarnated.

Respect is not given it is earned dog gonit...and they don't respect us...nobody respects us... you know what you got to do in that situation? TAKE IT!!!!!

by Troy Hufford on Dec 29, 2011 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

hey, no problem.

giving a chieves fan a smiling moment when he’s not crying like a colicky infant makes it worthwhile to all of us.

"It’s embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow." — Merril

by oxmouth on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 PM MST up reply actions  

This is why I hate most Quiefs fans

have fun with no shot of the playoffs

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

We're the best for a laugh?

Funny coming from the fans who thought Matt Cassel was a franchise QB and believe Ricky Stanzi is the next best thing.

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by Nick Cast on Dec 29, 2011 4:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Worst to first or first to worst

Take your pick. I like our direction. Take solace, though. If your owner cleans house, the stench of Todd Haley’s tenure may get washed away sometime in the next year or two.

by Da Bum on Dec 29, 2011 5:57 PM MST up reply actions  

“Was 2010 a success to you?”

Not at all if you’re talking about the Broncos. That year was a massive failure.

2011 was a big success though.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Dec 29, 2011 12:52 PM MST reply actions  

I figured we'd get anywhere to 7-9 wins this year...

So yeah this is a success after last year’s crapfest

Atheist for Tim Tebow!

by CombatChuk on Dec 29, 2011 1:00 PM MST reply actions  

OMG NO, NO and again NO!!! I'm so sick of late season meltdowns and no Playoffs!

It’s playoffs or bust. Imagine not going because we lose to Orton and the Chiefs at home?
I simply can’t live with that!

by artistnyc on Dec 29, 2011 1:02 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Chiefs don't win in Mile High

old or new, lets keep it that way

I had them 6-10, 7-9 so yes this season is a success
though expectations have shifted go get it Broncos

Release the Tebow!

by NewEraNugg on Dec 29, 2011 1:02 PM MST reply actions  

Agree

This was a very young team, playing in a bad division. We lost a few early that we should’ve won, and stole a few in the streak that we should’ve lost. In general, win-or-lose, the season played out roughly as I expected (somewhere in the 7-9 to 9-7 range depending on luck, with a shot at the playoffs due to poor division).

Everything seems a bit topsy-turvy when viewed with week-to-week emotions, but overall we’ve seen a young team that has looked it at times (inconsistency), but that also has shown improvement over the course of the year. Even some of our poorer performing players like Moore and Carter have gained valuable experience, and don’t look overmatched for the long-haul… they just look like rookies. Other young players, like TT, Franklin, Harris, Miller, etc. have far exceeded expectations.

The coaching staff and FO have done a good job of re-energizing the fanbase, while also providing some much needed stability after the hyper-manic McHoodie years. the team seems focused and playing hard, regardless of opponent. The FO’s talent evaluation skills also look solid, so the team should coninue to improve going forward. Allen looks like a great pickup at DC.

I’ll be highly disappointed with a loss, but in the big picture, the team looks to be on the right track. For the season, a division championship will be the icing, not the cake (but I absolutely prefer my cake frosted).

by cjfarls on Dec 29, 2011 1:04 PM MST reply actions  

It's great that the Broncos won eight games - will be even better if that becomes nine and the Broncos become the AFC WEST CHAMPIONS.

However, the Broncos have not played like an 8-8 or 9-7 team, and I’m not sure if they were actually any better this year than last. The major differences are that the Broncos haven’t been hit with the injury bug nearly as bad this year (after the bye, anyway) as they were last year, while several of their opponents were missing key starters each week this year. The Broncos have actually had the same five guys starting on the OL for the last 10 or 11 games. Before the final three games last year, I don’t think they had two weeks in a row with the same five guys. Plus the Broncos have been incredibly lucky with the breaks going their way this year. I think you can easily subtract four (maybe five) wins the Broncos had that were the result of unbelievable blunders made by their opponents during the last few minutes of the game or in overtime. Last year, it seemed like everything that could go wrong for Denver did go wrong.

So you might reply by saying, but the Broncos are in a rebuilding season this year. OK, they were in a rebuilding season last year too. Probably more so because of the weekly rotation of the offensive line. But my point is that, while the Broncos were more successful this year win wise, I’m just not sure they were a better team than they were last year.

