Maybe the Broncos should reconsider.

If we could pick up a QB – maybe even undrafted – who will likely be smaller and faster but can throw too to backup Tebow, then we’d be okay in case Tebow got hurt. However, looking at Tebow history – he is amazingly durable for a QB who runs too much….

I was thinking much along the same lines. Before we released Orton I was thinking we could trade Orton to Kansas City in exchange for that kid they have starting now. He is much like Tebow. Big, strong, runs well, left-handed. I’m glad Haley doesn’t have a clue what to do with him. As for next year, I’ll bet we could get a player with Tebowesque skills pretty cheap, even UFA. Thanks Jack, rec’d.

With the success the Broncos are having and like you say, the availability of players that fit this style of play, why not? I don’t know how long this ride will last, but it works as a sound business model. At least to me.

Granted they might not have the legs that Tebow has, but I’d like to think they can adapt to what Mike McCoy is giving them. I would draft a mobil type quarterback sometime in the draft, but is it a priority (need of the first rd type) that EFX decides to forego other positions to directly address the QB position? I’m having a hard time grasping the nature of the quest…

Demaryius Thomas is now playing an offense he prepared for in college. Georgia Tech is a run first school with a every once in awhile long throw vertically down field just like Tebow is doing. Thomas imo is still hampered by the Achilles injury. He may never fully recover from such a devastating injury. I still have high hopes for WR Mark Dell who is on IR. The kid has potential and very good hands and the ability to break away from defenders into open space. To bad he got injured before he had a chance to show the coaches what he could bring.

The offseason will make or break Timmie Tebow and EFX will have plenty of time to evaluate him and his progressions. He has to become that pocket passer that EFX envision in carrying the Broncos beyond the playoffs. Sure the Broncos will be a run to set up the pass, but coach Fox still knows that it is a matter of time when 30/70 in the pass to run ratio won’t be enough to get by the great defenses of the league. Timmie must get to 55-58% completions and 40-45/60-55 ration pass to run to be successful. But don’t listen to what I say, because I don’t know anything other than what I hear and what my eyes tell me…

I hear Eric Crouch got a job in the UFL. If he’s in shape, lets call him and draft another need.

I actually like what we are doing to the NFL in terms of “the big slap in the face”. I want to see this new (to the NFL) Offensive concept continue to develop, especially after what McCoy said on the NFL Network this morning.

He and his staff, and the offense, are having a ball developing this, with new wrinkles every week, and I don’t think that the Broncos are in any hurry to deviate from the concept. New stuff is added every week, and as Tim and the receiver’s jell more from week to week we will see a lot more of that added.

I see McCoy developing a combination of plays like the NFL has never had to plan for or deal with, and Defensive coordinators are about to start sporting gray hairs faster then ever seen in the history of the game! Anyway, here’s hoping that it works out that way.

5th rounder

Tim may eventually become the greatest backup ever or they could become perfectly interchangable. RGIII is worth it. RGIII developing under the tutelage of Elway and Tebow. The intangible value is worth our #1, #2 and maybe #3. They can recreate the NFL as Vick has shown flashes in his smallish undurable frame. If we draft DB and OL afterward we make a very serious, prolonged run.

Going all-in on Tebow this season was/is one thing. But spending a draft pick that’s like him and that will only be effective in this system – a system built for Tebow – well, that’s a very real and long term commitment. Even if this backup QB is only a 4th rounder, that’s a 4th round pick you’re selecting for the sole purpose of being Tebow’s backup – not just a general backup, but a backup for this specific QB and for this specific offense. I think it’s too early to expect any kind of commitment like that. But maybe after next year.

I would look seriously at how Blake Bell, a freshman QB for the Oklahoma Sooners, develops. 6 foot 6, 245#, and runs like a Tebow clone. He is already being successfully used in a RZ package that is very reminiscent of Tebow at Florida….They call it the Belldozer. Serious suggestion, guys, not just spitballing.

