I need to rant.
by Scotty Payne on Dec 4, 2011 7:17 PM MST
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PrintFirst off, HELL YEAH 1ST PLACE!!! 1-4 seems like ages ago. Since Tebow has gone in, it feels like a completely new season. Winning, energy, hope and Tebow time. It's an exciting time to be a Bronco fan. Now let me get into some specifics.
1. We have some higher power helping us, we have to. That miracle comeback against Miami, Oakland not having DMC, Vikings not having AP, Andre Goodman playing like a good corner at times, The bears losing their 2 most important offensive players in consecutive weeks before coming to Denver, San Diego collapsing, and The Oakland Raiders choking down the stretch. Everything is falling our way, and i love it.
2. The Raiders losing to the Dolphins all but secured the Division for us i think. Their schedule gets brutal, Green Bay, and Detroit, which could be consecutive losses. We have very winnable games upcoming. Chicago is beatup bad, New England struggles against good defenses, Buffalo stinks, and Falco/Orton led chiefs are very beatable with our pass-rush. We could easily win out, or go 10-6. Get the 3rd or 4th seed in the AFC. Which means a HOME playoff game at Mile High. The place will be Rocking and we get to witness some Tebow magic mixed in with some Orange Crush. Such an exciting time to be a Denver Bronco fan
3. Von Miller is one of the most important player on this team. Sure Tebow, Champ, Dawkins are all up there. But our defense seemed to be missing something without the mad man Von making plays everywhere. Hope he gets healthy soon!
Also, does anyone else think Haggen should start over Mays at Mike? Haggen was a beast today. I know he struggles in coverage, but can't be much worse than mays. Idk, just a thought
4. John Fox deserves coach of the year. Sure McCarthy would be the easy choice, but comon. He has Aaron Rodgers and one of the best offenses ever in the History of the NFL. Fox is winning with a "Guy who can't play QB" with a "College Offense"...6-1 Later, 1st place in the AFC West, for all the hate we spewed towards him for not playing Tebow, he deserves ALOT of credit for making the switch to Tebow and installing the read option offense(though i didnt see much of it today)
5. Willis McGahee, i have to admit, i doubted that you would be a major impact on our offense, glad i am wrong. Dude is ballin. He is just as important as Tebow to this offense.
6. PASS. THE. BALL. MCCOY. Not going to lie, i was ready to hunt down the guy after the first half, the game thread was getting chippy, i was holding back words against people everything was tense. Then came the 2nd half, everything changed. We opened with a pass, then the run game opened up. Then we continued to pass, and what do you know. HE CAN THROW THE BALL!(Watch some tape from those 3 games last year...)
But for as much slack McCoy gets on here from me and many others, he deserves credit for that 2nd half. He opened up the playbook and Tebow didnt disappoint. Tebow has showed improvement every game, credit has to go to the coaches. So hopefully we'll see some more passes, this offense will be deadly if Tebow's arm becomes a weapon.
i think i had more, but i'm to amped right now to think clearly. So if you guys have anything to add go ahead. But guys,
WE ARE IN 1ST PLACE!!!
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Nice thoughts
Agree with most of it. I would be surprised if anyone but Harbaugh in SF got coach of the year. The turnaround for those guys has been pretty impressive, don’t you think?
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams
by orange&blue_aussie on Dec 4, 2011 7:25 PM MST reply actions
I think San Francisco has been more impressive quite frankly
They’ve beaten stronger teams along with their weak division rivals. He’s turned around the perennial underachiever in Alex Smith and they are striding into the finals.
I think if Fox had recognised the way his team should go from the beginning and gone with Tebow from the start, then he would be a shoo-in. And i give him major coaching points for adjusting his philosophy to Tebow. I’m just not sure it’s enough to overcome how good SF have become in very similar circumstances.
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams
by orange&blue_aussie on Dec 4, 2011 7:41 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, their turnaround is impressive, but Denver's has been much more unlikely.
Our Defense was last in the NFL last year. LAST. And in addition to that, we are playing a QB who has yet to go through a full training camp, one of the youngest O-lines in the league, and our most impactful defensive player is rookie. In SF, they are much improved, but they have been building that team for a number of years. Yes, Harbaugh has made it all come together, but he had a helluva lot more to work with than Fox.
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by the_prodigal_fan on Dec 4, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I tend to agree
Patrick Willis, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, those two young O-Lineman, the emergence of Bowman, Whitner & Carlos Rodgers kicking it into overdrive….. many things came together for that team at the right time.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... HE may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals" Prime on Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another"
Well we both started with underachieving quarterbacks - Orton and Smith
I hear what you’re saying about their talent. But they’ve been much more convincing winners along the way as well – and they have a better record.
