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but would still make the team better. And before y'all go off on me and my ancestry keep in mind that this is a mock and mocks are as much a way to think about the team as to give our opinions about what should be done in reality. This would not be my preference for the upcoming draft. At the same time, I think this draft would make the Broncos a better team both next year, and more importantly, over the long haul.

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The Broncos were 4-12 last year and it was not even a hopeful 4-12. We got ourselves blown out by the Raiders in one of the worst performances in team history. We endured a four game and a five game losing streak. We couldn't run the ball consistently or stop the run. On offense, we were awful on third downs and in the red zone. On defense we played well for a bit and then gave up a 40 yard play game after game after game. Further, our division is improving. The Chargers are still very talented and require that a good team play well to beat them. The Raiders have shown signs of being a team to be reckoned with, and the Chiefs proved they can win the division. At this point, we are a BAD football team in an increasingly competent division. We have holes just about everywhere on the team and the road from worst to first is likely to take more than one draft class and group of FA to travel.

I firmly believe that Tim Tebow has a very good NFL QB inside of him. I believe that having him under center on a bad football team actually increases the chances of that team to win an extra game or two. Bad football teams who are lacking in talent often have breakdowns in their play. Right now, Tebow's best characteristic is his ability to improvise in the face of adversity and turn a bad outcome on its head. Further, his style fits with what Fox will want to do which is pick up first downs, control the clock and keep games in the 20-17 range. If we can run that style, finish drives (which Tebow definitely showed he could do), and keep the defense off the field we can be competitive. 

On the defensive side of the ball, I expect that Fox and Allen will improve the defense through their experience and schemes before any switches in personnel are made. I expect that some players will improve from the switch to a 4-3, especially Robert Ayers. We never did find a true NT for out 3-4. I expect that a rotation of the DTs we have can play competently if not spectacularly. I am bummed about the implications of a 4-3 switch for Mario Haggan who looked like one of the few good pieces we managed for our 3-4 front seven.  Not sure if he can play in a 4-3 though I wouldn't be surprised if he found a way. Anyhow, even if we make zero moves on defense I expect the presence of Fox and Allen plus the changes in team chemistry and some pride will take take the team from dead last in defense into the upper 20s anyway. If we can wipe out our tendency to give up monster plays three or four times a game this group could play even better than that.

For this mock, I'm going to assume that the CBA gets done after the draft so there are no FA signings yet, and no trades of players for picks. Now keep in mind this is to think about the team. It's not necessarily what I would do in reality.

ROUND 1

A.J. Greene, WR Georgia, 6'4'', 205 lbs. Greene is a good sized receiver with speed. He has the ability to go across the middle or go deep. He's got good hands and the ability to catch balls thrown in his general area even if off target. He's seen as an elite prospect that would improve any WR corps in the NFL. Most fans (including me) see the Broncos' WR core as the strength of the team. At the same time, beyond Brandon Lloyd that strength is either journeyman (Gaffney and Royal) or unproven (Decker, Thomas, Willis). Further, the injuries to Thomas and Royal create some uncertainty around the position going into the offseason. Royal should be back, but we Broncos fans know how difficult hip injuries can be for WR. Thomas is highly unlikely to be ready until later in the season and probably won't be 100% anyway. Taking Greene gives a top level receiver to a QB that will need all the safety valves he can get as he matures. I don't know about you, but I can see Tebow on a 3rd down scramble having lots of success finding an all over the field guy like Greene. BTW, picking up third downs keeps our defense on the sideline.

ROUND 2

Mikel Leshoure, RB Ilinois, 6', 230 lbs. A big running back with decent speed, Leshoure would give us some physicality in the running game besides Tim Tebow. Even when we had improved our overall running game toward the end of the season, our ongoing problems with third and short seemed to remain. I like Knowshon, but want him complemented by a guy that can crunch over some opposition. Some of you have your hopes pinned on LenDale White, but he's never showed that he can put it all together and live up to his potential. LeShoure is a player that averaged 6 or more ypc both of his final two years. Once again, improving our ability to stay ahead of the chains by running the ball and converting short yardage situations keeps our defense off the field. A combination of Tebow, Moreno, and Leshoure would have a good chance to do just that.