Would require a much more indepth playbook, otherwise teams this off-season will have plenty of time to game plan for it. Also like you said, if Tebow gets injured, our new QB will have to fit into Tebow’s mold or else the offense won’t work. That would mean drafting a mobile QB this off-season, or bringing in a mobile vet.

To commit to this long term has some major risks, and would require complete commitment in terms of drafting mindset, and what scares me is that long term we will lack variety enough to compete long term. What makes a good offense is either making it so sound, and having such good players to execute it i.e. Indy and Manning, or having a wide variety of plays. Making a simple, rigid offense won’t last long in the NFL, so it’s a big risk, and high cost, to commit to this long term.

I’m working a basketball tournament this week end so I’m gone most of the time. And to top it off we’re also having some network issues here.

One of the advantages I see to commiting to this system is that it is capable of being balanced. As someone said above, there are all kinds of neat little wrinkles and adjustments that can be made to make it more than viable. Another advantage is that it’s not something that the rest of the NFL sees everyday so practically speaking, many other teams will have to start from scratch to prepare for it and even after they get their philosophy down, they won’t see it often enough to get comfortable with it, at least until other teams begin to copy it (which they will if it becomes successful).

I liken it to the 3/4 defense the Orange Crush played back when nobody else in the NFL was playing it. It too, was considered a “gimmick” defense and wasn’t well respected, despite it’s success. I think that’s part of why some of those great Broncos are not in the H.O.F. Now a lot of teams have adapted parts of it to suit their needs. The same thing might be said of the zone blocking scheme. That was a scheme that nobody else but the Broncos ran and it gave other teams fits. That, more than anything else may have been reasponsible for all thoose years of great Bronco rushing attacks. What Collier did with the defense, (Crap, my memory fails me) did with the offensive line. They created systems that fit their personnel rather than forcing their personnel to fit some preconceived scheme that wouldn’t work as well for them. Both revolutionized the game and brought great success to the Broncos and in time, other teams saw the good ideas and copied them.

Now the Broncos have a lot of offensive personnel who are better suited to run the read option. We could scrap the whole offensive scheme and replace those people with others better suited for the pro-style scheme, or we could go with it since we already have a lot of the pieces, including perhaps the best college quarterback who ever ran the option. And in the mean time, if we grab onto these kinds of people who fit the Tebow system, we might get the very best before anybody else even knows what’s happening. It could spell years of dominance.

I’m just saying. Gotta go back to the basketball tournament but I’ll try to check in later to see what you guys think.

I’m loving all this discussion though. It’s fantastic! Maybe nothing will come of it, but who knows, maybe something will.

you don’t try to find a backup Troy Polamalu. Etc.

that it’s going to be the read option from now on? Notice we’re not scoring a lot of points with it. We’ve been winning because of lights-out defense and clutch play from Tebow in crunch time. I think the plan is for him to learn to rapidly go through his progressions in the pocket and get the ball to the open man. We’ll score far more points that way than with an 80% ground game offense. The read option offense is just a way to make the most of his existing skill set while he develops as a passing QB.

He’s playing over seas now. He’s older and wiser but hasn’t played a lot so should still be healthy. He’s gotta be watching this offense and Tim Tebow thinking that he may have been before his time.

C’mon, Give the ol’ Ram another shot in the NFL.

I don’t think TT is any different of a QB than what all these coaches have wanted for years..

That is, a balanced attack.

You remember the Super bowl Bucs from a few years ago.. They did that with a mediocre QB (I really liked him though) and an awesome defense and a solid running and passing game.

I have been saying all along, you can check my comments, that TT is not an option QB per say, as he made most of his money in the air at UF.

His run game is outstanding, that part might be hard to replace, but he is just a well developed, misunderstood, big happy kid that has a starting QB job at Denver.
He has done everything his coaches have asked, which has led to a string of successful coaches..you can check that record too..

McCoy is going to earn a head coaches spot out of TT..
last prediction:
Tim won’t get hurt.. if he does, you won’t know it.

If the time comes later when he gets caught off guard and gets the wind knocked out of him, he will be back up to speed right quick like. You would have to give him an open head wound or break his back, and it is encased in 250+ lbs of muscle..