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams
by orange&blue_aussie on Dec 4, 2011 7:43 PM MST up reply actions
It most likely will be the SF HC. They all feal sorry that he lost to his Bro.
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on aimlessly and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
Agree with everything. Harbuagh and SF have had a great year but they also play in the NFC West and have a ton of talent. This turnaround has been far more special.
The raiders will definitely lose at least 2 more games. Packers is a no question L and i dont think they will be able to beat Det, KC and SD in a row. Also, patriots may struggle against good defenses but the fact is Tom Brady is their qb and Andre Goodman is our number 2 corner. I love our pass rush and we have a capable secondary. But overall the patriots have too many weapons i think. We should definitely beat Chi and KC. Both are home games and both teams have nobody healthy. Buffalo should be close but we should ultimately win.
Haggan should start at MIKE over Mays. Mays was horrible today again
Von Miller for DPOY '12
by BroncofanfromBoston on Dec 4, 2011 7:39 PM MST reply actions
Haggan did have a great game... but so did Mays.
Either way, God I miss Von Miller.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... HE may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals" Prime on Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another"
I think McCoy is taking too much heat for the 1st
he was calling the game fine. The problem was the players weren’t executing. We failed multiple times to convert on 3rd and short which is a running down. We had big plays in both the run and passing game called back due to penalties. We lost two fumbles and had two sacks.
The Broncos called 9 run plays and 9 pass plays (2 resulted in a sack, and another Tebow tucked it) and 2 of those run plays were on short yardage. McCoy does not deserve the slack he’s getting for play calling. Now the offense’s ineffectiveness in the 1st can come back to coaching so I won’t defend him there but playcalling was fine today.
And now for something completely different
not too mention the safety where Fells let Allen in the backfield unblocked
And now for something completely different
If McCoy opened up the playbook there must be a few pages missing.
Broken record or no until McCoy incorporates some old Elway staples we are misusing Tebow. This kid NEEDS to be "out in space", throwing on the run, off of boot legs and play action. How in blue blazes are we missing these basic aspects of tailoring the offense to Tebow’s present skills?
"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."
By the way, Ponder ran the exact type of play I'm referring to to great success throughout the game!
"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."
by BroncoCUbuffs on Dec 4, 2011 7:47 PM MST up reply actions
That's what the option does
it get’s the defense flowing one direction and Tebow pulls it and goes the other way. It really is just a shotgun variation of the bootleg.
The Broncos didn’t run a bootleg every single play with Elway. They pounded the ball down the middle, got the defense thinking run and then pulled the bootleg out to catch the opposing team off guard. That is exactly what this team does but with the option instead of the bootleg.
And now for something completely different
Where, where does my post say "The Broncos run a bootleg every single play? Please, stop putting your words in somebody eles's mouth.
I have to disagree with the option accomplishing the same thing as the bootleg….completely different reactions by the defense IMOP.
"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."
by BroncoCUbuffs on Dec 4, 2011 8:17 PM MST up reply actions
Further clarification...."naked bootleg".
"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."
by BroncoCUbuffs on Dec 4, 2011 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
Mccoy was horrible first half. I literally knew every play that was coming. If its an incompletion or no yard gain on first down, WE WILL RUN IT ON SECOND DOWN. Everything was so predictable it was a joke. Its nice to have that balance but we ran when the whole world knew we would and passed in the same circumstance
Von Miller for DPOY '12
by BroncofanfromBoston on Dec 4, 2011 7:49 PM MST reply actions
I can predict what the Packers do
The fact is why change until teams prove they can stop it. The Broncos average OVER 200 yards on the ground with Tebow and people want us to quit running. Why? I personally would much rather have a dominant running game with a competent passing game then the other way around. Running the ball effectively keeps the clocking moving and your defense fresher.
And for the record the broncos ran it 3 times (one time on 2nd and 2) on 2nd down and threw it twice down on 2nd in the 1st half today.
And now for something completely different
First off the 49ers are in a VERY WEEK division The Bronco Turn around is bigger
The Guy who put up those billboards for coach of the year
" He conquers who endures."
AFC West is pretty weak too.
But not as weak as the NFC west…barely.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Dec 5, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions
More of a recap than a rant.
A rant would be about those horrible one sided refs we suffered thru today. We got home towned by that crew.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you.
Dunno, they gave us 2 calls that had to be reversed on challenge
Like DT’s 3rd down catch when he was out of bounds. Fraser had to challenge to get it right. And it was a big call, as we struggled and 3rd down conversion would’ve been big for us
Yep, it was almost as if the refs wanted to see if Tim could lead another 4th quarter comeback.
Guess they found out.
" I'm blessed to be part of a team with very unselfish players who don't care about statistics, they just care about winning" - Tebow owning Michael Irvin when Irvin asked him "what do you say to your receivers after you throw a ball in the dirt and miss them".