ROUND 2

Danny Watkins, OG Baylor, 6'4'' 310lbs. A good-sized guard with a high motor and good feet, Watkins could be the perfect interior offensive lineman for a return to ZB as our primary scheme. He's athletic enough to move and work at the second level, but big enough that he can still get a push in the running game if we need to pick up 3rd and 2. He also played with Walton at Baylor which might improve the efficiency of his progress in our offensive line. While I think Beadles showed some improvement as the season progressed I am not sold on him as the long term starter. Either way, whether Watkins or Beadles starts, our depth in the interior OL will be better. Please let's not go into another season with Russ Hochstein as our top backup. Injuries happen, and our interior offensive line is paper thin after Kuper and Beadles. I expect this pick would improve our running game by making sure a good player starts and by maintaining quality if a starter goes down.

ROUND 3

DeMarcus Love, OT Arkansas, 6'5'' 315 lbs. An OT with good feet who can also get a push in the run game sounds like an ideal starter on the right side or a primary backup to both OT positions. Love is an experience player in the SEC who spent the latter part of his college career keeping a statue like Mallet upright. He was durable and played both tackle positions in college as needed. With Ryan Harris' status in doubt we need a plan at RT and Love could certainly fit the bill. At the very least, he gives us excellent depth at the tackle positions and frees up Beadles to be the swingman inside. Depth is nothing to sneeze at for the OL. If we can get and KEEP a running game going we protect our weak defense.

ROUND 6

Lee Smith, TE Marshall, 6'6'' 267. A big man with some speed (4.9 40 listed by NFL Draft Countdown), Smith looks like a very good all around tight end in the making. While his size would lead many to believe he's primarily a blocker, they'd be wrong. He caught 61 balls in his final two seasons for a ten yard average. He has the potential to be exactly the sort of player you need as a TE, one that can play all three downs by contributing as a blocker and receiver. The kind of player that doesn't give away intentions by being in the game. That big body will give Tebow a potentially tremendous safety valve and yet another way to keep the chains moving and the defense off the field. I really don't want another Scheffler at this point of our rebuilding, I want a younger and better Daniel Graham.

ROUND 7

Anthony Gray, DT Southern Miss, 6' 317lbs. A fireplug of a player that demonstrated the ability to hold vs the run in college. While he didn't get to the QB very often, he did show the ability to push the pocket from the middle. He has a ton of experience at the college level and could work his way into the DT rotation early in his career. He has the potential to contribute to the defense this year, though he's unlikely to be a savior. Besides, there really is no way Denver can go through this draft without taking a DT (personally I think Dareus would look great as a Bronco).

Conclusion: This could be the kind of draft every pundit gives an immediate F but grades an A three years from now. What this draft does, in my opinion, is solidify the offense in the short term with the potential to have some key pieces grow together with each other and Tim Tebow. It should improve our ability to run the ball right now as well as improve our ability to convert on third down. Both of those things make our defense better by keeping their sorry butts on the bench for longer periods of time. It also protects our defense by shortening games and holding scores down. Who cares how opponents' PPG is held down as long as its held down? Further, drafting this way now would theoretically "finish" the offense for the near term and allow complete focus on the defense in FA after the draft (I expect the CBA to get done in time to at least do a quick FA before the season) and in general player acquisition over the next couple of seasons. I also expect that this approach would give us at least as much opportunity to improve from 4-12 to 8-8 as would throwing a bunch of defensive rooks to the wolves.

As I said, if I were in the front office I likely wouldn't go at it this way. Further, Elway's comments on the current state of the Broncos indicates that the real front office won't either. But putting this out there does give us a chance to talk about the team from some different angles. After all, are there any new angles from which to argue about Fairly vs Peterson vs Bowers vs Dareus? I think we've covered that.

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Why don’t we do the same thing on defense and get an “A” three years from now also?

by swg777 on Feb 13, 2011 3:27 PM MST reply actions  

That would be fine as well.

I went offense here in large part to show that we still have holes that need filling there to be a threat to make and advance in the playoffs. In order for any draft to get an A three years from now we’d need to be winning. If we are able to contend for the division and be at least an underdog threat to make some noise in the playoffs as a division winner or wildcard team, I don’t care how we get there. The holes we have on offense will have to be plugged at some point. Earlier might (or might not) also help Tebow in the long term.

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I only have 1 problem with this scenario

Danny Watkins is going to be 27 before his 1st NFL game.

I’m not touching him before the 3rd at the absolute earliest.

27 year old rookies aren’t worth 2nd round picks IMO.

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by Nick Cast on Feb 13, 2011 3:40 PM MST reply actions  

I agree Nick....

especially when we are at least a couple of years away from contention.

by swg777 on Feb 13, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Agree that that is a red flag.