(By the way, I didn’t mention either Kyle Orton or Tim Tebow because this has nothing to do with either of them. It’s just my opinion of the Broncos overall, this year compared to last year.)

by CompUser on Dec 29, 2011 1:04 PM MST reply actions  

I call BS on this

We were the absolute WORST Defense in the NFL last year (and had been awful for a long time). Fox’s number one priority (read numero uno) was fix the Defense. We are not elite on D yet and we certainly have gaps we can fill, but we are far far far far from the worst. That NE team (yeah, those guys who are #1 in the AFC) are far worse than we are.

We were bottom feeders in the run game last year (and had been for a while). We are now, one of the best run teams in the league, and with a young O-line, that is a useful thing.

Our Special Team performances – is there really any comparison. Last year, they were a liability consistently. This year, we have been getting it done consistently.

Beside that, we are far YOUNGER than we were. Our team is riddled with youth all over the place. We have a few grizzled veterans (one of which we are really really missing right now, or the last two weeks might have gone quite a bit differently), but the core of this team is young!

We are way better than we were last year in a lot of areas and we have way more upside looking us in the face (and the coaching staff that has some idea how to realize that potential instead of a mini hoodie dictator). We have a FO that has made quality personnel decisions from the first draft pick, all the way through.

These Broncos are exorcising the ghosts of the last couple years. No comparison. To say we are no better than we were last year is completely ignoring all of the major steps forward. I realize that one key element that is currently eluding us this year is an explosive passing game, but keep in mind that none of the key players in that are more than 2nd year vets who are really just having an extended rookie campaign and they are showing improvement all the time!

by Da Bum on Dec 29, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

this

recd

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by broncowrestler29 on Dec 29, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes, the defense was far superior.

But the Bronco’s offense has been horrible in the first 3-and-2/3 quarters of most games, the passing game has been bad as you said, and special teams has been pretty bad the last few games. And the running game? I think most of it has been Tebow, hasn’t it? Take away the four or five freakish last minute/overtime wins, they’re a 5-10 or 4-11 team right now instead of 9-7. So OVERALL, put special emphasis on OVERALL, I’m not sure the Broncos are any better this year than they were last year. Except for wins, of course.

by CompUser on Dec 29, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Comp, are you serious...really? We have a young team that is improving on all sides of ball...

Better front office, better caching staff.
I cant see how anyone cant say we are an improved team.

Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!

"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:

Champ Bailey.

by boydy2669 on Dec 29, 2011 5:46 PM MST up reply actions  

8-8 playoff team.

Victory is sweet, even deep in the cheap seats.

by KoloradoKaos on Jan 4, 2012 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

How can you possibly believe this?

Look at pretty much every aspect of this team, and the only area that we are lesser in any way is our passing game, which was not all that effective last year either (it got a lot of yards, but not a lot of points and made a lot of turnovers) and our veteran leadership on offense (which was also not all that effective last year). In every other aspect of the game, we have shown marked improvement, including the very important team chemistry and the even more important… victories. Our passing is less in some aspects, but remember that these guys are YOUNG. They are all 2nd year players or rookies who had no off-season at all.

Specifically to your points: No, Willis McGahee is the first 1000 yard rusher in Denver in a long time, so no, the rushing stats are not all Tim Tebow related (he certainly adds a dimension of uncertainty to the defense, but that is what a passing attack is supposed to do as well). We definitely had a stretch of football where we started very slowly in games, offensively, but they have not all been 3 and 2/3 waiting around. Based on the circumstances (you know, essentially a rookie taking over mid season with zero first team reps, trading our only veteran WR that can catch, changing offensive focus to meet our strengths, etc.), was that a surprise? And we have gotten better at starting faster each week. The last two games, we have come out and scored early only to slow down in the 2nd quarter (primarily through turnovers). The Raider game we scored consistently. The Viking game we scored consistently. If we had not shot ourselves with turnovers, we would have been firing all game against the Pats and Bills. We have had a rash of drops from YOUNG receivers, which is not uncommon. Special Teams have struggled for the last two games, specifically. Prior to that, they were actually doing well. Maybe not great, but compared to last year…. well is HUGE improvement.