I like what Mike McCoy said at half time...
Paraphrasing here: The offense is what it is, we’re not changing it now. You have to look in the mirror and decide if you want it bad enough.
Fox/McCoy will go to just about any lengths to establish the run, thats what they do even though the offense studdered doing it at first…
I’m getting to the point now that I’m relaxed all through the game even though we’re down a couple of scores! Is that weird or what? I just have the feeling something really special is going to happen and it has so far. And with that I’ll take it…
The most valuable possession you can own is an open heart. The most powerful weapon you can be is an instrument of peace.
Carlos Santana
Haha i try to be relaxed
but man that run that led to the safety had me going. Just seems like once we open the pass game up, the offense scores and can score alot(This game and the Raider game)
Seems like we run all over people...
Unless they commit entirely to stopping the run like the Vikes did today.
If Tebow can keep making them pay (and how about a Beybey sighting!!!!!) then this offense will be limited only by McCoy’s lack of creativity and/or intelligence.
Go-Go Gadget Tebow!!!!
Somewhere Josh McDaniels was smiling haha
BeyBey and Tebow went off. That could be a dangerous connection for years to come, and oh yeah we have Decker too who’s not too shabby!
No Josh is not smiling.
His Rams offense is dismal and he should be fired for the second time in 2 years.
" I'm blessed to be part of a team with very unselfish players who don't care about statistics, they just care about winning" - Tebow owning Michael Irvin when Irvin asked him "what do you say to your receivers after you throw a ball in the dirt and miss them".
by asinsoin on Dec 4, 2011 10:19 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure its McCoy....
Seems to me he is calling Fox’s game plan…running to reduce the number of offensive series the other teams gets by a third over “normal” opponent…less chances for Tim -ala no off season – to make mistakes and more time with measured steps to develop…and its working…Tebow looks alot more comfortable n the offense in the last two games…AND they are winning with adjustments….on the QB play credit also to Tim’s pure athleticism to overcome the lack of off season and first team reps earlier…great coaching…look for the wheels to come off in the playoffs or that critical game we may need to get in…until then…slooow first half’s and run on third down…No, Fox is calling the strategy and they wont tell all of us fans until after the season – so just grab the popcorn, open a beer, enjoy …and CHEER!
Goodman kept the vikings in the game.
The only good thing he did all day was the pick. Other than that, he looked bad.
by tiderfootball09 on Dec 4, 2011 10:46 PM MST reply actions
I was cursing goody the whole game.
Did you notice that the serious prior to the interception he got burned for the umteenth time? Fox or DA actually benched him. I think it was Bruton they put in the #2 corner position for the rest of that series!
Then Goody came in and made the pick. Looks like the coaches lit the proverbial fire!!
by Mile High ThundaDownUnda on Dec 5, 2011 12:08 AM MST up reply actions
I am in the minority and like the super conservative first half offense
I like seeing the running game, it’s refreshing.
I don’t get excited about passes. Oh look, a 20 yard pass? Yawn.
Show me a 20 yard run. Show me Willis. Show me Tebow.
If I want flashy passing I’ll watch Rodgers, Brady, or ever Fig Newton.
Besides, if we establish that run early, it makes the passing easier….whoa, when was the last time that ever worked in today’s game? Remember when everyone around here said we needed to get with the times and become pass first? HA, those were the days…
Other than that, stoked on the rest of the schedule. Hopefully playoffs.
POP POP!!!
Don't get me wrong i love the run
but you have to pass at least some in some occasions. Gets the safety out of the box, gets the linebackers on their heals in-case of a play action. Eventually it will open up more running lanes for Willis.
Before we started to pass, how many big runs did McGahee get?
by Scotty Payne on Dec 5, 2011 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
1. Nice to have it fall our way for a change
2. Big swing week for us for sure. Right now, I could see both teams ending 10-6, so that should give us the tiebreaker
3. We love the sacks and pressure, but Von’s overall game is quite impressive, a game that the D misses badly out there. With Von, their adjustments are that much harder to make
4. The only guy who can keep the award from Fox would be Jim Harbaugh. Hard to ignore how great the 49ers have been after having such an awful preseason
5. Willis McGahee looks like he finally found his way home after 8 or 9 years in the league. This could be his last year of being a full-workload starter, but he is making it count. A born-Bronco for sure
6. I’m going to go ahead and disagree a bit here and fault the execution on the field, especially o-line. 6 passes, 2 sacks on dropbacks, plus 2 QB runs to go with 9 rushes from others is actually quite balanced. It looked to me like both team’s offenses made the right adjustments at halftime. Tebow didn’t actually drop back much more in the 2nd half, but it sure seemed that way. More passes on first down would be nice though.
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