There are a few guards in that area that could help the team. We still need to improve on the interior OL to be long term contenders. I think in my last mock I went with Rodney Hutson from Florida State. I do know that plugging in Hochstein when someone goes down hasn’t done much for us the last couple of seasons.

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep, I hate it.

This one should have been titled “The Worst Possible Mock”.

by Digger24 on Feb 13, 2011 3:46 PM MST reply actions  

I have faith

Fox will not pull a McD and refrain from addressing the defense. It was so simple last time around, draft defense.

by Digger24 on Feb 13, 2011 4:19 PM MST up reply actions  

It sure would have been nice to have more D in McD's drafts.

At the same time, the situation is different now. We don’t have the personnel on offense that we had when McD came in. We have either a journeyman at QB or an inexperienced youngster with potential. We are likely to lose what was considered a set piece two years ago at RT in Ryan Harris. Our running back depth is terrible. Or interior offensive line is serviceable at best and there is no depth. The WR core is good but durability is a concern and depth is unproven.

Even if it is true that all McD needed to do was draft D and leave the offense alone two years ago, its ridiculous to think that’s the case with the current Denver Broncos. Not only did McD focus on offense in his drafts, but he didn’t come up with a single player who doesn’t have serious question marks going forward. We still need offensive talent as well. Do I actually think we should go get it all in this draft? Nope. Do I want to have a discussion about how to go about fixing our offensive as well as defensive holes? Yup.

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm not worked up :)

Just interested in why you’re saying what you’re saying. I like to think about the team from different angles so I’d like your input beyond a sentence. No, really :)

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 9:14 PM MST up reply actions  

OK

The offensive is not without needs, you’re right. To say it has less talent than when McD took over, I disagree, somewhat. However, same concept applied, defense stunk. I do agree though if the offense can move the chains the defensive stats improve dramatically and we don’t look so bad on paper. Problem is< I’m not going by stats or where we ranked on defense. I’m going by what I saw. We can’t stop the run, can’t get a sack(we can get pressure) or turnovers and most often lose in time of posession. McD did try. He got FAs for the D. He fixed what he percieved to be wrong, which I agree was mostly the safeties. Problem is the fixes weren’t good enough. Dawkins got old and hurt and he never addressed the NT position other than Fields and JWilliams. I want D through the draft and I think Elway does too. This time around I think you better get your O in FA.

by Digger24 on Feb 14, 2011 6:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree with you.

We definitely need defense out of this draft, though I wouldn’t be opposed to a mix of offense and defense. All the needs we have must be met one way or another if we’re gonna win a Superbowl.

I would be both surprised and probably upset if we took Greene with the #2 pick. That pick should be one of Fairley, Dareus or Bowers in my opinion. After that I’m fine with best player available that fits a need whether it is offense or defense though I’d like to see us take a top 4-3 LB prospect if possible. We really need a safety as well, but I feel like safety is pretty weak in this draft.

Thanks for throwing out what you think.

by jaffe28 on Feb 14, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

Agreed. After #2, offense is fair game. RT for sure.

by Digger24 on Feb 14, 2011 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

1 defensive player? and in the 7th no less?

Its not just one fans would hate, but Xanders himself said D will be heavily drafted. I like creative think but in a realisitc way, and I dont see this as realistic

With the #2 pick in the 2011 draft, Denver will take Nick Fairley if the Panthers pass on him. If Carolina does take him, the pick will more likely then not be Patrick Peterson. I can assure most mockers that DaQaun Bowers will not be the pick. No offense to him but it would not be smart for the Broncos to draft him. DT/CB need to be addressed way before DE.

by DBroncs1414 on Feb 13, 2011 4:15 PM MST reply actions  

Agree it's not realistic as a draft.

And I acknowledged that the FO almost certainly won’t go at it this way. If they did they’d have to put up with a hell of a lot of heat. It might be realistic though to see a couple of these positions come about in various spots. And it is absolutely realistic to talk about these positions as areas of need.

I also believe that we need to draft more defensive talent than I put in this one. I put offensive players in because everyone is so focused on our horrid defense that there is not much discussion of offensive needs. There are still things to address on offense if we want to be a playoff team with a chance to make noise. Also, the players I picked are ones whose college play and scouting reports suggest the skill sets I think we would need to be a good team. If you don’t like Leshoure in the second, but you like what he might bring to the team then think about how else we might go about getting a player like that and who that player might be.