So OVERALL (yes, special emphasis on that), we are WAY better than last year’s Broncos and we have not even hit our stride yet!

by Da Bum on Dec 29, 2011 5:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I know your looking at the whole situation in a different light than most of us and thats OK...

We could call winning the come from behind games ‘luck’, ‘devine intervention’, a ‘motivated desire’, or a combination of all three. But a win is a win and or team post the Orton era seemed to want to win more than they ever did. Sure we struggled the last two weeks and that happens, we’re a growing team with a lot of youth. Our OLine hasn’t become fully acquainted with how to play as a unit yet, but we see improvement. Our defense has struggled at stopping the run and passes, but they seem to shut the opponent down at the right moment. Playcalling a part of that equation? Possible, but I think it has to do with a burning desire to play above what they are capable of playing. Right now for the first time in years we don’t have any players bickering at one another or in trouble with the head coach (that we’ve heard of) and that speaks volumes of where we were. All in all, we’ve made several strides at improvement on both sides of the ball. Time will tell where we end up, but the outlook looks a lot better than it did this time last season…

"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
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by bfree2bronc on Dec 29, 2011 6:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I think CompUser makes some good points

Like most people, I like this Bronco team and season better than last, and I’m more hopeful now than last year. Stability and an identity are a good thing.

However, our W-L record is out of whack with other team indicators. This 2011 Bronco team has a -77 point differential. That’s better than the 2010 16 game differential of -127 net points; however, a -77 point differential is historically a 6 win team.

So if we had ended up this year with 6 wins, more in line with other performance indicators, how would people feel about the season? Would it be fair to say we are still in a rebuilding mode?

I appreciate a level-headed discussion and analysis. As fans, we tend to swing too much to either pole, and not be open to holding opposing viewpoints simultaneously.

Thanks for making me think CompUser.

by MichaelCushman on Dec 30, 2011 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Managing Expectations

The Chefs beat GB, a team the Broncos lost to by a wide margin. The Chefs lost to the Raiders in a close one and low scoring game and lost a close one to the Broncos in KC. So the Chefs must have a pretty good defense. Therefore, I predict the Broncos will blow out the Chefs in Denver to make the playoffs. I don’t need a reason. I just gotta believe the Broncos will get it done. If the Broncos win in a close one, I won’t be disappointed, but I’m expecting a statement game from the Broncos.

If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.

by OrangeandBluesBros on Dec 29, 2011 1:27 PM MST reply actions  

Win, lose or draw, we have lots to be thankful for and building materials to finish the House That John built...

"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...

by bfree2bronc on Dec 29, 2011 1:29 PM MST reply actions  

Yes this season was a success.

After last year, I had the Broncos winning @ 4-6 wins so the fact the they are 8-7 right now with the division title within their grasp is a success for me. Especially from a 4-12 record. I know the FO is still up in the air over our QB, however they got a good sample size to move forward during a real offseason. We also saw a pass rush develop between Dumervil and Miller that we were all hoping to see. Decker has made his presence known and Demaryius Thomas was finally healthy and is a big asset for our WR corp moving forward. Specal Teams has improved as well so with a whole offseason to work with for 2012, I am excited to see what happens and it will be so much better if it was coming off a playoff year

Go Broncos!!

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by weazel on Dec 29, 2011 1:32 PM MST reply actions  

I started smiling in week 6 and haven't stopped since.

broncorat

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by broncorat on Dec 29, 2011 1:34 PM MST reply actions  

Will i be happy? Hell no

at least until the super bowl is over. Then we can all look back and remember the ride we all went through, and the improvement this team, this young team went through.

Keep in mind, we’re a young, young team. Tebow has earned a chance to start next year, im sure we’ll bring in some competition, but this will be Tebow’s first ever full offseason with coaches and Elway.

Von Miller. The guy is a beast and a Pro-Bowler for many years to come. Chris Harris plays with a giant chip on his shoulder and is a solid addition to our secondary. Orlando Franklin has stepped in and did a good job at RT, Virgil Green has done a solid job as a run blocking TE. Rahim Moore and Quinton Carter have had a roller coaster year, but hopefully each will improve next year.

Now we’ll have another draft and free agency to improve the team. Our team has alot of cap space so we could see a major addition or 2. So things are heading in the right direction.

Go Broncos!!! Playoffs here comes a magical run from us!

by Scotty Payne on Dec 29, 2011 1:48 PM MST reply actions  

Evaluation

is done after the season is over. I agree with you though. Right now, with the situation we are in to sieze the opportunity of a home playoff game, yes I will be disappointed if we blow it. That said, we have turned a corner and improved greatly. It has been a fun year.

"When it comes to football, God is prejudiced toward big, fast kids."
-Chuck Mills

by Digger24 on Dec 29, 2011 2:07 PM MST reply actions  

Amen, brother! You've got my rec

To your original discussion you were having about the draft picks, it’s shocking to me to hear how much people suddenly expect. We’ve got the great Von Miller doing his thing, Franklin starting every game, improving and certainly looking better than many veteran starters across the league. We’ve also got rookie safeties hitting up some major playing time in Rahim Moore and Quinton Carter – including many starts. As the safety – as the last line of defense – that’s pretty uncommon. And then we’ve also got undrafted rookie Chris Harris making waves and getting a heckuva lot of playing time at corner.

Playing that many rookies and not absolutely sucking on defense is a major accomplishment in and of itself. And with no offseason. That’s enough rookies for one year. It’s not surprising to me that third-round MLB Nate Irving isn’t being thrown into the mix as the defensive quarterback while the playoffs have been on the line for weeks now.

And Julius Thomas is likely in the same boat. We’re blocking with our TEs a ton. That’s far and away the toughest curve to learn for TEs entering the NFL, especially a basketball player recently turned footballer. With Fells and Rosario in there, it’s not hard to see why we’re not throwing in the rookie just for bragging rights. Enough is enough.

If we started more rookies we’d lose more games. Whether they’re good picks or not, rookies make mistakes. We’re already giving substantial playing time to at least five rookies. That’s a lot! And folks want more? I just don’t get it.

So we had a bad game. What. There's no crying in football. Dust yourselves off and keep that knee from jerking. The Broncos still control their own destiny. And I have faith in that.

by Rodney A on Dec 29, 2011 2:21 PM MST reply actions  

I'm with Colby and Rodney.

Appreciate both of you for reading my mind and not going public with the bad stuff.

by idahobronc on Dec 29, 2011 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Hope you have your tin foil cap on.

Victory is sweet, even deep in the cheap seats.

by KoloradoKaos on Jan 4, 2012 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

All I wanted was to have fun again watching my favorite team in the whole world play. Last year and the start of this year were simply depressing. I’ve had more fun and excitement this season than I have had in years. Thank you Broncos, Elway, Tebow..everyone!

by loganberry on Dec 29, 2011 2:23 PM MST reply actions  

I have no idea what to make of the Broncos' 2011 season...

I just know that I’d like for a medical team to be on standby for me on Sunday. Win, lose, or draw, if I haven’t posted that evening, please call 911.

by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 29, 2011 2:24 PM MST reply actions  

OK will do.

I’ll say some guy named Tease a cat and poke it hasn’t posted and he must need help.

The best of the 2011-2012 season is yet to come.

by Digger24 on Dec 29, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I bet on New Year's...

… 911 gets that call at least a dozen times.

by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 29, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I am predicting a huge game from the defense, particularly miller bailey and elvis.

"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."

by chaucer on Dec 29, 2011 2:27 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

It all depends on how we play this week

If the cheifs game goes the way of the bills and the patriots, then I have to wonder how much do we really know about this team? Going a step further, if they lose badly to the chiefs, and then come out playing badly in 2012, are we any better off then the 2009 -2010 team?
I would like to see this team play a complete game. A full 60 minutes of playing hard AND smart football. The Bears game is the closest I have seen to that, and even then I would say we only had 2 of the 3 units playing at their best at any given time. Until I see that I don’t think I can say one way or the other about if we’ve truly improved as a team or not.

by gOOn on Dec 29, 2011 2:29 PM MST reply actions  

a full 60 minutes

means we win by 10 or more, let’s do it!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I wouldnt be surprised if broncos ended up in superbowl this year. Really, I believe they have a legit shot. With tebow at qb, anything is possible.