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 4:40 PM MST up reply actions  

interesting

and I like the contrarian viewpoint. I agree that we need one more guard on the Oline. I’m not sure on drafting a tackle too since I don’t know what we’re doing with Harris. I also agree that we need a run-downhill pounder. People think that the right complement for Moreno is a Bettis type, I don’t really agree, I think we need a fast, powerful thoroughbred type of guy that doesn’t make unnecessary cuts.

But, I do honestly think that players like tight end and right tackle are better fits for free agency. We need people to contribute relatively immediately, and rookies would take longer. This would free up draft picks for defense, who can contribute earlier out of playing more instinctively.

by tunesmith on Feb 13, 2011 4:19 PM MST reply actions  

Agree that FA might be the best way to go on some of these positions.

I really like the idea of trying to snag Kevin Boss in FA as an all purpose TE. We almost certainly have to address either OG or OT in free agency rather than the draft. WR depth would probably best come from FA as well.

On the flip side, I really am not enamored of the RBs available in FA. DeAngelo is definitely the best of the bunch but I’m not sure he’s what we need. Let me put it this way, I sure wish Stewart were the Carolina free agent.

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

@gaffe28..some of the posters are polite, I must be direct

If EFX even think this way then they have not looked at the team NEEDS. Now if we had a 3rd and 4th round choice I could see offense taking a high choice. BUT NO
I mentioned NEED and you rationalied that Fox and Green can take the current players and climb into the high 20’s in defense. Maybe with our schedule but likely NOT.
Offensive line is above average. Defensive line is below average. Nuff said.
Green should NOT be an option. He currenly is no better than Decker or Willis or even Riley. A year of NFL experience is priceless.
No gaff..your idea is more McD’ish

by DLMyers on Feb 13, 2011 4:49 PM MST reply actions  

Hey at least that got some discussion going :)

I don’t think we should take Greene either. He’s at least at 5th on the list of players we could take at that spot behind the usual suspects of Dareus, Fairley, Bowers, and Peterson. At the same time, throwing him out as a pick does illustrate that maybe our WR corps is not as good as it could be. Maybe we ought to find a guy in FA (if there is FA) to bolster the group.

As far as needs, we do have needs at TE, OG, OT, and RB. Are they as big as our needs at DT and LB? Nope. Will they need to be addressed somehow in order for us to be a contender? Yup.

BTW, nice play on words with my handle. Gaffe= a blunder or faux pas. Very clever of you :).

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

You did read the title right?

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Feb 13, 2011 5:15 PM MST up reply actions  

He currently is no better than Decker or Willis or even Riley

I strongly disagree.

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by Nick Cast on Feb 13, 2011 5:34 PM MST up reply actions  

me too!

I get not wanting to draft him b/c it’s not a huge need, but cat can flat out play

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by bcfunk on Feb 13, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions  

This is a McD draftboard...and he lost his job ?

Let’s go with a “Foxy” Defense…that’s a breath of fresh air this team, city, state and fanbase will LOVE!

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by Hogblog on Feb 13, 2011 5:23 PM MST reply actions  

Is this Josh McDaniels?

I hate it. Denver went Defense last year with it’s 1st 5 picks.

Danny Watkins is a very good player but some mocks have him going 1st Round.

Overall probably the mock I hate the most ever.

by Broncosfansd on Feb 13, 2011 5:34 PM MST reply actions  

True,

but McD didn’t do a great job of going offense which means we still have needs there!

Agree with you that we need to take defense in this draft, especially with the first pick. Do want to shake up the thought process and look at the long term rise to a championship though, and for that we still have offensive pieces to put in place.

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 9:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I knew you would hate it :)

Don’t worry, I don’t actually want to do this. I do want to talk about the offenses needs once in awhile as well though :)

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 9:02 PM MST up reply actions  

I would be ok with this (eventually) IF

We change the 2nd round picks to defense.

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." - John Elway

by Pmoreno95 on Feb 13, 2011 6:10 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

What if

we draft Fairley, Bowers or Dareus and leave the rest the same? Do you think it could be part of a realistic plan to be a playoff contender by year three of the Fox era?

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

hmmm thats tough

Maybe but if that were to happen we would have to draft defense in the next 2 drafts. I’m talking every pick but yeah I think it could turn into a playoff contender in year 3.

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." - John Elway

by Pmoreno95 on Feb 14, 2011 11:48 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree.

Also agree we’re gonna have to do some serious work on defense in drafts and FA over the next couple offseasons or we’ll go nowhere.

The biggest worry I’d have about waiting a year on defense would be waiting a year to start gelling young players. Still if you can get the offense “done” and gelled with an young up and coming defense in the 3rd year of Foxy’s regime you could compete.

Thanks for helping me think through this stuff :)

by jaffe28 on Feb 14, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah that is my fear as well.

No problem bro.

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by Pmoreno95 on Feb 14, 2011 7:13 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Actually i don't hate it at all. Our offense will look very promising with all these guys

Fox will make this defense better no doubt. With Doom coming back and Ayers moving to his more natural position i have high hopes for this D-Line as is. In addition Thomas is moving back to the 3 tech which is his more natural position as well and he was mocked at one point as a 1st rounder in that position. Bannan and Vick are solid. I have questions about our pass rush (would love Von miller or Bowers) but other than that i like this draft. AJ Green is a beast but switching that pick or the 2nd rounder for a DL would make me happy.

by ShyandObese on Feb 13, 2011 6:55 PM MST reply actions  

Agree.

Would rather have Bowers, Dareus or Fairley than Greene. Course, if we can find another way over the next couple years to improve the D and if we had Greene, I’m betting Greene would look pretty good in whatever offense we run in his third year as we get ready to play our first home playoff game :)

by jaffe28 on Feb 13, 2011 9:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Absolutly thats why I think he should still be on our board.

He is one of maybe 5 elite talents coming out (Bowers, Fairley, Peterson, Miller, Dareus)
All those guys should be considered.

by ShyandObese on Feb 13, 2011 11:27 PM MST up reply actions  

offense the first couple of rounds will not improve this team, it should be vice versa.

by kadenp on Feb 13, 2011 7:47 PM MST reply actions  

The core problem is that the team ends up with the 2010 defense with everyone a year older

Doom comes back, but after missing a full year he probably won’t be 100%, either.

After this draft, the Broncos may not lose games 59-14 and 43-13, but they would still lose them 35-20.

by ClarkFan on Feb 14, 2011 8:07 AM MST reply actions  

That's certainly a possibility.

We might still get blasted with this draft. I think that would depend on if we were able to consistently run a Foxy offense with these players added in. If we can run the ball effectively, pick up first downs, and run the clock on offense then PPG come down by virtue of limited possessions. Then we’re in games that are in the 20-17 range. We might well lose a number of those. At the same time, with a will like Tebow’s out there we might not.

Honestly, if the Broncos went with this draft I’d have serious questions about it too. But say we have a draft like this one:

1. Nick Fairley DT Auburn
2. Mikel Leshoure RB Ilinois
2. Greg Jones ILB Mich St
3. Demarcus Love OT Arkansas
6. Lee Smith TE Marshall
7. Tejay Johnson S TCU

So offense and defense are evenly split in the draft. I still get half the picks I put in the above draft. How do you think this one would go over with you, other fans, and most importantly as a way to improve the team?

by jaffe28 on Feb 14, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Well a year older

And with this draft, you could certainly kiss Champ goodbye. Because it would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Broncos are as stuck on stupid as they have been for the last quite a few years. So we’d have an old D-line, no LB depth, and a secondary that would either be collecting Social Security and/or possibly the worst in the league.

by yibberat on Feb 14, 2011 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

We'd look incompetant as a franchise

if we use 1st rd picks in consecutive years to draft a #1 WR, the two years right after we get rid of our own #1 WR who only cost us a 4th rd pick.

by nsink on Feb 14, 2011 2:46 PM MST reply actions  

Maybe.

Course, the current brain trust could also look like they are cleaning up McD’s mess. He’s the one that traded a top WR and drafted an injury prone receiver who is injured. AJ Greene could be interpreted as the new regime’s way of fixing that mess.

Would the franchise take heat for drafting Greene? Sure. Would anyone care about heat if he played well and contributed to wins? Nope.

by jaffe28 on Feb 14, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions  

That draft would never get a A

not now and not 3 years from now. Every draft requires that every draftee who makes the team kicks someone else off the roster. And unless this sort of offense-only draft results in kicking off untalented defense — and thus basically eliminating the entire defensive bench — then you are NOT actually upgrading the team with this.

The weakness on the Broncos is defense. NOT offense. The offense has both better marginal talent — and MUCH MUCH deeper bench.

The only offense position that really needs a draft pick this year is OT. Simply because it has no bench at all — and possibly not even a starting right tackle. Other than that, every single possible pick on offense is a complete waste and proof of organizational incompetence.

by yibberat on Feb 14, 2011 10:33 PM MST reply actions  

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