"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."

by chaucer on Dec 29, 2011 2:30 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

and the Bills would have been the last team to beat us

sounds good to me :)

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Dec 29, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

DIVISION TITLE!!!

I am leaving it at that for now. When you have a division title in your hands in the NFL and hold onto it after the previous season’s debacle and rebounding from a poor start this year, I would say that would be successful. However losing the division title at home in the last week of the season will really piss me off and probably cause problems at home and work (haha, just kidding, but I will be super pissed). The AFC West title is for the Broncos to lose right now, since they already are on top.

A home playoff game is obviously a bonus for winning the division, however I wouldn’t have high expectations for anything further. As a fan of course I would want the Broncos to roll through the playoffs, but as a level headed person I would say that we have a bright, but young team that isn’t equipped as well as any of the other NFL playoff teams…and I’m ok with that. The Broncos will only get better throughout the offseason and in next year, and for years to come!

PS I want Von Miller to arrive often, swiftly, and angrily at Kyle Orton on Sunday.

by heehawdenv on Dec 29, 2011 2:47 PM MST reply actions  

Today's small successes lead to tomorrow's big ones

I will take 8-8 as a small success.

I will take 9-7 with a first round playoff loss as a medium success

I would count 9-7 with two playoff wins a large success.

SB title would be heaven.

I just want to see the Broncos score LOTS of points, beat the SNOT out of the opponent, and walk away with a humble "God Bless". How about you?

by 83BroncoFan on Dec 29, 2011 2:52 PM MST reply actions  

The year is a success for me right now.

The positive changes from the top on down have set the slate for a great new era for the Broncos. After the summer and spring preseason we get to start all over again with a clean slate and players that have received better training and have more experience moving on.

Like the rest of you,I wouldn’t mind a great showing in the play offs this year though, and who wouldn’t want a miraculous SB win THIS YEAR?

It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on aimlessly and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.

by metalman5050 on Dec 29, 2011 4:11 PM MST reply actions  

i want

9-7 and a win over pitt nodisrepcet to BSC but my fam is pitt fans and beating them would be my super bowl my dad laughs at my team and says we have no change against pitt my own dad

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider Stay humble in victory respect all fear none and finish larry soprano

by j-man on Dec 29, 2011 5:16 PM MST reply actions  

Sorry j-man

My hopes are not for Pitt to come to Denver. The fans make it so it’s hardly even a home game for us. No Thanks. Give me Balt. please.

The best of the 2011-2012 season is yet to come.

by Digger24 on Dec 29, 2011 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Man I used to remeber the between years the Steelers had and when they were pathetic.

They can be obnoxious after a few winning years. The Good Lord needs to take that bunch down a notch or two…

"What's better than 5 - 0?!?...[The whole locker room] 6 - 0"!!!
Head Coach John Fox in the locker room madness following a 13-10 victory over the Bears...

by bfree2bronc on Dec 29, 2011 6:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Hi, j-man

I don’t care whether the Broncos win the division by beating the Chiefs, or if they win the division by the Chargers beating the Raiders, so long as they win the division.

Assuming that we DO win the division, the team I’m really rooting for this weekend is the Bengals! Why – you ask?

Because if the Bengals beat the Ravens, and the Steelers win that division, then I think we’d be playing the Ravens at home in Denver in the first round of the playoffs (somebody please confirm for me that this is correct). And we know how the Ravens manage to lose unexpectedly on the road.

What could be better than to play the Ravens in Denver and give them a chance to blow a game to us? Seems like an easier game than trying to beat the Steelers….

by bill2975 on Dec 29, 2011 8:24 PM MST up reply actions  

bill

there no right wrong way yes pitt has great fans great qb great WR are very hard to beat but ben is playing this weekend i think and if his ankle is not well it limits his running around making plays their OL is bad and they will not have R clark because he cannot play at atdude to beat pitt u must play get them early because they get hotter as the playoffs goes on yes Balt is a weak road team but they have 4 Hall of fame def players while pitt can be run on all pitt wants to do is rush the passer and cause T O Troy P tried to guess the plays if u block him u can get some deep plays IF u block their zone blitz he is their sercat weapon

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider Stay humble in victory respect all fear none and finish larry soprano

by j-man on Dec 29, 2011 9:20 PM MST up reply actions  

You are right on

Thank you, you have said what I have been thinking. This year has been much better than I had hoped it would be.

Richard Antill - Fan in Poky Idaho

by PokyID_Fan on Dec 29, 2011 5:23 PM MST reply actions  

After seeing how much this team has improved....

…throughout this entire season, without an offseason and with a new coach, 2011 was definitely a success. The fact that we can even speak about making the playoffs is a testament to that. Win or lose, I’m proud of what this team has done this year.

by TheBrownKnight on Dec 29, 2011 5:37 PM MST reply actions  

Depends on how you define success

is it based on individuals expectations?
is it based on the goal of the team?
is it based on results?
is it based on standing vs your peers?

Depends how you look at it. I’d say there will be only 1 successful team this year and that’s the team that wins it all. But thats how I’d define success. Others will differ.

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Dec 29, 2011 8:21 PM MST reply actions  

absolutely a success!

before the start of the season i said they win 3 with orton running the ship. i was hoping for tt to see if we had a qb or get a high draft pick in the draft. i didn’t sign up for direct nfl ticket because i didn’t want to watch orton, it’s too painful. got the nfl package the minute tt started playing and what a season of excitement we’ve had. it wasn’t pretty at times, but i have seen improvement. i can’t wait to see what the offseason will bring, once this season is over. in my opinion, everything that happens is just icing on the cake.

by golfdoc on Dec 30, 2011 1:54 AM MST reply actions  

DEFIANTLY IMPROVED THIS SEASON

Going from 4 & 12 to 8 &8 is an improvement but 9 & 7 would be much better. The season will be disappointing if the Broncos don’t win this weekend and the hated raiders do and win the division . winning this weekend and the division over oakland will be like beating them again this season and that is always on the top of the list of things for a successful season . The Broncos need to win big this week and go into the playoffs with momentum .
PLAYOFFS PLAYOFFS YES WE ARE TALKING PLAYOFFS !!!

by ultraclassic04 on Dec 30, 2011 6:47 AM MST reply actions  

Considering how young this team is, of course it's a success!

This week’s game is a playoff game in my book. Win and continue on…..

We know we have needs in the offseason (DB’s, MLB, RB depth, McCoy?), but we can’t worry about that now. Time to step up and keep this train going!

W-L record doesn't matter to me.... I just want to see a team on the rise at the end of the year!

by Broncotodd on Dec 30, 2011 8:38 AM MST reply actions  

I think over the past 6 years we (Bronco fans) have fallen prey to the

“diminished expectations syndrome”. I hate that I am saying “a 9-7 season is a success” instead of saying “anything but a SB is a bad year”. But that is where we are right now. That being said, I do think a 9-7 yr is a success, particularly if it includes the playoffs. I was a big optimist at the start of the year (I tend to be “Susie Sunshine”, the eternal optimist anyway) feeling the Broncs had a shot at the division… my reasoning being that in the NFL worst to first is very possible given free agency and the way scheduling is done. What I was more interested in was what were we building for the future? TT has given me hope at the QB position, our OL is going to be one of the best for a number of years and I really like where we are headed defensively. I have seen improvement in all areas of our team, we now have an identity and this is critical. I have confidence in our front office once more to make the right decisions based on a sound philosophy of what Bronco football is going to look like. So, while I agree, in the broadest sense that 8-8 or 9-7 with the playoffs is an improvement, I’m more excited about where we’re headed…and I haven’t felt that way for some time.

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by rubincarterrocks on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 AM MST reply actions  

I seem to like

"Susie Sunshine"s better than “Debbie Downer”s.

The best of the 2011-2012 season is yet to come.

by Digger24 on Dec 30, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

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